Do I need trimax or would genio+rhino+lip lift suffice?

[clungemaxer]

ik the posture is bad ignore that

faceiq said I need a fuckton of surgery (trimax, supras,infras - I agree, canthoplasty, fat grafting eyes, rhino dorsal hump fix, otoplasty, lip lift, lip commissuroplasty widening, lip filler)

what do you think? I think my biggest failos and recessed chin like lacking dimo in my lower third.
and my low fwhr it's 1.71 and my midface ratio is 0.88.

if I got genio and rhino lift nose tip, lip lift I could improve those ratios and add dimorphism.

I just think side profile is mostly cope. saw some video by facemetrics saying bimax is cope for aesthetics and @lurking truecel thread about it
so do I really need bimax?

what do you think?

also is my narrow mouth that bad? might try some mouth widening device, lip commissuroplasty seems super risky.

I'm fully inkwell

 

[clungemaxer]

@AustrianMogger

 

[AustrianMogger]

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ik the posture is bad ignore that

faceiq said I need a fuckton of surgery (trimax, supras,infras - I agree, canthoplasty, fat grafting eyes, rhino dorsal hump fix, otoplasty, lip lift, lip commissuroplasty widening, lip filler)

what do you think? I think my biggest failos and recessed chin like lacking dimo in my lower third.
and my low fwhr it's 1.71 and my midface ratio is 0.88.

if I got genio and rhino lift nose tip, lip lift I could improve those ratios and add dimorphism.

I just think side profile is mostly cope. saw some video by facemetrics saying bimax is cope for aesthetics and @lurking truecel thread about it
so do I really need bimax?

what do you think?

also is my narrow mouth that bad? might try some mouth widening device, lip commissuroplasty seems super risky.

I'm fully inkwell

Yes you have a very goood plan.
Dont forget about LL if you arent 190cm
Good plan

 

[clungemaxer]

Yes you have a very goood plan.
Dont forget about LL if you arent 190cm
Good plan

you mean all the things he said or this

if I got genio and rhino lift nose tip, lip lift I could improve those ratios and add dimorphism.

and then do eye area stuff if more is needed

im 183cm dont care for more height

 

[zemult]

Not a bimax candidate. Probably not genio either, although hard to tell for sure from a head tilted side profile. Rhino & otoplasty 100%. Eye fat grafting can help. Lip lift has low ROI.

Already normie looking. Unless you're manlet I don't think you being inkwell is because of your face. You don't have much of a ceiling with surgery. Your long midface is a falio you will have to accept there's nothing that can address it either

FaceIQ is retarded. Canthoplasty is a joke in your case. Commissuroplasty is a meme surgery, your mouth width is a hard falio you also will have to accept.

 

[clungemaxer]

Not a bimax candidate.

agree it wouldnt do much

Unless you're manlet

no

I don't think you being inkwell is because of your face.

yeh it isn't im very aspie and there's no way around it other than being better looking or geomaxing

Probably not genio either,

I mean my chin is recessed relative to frankfurt plane
and lacks angularity from the front.

I may be jutting a bit in the 3/4 pics, not in side one though.
surely adding more width/height and projection would help and squaring

 

[zemult]

I may be jutting a bit in the 3/4 pics, not in side one though.
surely adding more width/height and projection would help and squaring

You don't want more chin height. More chin width can help, but again this is refinement more than anything - low ROI.

The chin projection in the side profile shown looks fine, but again this is far above frankfurt plane so it's frauded anyways.

Take a side profile like this:

 

[zemult]

Eh tbh I still doubt you need a genio it's not that off from frankfurt I guess.

Circled where the line should ideally be, like where your infraorbital rim would sit

 

[clungemaxer]

Eh tbh I still doubt you need a genio it's not that off from frankfurt I guess.

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Circled where the line should ideally be, like where your infraorbital rim would sit

I know it's not needed per say, not badly recessed or whatever if you say so but add angularity to it may be the few only looksmaxes that can make a difference. obviously other stuff like the under eyes but fixing that doesnt make you good looking, adding angularity to the chin is the one of the few surgeries that makes a legit difference imo


i know the morph looks silly here's what I mean
and wouldnt lip lift help the midface ratio, the nose tip is a bit droopy too so if I upturn that a bit then it allows for more room to shorten philtrum
what do you say?

 

[clungemaxer]

your mouth width is a hard falio

i've seen posts with proof of DIY mouth widening devices working
so i'll give that a try at least

 

[zemult]

I know it's not needed per say, not badly recessed or whatever if you say so but add angularity to it may be the few only looksmaxes that can make a difference. obviously other stuff like the under eyes but fixing that doesnt make you good looking, adding angularity to the chin is the one of the few surgeries that makes a legit difference imo

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i know the morph looks silly here's what I mean
and wouldnt lip lift help the midface ratio, the nose tip is a bit droopy too so if I upturn that a bit then it allows for more room to shorten philtrum
what do you say?

Starts to look crimson. Lip lift could "technically" help, I guess it's slightly thin, but it'd be small refinement more than anything because your upper lip isn't really a problem.

It will also do nothing about your MFR, like wow you'd go from 0.88 to 0.9 or something. Low ROI

 

[zemult]

i've seen posts with proof of DIY mouth widening devices working
so i'll give that a try at least

It's all cope and you'll just create folds in your face if anything

 

[Jgns]

ur lip width is honestly not bad at all what, maybe u could get a corner lip lift or vermillion advancement for the sides maybe. That is not at all an incel lip width dude.

 

[Prøphet]

Retake side profile pic with your neck flat against a wall

 

[zemult]

ur lip width is honestly not bad at all what, maybe u could get a corner lip lift or vermillion advancement for the sides maybe. That is not at all an incel lip width dude.

Actually yeah I didn't even bother to check the actual mouth width I just took what the dude said blindly.

Nigga's mouth width is in the ideal range lol

 

[clungemaxer]

Starts to look crimson. Lip lift could "technically" help, I guess it's slightly thin, but it'd be small refinement more than anything because your upper lip isn't really a problem.

It will also do nothing about your MFR, like wow you'd go from 0.88 to 0.9 or something. Low ROI

brutal
so there's no hope of anything really

 

[Jgns]

Actually yeah I didn't even bother to check the actual mouth width I just took what the dude said blindly.

Nigga's mouth width is in the ideal range lol

straightup jfl I was dying when I saw the nigga complaining about that. This dude just might need a bit of filler for angularity and fat grafting or makeup for his undereyes and an anti aging hard skincare stack and he'll slay really well. His midface isnt even that bad. Dudes obv just a huge mentalcel

 

[Jgns]

straightup jfl I was dying when I saw the nigga complaining about that. This dude just might need a bit of filler for angularity and fat grafting or makeup for his undereyes and an anti aging hard skincare stack and he'll slay really well. His midface isnt even that bad. Dudes obv just a huge mentalcel

and minoxidill for those eyebrows wtf are those eyebrows dude comeon

 

[clungemaxer]

straightup jfl I was dying when I saw the nigga complaining about that. This dude just might need a bit of filler for angularity and fat grafting or makeup for his undereyes and an anti aging hard skincare stack and he'll slay really well. His midface isnt even that bad. Dudes obv just a huge mentalcel

well i'm just confused
ive occasionally had attraction signs/interest IRL but could never do anything in the UK where NT is law.

in pics I always looked crap and needed to use tripod+proper dslr for this
used dating apps, only sub5s fat women liked me that's it.

so I got faceiq to rate me he gave me a 5.5 said I need all of this that my mouth is too narrow. some other org user I pmd aged ago (del my acc) said the same thing, and now this guy saying I cant do anything to fix my flaws. bruh what do I do

 

[clungemaxer]

bit of filler for angularity

where on chin or gonions?
midface/zygo migrates dont want to do that

 

[zemult]

well i'm just confused
ive occasionally had attraction signs/interest IRL but could never do anything in the UK where NT is law.

in pics I always looked crap and needed to use tripod+proper dslr for this
used dating apps, only sub5s fat women liked me that's it.

so I got faceiq to rate me he gave me a 5.5 said I need all of this that my mouth is too narrow. some other org user I pmd aged ago (del my acc) said the same thing, and now this guy saying I cant do anything to fix my flaws. bruh what do I do

Your mouth width to nose ratio is 1.47 in this photo. Not a flaw really. FaceIQ is Low IQ.

 

[Jgns]

well i'm just confused
ive occasionally had attraction signs/interest IRL but could never do anything in the UK where NT is law.

in pics I always looked crap and needed to use tripod+proper dslr for this
used dating apps, only sub5s fat women liked me that's it.

so I got faceiq to rate me he gave me a 5.5 said I need all of this that my mouth is too narrow. some other org user I pmd aged ago (del my acc) said the same thing, and now this guy saying I cant do anything to fix my flaws. bruh what do I do

I mean ur mouth isnt too narrow, its not really wide but it isnt narrow. Faceiq is a dumfuck I wouldnt take what he has to say in account too heavily tbh. Like mayybee u could get a corner lip lift to lift the side vermillions to make ur lips appear wider (thats what im doing) but theyre a good width alr, and if those slanted down vermillion gets pulled up ull see that its a good width. Id just recommend filler for angularity but ur an above average guy fs.

 

[Jgns]

where on chin or gonions?
midface/zygo migrates dont want to do that

im not the most educated on filler but from wht ive heard thats not the worst thing. I hope other more educated guys could come in here and help u with that but it would def mog

 

[clungemaxer]

im not the most educated on filler but from wht ive heard thats not the worst thing. I hope other more educated guys could come in here and help u with that but it would def mog

ok cheers

 

[nathan_Bs123]

gl

 

[koops]

im not the most educated on filler but from wht ive heard thats not the worst thing. I hope other more educated guys could come in here and help u with that but it would def mog

I think the problem with filler is that we don't really have many honest results of it, clinics have incentive to hype it up (they change the lighting and camera in basically every before and after if you notice) and male patients rarely post their results or talk about how their results are after x time. This is lowkey why I suggest fillers to a lot of 100% average looking guys on here, it's my master plan to get them to post their before and afters (they never get it anyways)

 

[Jgns]

I think the problem with filler is that we don't really have many honest results of it, clinics have incentive to hype it up (they change the lighting and camera in basically every before and after if you notice) and male patients rarely post their results or talk about how their results are after x time. This is lowkey why I suggest fillers to a lot of 100% average looking guys on here, it's my master plan to get them to post their before and afters (they never get it anyways)

son. I mean arent they much more studied than implants. There should be laws standardizing the before and after images of aesthetic clinics. Shits honestly gotten ridiculous.