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TLDR how to eyemaxIntroduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
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BumpIntroduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
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I liked the part where he told how to get them
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Deep set eyes is cope it makes u look like a non NT introverted weirdo blud
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u cant its decided before ur born via orbital vector insertion ggs
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I wonder the role of the temporalis in widening the eye socket. Skulls with high temporalis use tend to have vertically wider eye sockets, giving the eye more room to settle in similar to orbital decompression. This also would increase the horizontal length to vertical height ratio, creating a "shorter" eye socket (in reality it is wider). Don't know of this translates to wider pfl but wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
Interestingly high temporalis use in skulls also cause more counterclockwise maxilla rotation and higher fwhr due to wider zygos.
Interestingly high temporalis use in skulls also cause more counterclockwise maxilla rotation and higher fwhr due to wider zygos.
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Great thread op.Introduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
I fixed my subhuman recessed cuck orbital with implants.
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Did you get periorbital fat graft yet ?
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Obviously you should weight the risks and gains. And no psychiatrist is gonna cure the instincts of humanity to select the best genes for he next generation.
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Highlights the importance of undereye support for deep set eyes. You can have a prominent brow but if your underye support is weak it just takes away from it
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British standards of beauty jfl
In Part 2 of Breaking Dawn
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Soon my friend. Will get on infras and supras as well
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Still looks like a major improvement in your current state.
Pagnoni is suggesting only 5.5mm of infras advancement for me as he thinks that going further than that will expose the underlying ligaments and the outlines of the implants because I'm relatively lean (12% bodyfat).
What's your opinion on that ?
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Deep set eyes are easily found in sephardic or mediteranean men, ie not 100% "white"
Genetics.
It also has to do with testosterone during puberty as I have never seen so many non masculine eyes in the young men of today.
95% have high raised eyebrows that make them look like victims.
Genetics.
It also has to do with testosterone during puberty as I have never seen so many non masculine eyes in the young men of today.
95% have high raised eyebrows that make them look like victims.
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I think you should listen to him. He knows what he is talking.
My implants(infras) are also exposed a bit thats why i want to go with fat to smoothen out the apperance.
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Nordics have deeper set eyes than Meds due to better zygo prominence and a heavier brow.
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Introduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
Introduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
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>Just get lefort 2-3 and orbital decompression bro
Do NOT get orbital decompression unless you are ULTRA deformed. The chances of you being fucked for life are high.
Look at Frank Tuffano for example
Do NOT get orbital decompression unless you are ULTRA deformed. The chances of you being fucked for life are high.
Look at Frank Tuffano for example
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I think infra orbital could help broIntroduction
Eye prominence plays a very important role on how your face is perceived, deep-set eyes are a male dimorphic trait, it has been hypothesized that deep-set eyes may be an adaptation for combat, hunting and male intrasexual selection, designed to protect the eyes from hits.
As you can see in the following image, towards the more masculine faces, the eyes become vertically narrower and more sunken:
View attachment 460939
Eye prominence is determined by the projection of the orbital rims in relation to the cornea.
The relationship of the globe to the orbital rims is a primary determinant of the appearance of the upper third of the face. Normal values are shown in the following image:
Classification of eye prominence
To measure the degree of eye prominence a hertel exophthalmometer is used, this device measures the position of the globe in relation to the lateral orbital rim.
The normal range of ocular protrusion as measured from the lateral orbital rim to the corneal apex is 14–21 mm in adults.
Depending on your exophthalmometry measurement, your eyes will be:
-Deep-set (<14mm)-Normal (15 to 17mm)-Moderately prominent (18 to 20mm)-Very prominent (>20mm)
Orbital vector
Eye prominence can also be measured with the orbital vector, the orbital vector is determined by the linear relationship of the most anterior projection of the globe to the most anterior projection of the lower eyelid and the malar eminence.
According to this relationship, the orbital vector will be:
-Positive vector: The most anterior portion of the globe lies posterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies posterior to the anterior malar eminence.-Neutral vector: The anterior globe, lower eyelid margin, and anterior malar eminence all lie in the same vertical plane.-Negative vector: The anterior globe lies anterior to the lower eyelid margin, which lies anterior to the malar eminence.
Negative and positive orbital vectors:
View attachment 460947
The malar eminence is the most prominent point of the zygomatic bone (malar bone) and is always located anterior to the infraorbital rim, this is something that should be taken into account when augmenting the infraorbital rims with implants.
In most cases, a positive vector equates to a deep-set eye, while a negative vector results in a prominent eye.
Achieving deep-set eyes
To achieve deep-set eyes, you can either reduce the prominence of the globe or increase the projection of the orbital rims, in some cases both approaches may be necessary to achieve deep-set eyes.
The surgical procedure to reduce the promience of the eyeballs is called orbital decompression, it involves removing or thinning various safe orbital walls (and orbital fat), thereby expanding the eye socket, allowing the eyeball to settle back.
The best and safest first orbital wall to remove (or thin out) is the lateral orbital wall, followed by the medial wall, and last the orbital floor. More reduction with added risk is taken as more walls are decompressed. Incisions are hidden in the lateral upper eyelid crease (for lateral orbital decompression), caruncle or transcaruncular (for medial wall decompression) and lower eyelid conjunctiva (for orbital floor decompression).
Before and after pics of bilateral orbital decompression:
View attachment 460930
To increase the projection of the orbital rims you can get orbital implants.
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Combined Custom Brow Bone and Infraorbital Implants for Periorbital Augmentation for Prominent Eyes - Explore Plastic Surgery
Custom periorbital implants consist of superior brow bone implants and infraornital rim implants that come close or meet over the lateral orbital rims.exploreplasticsurgery.com
Also some osteotomies can augment the orbital rims:
LeFort 3 and Modified LeFort 3 advance the infraorbital and lateral orbital rims.
LeFort 3:
View attachment 460933
Modified LeFort 3:
View attachment 460935View attachment 460936
Quadrangular LeFort 2 advances the infraorbital rims
View attachment 460931
