Dr.A is shooting against E, and his silicone implants. Battle of the surgeons

[Deusmaximus]

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Dr. A isn't even a good surgeon tbh but he's a marketing genius

Day by day, incels are making up more and more of Eppley's consumer base and pretty much offer up free advertising on the internet. Eppley's getting older, and people are realising that implants have drawbacks that arent entirely obvious.

There is no Dr Eppley equivalent for osteotomies bc you can't be a quack for such delicate procedures

But in comes Dr. A with his low prices, wide range of osteotomy procedures and SUFFICIENT skill, ready to steal all of Eppley's clientele

RIP Eppley

 

[Deusmaximus]

Dr. A isn't even a good surgeon tbh but he's a marketing genius

Day by day, incels are making up more and more of Eppley's consumer base and pretty much offer up free advertising on the internet. Eppley's getting older, and people are realising that implants have drawbacks that arent entirely obvious.

There is no Dr Eppley equivalent for osteotomies bc you can't be a quack for such delicate procedures

But in comes Dr. A with his low prices, wide range of osteotomy procedures and SUFFICIENT skill, ready to steal all of Eppley's clientele

RIP Eppley

There is not a single before and after from E in which a young guy raised his psl by jaw implants. Maybe the good results dont want to get their pictures shared, but on the other hand there are countless examples of bad uncanny results. I never saw a overdone/uncanny result of a chin wing/bimax.

Why do you think A he is not a good surgeon? He has a lot of good before and after pictures on his instagram. E almost never posts results.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

There is not a single before and after from E in which a young guy raised his psl by jaw implants. Maybe the good results dont want to get their pictures shared, but on the other hand there are countless examples of bad uncanny results. I never saw a overdone/uncanny result of a chin wing/bimax.

Why do you think A he is not a good surgeon? He has a lot of good before and after pictures on his instagram. E almost never posts results.

He's an ADEQUATE surgeon. That's it. He's young and lacks consistency and harmony in many of his BEST results (the ones on instagram). Calling him good is an insult to the best of the best, of which I can think of 5.

 

[Deusmaximus]

He's an ADEQUATE surgeon. That's it. He's young and lacks consistency and harmony in many of his BEST results (the ones on instagram). Calling him good is an insult to the best of the best, of which I can think of 5.

Btw i was wrong. I just found some okay looking results from E. Implants can be legit for absolutely non recessed guys, without a small mouth.

 

[goat2x]

Correcting skeletal problems will always be better

 

[Donc0ck]

Correcting skeletal problems will always be better

Yes but for smth like infraorbital or zygos there are sadly no good osteotomies..
If silicon is not the way then medpor?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Yes but for smth like infraorbital or zygos there are sadly no good osteotomies..
If silicon is not the way then medpor?

giga-cope

MLF3 is not a meme and even has a far better/ quicker recovery than jaw surgery.

Only OKAYISH implant material is HA paste. The end.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Btw i was wrong. I just found some okay looking results from E. Implants can be legit for absolutely non recessed guys, without a small mouth.

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Yes but:

Correcting skeletal problems will always be better

Fuck having to worry about infection etc

 

[goat2x]

Yes but:

Fuck having to worry about infection etc

Fuck having to worry about infections with silicone,Bone resorption, having a car crash,punched in the face

 

[goat2x]

Yes but for smth like infraorbital or zygos there are sadly no good osteotomies..
If silicon is not the way then medpor?

yes there are

 

[Donc0ck]

giga-cope

MLF3 is not a meme and even has a far better/ quicker recovery than jaw surgery.

Only OKAYISH implant material is HA paste. The end.

I am not really bought in on mlf3, I wish it was that easy. Do you have a collection of results of it?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I am not really bought in on mlf3, I wish it was that easy. Do you have a collection of results of it?

Sorry man, the only results I've seen were in surgeon's offices. Many people don't want their B&As to be public, for obvious reasons. In my opinion it's the most slept on procedure. Greycels and other idiots on this site say it's a meme just bc it isn't marketed as well some other surgeries. People would genuinely opt for a "quick fix" and get an implant, just to be (worst case) still ugly or (best case) plastic looking.

 

[Deleted member 6217]

mirin my Andrei fuck eppley

 

[MentalistKebab]

Fuck having to worry about infections with silicone,Bone resorption, having a car crash,punched in the face

Literally none if this are common. @Saiyan s implants are in the same place for 2 years and they didnt cause any bone resorption

 

[MentalistKebab]

giga-cope

MLF3 is not a meme and even has a far better/ quicker recovery than jaw surgery.

Only OKAYISH implant material is HA paste. The end.

Lmao nigga MLF3 is a meme. There arent any result in whole internet, meanwhile there are very good custom implant results

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Literally none if this are common. @Saiyan s implants are in the same place for 2 years and they didnt cause any bone resorption

just use one example as evidence for the countless cases of complications on the internet, seems legit

Lmao nigga MLF3 is a meme. There arent any result in whole internet, meanwhile there are very good custom implant results

Greycels and other idiots on this site say it's a meme just bc it isn't marketed as well some other surgeries.

No one cares if you or anyone else falls for the trap

You're the male equivalent of a dumb instagram girl who gets copious amounts of fillers

 

[goat2x]

Literally none if this are common. @Saiyan s implants are in the same place for 2 years and they didnt cause any bone resorption

" 2 years"
getting punched in the face and bone resorption arent common jfl

 

[MentalistKebab]

just use one example as evidence for the countless cases of complications on the internet, seems legit



No one cares if you or anyone else falls for the trap

You're the male equivalent of a dumb instagram girl who gets copious amounts of fillers

Bro its not "not marketed". Its rare as fuck. Noone is gonna give us MLF3 wothout having giga-subhuman dravidian orbitals.

Its not a cosmetic procedure now whether you wanna admit it or not

 

[MentalistKebab]

" 2 years"
getting punched in the face and bone resorption arent common jfl

Where tf do you live you get punched in the face ?

In all my 4 fights at 8. grade I was the one started the fight, most guys never even had once fight in their lifes.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Bro its not "not marketed". Its rare as fuck. Noone is gonna give us MLF3 wothout having giga-subhuman dravidian orbitals.
Its not a cosmetic procedure now whether you wanna admit it or not

according to who?

Just bc B&As don't exist online? You only need to get a consult with one of the surgeons who performs it to see a whole host of B&As.

MLF3 (as discussed on this forum) is NOT a functional procedure. It is a modified version of LF3 for AESTHETIC purposes. This is why it is surgically simplified and makes use of HA paste. It is also the reason for doctors who perform this procedure dubbing it at "malar osteotomy" or similar, for normie consumption.

What goes through your mind when you just try and deny the existence of a procedure? What are you even achieving here? The answer is literally NOTHING. You're simply allowing yourself to cope, stroking your delusional vision of your own intelligence or amassed knowledge.

 

[MentalistKebab]

according to who?

Just bc B&As don't exist online? You only need to get a consult with one of the surgeons who performs it to see a whole host of B&As.

MLF3 (as discussed on this forum) is NOT a functional procedure. It is a modified version of LF3 for AESTHETIC purposes. This is why it is surgically simplified and makes use of HA paste. It is also the reason for doctors who perform this procedure dubbing it at "malar osteotomy" or similar, for normie consumption.

What goes through your mind when you just try and deny the existence of a procedure? What are you even achieving here? The answer is literally NOTHING. You're simply allowing yourself to cope, stroking your delusional vision of your own intelligence or amassed knowledge.

Ok broski, everyone here is gonna get their MLF3, but because you specially believed the power of osteotomies Gandy will bless you with an ideal coloring too , and if you continue to believe their existence an be a good boy you might even see the smurfs

 

[Deleted member 2527]

He reminds me of the Homunculus doctor

 

[ScramFranklin]

He's an ADEQUATE surgeon. That's it. He's young and lacks consistency and harmony in many of his BEST results (the ones on instagram). Calling him good is an insult to the best of the best, of which I can think of 5.

Who are the 5 in your opinion?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Who are the 5 in your opinion?

Raf
Alfaro
Zarrinbal

and because it'd be wrong to not include them:

A & G

honourable mention:

Marianetti

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Raf
Alfaro
Zarrinbal

and because it'd be wrong to not include them:

A & G

honourable mention:

Marianetti

to clarify, I based these off of consistency and aesthetics

 

[JosephGarrot123]

what's an alternative to silicone implants? How else am I going to get an browridge implant

 

[Anonymous999]

what's an alternative to silicone implants? How else am I going to get an browridge implant

I'll save you time: I had a brow ridge implant with Eppley and had it removed. Terrible design. And he uses the design on his site as though it's an example of a good result, of course without showing any before and afters. I wonder how many guys have requested that design.

 

[Anonymous999]

PEEK anyone?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I'll save you time: I had a brow ridge implant with Eppley and had it removed. Terrible design. And he uses the design on his site as though it's an example of a good result, of course without showing any before and afters. I wonder how many guys have requested that design.

more proof of implants being garbage

 

[Deleted member 1862]

this forum is honestly half a decade behind JSF

 

[Mayorga]

this forum is honestly half a decade behind JSF

it's to be expected, it's a jack of all trades master of none type of thing.

 

[poloralf]

this forum is honestly half a decade behind JSF

Where is JSF ?

 

[MentalistKebab]

I'll save you time: I had a brow ridge implant with Eppley and had it removed. Terrible design. And he uses the design on his site as though it's an example of a good result, of course without showing any before and afters. I wonder how many guys have requested that design.

Who tf would actually get browridge implants in the first place ? You need deeper eye sockets or at least good fat pads, not looking like a fucking caveman.

 

[ScramFranklin]

Raf
Alfaro
Zarrinbal

and because it'd be wrong to not include them:

A & G

honourable mention:

Marianetti

Lol. I'd agree for the most part. Gunsons is doing mine next year.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Lol. I'd agree for the most part. Gunsons is doing mine next year.

good luck, you must have a functional problem then?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

bone >

 

[Anonymous999]

Who tf would actually get browridge implants in the first place ? You need deeper eye sockets or at least good fat pads, not looking like a fucking caveman.

Guess it's a good thing you're not getting browridge implants then.

 

[Deleted member 5891]

Dr. A isn't even a good surgeon tbh but he's a marketing genius

Are you sure?
I fell for the memes then

 

[baruch]

I'll save you time: I had a brow ridge implant with Eppley and had it removed. Terrible design. And he uses the design on his site as though it's an example of a good result, of course without showing any before and afters. I wonder how many guys have requested that

Did you ever get it replaced?

 

[Copemaxxing]

Dr. A isn't even a good surgeon tbh but he's a marketing genius

Day by day, incels are making up more and more of Eppley's consumer base and pretty much offer up free advertising on the internet. Eppley's getting older, and people are realising that implants have drawbacks that arent entirely obvious.

There is no Dr Eppley equivalent for osteotomies bc you can't be a quack for such delicate procedures

But in comes Dr. A with his low prices, wide range of osteotomy procedures and SUFFICIENT skill, ready to steal all of Eppley's clientele

RIP Eppley

Dr A isnt good? tell me the best surgeons you can think of

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Dr A isnt good? tell me the best surgeons you can think of

read the thread

 

[Copemaxxing]

read the thread

xD

 

[Deleted member 7776]

I'll save you time: I had a brow ridge implant with Eppley and had it removed. Terrible design. And he uses the design on his site as though it's an example of a good result, of course without showing any before and afters. I wonder how many guys have requested that design.

Can you expand on "terrible design"? Like, what did it look like on you? Did it make your eyes any more hooded etc?

 

[Deleted member 7776]

this forum is honestly half a decade behind JSF

I disagree. At least this is active and you get answers. Whenever I posted on JSF, no one would answer my fucking questions and basically JSF is a circlejerk between that pathetic sperg know-it-all Kavan (he's actually said pretty dumb shit lmao) and 3-4 other users including the admin. It's a shit site overall

 

[Anonymous999]

Did you ever get it replaced?

No. And after seeing the video in this thread I am so thankful I got it removed initially!

 

[Anonymous999]

Can you expand on "terrible design"? Like, what did it look like on you? Did it make your eyes any more hooded etc?

I looked like an animal out of the ocean, like a sperm whale or fetus. The whole point was to have the projection sit very low and to give that flat "mean" look. I said repeatedly I wanted the Tom Brady / Sean O'Pry look. Projection came out high above the brow and rounded. The implant won't actually lower the angle of your brow at all. It just functions to add projection. So you won't look "meaner," just exactly as you do now but with more anterior projection. You learn going through this sort of thing that a low brow isn't really a matter of anterior projection as much as it is just soft tissue and where your eyebrow hair follicles are. You'll have some guys with big brows who don't carry that "mean" look, and other guys who have a pretty flat brow on profile but who somehow have a low, flat masculine look.

There's a reason Eppley doesn't have many before and afters on his site. It's because he knows the aesthetics of the actual results don't match the hype of the artistic CT designs. If the results are good, why wouldn't he just show them? This isn't even a subjective opinion on my end. He literally has my poor design up on his site as though it's an example of a good one. I'm sure plenty of guys have pointed to my design over the years and said "wow yeah I want something like that."

Should also note (because this is relevant to the original video the OP posted): Eppley had mentioned to me that occasionally patients say if they push on part(s) of the implant, that it will squeak. By definition, that must mean there's mobilization of the silicone, with varying degrees of gap between implant and bone. Otherwise, it should not be audible when you push on it.

 

[WannaBeA6]

read the thread

Does R perform MLF3? I'm fixated with having surgery with him next year, even if I have to spend 20k on it fuck it, gonna beg for a LF 2 in which he can move my lower orbitals

 

[Deleted member 4466]

I looked like an animal out of the ocean, like a sperm whale or fetus. The whole point was to have the projection sit very low and to give that flat "mean" look. I said repeatedly I wanted the Tom Brady / Sean O'Pry look. Projection came out high above the brow and rounded. The implant won't actually lower the angle of your brow at all. It just functions to add projection. So you won't look "meaner," just exactly as you do now but with more anterior projection. You learn going through this sort of thing that a low brow isn't really a matter of anterior projection as much as it is just soft tissue and where your eyebrow hair follicles are. You'll have some guys with big brows who don't carry that "mean" look, and other guys who have a pretty flat brow on profile but who somehow have a low, flat masculine look.

There's a reason Eppley doesn't have many before and afters on his site. It's because he knows the aesthetics of the actual results don't match the hype of the artistic CT designs. If the results are good, why wouldn't he just show them? This isn't even a subjective opinion on my end. He literally has my poor design up on his site as though it's an example of a good one. I'm sure plenty of guys have pointed to my design over the years and said "wow yeah I want something like that."

Should also note (because this is relevant to the original video the OP posted): Eppley had mentioned to me that occasionally patients say if they push on part(s) of the implant, that it will squeak. By definition, that must mean there's mobilization of the silicone, with varying degrees of gap between implant and bone. Otherwise, it should not be audible when you push on it.

I appreciate this post, very helpful info. Sorry you had to go through that experience. I actually consulted w Eppley about custom midface implants and this thread has pretty much completely turned me away from the idea now...

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I disagree. At least this is active and you get answers. Whenever I posted on JSF, no one would answer my fucking questions and basically JSF is a circlejerk between that pathetic sperg know-it-all Kavan (he's actually said pretty dumb shit lmao) and 3-4 other users including the admin. It's a shit site overall

idk what it's devolved into now but back when I used to post on there I'd get responses. Kavan is pretty pathetic but if you just ignore his crappy attitude he gives good info. Plus there's already loads of material on the forum, it's not likely that your question hasn't been answered.

Who cares if you get answers on this site? They're wrong more than half of the time. Most people don't know shit and theres only a handful of good users/ posts on the site. The best of the best section is good but other than that it's 60+ % just monkey ramblings