Female Gaze and Male Gaze - an explanation

[BucketCrab]

In nature, there are generally two types of ways in which animals choose their partners: Intrasexual Selection and Intersexual Selection.
Intrasexual Selection (literally: among one's sex) requires male specimens to fight for dominance. The stronger male defeats their opponent and thus gains
access to the females, and can propagate his genes. The females have no say in this process, they simply accept whoever is the winner.

Intersexual Selection (literally: between sexes) requires male specimens to put on a display for the females. This can be varied, from displaying colourful plumage, to having the biggest and prettiest tail, to performing a mating dance or even by building her a nest. The males show off their best features, and the females then decide who gets to reproduce and propagate their genes.

Now, let's have a look at humans. In order to illustrate the point, let's imagine these two guys fight. We'll call the first guy Indian and the secon guy Prettyboy.

Indian wins. He absolutely destroys Prettyboy and is the absolute winner of the "intrasexual" bout.
What would the average woman in her most fertile age range (18 to 30) do?
Would she immediately flock to the winner and strongly desire having sex with him, or would she nurse the loser in an attempt to catch his attention?

Now I already know what you're thinking. You may be tempted to say that this example is too radical, that it doesn't adequately represent reality. You may think that women absolutely value fighting capabilities in males, but they also want dimorphic traits such as height and muscles, and not just "a winner". You may also think that if you replaced Indian with someone like this:​

Then everything would change, and the aforementioned women would flock to this guy instead. We'll call him Manly Man.​

Now you have someone that isn't hideous-looking, but who also has height, muscles, dimorphism. And that trumps whatever appeal Prettyboy had.​

Sure, Prettyboy wins when compared to Indian, even if he loses the bout. But once he's up against someone that's not ugly as sin, Manly Man just wins every single time, and he wouldn't even need to physically beat Prettyboy: it would just be immediately clear to everyone that Manly Man would win every single time.​

And thus, this proves that humans are a species strongly correlated with INTRASEXUAL selection, but only as long as the males show sufficient dimorphism.​

Here is the issue with this line of reasoning: it isn't genuine, and it ignores too many aspects of what females really do in real life.

If humans truly were a species that employs INTRASEXUAL selection, physical dominance would be all that women are interested in. This would trump looks, money, and talent of any kind. It would be all about who wins fights, and nothing else - and this simply has no basis in reality.
INTERSEXUAL selection is centered around things that human females have been shown, time and time again, to value a lot higher than fighting success:

• Physical appearance (the peacock's feathers)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (mating dances)
• Ability to provide (nest building)

How many females are lusting after famous MMA fighters, and know every detail about them, religiously following everything they post and do?
How many females are fans of powerlifting, and have posters of Eddie Hall in their bedrooms they masturbate to?
I'll tell you how many: basically none. Now ask yourself these questions about beautiful actors and talented musicians.
Things change quite a lot then, right? It's not fighting power that makes a man attractive.

Do you think it's a coincidence that singers who are both good looking, famous and talented have always been pussy magnets?
They're so mind-blowingly popular because they literally hit all three requirements for INTERSEXUAL selection:

• Physical appearance (their beauty)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (their music)
• Ability to provide (their success, fame and status)

And here lies the crux of the issue: men think in terms of INTRASEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man who can defeat all other men. Strength and dominance over other men is the only thing that really matters ("mogging").


women think in terms of INTERSEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man that simply has more to offer than the other men in the realms of appearance, talent, and providing.

 

[schitzowarrior40]

Men look for best features for a male offspring
women look for best features for a female offspring
simple as
thats why cucks like muscular women and why feminine women like for prettyboys

 

[Orc]

women look for best features for a female offspring

women are bad at mate selection and are going to end up causing the entire population to be fat and depressed with lung cancer because they don't select for it.

 

[schitzowarrior40]

women are bad at mate selection and are going to end up causing the entire population to be fat and depressed with lung cancer because they don't select for it.

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im generalising, but the point is that producing a good female offspring is their goal. they obviously all can't get the prettyboy chad so they'll settle for anything in the top % nowadays. If the population is shit they'll still go for the top%

 

[Orc]

im generalising, but the point is that producing a good female offspring is their goal. they obviously all can't get the prettyboy chad so they'll settle for anything in the top % nowadays. If the population is shit they'll still go for the top%

women have only gotten progressively uglier with time, they also don't particularly select well for feminine features in that data pool, waist to hip and hip circumference is selected for about the same for men and women.

 

[Blond3cel]

women are bad at mate selection and are going to end up causing the entire population to be fat and depressed with lung cancer because they don't select for it.

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I think its just that ugly people are breeding way more than good looking one or do you think otherwise ?

 

[Blond3cel]

im generalising, but the point is that producing a good female offspring is their goal. they obviously all can't get the prettyboy chad so they'll settle for anything in the top % nowadays. If the population is shit they'll still go for the top%

Tinder is not IRL

 

[Deleted member 26859]

women look for best features for a female offspring

why do they look for male height then

 

[Orc]

I think its just that ugly people are breeding way more than good looking one or do you think otherwise ?

birth control doesn't function properly in fat women.

why do they look for male height then

because short women are as subhuman as short men.

 

[Deleted member 27472]

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[NegativeNorwood]

Extremely high IQ and perfectly written post.

A pleasure to read. Needless to say, I agree with everything.

 

[flippasav]

In nature, there are generally two types of ways in which animals choose their partners: Intrasexual Selection and Intersexual Selection.
Intrasexual Selection (literally: among one's sex) requires male specimens to fight for dominance. The stronger male defeats their opponent and thus gains
access to the females, and can propagate his genes. The females have no say in this process, they simply accept whoever is the winner.

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Intersexual Selection (literally: between sexes) requires male specimens to put on a display for the females. This can be varied, from displaying colourful plumage, to having the biggest and prettiest tail, to performing a mating dance or even by building her a nest. The males show off their best features, and the females then decide who gets to reproduce and propagate their genes.

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Now, let's have a look at humans. In order to illustrate the point, let's imagine these two guys fight. We'll call the first guy Indian and the secon guy Prettyboy.
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Indian wins. He absolutely destroys Prettyboy and is the absolute winner of the "intrasexual" bout.
What would the average woman in her most fertile age range (18 to 30) do?
Would she immediately flock to the winner and strongly desire having sex with him, or would she nurse the loser in an attempt to catch his attention?

Now I already know what you're thinking. You may be tempted to say that this example is too radical, that it doesn't adequately represent reality. You may think that women absolutely value fighting capabilities in males, but they also want dimorphic traits such as height and muscles, and not just "a winner". You may also think that if you replaced Indian with someone like this:​

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Then everything would change, and the aforementioned women would flock to this guy instead. We'll call him Manly Man.​

Now you have someone that isn't hideous-looking, but who also has height, muscles, dimorphism. And that trumps whatever appeal Prettyboy had.​

Sure, Prettyboy wins when compared to Indian, even if he loses the bout. But once he's up against someone that's not ugly as sin, Manly Man just wins every single time, and he wouldn't even need to physically beat Prettyboy: it would just be immediately clear to everyone that Manly Man would win every single time.​

And thus, this proves that humans are a species strongly correlated with INTRASEXUAL selection, but only as long as the males show sufficient dimorphism.​

Here is the issue with this line of reasoning: it isn't genuine, and it ignores too many aspects of what females really do in real life.

If humans truly were a species that employs INTRASEXUAL selection, physical dominance would be all that women are interested in. This would trump looks, money, and talent of any kind. It would be all about who wins fights, and nothing else - and this simply has no basis in reality.
INTERSEXUAL selection is centered around things that human females have been shown, time and time again, to value a lot higher than fighting success:

• Physical appearance (the peacock's feathers)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (mating dances)
• Ability to provide (nest building)

How many females are lusting after famous MMA fighters, and know every detail about them, religiously following everything they post and do?
How many females are fans of powerlifting, and have posters of Eddie Hall in their bedrooms they masturbate to?
I'll tell you how many: basically none. Now ask yourself these questions about beautiful actors and talented musicians.
Things change quite a lot then, right? It's not fighting power that makes a man attractive.

Do you think it's a coincidence that singers who are both good looking, famous and talented have always been pussy magnets?
They're so mind-blowingly popular because they literally hit all three requirements for INTERSEXUAL selection:

• Physical appearance (their beauty)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (their music)
• Ability to provide (their success, fame and status)

And here lies the crux of the issue: men think in terms of INTRASEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man who can defeat all other men. Strength and dominance over other men is the only thing that really matters ("mogging").
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women think in terms of INTERSEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man that simply has more to offer than the other men in the realms of appearance, talent, and providing.
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They want a sugar daddy

 

[Blond3cel]

birth control doesn't function properly in fat women.

Ok I didnt know that.

But I see a big factor here in germany we have something called "Kindergeld" -> "Child support" you get money from the goverment if you have children below the age of 18. And alot of NEETs here are literally breeding because of this reason.

 

[Orc]

Ok I didnt know that.

But I see a big factor here in germany we have something called "Kindergeld" -> "Child support" you get money from the goverment if you have children below the age of 18. And alot of NEETs here are literally breeding because of this reason.

they're probably trying to bring the average age down because german women, like the rest of the EU, are 30+ years old on average when they have their first child, which isn't particularly healthy for the child.

 

[schitzowarrior40]

why do they look for male height then

might sound like cope however if u aint physically imposing ur at a higher risk of getting raped by a subhuman and having subhuman kids

 

[Seth Walsh]

In nature, there are generally two types of ways in which animals choose their partners: Intrasexual Selection and Intersexual Selection.
Intrasexual Selection (literally: among one's sex) requires male specimens to fight for dominance. The stronger male defeats their opponent and thus gains
access to the females, and can propagate his genes. The females have no say in this process, they simply accept whoever is the winner.

View attachment 2265735View attachment 2265730
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Intersexual Selection (literally: between sexes) requires male specimens to put on a display for the females. This can be varied, from displaying colourful plumage, to having the biggest and prettiest tail, to performing a mating dance or even by building her a nest. The males show off their best features, and the females then decide who gets to reproduce and propagate their genes.

View attachment 2265734
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Now, let's have a look at humans. In order to illustrate the point, let's imagine these two guys fight. We'll call the first guy Indian and the secon guy Prettyboy.
View attachment 2265752
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Indian wins. He absolutely destroys Prettyboy and is the absolute winner of the "intrasexual" bout.
What would the average woman in her most fertile age range (18 to 30) do?
Would she immediately flock to the winner and strongly desire having sex with him, or would she nurse the loser in an attempt to catch his attention?

Now I already know what you're thinking. You may be tempted to say that this example is too radical, that it doesn't adequately represent reality. You may think that women absolutely value fighting capabilities in males, but they also want dimorphic traits such as height and muscles, and not just "a winner". You may also think that if you replaced Indian with someone like this:​

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Then everything would change, and the aforementioned women would flock to this guy instead. We'll call him Manly Man.​

Now you have someone that isn't hideous-looking, but who also has height, muscles, dimorphism. And that trumps whatever appeal Prettyboy had.​

Sure, Prettyboy wins when compared to Indian, even if he loses the bout. But once he's up against someone that's not ugly as sin, Manly Man just wins every single time, and he wouldn't even need to physically beat Prettyboy: it would just be immediately clear to everyone that Manly Man would win every single time.​

And thus, this proves that humans are a species strongly correlated with INTRASEXUAL selection, but only as long as the males show sufficient dimorphism.​

Here is the issue with this line of reasoning: it isn't genuine, and it ignores too many aspects of what females really do in real life.

If humans truly were a species that employs INTRASEXUAL selection, physical dominance would be all that women are interested in. This would trump looks, money, and talent of any kind. It would be all about who wins fights, and nothing else - and this simply has no basis in reality.
INTERSEXUAL selection is centered around things that human females have been shown, time and time again, to value a lot higher than fighting success:

• Physical appearance (the peacock's feathers)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (mating dances)
• Ability to provide (nest building)

How many females are lusting after famous MMA fighters, and know every detail about them, religiously following everything they post and do?
How many females are fans of powerlifting, and have posters of Eddie Hall in their bedrooms they masturbate to?
I'll tell you how many: basically none. Now ask yourself these questions about beautiful actors and talented musicians.
Things change quite a lot then, right? It's not fighting power that makes a man attractive.

Do you think it's a coincidence that singers who are both good looking, famous and talented have always been pussy magnets?
They're so mind-blowingly popular because they literally hit all three requirements for INTERSEXUAL selection:

• Physical appearance (their beauty)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (their music)
• Ability to provide (their success, fame and status)

And here lies the crux of the issue: men think in terms of INTRASEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man who can defeat all other men. Strength and dominance over other men is the only thing that really matters ("mogging").
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women think in terms of INTERSEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man that simply has more to offer than the other men in the realms of appearance, talent, and providing.
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Blew the lid off. Bravo

 

[reptiles]

I think its just that ugly people are breeding way more than good looking one or do you think otherwise ?

Fuck no ugly men become incels look at .is ugly women are breeding which is selecting for low iq subhuman face traits

 

[reptiles]

In nature, there are generally two types of ways in which animals choose their partners: Intrasexual Selection and Intersexual Selection.
Intrasexual Selection (literally: among one's sex) requires male specimens to fight for dominance. The stronger male defeats their opponent and thus gains
access to the females, and can propagate his genes. The females have no say in this process, they simply accept whoever is the winner.

View attachment 2265735View attachment 2265730
View attachment 2265732

Intersexual Selection (literally: between sexes) requires male specimens to put on a display for the females. This can be varied, from displaying colourful plumage, to having the biggest and prettiest tail, to performing a mating dance or even by building her a nest. The males show off their best features, and the females then decide who gets to reproduce and propagate their genes.

View attachment 2265734
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View attachment 2265731

Now, let's have a look at humans. In order to illustrate the point, let's imagine these two guys fight. We'll call the first guy Indian and the secon guy Prettyboy.
View attachment 2265752
View attachment 2265754
Indian wins. He absolutely destroys Prettyboy and is the absolute winner of the "intrasexual" bout.
What would the average woman in her most fertile age range (18 to 30) do?
Would she immediately flock to the winner and strongly desire having sex with him, or would she nurse the loser in an attempt to catch his attention?

Now I already know what you're thinking. You may be tempted to say that this example is too radical, that it doesn't adequately represent reality. You may think that women absolutely value fighting capabilities in males, but they also want dimorphic traits such as height and muscles, and not just "a winner". You may also think that if you replaced Indian with someone like this:​

View attachment 2265762

Then everything would change, and the aforementioned women would flock to this guy instead. We'll call him Manly Man.​

Now you have someone that isn't hideous-looking, but who also has height, muscles, dimorphism. And that trumps whatever appeal Prettyboy had.​

Sure, Prettyboy wins when compared to Indian, even if he loses the bout. But once he's up against someone that's not ugly as sin, Manly Man just wins every single time, and he wouldn't even need to physically beat Prettyboy: it would just be immediately clear to everyone that Manly Man would win every single time.​

And thus, this proves that humans are a species strongly correlated with INTRASEXUAL selection, but only as long as the males show sufficient dimorphism.​

Here is the issue with this line of reasoning: it isn't genuine, and it ignores too many aspects of what females really do in real life.

If humans truly were a species that employs INTRASEXUAL selection, physical dominance would be all that women are interested in. This would trump looks, money, and talent of any kind. It would be all about who wins fights, and nothing else - and this simply has no basis in reality.
INTERSEXUAL selection is centered around things that human females have been shown, time and time again, to value a lot higher than fighting success:

• Physical appearance (the peacock's feathers)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (mating dances)
• Ability to provide (nest building)

How many females are lusting after famous MMA fighters, and know every detail about them, religiously following everything they post and do?
How many females are fans of powerlifting, and have posters of Eddie Hall in their bedrooms they masturbate to?
I'll tell you how many: basically none. Now ask yourself these questions about beautiful actors and talented musicians.
Things change quite a lot then, right? It's not fighting power that makes a man attractive.

Do you think it's a coincidence that singers who are both good looking, famous and talented have always been pussy magnets?
They're so mind-blowingly popular because they literally hit all three requirements for INTERSEXUAL selection:

• Physical appearance (their beauty)
• Artistic/Musical/Dancing skills (their music)
• Ability to provide (their success, fame and status)

And here lies the crux of the issue: men think in terms of INTRASEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man who can defeat all other men. Strength and dominance over other men is the only thing that really matters ("mogging").
View attachment 2265762

women think in terms of INTERSEXUAL selection.
Thus, the BEST man is the man that simply has more to offer than the other men in the realms of appearance, talent, and providing.
View attachment 2265754

Just take a long shower gain a lot of confidence respect women pray to Allah and you will slay hard bro

 

[forevermirin]

And thus, this proves

?? what proves what here jfl. you just made a claim that manly man would get the girl over prettyboy when indian wouldn't. you didn't prove shit?

Sure, Prettyboy wins when compared to Indian, even if he loses the bout. But once he's up against someone that's not ugly as sin, Manly Man just wins every single time

source? lol

 

[forevermirin]

Here is the issue with this line of reasoning: it isn't genuine, and it ignores too many aspects of what females really do in real life.

okay i guess i replied too soon

 

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[Max Frauder]

that timothee fuck is an ugly subhuman. Shit example.