Ending the physique cope

[20/04/2008]

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It's not 100% precise, but this diagram should give a clear understanding of how much your SMV can be increased and what the optimal weight is.

Your SMV can be increased by 1 SMV point out of 10. (handballed)

Optimal weight is between 80-95kg (depending on height, etc. ofc.)

After that the SMV decreases slightly again and everything above 110kg becomes worse and worse. (Depends on the girls + age of you, for Orc being above 100kg works atleast.)

@halloweed @castizo_ascender @N1666 @craven @mrmogger2882

Basicaly aslong your not a mass monster
Your okay
Water ahh thread

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

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It's not 100% precise, but this diagram should give a clear understanding of how much your SMV can be increased and what the optimal weight is.

Your SMV can be increased by 1 SMV point out of 10. (handballed)

Optimal weight is between 80-95kg (depending on height, etc. ofc.)

After that the SMV decreases slightly again and everything above 110kg becomes worse and worse. (Depends on the girls + age of you, for Orc being above 100kg works atleast.)

@halloweed @castizo_ascender @N1666 @craven @mrmogger2882

This means a Lanklet death tier guy who's chad facially is equal to gymmaxxed mtn because chad x0.15 = LTNish

Unless I'm reading this wrong

 

[Jonas2k7]

Basicaly aslong your not a mass monster
Your okay
Water ahh thread

Stfu look at some of the replies "muh gymmaxxing is cope"

This means a Lanklet death tier guy who's chad facially is equal to gymmaxxed mtn because chad x0.15 = LTNish

Unless I'm reading this wrong

Explain

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Stfu look at some of the replies "muh gymmaxxing is cope"

Explain

I just did

 

[20/04/2008]

Stfu look at some of the replies "muh gymmaxxing is cope"

Explain

Just ignore them gymmaxibg is overrated but that does not mean its useless

 

[Jonas2k7]

I just did

Nigga I didn't understand what u mean Just explain

 

[EliDKing]

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It's not 100% precise, but this diagram should give a clear understanding of how much your SMV can be increased and what the optimal weight is.

Your SMV can be increased by 1 SMV point out of 10. (handballed)

Optimal weight is between 80-95kg (depending on height, etc. ofc.)

After that the SMV decreases slightly again and everything above 110kg becomes worse and worse. (Depends on the girls + age of you, for Orc being above 100kg works atleast.)

@halloweed @castizo_ascender @N1666 @craven @mrmogger2882

if i were to be 179-180 what would be optimal muscle (asking for a friend im a 7'9 slayer btw)

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Nigga I didn't understand what u mean Just explain

So read it again, you rat.

 

[brazistine62]

If you would please consult the graph:

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

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send a link to his tiktok bro whats his phsyique like

 

[Jonas2k7]

This means a Lanklet death tier guy who's chad facially is equal to gymmaxxed mtn because chad x0.15 = LTNish

Unless I'm reading this wrong

Your message appears to use niche internet slang and shorthand, likely from "looksmaxxing" or "self-improvement" communities. Let me break it down as best as possible:

1. "Lanklet death tier":
   • "Lanklet" refers to someone who is tall and skinny, often viewed as less imposing or physically attractive compared to a more muscular physique.
   • "Death tier" implies this person is in a very low or undesirable category for physical appeal, specifically due to being lanky.
2. "Guy who's chad facially":
   • Despite their "lanklet" status, this person has a "Chad" face, meaning their facial structure is very attractive and masculine.
3. "Equal to gymmaxxed mtn":
   • "Gymmaxxed" refers to someone who has optimized their physical appearance through rigorous gym training and bodybuilding.
   • "Mtn" might refer to "mountain," symbolizing a large, muscular individual.
4. "Because chad x0.15 = LTNish":
   • This seems to imply that the facial attractiveness of a "Chad" (x0.15) equals someone who is "LTNish"—possibly shorthand for "low-tier normie-ish."
   • It suggests that even a slight reduction in a "Chad's" attractiveness could drop them into a normie category, depending on their physique.

Explanation:​

The message suggests that an extremely skinny but facially attractive person (a "lanklet Chad") can be considered equivalent in appeal to a muscular, gym-optimized person because the face contributes heavily to overall attractiveness. However, diminishing their facial "Chad" qualities by even 15% would drop their perceived attractiveness significantly, highlighting the importance of both face and physique in overall appeal.

If this doesn't clarify, feel free to provide more context!

 

[Jonas2k7]

if i were to be 179-180 what would be optimal muscle (asking for a friend im a 7'9 slayer btw)

80-95kg

 

[Norwegian LTN]

You will never get to big natural (unless fat)

 

[Jonas2k7]

This means a Lanklet death tier guy who's chad facially is equal to gymmaxxed mtn because chad x0.15 = LTNish

Unless I'm reading this wrong

You read this too wrong it's not that deep my nigga

My intellectual graph just illustrates optimal bodyweight lean, dimishing returns after too high lean bodyweight and the maximal amount of SMV increase for anyone

gymmaxxed MTN>=HTN

You will never get to big natural (unless fat)

Nobody said something different, this thread supports roidmaxxing ofc nobody can be even 90kg 10% bf naturally in just a few years of natural training (maybe possible with a decade of training)

 

[Hexmask]

being able to cope with looking like shit for months is what separates physiques, you will never be big if you can't deal with this.

Nigga what’s ur steroid protocol. Are you on fin or dut?

 

[Jonas2k7]

Nigga what’s ur steroid protocol. Are you on fin or dut?

He is vegan and natty bro

 

[Hexmask]

He is vegan and natty bro

Ik saar

 

[Orc]

He is vegan and natty bro

praying five times a day goes a long way insjallah peace be upon him.

 

[Jonas2k7]

@Underdog9494 do your job

 

[LVZZO]

Top 0.01% natural or top 5% roided
1 in 10 000

VS
Top 1% natural achievable in 1-3 years
1 in 100

This is like 75 from 95kg, SMV increase is like 0.25-0.5 I would say, but many girls probably disagree is even better
So a bit more than your graph but still the idea of diminished returns for the effort remains.

 

[Underdog9494]

@Underdog9494 do your job

SIR YES SIR!

 

[forearmgod]

the only non cope thread i have seen today

 

[Deusmaximus]

People still claiming gym is cope is so insane to me. Especially roiding.

Thats because a twink but handsome faced guy looks very aesthetic on pictures. The same guy will look nerdy, weak and not sexually attractive in social settings like clubs where a rtt guy will mog brutally.

 

[actualunderstander]

kys greynerdcel

I literally said that it's not 100% scientifically accurate nigga, the purpose was to illustrate the optimal weight range LEAN and the decline or stagnation in SMV after a certain point.

It's not 20% scientific either lol. It's just numbers you came up with with and threw them into a chart. You didn't come up with this "data",just guessed basically

 

[Jonas2k7]

It's not 20% scientific either lol. It's just numbers you came up with with and threw them into a chart. You didn't come up with this "data",just guessed basically

I didn't claim that it's a scientific article or whatever, try to disprove my points anyway. This was supposed to be a quick thread to illustrate my thoughts in form of a interesting graph, nothing more.

 

[actualunderstander]

I didn't claim that it's a scientific article or whatever, try to disprove my points anyway. This was supposed to be a quick thread to illustrate my thoughts in form of a interesting graph, nothing more.

Well I think having a good body without too much mass brings you up two points instead of one. What you think about that?

 

[Hexmask]

Me in early 2023 before blackpill and me recently. but NO Saar my SMV didn’t increase at all and I definitely don’t mog everyone at 6 foot 1. Anyone who says gym is cope should just LDAR. Unless you want to be built like a gay twink(zeta)

 

[Jonas2k7]

Well I think having a good body without too much mass brings you up two points instead of one. What you think about that?

You are low iq, I won't further engage with you. Get off my thread

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Me in early 2023 before blackpill and me recently. but NO Saar my SMV didn’t increase at all and I definitely don’t mog everyone at 6 foot 1. Anyone who says gym is cope should just LDAR. Unless you want to be built like a gay twink(zeta)

Mirin bro

 

[Hexmask]

Mirin bro

Thank u bhai, chasing vegan creatine enjoyer @Orc

 

[Orc]

Thank u bhai, chasing vegan creatine enjoyer @Orc

I don't use creatine I don't respond to it at all.

 

[edodalic29]

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Ascends & he probably wouldnt be a fucking homosexual if he looked like that on the right

 

[Hexmask]

I don't use creatine I don't respond to it at all.

I respond to duck eggs. 32 of them is the same as me on a test cycle. I’m natty brœ

 

[Orc]

I respond to duck eggs. 32 of them is the same as me on a test cycle. I’m natty brœ

vince looked like shit relaxed so he should've eaten more eggs.

 

[R@m@]

Have you tried isometric reverse flys or what

 

[Hexmask]

vince looked like shit relaxed so he should've eaten more eggs.

Maybe if he ate raw cow balls he would look good.

 

[Jonas2k7]

Have you tried isometric reverse flys or what

Mogger exercise

These mog tho

 

[R@m@]

Mogger exercise
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These mog tho

But doing them like this will hit side delts more

Because your shoulders are more externally rotated

Plus overcoming isometrics youre contracting the muscle 100%

 

[AlbinoMaxxer]

I hate when people say physique is cope, they think we are saying that a physique can make up for being subhuman. It’s just a multiplier on top of your looks. They also think one cycle will turn you into a bloated Mr Olympia without realising these people have been blasting grams for years.

The only exception to physique or gym being cope is the retards who dirty bulk or whatever cringe shit these new gym influencers push.

No it’s cope be because muscles are male gaze for the most part, jbl

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

What would be your weight at 8-10% bodyfat?

Around 105 102kgs wich is near arnold scharzenegger level at an olympia in 70s

 

[Bodhisattva]

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It's not 100% precise, but this diagram should give a clear understanding of how much your SMV can be increased and what the optimal weight is.

Your SMV can be increased by 1 SMV point out of 10. (handballed)

Optimal weight is between 80-95kg (depending on height, etc. ofc.)

After that the SMV decreases slightly again and everything above 110kg becomes worse and worse. (Depends on the girls + age of you, for Orc being above 100kg works atleast.)

@halloweed @castizo_ascender @N1666 @craven @mrmogger2882

fuck man i need to get jacked asap i am skinnyfat shitskin that weighs less than 130lbs at 5'11 jfl

 

[Eblan]

So if I'm 6'3 191cm how much should I weigh at 12% bf. Rn I'm 80kgs 9%

 

[Jonas2k7]

So if I'm 6'3 191cm how much should I weigh at 12% bf. Rn I'm 80kgs 9%

90-100kg.

 

[GreekGenes]

Very true. Being Musclemaxxed can make a high mtn become a low htn. And a high htn a low chadlite.

However,musclemaxxing is pointless for below mtn, since the 1 smv point you may gain won't be enough to make you attractive to womyn.

 

[Jonas2k7]

Very true. Being Musclemaxxed can make a high mtn become a low htn. And a high htn a low chadlite.

Yes. Gymmaxxed High MTN >= Low HTN.

However,musclemaxxing is pointless for below mtn, since the 1 smv point you may gain won't be enough to make you attractive to womyn.

So you are saying "Just LDAR if below MTN bro"

Better looks = better looks. It doesn't matter if LTN or Chadlite, having 1 SMV point more is always something good.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

your weight is fucking irrelevant if you're short, have narrow clavicles and a big waist

 

[org3cel.RR]

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It's not 100% precise, but this diagram should give a clear understanding of how much your SMV can be increased and what the optimal weight is.

Your SMV can be increased by 1 SMV point out of 10. (handballed)

Optimal weight is between 80-95kg (depending on height, etc. ofc.)

After that the SMV decreases slightly again and everything above 110kg becomes worse and worse. (Depends on the girls + age of you, for Orc being above 100kg works atleast.)

@halloweed @castizo_ascender @N1666 @craven @mrmogger2882

Ideal bmi?

 

[Jonas2k7]

Ideal bmi?

Bmi is cope bro

It is not including muscle mass and other important parameters