Does MSE help with the anterior projection of the cheekbones?

[fruitgunpop]

My cheekbones have good lateral projection but kinda non ideal anteriorly.
I have bimax protrusion in the first place so I'd most likely have to widen my palate or resort to extractions.
Will MSE improve the anterior projection of the cheekbones?

 

[Mr.Proper]

@fruitgunpop Very slightly, if any. What's your age? Younger people achieved some results for forward growth (should also affect zygos a bit) by using face masks with MSE but the hope is low for adult patients over, say, age of 21. See also this message about MSE: https://looksmax.org/threads/if-i-have-mse-how-will-i-fix-occlusion-yakhis.536831/post-8834743

 

[fruitgunpop]

@fruitgunpop Very slightly, if any. What's your age? Younger people achieved some results for forward growth (should also affect zygos a bit) by using face masks with MSE but the hope is low for adult patients over, say, age of 21. See also this message about MSE: https://looksmax.org/threads/if-i-have-mse-how-will-i-fix-occlusion-yakhis.536831/post-8834743

I just turned 20 recently
Is there anything else I can do to make it more anteriorly projected other than implants and MSE?

 

[fruitgunpop]

@fruitgunpop Very slightly, if any. What's your age? Younger people achieved some results for forward growth (should also affect zygos a bit) by using face masks with MSE but the hope is low for adult patients over, say, age of 21. See also this message about MSE: https://looksmax.org/threads/if-i-have-mse-how-will-i-fix-occlusion-yakhis.536831/post-8834743

What about SARPE btw

 

[Mr.Proper]

What about SARPE btw

SARPE yields mediocre results aesthetically.
High cut LeFort I may increase projection somewhat, but it's not as common. Well-designed implants would be a good solution, but expensive.

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Mse doesn’t do shit to cheekbones it just makes palate wider.

 

[fruitgunpop]

@Birdcell @NegativeNorwood @Preston Sorry for the tag but could u lads pls help me?
Aside from implants and lefort is there anyway I can do to make my zygos more anteriorly projected?
I have good lateral projection but non ideal anterior projection.

 

[Birdcell]

@Birdcell @NegativeNorwood @Preston Sorry for the tag but could u lads pls help me?
Aside from implants and lefort is there anyway I can do to make my zygos more anteriorly projected?
I have good lateral projection but non ideal anterior projection.

For anterior projection , there's a modified osteotomy of the zso (Zygomatic sandwich osteotomy) that moves it sideways with little bit anterior protection , however it's a very obscure surgery and as a rule you cannot move the zygomatic bone forward only with a implant or whole lefort 3 (I think)

 

[Birdcell]

OP , I have the same issue tbh , I have very wide cheekbones but little bit anterior projection

 

[NegativeNorwood]

@Birdcell @NegativeNorwood @Preston Sorry for the tag but could u lads pls help me?
Aside from implants and lefort is there anyway I can do to make my zygos more anteriorly projected?
I have good lateral projection but non ideal anterior projection.

I think it doesn't help much but could be wrong.
I'm in a similar situation myself (30 yo, narrow palate, cheekbones very wide but lacking anterior projection) and been told several times that custom implants are the way to go for more cheekbone anterior projection.

Re widening palate, I think this thread could be useful to you, specially Silver responses:

12 tooth smile is an unmoggable trait. Swallow the smilepill.

Meanwhile the guy who your crush rubs herself to at night (I count 6) 8, and would look even better with a wider palate and less visible buccal corridors, like everyone else.

looksmax.org

 

[fruitgunpop]

OP , I have the same issue tbh , I have very wide cheekbones but little bit anterior projection

That's why I tagged u
Check this out
Cheekbone implants + midface augmentation
Looks kinda good?

 

[fruitgunpop]

For anterior projection , there's a modified osteotomy of the zso (Zygomatic sandwich osteotomy) that moves it sideways with little bit anterior protection , however it's a very obscure surgery and as a rule you cannot move the zygomatic bone forward only with a implant or whole lefort 3 (I think)

 

[Birdcell]

First get your midface advancement and then the implant , but shit will be insanely expensive , around 20k

That's why I tagged u
Check this out
Cheekbone implants + midface augmentation
Looks kinda good?

 

[fruitgunpop]

First get your midface advancement and then the implant , but shit will be insanely expensive , around 20k

I may not need midface implants actually.
My bimax protrusion makes it look as if my midface is recessed but thats not the case. The incisors top and bottom is overly flaring outwards that's the reason why.
But I'll still measure my foward growth in CBCT scans. Maybe its a bit recessed.
I'm gonna get jaw surgery anyways to fix condylar hyperplasia (just speculation) Imma visit my surgeon next week.
Maybe I could get bimax simultaneously with condylectomy.

Here's my maxilla

 

[Birdcell]

I may not need midface implants actually.
My bimax protrusion makes it look as if my midface is recessed but thats not the case. The incisors top and bottom is overly flaring outwards that's the reason why.
But I'll still measure my foward growth in CBCT scans. Maybe its a bit recessed.
I'm gonna get jaw surgery anyways to fix condylar hyperplasia (just speculation) Imma visit my surgeon next week.
Maybe I could get bimax simultaneously with condylectomy.

Here's my maxilla

Yeah , in your case , just get infraorbital rim implants

 

[fruitgunpop]

Yeah , in your case , just get infraorbital rim implants

Yeah that and supraorbital implants as well and nose bridge augmentation

 

[Birdcell]

Yeah that and supraorbital implants as well and nose bridge augmentation

Philipino ?

 

[fruitgunpop]

Philipino ?

 

[StrangerDanger]

OP , I have the same issue tbh , I have very wide cheekbones but little bit anterior projection

You wouldnt want apple cheeks do you

 

[fruitgunpop]

You wouldnt want apple cheeks do you
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Not to that degree

Something like delon

Or this guy

 

[Birdcell]

You wouldnt want apple cheeks do you
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Nah bro , I'm proud of my caucasoid skull , wouldn't want to have some asian features , even when I was very lean I didn't have apple cheeks

 

[Deleted member 5892]

I dont think so