Finns and Hungarians are white

[Olivecel]

So what happend to the huns then

Not sure. Their name is Bulgar but their dna doesn’t match in any way. Nor does their language.
Doesn’t make sense to me either, but it’s true.
Bulgarians are genetically similar to mainland Greeks and other neighboring Balkan Slavs.

 

[FlotPSL]

Not sure. Their name is Bulgar but their dna doesn’t match in any way. Nor does their language.
Doesn’t make sense to me either, but it’s true.
Bulgarians are genetically similar to mainland Greeks and other neighboring Balkan Slavs.

Yeah because they got bleached
Anyway im Serb so idc

 

[Olivecel]

how are greeks and albanians not white

Are you kidding?
Jfl nobody thinks of Albanians as white other than themselves. There’s no question. Greeks are considered white but they’re technically not genetically or phenotypically white either.

 

[FlotPSL]

Greeks are considered white but they’re technically not genetically or phenotypically white either.

Genetically?
How not genetically

 

[FlotPSL]

Jfl nobody thinks of Albanians as white other than themselves

@VV62 This is true

 

[Olivecel]

Genetically?
How not genetically

Their genetic distance is too close to West Asian samples.
a Greek is genetically closer to a Lebanese person than they are to most Europeans:

 

[FlotPSL]

Their genetic distance is too close to West Asians samples.
a Greek is genetically closer to a Lebanese person than they are to most Europeans:
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Yes but the Lebanese mixed with the whites
Greeks were white from beggining

 

[Olivecel]

Yes but the Lebanese mixed with the whites
Greeks were white from beggining

Yeah and Greeks are mixed with Middle Eastern dna, that’s why they drift away from the rest of Europe apparently.
Lebanese have white admix and Greeks have middle eastern admix. That’s how they meet in the middle.
Jews are the same, they plot directly alongside Greek and southern Italian samples.

 

[FlotPSL]

Yeah and Greeks are mixed with Middle Eastern dna, that’s why they drift away from the rest of Europe apparently.
Lebanese have white admix and Greeks have middle eastern admix. That’s how they meet in the middle.
Jews are the same, they plot directly alongside Greek and southern Italian samples.

How do greeks have middle east dna where did they get it from

 

[Olivecel]

How do greeks have middle east dna where did they get it from

It’s natural. They’re dna is from the Aegean region so there’s been influxes of Anatolian and Levantine migrations patterns since the Bronze Age. Plus the Greco-Turk population exchange. Anatolian Greeks are extremely mixed.

 

[FlotPSL]

Anatolian Greeks are extremely mixed.

So mainland greeks have arab dna ur saying

 

[VV62]

@VV62 This is true

A decent amount of Albanians view themselves as a different race from Germanics or Anglos I don't consider myself white either, even though I am a cumskin and have green eyes, it doesn't change the fact that we are genetically European though

 

[Olivecel]

So mainland greeks have arab dna ur saying

Not Arab directly but they naturally share similar common ancestors.
Specifically with Levantine Arabs.
In other words, Greeks were never white jfl.

 

[FlotPSL]

green eyes

Green you mean hazel?

 

[FlotPSL]

it doesn't change the fact that we are genetically European though

@Olivecel he says albanians are European

 

[FlotPSL]

Not Arab directly but they naturally share similar common ancestors.
Specifically with Levantine Arabs.
In other words, Greeks were never white jfl.

Nah but neolithic farmers were white

 

[Olivecel]

@Olivecel he says albanians are European

Of course Albanians, Greeks and even most Turks will try to say they’re white.
But they’re not.

 

[FlotPSL]

Of course Albanians, Greeks and even most Turks will try to say they’re white.
But they’re not.

I refuse to believe we Serbs procreated with non whites bruh
Prove to me they arent white using other things other than similarity between arabs

 

[Olivecel]

Nah but neolithic farmers were white

That’s arguable . But honestly it’s more than ‘Neolithic Farmer’ ancestry. Like I said, Greek lands have been receiving influxes of Anatolian and Levantine migrations since the Bronze Age -> the modern period. The Bronze Age started way after the Neolithic period, the the dna evolved differently in that region by then.

 

[Olivecel]

I refuse to believe we Serbs procreated with non whites bruh
Prove to me they arent white using other things other than similarity between arabs

Serbians are white bruh I’m not talking about your people. I’m saying Greeks and Albanians.
How is it fucking believable to say Bulgarians aren’t white but Greeks are? Are you fucking high?

 

[VV62]

Green you mean hazel?

No green

@Olivecel he says albanians are European

Inb4 you make a retarded argument about how albanians came from caucasia

 

[FlotPSL]

That’s arguable

If its arguable than all europeans are not white

 

[FlotPSL]

No green

No way its green nigga get real you arent irish

 

[FlotPSL]

Inb4 you make a retarded argument about how albanians came from caucasia

It doesnt matter where they are from if they arent white

 

[FlotPSL]

Serbians are white bruh I’m not talking about your people. I’m saying Greeks and Albanians.
How is it fucking believable to say Bulgarians aren’t white but Greeks are? Are you fucking high?

Sad shit tbh

 

[VV62]

It doesnt matter where they are from if they arent white

Still european

 

[FlotPSL]

Still european

But not white...

 

[VV62]

But not white...

Well yes we don't watch cuckold porn

 

[FlotPSL]

Well yes we don't watch cuckold porn

Thats true i suppose

 

[Olivecel]

If its arguable than all europeans are not white

I’ve seen this argument millions of times tbh. I studied this subject throughly.
ANF ancestry itself is not monolithic. ANF dna varied by region, time period and migration patterns.
The majority of Europe received the earliest waves of ANF migrations, heavily mixing with Hunter-Gatherers, creating what we know of as ‘Early European Farmers’ (EEF). Greece in specific continued to receive more diverse migrations of ANF that evolved throughout different time periods, this is due to how close Greece is to Anatolia, and nearly whiping out all WHG’s.
Greek ANF is different than European EEF.

 

[Olivecel]

If its arguable than all europeans are not white

Plus Greeks have Natufian, Iranian Neolithic and Caucasus ancestries as well:

 

[Olivecel]

But not white...

If Albanians and Bulgarians aren’t white then neither are Greeks logically.

 

[FlotPSL]

I’ve seen this argument millions of times tbh. I studied this subject throughly.
ANF ancestry itself is not monolithic. ANF dna varied by region, time period and migration patterns.
The majority of Europe received the earliest waves of ANF migrations, heavily mixing with Hunter-Gatherers, creating what we know of as ‘Early European Farmers’ (EEF). Greece in specific continued to receive more diverse migrations of ANF that evolved throughout different time periods, this is due to how close Greece is to Anatolia, and nearly whiping out all WHG’s.
Greek ANF is different than European EEF.

oh so we europeans are still pure

 

[Olivecel]

oh so we europeans are still pure

Yeah but not Greeks or Sicilians. Nor Albanians.

 

[FlotPSL]

Yeah but not Greeks or Sicilians. Nor Albanians.

are north italians pure?
what about spaniards

 

[Olivecel]

are north italians pure?
what about spaniards

Northern Italians are pretty white, so yeah.
Spanish I have no idea.
They claim they “removed all Moors” but still some of their dna could linger if some of them have been converted during that time period.

 

[FlotPSL]

Northern Italians are pretty white, so yeah.
Spanish I have no idea.
They claim they “removed all Moors” but still some of their dna could linger if some of them have been converted during that time period.

40% chat gpt said

 

[Olivecel]

40% chat gpt said

40% what?

 

[FlotPSL]

40% what?

moor dna

 

[Olivecel]

moor dna

I didn’t think it was that high wow.
Spanish dna samples plot closer to Western Europe so I assumed they removed enough.

 

[FlotPSL]

I didn’t think it was that high wow.
Spanish dna samples plot closer to Western Europe so I assumed they removed enough.

Nah most spaniards i saw on the internet looked like arabs

 

[Olivecel]

Nah most spaniards i saw on the internet looked like arabs

Then why were you saying that southern euros were white earlier

 

[Gengar]

Idk why but my brain misread the title as “Finns and Hungarians aren’t white,” which is preposterous to claim. In regard to Hungarians, in their autosomal results they score like their neighbors do, so how can they not be considered European/white? People are probably just confused because of the Hungarian elites who came from the East Eurasian steppes, but elites =/= common folks. If Hungarians can’t be considered European, then neither can their neighbors. Some may have East Eurasian maternal haplogroups, but your haplogroups are like 1% of your DNA, so to claim they can’t be European on basis of their haplogroup alone makes no sense. May as well say that Indians are Eastern European since most carry R1a which is a haplogroup that was spread from the Eastern European steppes, which obviously doesn’t make sense. Autosomally they will score like South Asians do, and not like their paternal ancestors.

 

[Gengar]

I didn’t think it was that high wow.
Spanish dna samples plot closer to Western Europe so I assumed they removed enough.

Europeans in general will cluster with each other because Europeans are the least genetically diverse. However Saamis will plot closer to Central Asians than they would do other Europeans.

 

[FlotPSL]

Then why were you saying that southern euros were white earlier

Nvm

 

[flippasav]

Even Italians are whiter because they are mostly European and have almost 100% Caucasian DNA but Finns have part Mongoloid

 

[FlotPSL]

Even Italians are whiter because they are mostly European and have almost 100% Caucasian DNA but Finns have part Mongoloid

Nah italians are browner

 

[Olivecel]

Even Italians are whiter because they are mostly European and have almost 100% Caucasian DNA but Finns have part Mongoloid

It depends who you compare really it’s not that simple.
Northern Italians are whiter than Sami, sure.
But southern Italians are way less white than a standard Finn (non-Sami).

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Bulgars weren’t white. Modern Bulgarians are.
It’s the same case for Hungarians.

-3 iq

 

[Olivecel]

-3 iq

spend your time looking at their dna results instead of expressing your dumbass opinion without knowing the facts.