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How is it looking now ?1 month update, as promised.
how old are you, mirin will do this in the futureI’m going to put minimal effort into this.
Before
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1 month after
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4 months after (today)
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(If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state)
I had suboptimal lighting is all photos but i cbf finding better, in down light I have MOGGER lateral canthus crease.
Ignore the dry skin I’m hyper sensitive to anti biotics and the gook surgeon made me take them for 3 days post op, which in turn nuked my skin but ah well.
These photos mainly address my eyes, but my lips are maybe 10% fuller, but very disappointing.
Chin was utterly useless lol.
Shoulders were also utterly useless.
If you get this done, go to Rattinan Clinic in Bangkok and get your ass OVERFILLED to the max. That’s my only regret, being too conservative.
I’m gonna attempt to tag all the guys who have sent me a DM about my results over the last few months, I’m considerably busy 24/7 (stay tuned) so I can’t really reply much.
Idk what the max tag is but I’ll do 10 at a time
First, the groypers
@Dyorotic
@androgenic
@Clavicular
@dragomaxxer
@NorwoodAscender
@Orc
@Zeta
@LiterallyNightwing
@RoundHouse
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Eyebrows have lowered more, just not all the way.How is it looking now ?
Nice. Good to hear.Eyebrows have lowered more, just not all the way.
did you get anything for your undereyeI got it done in Thailand I think I paid around 6k for fat graft+prp+nanofat and ptosis repair. The stitch was on my belly button. As bones dude said the recovery was pretty bad for me too, I looked very swollen in my face and eyebrows were very raised (you will look like shit the first couple of weeks, to the point where u don't want to go outside). I honestly think the ptosis repair did just as much as the fat grafting, as my UEE was horrible, it totally ruined my face.
I actually feel much more alert and not tired in my eyes as I used to always be, it really made a difference to my eye health. I don't think I have had a headache one time since the surgery, before I got it at least 1-2 times per week. I think fixing health issues should be nr1 priority when doing surgery.
On the train I noticed a lady stared at me, like really staring which almost never happened before. I honestly didn't know how to react and got a bit intimidated. She was gl but I still have anxiety and insecurity so I didn't approach her. I kind of regret not approaching, I need some kind of medicine to lower my inhibition and shyness
Weird how no one at my work commented about it, some just stared at me couple of seconds and didn't say anything haha. I don't know if its in my head or not but it feels like people treat me better.
Also I thought it looked weird with 0 UEE, now at least a small part of my upper eyelid is visible which I honestly prefer and is better for appeal. Also had mad swelling before esp around the temples and below eyebrows but now it looks more natural
How much did this cost to get? I heard they're raising their prices due to recent traffic but if it's still significantly cheaper to do there than in the US I might consider it. Also unsure how much I can convince a US surgeon to overfill as needed.Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op
Pre-op:
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2 days post-op:
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View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
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It's 69k THB, or 59k if they're doing a promo sale. PRP (which I did) is an additional 20k THB.How much did this cost to get? I heard they're raising their prices due to recent traffic but if it's still significantly cheaper to do there than in the US I might consider it. Also unsure how much I can convince a US surgeon to overfill as needed.
How is it looking now broski ? Has the fat remained ?Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op
Pre-op:
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2 days post-op:
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4 days post-op (now):
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A lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.How is it looking now broski ? Has the fat remained ?
I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
check out this thread want to hear your thoughts https://looksmax.org/threads/bpc-157-in-fat-grafting-survival.1938841/My exact experience
He already posted about this a year ago.check out this thread want to hear your thoughts https://looksmax.org/threads/bpc-157-in-fat-grafting-survival.1938841/
If you can get it, as soon as you can, start using BPC 157 and ideally GHK Cu too either subq in your belly (though it will feel weird and tender so I’d advise not to, instead…) or in your ventroglute area, just with an insulin needle.
If you do this, expect an additional 15% or so retention, you would only need to do it EOD for about 3 weeks to get this return.
If I compare to your pre op and if it’s not frauded, then to me you basically removed a failo you had. And a pretty big one. Also less UEE but really what’s important here are the infras.A lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
5 weeks post-op (the angle should be very similar to the pre-op pic I posted):
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As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE
And on that note, what’s the definitive answer for how long we have to wait before lifting again (not in caloric deficit)? No way it’s 6 fucking months
Mirin results one of the best fatgrafting results I've seen. I hope I'll get you're results after I get this done my under eyes are very similar to yours in your before picA lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
5 weeks post-op (the angle should be very similar to the pre-op pic I posted):
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As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE
And on that note, what’s the definitive answer for how long we have to wait before lifting again (not in caloric deficit)? No way it’s 6 fucking months
Is this negative hooding? Someone moreA lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
5 weeks post-op (the angle should be very similar to the pre-op pic I posted):
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As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE
And on that note, what’s the definitive answer for how long we have to wait before lifting again (not in caloric deficit)? No way it’s 6 fucking months
This mf is very optimistic for anything JFLHad a consultation with Dr. Taveechai yesterday, I had congenital eyebags since birth and got bleph to remove them a while back, pretty sure they removed far too much fat and now I have brutally hollow undereyes, discoloration, asymmetry and some drooping of the lower lids. Still unsure if infra implants are necessary in my case, but seems like implants are so hard to get right in the undereye region, so it would be awesome if I could achieve a MTN eye area without going that route. Here's me (worst possible angle and lighting, tried to make it look as bad as possible):
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Dr. Taveechai seemed very optimistic that fat grafting + canthopexy could give me satisfactory result and I decided to book it since it doesn't seem particularly high-risk. Still have consults scheduled with several surgeons who do implants, so maybe they will change my mind, talking to Ramieri tomorrow.
Late August realistically, have some events planned in April and May and don't want to spend the summer swollen at home. Planning to stay in Thailand for at least a month when I get it done, so should be able to evaluate if I need a top up at the monthly check up.This mf is very optimistic for anything JFL
You can ask him if he can graft some on your penis and he’ll say yes iam very optimistic sir
But yes you’re a good candidate you’ll likely need 2 sessions tho i think.
When do you plan on doing it ?
Nigga unironically said I could add 2” of girth jfl.You can ask him if he can graft some on your penis and he’ll say yes iam very optimistic sir
agreed - I think there’s a limit to how much fat we can retain per session.But yes you’re a good candidate you’ll likely need 2 sessions tho i think.
I didn't know what this was until today, but yes? If you mean like Maher for exampleIs this negative hooding? Someone more
Knowledgeable know? @yussimania
For ease of use, pre-op VS +5 weeks :A lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE
U niggas know that u can get the same results in pretty much any run-of-the-mill ps office in europe for the same price? Theres like 3 guys doing it in a 3-mile radius from my home
But can he do canthopexy too, and PRP and nano fat for like 3k5What does blackpilled even means in the context of ps? Is there any other reason to do plasic surgery procedure than aesthetic improvement? here, some non-descript serbian ps guy, price 1000e. Just tell him to overfill u 200% and mix it with prp. Its a simple outpatient procedure not a leforft 3.
i am trying to find a local surgeon to do it in canada but no luck so farU niggas know that u can get the same results in pretty much any run-of-the-mill ps office in europe for the same price? Theres like 3 guys doing it in a 3-mile radius from my home
okay so this is me being a little too autistic but likeI didn't know what this was until today, but yes? If you mean like Maher for example
I added plenty of fat right above the lateral canthus to make it more straight (I explicitly told them i want it to be a straight line) but alas a lot of it died. More pronounced than before ngl. Is that even a failo?
Yes, second guy is Maher lol. One of the main reasons why I'd do a 2nd procedure is to refill the medial canthus area (almost all of it died, RIP). But it's a VERY fine line between adding too little and too much once you get closer to the medial canthus itself rather than just the supraorbital.okay so this is me being a little too autistic but like
if you just get a little filler on the medial canthus hooding part to make the hooding straight vs negative it will do you very well
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look at o prys hooding its straight
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this guy has negative hooding
i think negative hooding makes the canthal tilt look negative too
do you have other tips? i am also going to get fat graftingYes, second guy is Maher lol. One of the main reasons why I'd do a 2nd procedure is to refill the medial canthus area (almost all of it died, RIP). It's a VERY fine line between adding too little and too much - you can see that in my 4 days post op pic that it can blur out "prominence" of actual eye "outline" and you'll lose contour/strikingness.
brutal, good result but not as promising as the first week. looks like you lost 60% of the fatA lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
5 weeks post-op (the angle should be very similar to the pre-op pic I posted):
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As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE
And on that note, what’s the definitive answer for how long we have to wait before lifting again (not in caloric deficit)? No way it’s 6 fucking months
This is still a good result, your before and after is better, it's worth 3K imoA lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want
fuck you look goodI’m going to put minimal effort into this.
Before
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1 month after
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4 months after (today)
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(If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state)
I had suboptimal lighting is all photos but i cbf finding better, in down light I have MOGGER lateral canthus crease.
Ignore the dry skin I’m hyper sensitive to anti biotics and the gook surgeon made me take them for 3 days post op, which in turn nuked my skin but ah well.
These photos mainly address my eyes, but my lips are maybe 10% fuller, but very disappointing.
Chin was utterly useless lol.
Shoulders were also utterly useless.
If you get this done, go to Rattinan Clinic in Bangkok and get your ass OVERFILLED to the max. That’s my only regret, being too conservative.
I’m gonna attempt to tag all the guys who have sent me a DM about my results over the last few months, I’m considerably busy 24/7 (stay tuned) so I can’t really reply much.
Idk what the max tag is but I’ll do 10 at a time
First, the groypers
@Dyorotic
@androgenic
@Clavicular
@dragomaxxer
@NorwoodAscender
@Orc
@Zeta
@LiterallyNightwing
@RoundHouse
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How do you know if you need ptôsis correction or if you can just inject fat to cover the UEE?In my case I think ptosis correction did just as much, if not more than the fat graft itself, as I had severe UEE. I think most people need more than just 1 procedure, I'm thinking of doing infraorbital implants or cantho/lower eyelid retraction but don't know if the ROI is there or not.
Wouldn't that techically mean you'd be out of commission from the gym for atleast 9 months? That's pretty insane...If I compare to your pre op and if it’s not frauded, then to me you basically removed a failo you had. And a pretty big one. Also less UEE but really what’s important here are the infras.
And did the zygos fat left first or was it gradual with all parts of the face ? Meaning maybe if you had done more on zygos it would’ve stayed like infras.
I think I’ll likely do 2 sessions 6 months apart. I have at least the same base with very hollow undereyes and tear through like you had.
Have you had any reaction from friends or family btw ?
Also I think 6months no gym is overblown
Doesn't grafting nasolabial cause a slighty higher chance of visual problems?How do you know if you need ptôsis correction or if you can just inject fat to cover the UEE?
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I’ll be getting graft infra and supra, canthopexy and also grafting on zygo arch and mentolabial and nasolabial
What? But your eyes are good now with the grafts. I don't understand.I will post everything once I’ve done it in that thread.
Don’t DM me just post in this thread whenever I login I’ll check this thread and that one.
Before / +1 month :
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Does it look to you like a fair and realistic comparison between the two ?
The before looks better imo.
Undereye looks better. Rest looks worse tbh. Looks bloated and eyebrows are higher.
I feel the same for me, after 3 weeks. Maybe I wasn't a good canditate, maybe it's just swelling... I think about using ice and exercising to try to kill itDo you think perhaps too much was injected on Supras?
And prolly you’ll lose some on Supras and eyesbrows will lower.
Now you look fat Idk if that’s on the doc or just you’re retaining the graft in a different way
Undereye looks better tho
That’s coming out your ass lmaoFat grafting is ideal for age related soft tissue shenanigans. If u want more projection and angles get implants. U shouldnt really consider fg unless u are a 40+ oldcel or a HIV patient with severe facial wasting
Can we see how it looks like ? Right now, pre op and like 5 days post op ?Still love the under eyes though. Best ROI. But if you have enough supraorbital fat to begin with, you might need to skip that part imo.
maybe just need to wait 3-4 months, there is still swelling, the fat will die or probably both
hows pre procedure look?
I edited now. Posted too early by mistake firsthows pre procedure look?
did you go to looksmax.orgs clinic in Bangkok? Your fat retained super well in the under eye area better than most which could be due to the glow stack which aligns with my thread https://looksmax.org/threads/bpc-157-in-fat-grafting-survival.1938841/I edited now. Posted too early by mistake first
Yeah I did. Thanks a lot bhai. Hard to get used to new look when you can't recognize yourself anymore. Hooding is still arched and not straight, eyebrows are higher, people tell me I look like an Asian now. Maybe still an improvement, I wanted it to be not so obvious after 3 weeks though.did you go to looksmax.orgs clinic in Bangkok? Your fat retained super well in the under eye area better than most which could be due to the glow stack which aligns with my thread https://looksmax.org/threads/bpc-157-in-fat-grafting-survival.1938841/
What are you upset about? Your results look really good, even though your eye area isn't ideal. You will need other procedures.
think you needed supra implants not upper eyelid fat grafts under eyes are good but if im not mistakej lower lid retraction is also neededYeah I did. Thanks a lot bhai. Hard to get used to new look when you can't recognize yourself anymore. Hooding is still arched and not straight, eyebrows are higher, people tell me I look like an Asian now. Maybe still an improvement, I wanted it to be not so obvious after 3 weeks though.
Was also considering frontalis botox to lower the eyebrows and maybe to get some hooding, now it wouldn't help much since the gap between eyebrow and eye are so full. Pushing frontalis/eyebrows down doesn't look that good anymore.
I swear I can see why youd think the Supra look it gave you is bad but I don’t know you so I can say objectively it looks way better now . Idgaf if it makes you look more Asian if it makes you look less subhuman.Right now:
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5 days post op:
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Chatgpt says I need to wait 6 weeks post op to video call loved ones, I can't really wait... Maybe shouldn't have overfilled much and go for second time after few years, would be easier for social circle. Took glow peptides and now taking bromelain + arnika cream. I became an Asian, afraid to wait months to it's not so obvious and "he looks slightly better" look. I still think it's mostly swelling and will go away