Expectations <> Reality

[Beetlejuice]

mogs me

 

[Looks234]

Nah I don't think so. I've seen worse looking white dudes go viral on tiktok. Requirement for going viral on tiktok is at least HTN. Rate both this dude and @Syobevoli on psl

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Low trust face knocks him down a little

 

[Deleted member 275]

Study this picture .

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The story is about the conditioning of elephants in the circus, they get beaten down to think that some small peg in the ground can hold them down.

The reality is that, that elephant can easily break free at anytime it wants with ease but its mind has limitations on it.

Yes i know its redpill mantra but i see way too many examples of you having opportunities but then you self sabotage it.

I agree with this, but there's no way out of this. Your self-esteem, mind, is formed in your childhood.
I was truecel in my childhood and now I have realized that there's no real ascension.

Yes the elephant, me, grows up and the rope that has had him tied up all his life, is no longer strong enough to tie him down. But he has lost it's will, it's energy, it's motivation, to go out there.

I have tried joining clubs, starting relationships, 'slaying', etc. And it never sticked to me, it never ignited that fire inside of me to let go of my past and embrace a new life. Even during that relationship, I still felt ugly and subhuman and her positive opinions of me didn't affect my feelings or self-esteem. My mind stays defensive.

It might be over, even my psychiatrist advised 'electro-shock' therapy which basically means they fry your brain. Might aswell blast it with a gun at that point ngl.


All I am doing now is frauding NT IRL, while barely getting by. Only this forum knows my true identity.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nah I don't think so. I've seen worse looking white dudes go viral on tiktok. Requirement for going viral on tiktok is at least HTN. Rate both this dude and @Syobevoli on psl

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That's him bloated as fuck as well
Him lean he is chadlite.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Low trust face knocks him down a little

Not being medium ugly knocks him down a whole tier

 

[Deleted member 275]

Low trust face knocks him down a little

the guy on the left legit mogs me idk why ppl cope with masc lowtrust so hard on this forum. It is only attractive to a small subset of women, usually with severe daddy issues, mental illness. As I can tell by the girls willing to go on a date with me.

People here think women want to fuck gorillas. just lol

 

[Gaia262]

I agree with this, but there's no way out of this. Your self-esteem, mind, is formed in your childhood.
I was truecel in my childhood and now I have realized that there's no real ascension.

Yes the elephant, me, grows up and the rope that has had him tied up all his life, is no longer strong enough to tie him down. But he has lost it's will, it's energy, it's motivation, to go out there.

I have tried joining clubs, starting relationships, 'slaying', etc. And it never sticked to me, it never ignited that fire inside of me to let go of my past and embrace a new life. Even during that relationship, I still felt ugly and subhuman and her positive opinions of me didn't affect my feelings or self-esteem. My mind stays defensive.

It might be over, even my psychiatrist advised 'electro-shock' therapy which basically means they fry your brain. Might aswell blast it with a gun at that point ngl.


All I am doing now is frauding NT IRL, while barely getting by. Only this forum knows my true identity.

Positive experiences and environment fix this over time having a cool social circle to go out to place with or a hot girlfriend to go out with to places.

Will eventually remedy this self sabotaging cycle.

You at least have the the opportunity, to acquire these things.

Others on here who are actually ugly or undesirable have to "transform" before they can even play the game untill then they have to sit out.

 

[Deleted member 275]

That's him bloated as fuck as well
Him lean he is chadlite.

lean makes me look even less NT. It's complete cope and I actually think I look better, higher trust, bloated judging from the way ppl treat me.

 

[Pythagoras]

A millionaire surrounded by billionaires will be unhappier with his wealth than a middle-class person surrounded by poor people. Idk why u find this hard to understand.

It is funny nonetheless. I didn't mean to shit on you, just to point out the absurdity of this world.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Positive experiences and environment fix this over time having a cool social circle to go out to place with or a hot girlfriend to go out with to places.

Will eventually remedy this self sabotaging cycle.

You at least have the the opportunity, to acquire these things.

I don't know if you are right, but a 4 month relationship with a NT, attractive gf didn't fix me. Neither did a NT fraternity social circle over the course of a year.

If you are right, it probably takes YEARS of positive experiences to fix you. Which isn't easy to achieve at all.

It just took a lot of energy and I felt like socializing became a burden, a performance with ppl I never related to.

 

[Deleted member 275]

It is funny nonetheless. I didn't mean to shit on you, just to point out the absurdity of this world.

We live in a clownworld tbh. And social interactions are at the root of this dysfunction because those relative experiences shape your life quality.

I deleted all my socialmedia profiles today and I am aiming of going off the grid entirely in the near future because socializing isn't healthy. People's/Society's expectations and demands on my life are too high, I can't fullfill them.

 

[Gaia262]

I don't know if you are right, but a 4 month relationship with a NT, attractive gf didn't fix me. Neither did a NT fraternity social circle over the course of a year.

If you are right, it probably takes YEARS of positive experiences to fix you. Which isn't easy to achieve at all.

It just took a lot of energy and I felt like socializing became a burden, a performance with ppl I never related to.

If i recall its approximately 7 years to fix it to the point your new self will cringe at how your old self was. Basically become a new person.

It took you decades to get to this point no way is it going to be a few months. The brain requires a huge amount of time to rewire.

Most normie start off strong at life at 23 then 7 years later after the conditioning of wage cucking a desk job, consumerism, bills to pay ect They all become beaten down cucks, which what the elite want. the elite are well aware of how long it takes to condition a person.

 

[AlexAP]

It might be over, even my psychiatrist advised 'electro-shock' therapy which basically means they fry your brain. Might aswell blast it with a gun at that point ngl.

Electro shock therapy is still a thing? What disgusting bastards, how did they come to the idea?

 

[Deleted member 275]

If i recall its approximately 7 years to fix it to the point your new self will cringe at how your old self was. Basically become a new person.

It took you decades to get to the point no way is it going to be a few months. The brain requires a huge amount of time to rewire.

I already cringe at who I was 7 years ago and I recognize my old cringe self when I see 19yo ugly STEMcel nerds walking around campus, ngl. So atleast there's that improvement.

On the other hand, you can't change your life for multiple years in a row. That relationship was destined to break-up since she was the typical 'most popular highschool girl everyone wanted to date' type of girl so we weren't a great match.
it's been 3 years since and I haven't been able to get into a relationship with a girl like that again, I lucked out. It's not something I can maintain for years and change myself.

Same for the frat I was in. Being kind of a weird outsider is cool and all the first year. But you can't keep up that 'oh I am just the new guy, dont mind me' vibe for much longer. You just become the 'weirdo' and get rejected socially.

Mentalmaxxing is extremely hard, even therapists, psychiatrists, etc. have no clue of how it works. I've gotten better life advice here than form those therapy sessions.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Electro shock therapy is still a thing? What disgusting bastards, how did they come to the idea?

Yes. It's disgusting tbh.

In the netherlands, you get therapy sessions 45 mins per week and access to SSRI meds. That's the first step basically.

If that doesn't cure you in a timely fashion (<2 years), you are considered 'severely' depressed and they advise shock therapy as a possible cure.

It's just cagefuel ngl. Makes you want to go ER.

 

[Gaia262]

I already cringe at who I was 7 years ago and I recognize my old cringe self when I see 19yo ugly STEMcel nerds walking around campus, ngl. So atleast there's that improvement.

On the other hand, you can't change your life for multiple years in a row. That relationship was destined to break-up since she was the typical 'most popular highschool girl everyone wanted to date' type of girl so we weren't a great match.
it's been 3 years since and I haven't been able to get into a relationship with a girl like that again, I lucked out. It's not something I can maintain for years and change myself.

Same for the frat I was in. Being kind of a weird outsider is cool and all the first year. But you can't keep up that 'oh I am just the new guy, dont mind me' vibe for much longer. You just become the 'weirdo' and get rejected socially.

Mentalmaxxing is extremely hard, even therapists, psychiatrists, etc. have no clue of how it works. I've gotten better life advice here than form those therapy sessions.

I have no idea how people can bust their neurotransmitters at the age of 23 when they havnt been exposed to the " real world" yet , yours should still be in balance as everyone else's.

It a shame as this is the prime of your youth to enjoy these things.

You won't get these kind of opportunities in your 30s when you have found yourself.

 

[fras]

Yes. It's disgusting tbh.

In the netherlands, you get therapy sessions 45 mins per week and access to SSRI meds. That's the first step basically.

If that doesn't cure you in a timely fashion (<2 years), you are considered 'severely' depressed and they advise shock therapy as a possible cure.

It's just cagefuel ngl. Makes you want to go ER.

It's basically just "we'll fuck with your brain until you're fit to work again"

Fuck them

 

[Deleted member 275]

I have no idea how people can bust their neurotransmitters at the age of 23 when they havnt been exposed to the " real world" yet , yours should still be in balance as everyone else's.

What is 'the real world'?

Student life is much harsher than wageslave life. Longer working hours, no money, treated as a lesser human being because you are a 'student'. Doing stuff you don't like just to get a degree, etc.

It a shame as this is the prime of your youth to enjoy these things.

'Prime of your youth' doesn't mean anything. I was a 23yo KHHV incel studyslaving away, with no social life and no romantic experiences. Treated like shit by my parents and living in poverty. All of this isn't even that 'abnormal' in the netherlands, many people live youths like this.

What's prime or joyfull about it?
Having a fun, joyfull youth is a privilege that I and many other never have and never will have.

It should never be considered the norm.

You won't get these kind of opportunities in your 30s when you have found yourself.

Ofcourse. Life is unfair. Some win and have fun. Others lose and kill themselves. Nothing new.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

How to cope with expectations being so far off from reality in life?

Never would I have thought to end up as a 23yo KHHV incel. Seen as unattractive worthless shit by women.
Never would I have thought to end up as an unvalued, underpaid, overtaxed wageslave. Even though I am top 1% in IQ and academic achievement, it's useless.
Never would I have thought to end up with mediocre to non-existant friendgroups.
Never would I have thought to end up with a boring-ass life.

Etc.

Frankly at this point I am wondering what a man can do that is lead towards a life like this since his childhood. Trained, educated and indoctrinated into this path.

I feel completely alone in life, because most people seem to 'accept' this shit-tier life and tell me to 'accept' it aswell. And as a human I have this trashtier tendency to want to fit in.

Thoughts?

You seem to know a lot about dating and women, you aren‘t really incel, are you?

@Gaia262 tell him what to do

 

[Deleted member 7098]

yes I’m a 32 y/o aspie khhv @WontStopNorwooding

Larp, Right? Always imagined you to be a late teen with lot of drip

 

[Looks234]

Always imagined you to be a late teen with lot of drip

You imagined right

 

[Deleted member 13332]

wish i was stupid as fuck just like @looksmaxxer234 then i would slay and live a happy life

 

[Deleted member 756]

You’re 5.5 psl

 

[Deleted member 13332]

You’re 5.5 psl

in that pic with short hair he is

 

[Gaia262]

You seem to know a lot about dating and women, you aren‘t really incel, are you?

@Gaia262 tell him what to do

Been with over 100 escorts not sure if that counts.

I'm just giving him life advice not really dating advice.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Unreasonable expectations. This is what I feel society demands, what is expected, what leads to a good life.

I was born in poverty in the netherlands. I feel like it's an unreasonable expectation that I could ever crawl out of this poverty and become rich/succesfull some day in my lifetime.

I was born ugly and deformed in a dysfunctional family, leading to 23yo inceldom. I feel like it's an unreasonable expectation that I could ever form healthy relationships in my life and ever have a family.

I was always bullied and rejected socially since my childhood. I feel like it's an unreasonable expectation that I could ever have healthy social circles, friends, people I feel at home with and vibe with.

More reasonable expectations. This is what I CAN achieve:

A mediocre job that has me living paycheck to paycheck for the rest of my life with barely any free spendable income.

A shitty relationship with a woman I am not really attracted to and don't really even vibe with that ends up falling apart. Getting divorced.

Mediocre friends that I hangout with once in a while and will backstab me/drop me when they no longer need me.



Very demotivating to know that my life is limited to this and probably the reason why I ldar instead of living a mediocre life.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

lean makes me look even less NT. It's complete cope and I actually think I look better, higher trust, bloated judging from the way ppl treat me.

You would have success as a SEAmaxxer.

 

[Deleted member 275]

You would have success as a SEAmaxxer.

no

 

[Deleted]

Never would I have thought to end up as a 23yo KHHV incel. Seen as unattractive worthless shit by women.

Ngl first 2-3 months of my relationship was like a disney movie but after that i was just suffering.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Ngl first 2-3 months of my relationship was like a disney movie but after that i was just suffering.

I had a peak the first month, then it dropped and slowly started becoming better again over-time.

 

[Deleted]

I had a peak the first month, then it dropped and slowly started becoming better again over-time.

Fuck you chad

 

[thegoat]

Ive never spoken to a foid, but id imagine its the same as speaking to @Syobevoli complaining about muh struggles

 

[Deleted member 15406]

yes I’m a 32 y/o aspie khhv @WontStopNorwooding

wait ur 32

 

[Deleted member 275]

Fuck you chad

I would be stacy if female, fuck my life

 

[fras]

I would be stacy if female, fuck my life

Gigastacy tbh

 

[Deleted member 275]

Ive never spoken to a foid, but id imagine its the same as speaking to @Syobevoli complaining about muh struggles

i dont talk about my struggles irl

its not accepted to struggle in life as a male so I pretend I am a happy, NT slayer.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

i dont talk about my struggles irl

its not accepted to struggle in life as a male so I pretend I am a happy, NT slayer.

what's your field of study?

 

[Deleted member 275]

what's your field of study?

 

[Deleted member 14918]

just do drugs bro

 

[Deleted member 7098]

work for a hedgefund or go into quant finance if you want to make the big bucks

hell, even insurance risk management, there are plenty of good paying jobs for STEMcels

 

[Deleted member 275]

work for a hedgefund or go into quant finance if you want to make the big bucks

hell, even insurance risk management, there are plenty of good paying jobs for STEMcels

I guess. I would have to move a diff country too though. There's no good pay in the netherlands, its overtaxed, living costs are too high.

U would be working ur ass of with shit tier net income.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

I guess. I would have to move a diff country too though. There's no good pay in the netherlands, its overtaxed, living costs are too high.

U would be working ur ass of with shit tier net income.

Belgium has some of the best paying quant jobs in europe and literally 1000s of banks because the entire EU washes their money in that country

 

[TITUS]

It get's better, once you rope.

 

[Over]

How many incels were 23.5yo khhv's here? I am bottom percentile even on incel forums. Only the likes of @Over compete with my suffering.

Losing khhv gave me insight that it was all nothing special. Cuddling naked in bed feels good, but for me playing games and doing what I love is better.

Make Tinder and see if you get some matches

 

[APJ]

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[APJ]

I guess. I would have to move a diff country too though. There's no good pay in the netherlands, its overtaxed, living costs are too high.

U would be working ur ass of with shit tier net income.

How easy is it for a Dutch person to learn German? I'm thinking you could look at finance in Frankfurt

 

[Deleted member 5786]

I am somewhere near 6 slays with no meaningfull relationships so far.

Education/job doesn't matter at all for life quality. Idk what ur point is.

tupasplashmax @Thompsonz

 

[.👽.]

kys you look like a wallmart henry cavill and you cry about it?

meanwhile im 33yo virgin and never talked with a female except my mother

also boring friends

and homeless from time to time

 

[Deleted member 13332]

tupasplashmax @Thompsonz

mef mef mef mef mef mef

 

[Deleted member 13332]

kys you look like a wallmart henry cavill and you cry about it?

meanwhile im 33yo virgin and never talked with a female except my mother

also boring friends

and homeless from time to time

you are 16 year old immigrant from somali or i mistake you with somebody