Do I need trimax or would genio+rhino+lip lift suffice?

[Animepilled]

Are we looking at the same picture? even in my example his chin is clearly below the lower lipp. Ideally it should be on par.
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the line is drawn across the edges of the lips. It would cut through his chin in your morph. His lips-chin line is perfect in his og

 

[AustrianMogger]

Nigga's response to the E-Plane is it "seems very stupid"

Are you trolling or do you actually not know what it is?

It's a pretty important measurement for measuring orthodontic development, backed by many studies. Been used for a very long time

What is hernan dragos E-Plane then?

I go of by chin in relation to the lipps and especially the lower lipp.
You tell me that a recessed chin is ideal i think that is bullshit.

I care what i can see and to me this looks better.
Ofc the Poster could provide a better pic but my point still stands.

 

[Animepilled]

What is hernan dragos E-Plane then?

I go of by chin in relation to the lipps and especially the lower lipp.
You tell me that a recessed chin is ideal i think that is bullshit.

I care what i can see and to me this looks better.
Ofc the Poster could provide a better pic but my point still stands.

nigga you cant measure a chin to lip relation by straight vertical line when the jaws and the soft tissue are positioned at an angle. You measure it upper to lower lip to chin

 

[AustrianMogger]

the line is drawn across the edges of the lips. It would cut through his chin in your morph. His lips-chin line is perfect in his og

Ah yes.
Beeing recessed is beeing ideal
WOW if only i thought of that

Look at all these subhumans. Clearly should have gotten chin reduction. These LTNs cant compete with recessed chads.

 

[zemult]

What is hernan dragos E-Plane then?

I go of by chin in relation to the lipps and especially the lower lipp.
You tell me that a recessed chin is ideal i think that is bullshit.

I care what i can see and to me this looks better.
Ofc the Poster could provide a better pic but my point still stands.

Not too far off from OP actually..

Whilst your morph on the other hand is at least 2-3mm off.

 

[Animepilled]

Ah yes.
Beeing recessed is beeing ideal
WOW if only i thought of that
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Look at all these subhumans. Clearly should have gotten chin reduction. These LTNs cant compete with recessed chads.
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Seems you are a little slow. All these pictures have a good lip-chin assessment unlike your morph. To achieve this the op needs a ccw bimax not a genio overprojection like you morphed.

 

[zemult]

Jfl

 

[AustrianMogger]

Seems you are a little slow. All these pictures have a good lip-chin assessment unlike your morph. To achieve this the op needs a ccw bimax not a genio overprojection like you morphed.

Is this over the E-Line too?

Confused by all of this

 

[Animepilled]

Is this over the E-Line too?
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Confused by all of this

the first one yes. the second one no

 

[AustrianMogger]

the first one yes. the second one no

where is the difference

 

[Animepilled]

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where is the difference

Dragos chin is overprojected

 

[zemult]

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where is the difference

Drago is closer to the ideal in the first picture, second one is like 1-2mm off from drago

 

[AustrianMogger]

Drago is closer to the ideal in the first picture, second one is like 1-2mm off from drago

So just do lipp lift and fat grafts / filler to solve this?

 

[Animepilled]

Drago is closer to the ideal in the first picture, second one is like 1-2mm off from drago

quite far from the ideal rly

 

[zemult]

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quite far from the ideal rly

He's closer than the other guy though I meant but yeah

So just do lipp lift and fat grafts / filler to solve this?

Yours looks fine

 

[AustrianMogger]

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quite far from the ideal rly

Looks very ideal to me (perfect side)
he is old in the picture though

 

[Animepilled]

Looks very ideal to me (perfect side)
he is old in the picture though

i mean of course he is a mogger and looks great overall its just that he has flaws that people tend to overlook cuz of the halo effect

 

[Animepilled]

Looks very ideal to me (perfect side)
he is old in the picture though

this is why its better for a not so knowledgeable person to base their view of whats attractive off animated characters which tend to look perfect in all aspects and not on real people of which even the most attractive ones have many flaws and imperfections

 

[AustrianMogger]

i mean of course he is a mogger and looks great overall its just that he has flaws that people tend to overlook cuz of the halo effect

Shouldnt we base what is ideal on actual results (chads and giga chads)
Idk where this ratio comes from but he would look worse with a smaller chin.

 

[AustrianMogger]

this is why its better for a not so knowledgeable person to base their view of whats attractive off animated characters which tend to look perfect in all aspects and not on real people of which even the most attractive ones have many flaws and imperfections

 

[Animepilled]

Shouldnt we base what is ideal on actual results (chads and giga chads)
Idk where this ratio comes from but he would look worse with a smaller chin.
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yes you can base it off this ai generated chad not a real person.
He would look better with a less projected chin and more ccw rotated jaws

 

[Animepilled]

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yes this is a good harmony. Even tho not a realism based animation

 

[AustrianMogger]

yes you can base it off this ai generated chad not a real person.
He would look better with a less projected chin and more ccw rotated jaws

To me a well proected chin is a good trait.

 

[Animepilled]

To me a well proected chin is a good trait.

a good projected chin is the one thats harmonious with lips. Like this from aot you sent. its not overprojected

 

[Simikz]

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ik the posture is bad ignore that

faceiq said I need a fuckton of surgery (trimax, supras,infras - I agree, canthoplasty, fat grafting eyes, rhino dorsal hump fix, otoplasty, lip lift, lip commissuroplasty widening, lip filler)

what do you think? I think my biggest failos and recessed chin like lacking dimo in my lower third.
and my low fwhr it's 1.71 and my midface ratio is 0.88.

if I got genio and rhino lift nose tip, lip lift I could improve those ratios and add dimorphism.

I just think side profile is mostly cope. saw some video by facemetrics saying bimax is cope for aesthetics and @lurking truecel thread about it
so do I really need bimax?

what do you think?

also is my narrow mouth that bad? might try some mouth widening device, lip commissuroplasty seems super risky.

I'm fully inkwell

Hard to ignore that posture mate