CFW432
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So the modern day curry's ancestry derives from 3 ancestral groups.
First and foremost, the earliest migrants to the subcontinent, who would become the south asian hunter gatherers, they were one of the earliest migrants out of Africa over 60,000 years ago. The veddid. Though when they had first arrived, they were in their more pure form, which would be termed as malids.
Over time after spending thousands of years in the subcontinents climate and environment, their physical features had adapted somewhat and their appearance changed into what we now would term as the veddids, who themselves also changed into distinct similiar types depending on which region from the subcontinent they hailed from.
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Veddid.html
The next migrants came around 3300 BCE- 2800 BCE. These were the neolithic iranian agriculturalists and farmers who hailed from around the Zagros Mountains. This region at this point in time was known as the civilization of Elam. And there is a THEORY, that is proposed that the modern day Dravidian languages spoken in the southern part of what is now modern day India, shares a linguistic connection with the ancient Elamite language.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
These migrants had migrated into the river valley of what would be considered modern day Sindh, Pakistan, and very clearly, had mixed with MOST of the aforementioned south asian hunter gatherers to form the Indus Valley River Civilization. Noticed how i said MOST, not ALL. This point will make sense later on. Also, notice the bug eye area of these two, and the unprominent brow ridge, especially in comparison to the more prominent brow ridges and hunterish eye areas of the south asian hunter gatherers. Also the darker circles around the bottom part of the eye, especially in the female. This eye area trait, plays a major eye area trait in most modern day curries from the northern part and central part of india, only decreasing in frequency as you start to get towards the southern regions. Coincidence? Of course not.
en.wikipedia.org
Using the technology of FaceApp, i have been able to mesh together these faces in order to be able to see how your typical indus valley civlization denizen would've looked. Behold:
Also, do you notice how all the ugly and "ethnic" looking ones (the 2nd and 3rd pics) are the ones in which the child takes after the mother, while the ones in which the child takes after the father the (the 1st and the 4th pics) are clearly more attractive and beautiful. Its especially amazing to see that even in the 4th pic in which the child apparently takes after her south asian hunter gatherer father, she is still clearly more feminine and cute looking, compared to the 3rd pic in which the ugly child is apparently taking after her iranid farmer mother. Hmm, i wonder how many mens looks were destroyed and were condemned to a life of inceldom, simply because they unfortunately took after their mothers genes. 
Hilariously ironic, that females reject, what they themselves are responsible for creating.
And last but not least, invading tribes from the steppes, specifically, those who called themselves, Arya.
Now i know what you curries are going to say, "hurr durr, aryans weren't nordics". You're right, they weren't MODERN day nordics like these:
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No. The proto indo europeans did look like this though http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html.
I too agree that it is wrong to call them proto-"nordics", but what can you do, europeans have a monopoly on racial anthropological history. However, here http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html, you can correctly see that their shaded homeland (the deep yellow) corresponds with the the same area of the homeland of the indo-european people, and that is NOT SCANDANAVIA. It also clearly shows shaded Gilgit-Baltistan because thats where those people migrated out from the steppes to and mixed with those people native.
THE Indo Nordics:
ARE NOT PURE ARYANS. They are a mix. Remember when i said that not ALL neolithic iranian farmers and agriculturalists got mixed with, only most of them? In the extreme north of the subcontinent around what is now modern day Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan, i would hypothesize there had been a isolated population of iranid farmers/agriculturalists that remained outside of the wider Indus Valley Civilization, unmixed, and only mixed within themselves. Until the proto-indo europeans arrived in the region, and had forcibly assimilated them (mixed with them).
I also have genetic proof to back up this claim.
en.wikipedia.org
"The Kalash of Pakistan are inferred to have ~ 30 % steppe-related ancestry, with the rest being of Iranian Neolithic, Onge and Han."
Major Y-Dna Haplogroups of the kalash are: L3a (22.7%), H1* (20.5%), R1a (18.2%), G (18.2%), J2 (9.1%), R* (6.8%), R1* (2.3%), and L* (2.3%).
Over 77% of the Y dna haplogroups of the kalash origniate out of south asia mainly in WESTERN ASIAN AND CENTRAL ASIA and the R1a haplogroup we all know was the haplogroup carried by the indo-europeans. While the remaining 20.5% H which is native to south asia, and is albeit significant, IS A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY PERCENTAGE.
"Genetic analysis of Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) by Quintana-Murci et al. (2004) stated that "the western Eurasian presence in the Kalash population reaches a frequency of 100%" with the most prevalent mtDNA Haplogroups being U4 (34%), R0 (23%), U2e (16%), and J2 (9%). The study asserted that no East or South Asian lineages were detected and that the Kalash population is composed of maternal western Eurasian lineages (as the associated lineages are rare or absent in the surrounding populations). The authors concluded that a western Eurasian maternal origin for the Kalash is likely.[52]"
Also using FaceApp once again, i can also show how the meshes of both the proto indo europeans and the iranids, DO look similiar to the pheno of Indo Nordics:
There are 4 more pics for this mesh that i will post in my reply to this thread, i can't post more than 25 on this post.
But now i will show you the mix that most modern day indians look similiar to. Since we can quite rightly assume due to their aggressive culture and cultural colonization of the subcontinent towards the people already dwelling in it to form the vedic society, and thereby as extension the caste system, which they used to segregate themselves from the natives, by making themselves apart of the higher caste, and relagating middle caste and lower caste towards the natives. It would be quite rightly to assume that if there was any mixing (which there was you can find steppe genetics in even south indian tribal populations), then it most likely would've been high caste man taking on a native concubine female. It would be certainly almost unheard of a native man ever taking on a high caste woman, and had any situation ever had occurred, it would've almost certainly resulted in the immediate killing of the native man and the destruction of his belongings and property, (BTW SHIT LIKE THIS STILL HAPPENS IN MODERN DAY INDIA. If a man from a lower caste ends up eloping with a girl from a higher caste, the girls family will literally have him beaten up, or even straight up killed to break up the marriage, there are plenty of videos online where you can find a lone dalit/shudra guy getting beaten up by a gang of goons hired by the girls family for him even TALKING TO HER).
Anyway, modern day indians are mix between populations who are called ANI or Ancient "North Indian" (steppe+ indus valley) and ASI or Ancient South Indian, who were mainly of native south asian hunter gatherer DNA with some neolithic iranian heritage. I will also post those meshes in the first reply as well.
First and foremost, the earliest migrants to the subcontinent, who would become the south asian hunter gatherers, they were one of the earliest migrants out of Africa over 60,000 years ago. The veddid. Though when they had first arrived, they were in their more pure form, which would be termed as malids.
The next migrants came around 3300 BCE- 2800 BCE. These were the neolithic iranian agriculturalists and farmers who hailed from around the Zagros Mountains. This region at this point in time was known as the civilization of Elam. And there is a THEORY, that is proposed that the modern day Dravidian languages spoken in the southern part of what is now modern day India, shares a linguistic connection with the ancient Elamite language.
Elam - Wikipedia
Elamo-Dravidian languages - Wikipedia
Indus Valley Civilisation - Wikipedia
Using the technology of FaceApp, i have been able to mesh together these faces in order to be able to see how your typical indus valley civlization denizen would've looked. Behold:
Hilariously ironic, that females reject, what they themselves are responsible for creating.And last but not least, invading tribes from the steppes, specifically, those who called themselves, Arya.
No. The proto indo europeans did look like this though http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html.
I too agree that it is wrong to call them proto-"nordics", but what can you do, europeans have a monopoly on racial anthropological history. However, here http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html, you can correctly see that their shaded homeland (the deep yellow) corresponds with the the same area of the homeland of the indo-european people, and that is NOT SCANDANAVIA. It also clearly shows shaded Gilgit-Baltistan because thats where those people migrated out from the steppes to and mixed with those people native.
THE Indo Nordics:
I also have genetic proof to back up this claim.
Kalash people - Wikipedia
"The Kalash of Pakistan are inferred to have ~ 30 % steppe-related ancestry, with the rest being of Iranian Neolithic, Onge and Han."
Major Y-Dna Haplogroups of the kalash are: L3a (22.7%), H1* (20.5%), R1a (18.2%), G (18.2%), J2 (9.1%), R* (6.8%), R1* (2.3%), and L* (2.3%).
Over 77% of the Y dna haplogroups of the kalash origniate out of south asia mainly in WESTERN ASIAN AND CENTRAL ASIA and the R1a haplogroup we all know was the haplogroup carried by the indo-europeans. While the remaining 20.5% H which is native to south asia, and is albeit significant, IS A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY PERCENTAGE.
"Genetic analysis of Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) by Quintana-Murci et al. (2004) stated that "the western Eurasian presence in the Kalash population reaches a frequency of 100%" with the most prevalent mtDNA Haplogroups being U4 (34%), R0 (23%), U2e (16%), and J2 (9%). The study asserted that no East or South Asian lineages were detected and that the Kalash population is composed of maternal western Eurasian lineages (as the associated lineages are rare or absent in the surrounding populations). The authors concluded that a western Eurasian maternal origin for the Kalash is likely.[52]"
Also using FaceApp once again, i can also show how the meshes of both the proto indo europeans and the iranids, DO look similiar to the pheno of Indo Nordics:
But now i will show you the mix that most modern day indians look similiar to. Since we can quite rightly assume due to their aggressive culture and cultural colonization of the subcontinent towards the people already dwelling in it to form the vedic society, and thereby as extension the caste system, which they used to segregate themselves from the natives, by making themselves apart of the higher caste, and relagating middle caste and lower caste towards the natives. It would be quite rightly to assume that if there was any mixing (which there was you can find steppe genetics in even south indian tribal populations), then it most likely would've been high caste man taking on a native concubine female. It would be certainly almost unheard of a native man ever taking on a high caste woman, and had any situation ever had occurred, it would've almost certainly resulted in the immediate killing of the native man and the destruction of his belongings and property, (BTW SHIT LIKE THIS STILL HAPPENS IN MODERN DAY INDIA. If a man from a lower caste ends up eloping with a girl from a higher caste, the girls family will literally have him beaten up, or even straight up killed to break up the marriage, there are plenty of videos online where you can find a lone dalit/shudra guy getting beaten up by a gang of goons hired by the girls family for him even TALKING TO HER).
Anyway, modern day indians are mix between populations who are called ANI or Ancient "North Indian" (steppe+ indus valley) and ASI or Ancient South Indian, who were mainly of native south asian hunter gatherer DNA with some neolithic iranian heritage. I will also post those meshes in the first reply as well.
