DHT blockers

[RoadKill]

I'm fuckin norwood 2-3 at 15 (almost 16, i wanna try some DHT blockers but I've heard things like finestaride will fuck up ur hormones or test or some shi if you take it before you've finished puberty. Anyone know anything i can take instead?

 

[sirmimbing]

They're fine. Yes if you're not finished with puberty they could have an effect. But many people are already past puberty at 16. If you're sure you're still growing, you could start with minoxidil only (non-hormonal) to try and stall for 6-12 months. But no matter what you'll have to use Finasteride/Dutasteride within a couple years unless you wanna go bald. I got on it at 17.

 

[RoadKill]

They're fine. Yes if you're not finished with puberty they could have an effect. But many people are already past puberty at 16. If you're sure you're still growing, you could start with minoxidil only (non-hormonal) to try and stall for 6-12 months. But no matter what you'll have to use Finasteride/Dutasteride within a couple years unless you wanna go bald. I got on it at 17.

what i was thinking aswell tbh. Is combining minoxidil with finas/dutas alright?

 

[Evgeniy291]

I'm fuckin norwood 2-3 at 15 (almost 16, i wanna try some DHT blockers but I've heard things like finestaride will fuck up ur hormones or test or some shi if you take it before you've finished puberty. Anyone know anything i can take instead?

Don't block it, suffer till 20 without hair instead of being 20 with hair but boneless

 

[RoadKill]

Don't block it, suffer till 20 without hair instead of being 20 with hair but boneless

i mean I'm slightly receding, plus if need be theres always hair transplants, take a trip to Harley street once i get the money

 

[Evgeniy291]

i mean I'm slightly receding, plus if need be theres always hair transplants, take a trip to Harley street once i get the money

Wear my haircut till ur 100% sure ur face stopped growing, mine still grows at 18

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Don't block it, suffer till 20 without hair instead of being 20 with hair but boneless

Where have you got the retarded idea that DHT grows bones JFL? I’m guessing TikTok because there is nothing to back that up.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Where have you got the retarded idea that DHT grows bones JFL? I’m guessing TikTok because there is nothing to back that up.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

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What a fucking retarded thing to do to just google it JFL and call it research.

Maybe i’ll go vegan now?

No study shows that DHT grows bones. Do some real research JFL.

Normal bone density in male pseudohermaphroditism due to 5alpha- reductase 2 deficiency - PubMed

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

5α-reductase-2 Deficiency’s Effect on Human Fertility - PMC

A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The two guys on the left have 0 DHT (literally) and they still have a normal bone structure and an identical height, bone density and skeletal mass to their healthy siblings, it have a higher binding affinity to the androgen receptor but it doesn't cause the same physiological response.
The pubertal growth spurt (for men) is also induced by testosterone and not DHT.

Also 5AR is not very active in bone tissues and DHT is mainly a paracrine hormone (i.e it acts where it's produced while testosterone acts on the whole body despite being produced in the testes).

Test, E2, hgh and igf1 are what cause bone growth, not fucking DHT.

 

[Evgeniy291]

What a fucking retarded thing to do to just google it JFL and call it research.

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Maybe i’ll go vegan now?

No study shows that DHT grows bones. Do some real research JFL.

Normal bone density in male pseudohermaphroditism due to 5alpha- reductase 2 deficiency - PubMed

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

"but it is not clear"

"Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density" NORMAL

5α-reductase-2 Deficiency’s Effect on Human Fertility - PMC

A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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The two guys on the left have 0 DHT (literally)

Yeah I can tell look at their boneless fucking faces

and they still have a normal bone structure

Look at their face they are fucking boneless

and an identical height, bone density and skeletal mass to their healthy siblings, it have a higher binding affinity to the androgen receptor but it doesn't cause the same physiological response.
The pubertal growth spurt (for men) is also induced by testosterone and not DHT.

Also 5AR is not very active in bone tissues and DHT is mainly a paracrine hormone (i.e it acts where it's produced while testosterone acts on the whole body despite being produced in the testes).

dnr I already replied

 

[Evgeniy291]

Omg look they have no dht muh normal bones

THEY ARE SUB4'S WITH NARROW CLAVICLES AND NO CRANIOFACIAL DEVELOPEMENT.
JAW NARROW AS SHIT, 404 ZYGOS, NO BROWRIDGE.

What a fucking retard

 

[chadisbeingmade]

"but it is not clear"

Holy fuck you’re a retard. That’s the point of the study you giga retard. Just outed yourself as a giga retard.

NORMAL

Yes what did you expect JFL?

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Omg look they have no dht muh normal bones

THEY ARE SUB4'S WITH NARROW CLAVICLES AND NO CRANIOFACIAL DEVELOPEMENT.
JAW NARROW AS SHIT, 404 ZYGOS, NO BROWRIDGE.

What a fucking retard

He literally has wider clavicles than the person with DHT you fucking moron JFL. and the middle is just fat.


2024 retards at it again.

 

[Evgeniy291]

That’s the point of the study you giga retard.

Yes what did you expect JFL?

He literally has wider clavicles than the person with DHT you fucking moron JFL. and the middle is just fat.

Dht doesn't affect bones I swar saar look this guy had zero dht he has above average clavicles and his face bones are good..
Why you laughing saar

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Dht doesn't affect bones I swar saar look this guy had zero dht he has above average clavicles and his face bones are good..
Why you laughing saar
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He gets clavicle mogged by the guy in the middle to oblivion who doesn’t have a molecule of DHT in his body. Just blame body fat for being boneless theory when one literally has abs and one is 25% body fat, you are very smart aren’t you fella. Both guys has just as much facial bone as him. Just JFL at your room temp iq.

"but it is not clear"

I’m still laughing at this tbh. Blud really read the first 3 words of a study that were “it’s not clear” and tried to make a point using it JFL. The aim of the study was to determine if it’s based on test or dht because it wasn’t clear. itConclusion was it wasn’t dht you moron.

I would stop coping with that mushroom on your head which looks like diabolical shit and get on a 5ARI to deal with your hair loss to actually have a hairline by 20, instead of having to regain ground JFL, and still get all the “bone growth” you think your gonna get. Just rape hairline for no reason at all theory.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

He gets clavicle mogged by the guy in the middle to oblivion who doesn’t have a molecule of DHT in his body. Just blame body fat for being boneless theory when one literally has abs and one is 25% body fat, you are very smart aren’t you fella. Both guys has just as much facial bone as him. Just JFL at your room temp iq.


I’m still laughing at this tbh. Blud really read the first 3 words of a study that were “it’s not clear” and tried to make a point using it JFL. The aim of the study was to determine if it’s based on test or dht because it wasn’t clear. Conclusion was it wasn’t dht you moron.

I will wait to be proved wrong, but I won’t. Probably won’t even reply after realising how wrong you are. Nothing backs up your claim, i checked. Retards .org.

 

[Evgeniy291]

He has good bones hes just fat sir

 

[superpsycho]

I'm fuckin norwood 2-3 at 15 (almost 16, i wanna try some DHT blockers but I've heard things like finestaride will fuck up ur hormones or test or some shi if you take it before you've finished puberty. Anyone know anything i can take instead?

watch the new rehab room video about finasteride

 

[baldmm]

First of all, don't start any DHT blocking as of yet, instead follow my hormone free hair restore routine.
You'll need liquid minoxidil at 5% and dermaneedle. You are going to use the liquid minoxidil orally by drinking 1 drop every morning and gonna do dermaneedle at the bald, thinner spots at 1.5mm every 3 weeks.

Here's my routine which I wrote for one of my friend:

So the way it works: when you are using topical minoxidil the extent of effect depends how much sulfotransferaseenzyme your scalp has. Minoxidil on it's own is useless sulfotransferase enzyme converts it to bioavailable compound. Some guys see great results on topical minoxidil some not so much, it all depends how much their scalp has of this enzyme. Now you can boost it to some extend with dermaneedleing but it's a pain in the ass and uncomfortable. Btw it's even inconvinient to apply topical minoxidil everyday because it's makes your hair greasy and bad looking. And enter oral minoxidil: when you ingest minoxidil orally it is processed by your liver which is full of sulfotransferase enzyme, so it all gets converted into bioavailable minoxidil. The caveat here is that orally it will work everywhere in your body, so it will make your hair grow like crazy and make your beard thicker and darker, eyebrow, eyelashes will grow as well and the bad thing is that your body hair will be growing too. For me the only part I saw increased body hair growth was the back part of my neck. However I can safely say that it's a very small price to pay compared to 5ar blockers like fin and dut and you can always do a laser hair removal.

The application method: You have a 60ml of 5% regular Minoxidil, in 1ml there is 50mg of minoxidil and you need to take 2.5mg which is 0.05 ml which is only 1 drop of liquid. I tried 5mg 2 drops but it made my face bloat a little bit and the effect was the same, so with 2.5mg I don't have any bloat and no side effects only neck body hair growth. I take it in the morning after I wake up it has alchohol taste so I just drink some water with it but you can take it anytiime during the day. I promise you if you try this and stick with it for 2-3 months you'll see unbelivable results, my beard looks amazing now and my hairline came down 1 cm and it's been only months for me so results will come until 1 year or so. It's the easiest, cheapest and most rewarding side effects/benefits hair loss treatment.

 

[hoping to improve]

so you want to become a woman?

 

[RoadKill]

watch the new rehab room video about finasteride

rehab is ropefuel icl

 

[RoadKill]

so you want to become a woman?

no i want to have hair balding in ur 20s isnt a good look

 

[hoping to improve]

no i want to have hair balding in ur 20s isnt a good look

do you wanna be bald and masculine or have a full head of hair and look like a little boy?

 

[RoadKill]

First of all, don't start any DHT blocking as of yet, instead follow my hormone free hair restore routine.
You'll need liquid minoxidil at 5% and dermaneedle. You are going to use the liquid minoxidil orally by drinking 1 drop every morning and gonna do dermaneedle at the bald, thinner spots at 1.5mm every 3 weeks.

Here's my routine which I wrote for one of my friend:

So the way it works: when you are using topical minoxidil the extent of effect depends how much sulfotransferaseenzyme your scalp has. Minoxidil on it's own is useless sulfotransferase enzyme converts it to bioavailable compound. Some guys see great results on topical minoxidil some not so much, it all depends how much their scalp has of this enzyme. Now you can boost it to some extend with dermaneedleing but it's a pain in the ass and uncomfortable. Btw it's even inconvinient to apply topical minoxidil everyday because it's makes your hair greasy and bad looking. And enter oral minoxidil: when you ingest minoxidil orally it is processed by your liver which is full of sulfotransferase enzyme, so it all gets converted into bioavailable minoxidil. The caveat here is that orally it will work everywhere in your body, so it will make your hair grow like crazy and make your beard thicker and darker, eyebrow, eyelashes will grow as well and the bad thing is that your body hair will be growing too. For me the only part I saw increased body hair growth was the back part of my neck. However I can safely say that it's a very small price to pay compared to 5ar blockers like fin and dut and you can always do a laser hair removal.

The application method: You have a 60ml of 5% regular Minoxidil, in 1ml there is 50mg of minoxidil and you need to take 2.5mg which is 0.05 ml which is only 1 drop of liquid. I tried 5mg 2 drops but it made my face bloat a little bit and the effect was the same, so with 2.5mg I don't have any bloat and no side effects only neck body hair growth. I take it in the morning after I wake up it has alchohol taste so I just drink some water with it but you can take it anytiime during the day. I promise you if you try this and stick with it for 2-3 months you'll see unbelivable results, my beard looks amazing now and my hairline came down 1 cm and it's been only months for me so results will come until 1 year or so. It's the easiest, cheapest and most rewarding side effects/benefits hair loss treatment.

thank you man, for the liquid minox u got any specific brands?

 

[RoadKill]

do you wanna be bald and masculine or have a full head of hair and look like a little boy?

probably the 2nd one honestly

 

[superpsycho]

rehab is ropefuel icl

informative though

 

[slaters]

What a fucking retarded thing to do to just google it JFL and call it research.

View attachment 3624771
Maybe i’ll go vegan now?

No study shows that DHT grows bones. Do some real research JFL.

Normal bone density in male pseudohermaphroditism due to 5alpha- reductase 2 deficiency - PubMed

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Patients with dihydrotestosterone deficiency present normal bone mineral density, suggesting that dihydrotestosterone is not the main androgen acting in bone.

5α-reductase-2 Deficiency’s Effect on Human Fertility - PMC

A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

View attachment 3624773

The two guys on the left have 0 DHT (literally) and they still have a normal bone structure and an identical height, bone density and skeletal mass to their healthy siblings, it have a higher binding affinity to the androgen receptor but it doesn't cause the same physiological response.
The pubertal growth spurt (for men) is also induced by testosterone and not DHT.

Also 5AR is not very active in bone tissues and DHT is mainly a paracrine hormone (i.e it acts where it's produced while testosterone acts on the whole body despite being produced in the testes).

Test, E2, hgh and igf1 are what cause bone growth, not fucking DHT.

Too lazy to read the study
Is there anything wrong with these people with literally 0 dht

 

[GreekGenes]

Both Finasteride and Dutasteride (5a-reductase-inhibitors) are generally well-tolerated drugs.

However, at 15 you're very young indeed. Discuss this with your dermatologist in depth and weigh the pro and con.

Personally i also started balding at 16 but managed to buy some time with minoxidil. I kept balding even ON minoxidil though, just at a slower rate.

Only when i added Finasteride in my twenties did i start regaining ground again.

 

[sirmimbing]

what i was thinking aswell tbh. Is combining minoxidil with finas/dutas alright?

Yeah that's fine. Minoxidil is a growth stimulant which means it doesn't actually stop hair loss, but it could potentially buy you some time until you're old enough to use a DHT blocker that does stop hair loss. You could use them right now but if you think you might not be fully grown then that could be a risk. So maybe use 5% topical minox morning and night for 6-12 months and then get on fin/dut.