Frame is absolute COPE in 2025. Many girls now would prefer narrow twinks. GTFIH!

[TalesFromTheSlums]

Muh gym has been obsolete for years, yet dudes won't get with the times.

Average bitch aged 16-25 now will easily & hornily fuck a narrow twink.

Being "wide" or having a refrigerator, autist-tier bideltoid won't help you.

Being harmonious, pretty, nice face & tall will obliterate muh width any day...

If you're not even near 6', no girl under 25 gives a fuck how wide you are.

Maybe if you have some niche or appeal to women over 30, yeah, maybe...

Even then many women still don't really care if you're 20 inches or 23+ inches.

They care about your face, frame & height ... And width is negligible usually.

They'll prefer BIG COCK with small shoulders over the inverse any day...

They'll prefer TALL HEIGHT with no width over manlet with mega shoulders...

They'll prefer NT norman dude or cool drug dealer over autist & wide...

They'll basically prefer ALMOST ANYTHING rather than just a wide autist.

 

[Whatever]

I like your threads. I’m a giga framelet and maybe, by some indications zoomer girls like me more than most millennial girls did in their prime, too bad they’re unbelievably flaky and impossible to make plans with though.

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

I like your threads. I’m a giga framelet and maybe, by some indications zoomer girls like me more than most millennial girls did in their prime, too bad they’re unbelievably flaky and impossible to make plans with though.

All projections of male standards are projected mostly by men -- that is, most standards of "ideal man" is MALE DRIVEN.

The idea that men need to be muscular, hulking giants is a MALE GAZE projection -- an idea mostly men project unto us.

You'll find out quickly in reality that "male gaze" is autistic -- and that the things YOU THINK matter a lot often really don't.

Bideltoid, massive roider/bodybuilder bodies, vertically huge chins, big brow ridge, etc. are indeed all male gaze projections 100%.

If any dude works in achieving these things, he's likely autistic, fell for the memes, false projections, or is mentally ill -- or all of the above.

The only real part of the male gaze which is true often in standards of most girls is the TALL part -- but frame, muscle not so much.

 

[Whatever]

All projections of male standards are projected mostly by men -- that is, most standards of "ideal man" is MALE DRIVEN.

The idea that men need to be muscular, hulking giants is a MALE GAZE projection -- an idea mostly men project unto us.

You'll find out quickly in reality that "male gaze" is autistic -- and that the things YOU THINK matter a lot often really don't.

Bideltoid, massive roider/bodybuilder bodies, vertically huge chins, big brow ridge, etc. are indeed all male gaze projections 100%.

If any dude works in achieving these things, he's likely autistic, fell for the memes, false projections, or is mentally ill -- or all of the above.

The only real part of the male gaze which is true often in standards of most girls is the TALL part -- but frame, muscle not so much.

I think frame and muscles can be female gaze but it’s mostly for lower class females who tend to have a jacked up masculinity requirement, being a lanklet is weird in that it’s a death sentence for a lot of less attractive girls but upper and middle class, thin, HTB+ have much less of a problem with it. I only ever get IOIs and stares from thin white girls, of varying face levels. Having a good or at least good enough face just reinforces this, it can be difficult to play in a higher league.

 

[Comebackkid]

Yes gym is autism, NT is more important

 

[GreekGenes]

such a logical fallacy

yes, gymmax will not make a sub5 attractive.

and yes, if you have a 9/10 face and are 6'3 you're not gonna need to gymmaxx.

but if you have an OK face, being an underweight framelet will always be a looksmin

even an above average face is always complemented by a strong looking body

 

[Deleted member 104506]

Framelet cope

 

[ImBelowAverage]

dude its not cope, thing is body doesn't have an ugly face
and good/bad genetics mostly come in a package

 

[butterworld]

Framelet propaganda

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

Framelet propaganda

dude its not cope, thing is body doesn't have an ugly face
and good/bad genetics mostly come in a package

Framelet cope

Massive shoulders/bideltoid/width is MALE GAZE. Proof with comics inside.

I dunno where PSL got the idea that broad shoulders are "female gaze." Most comic creators, artists, writers, etc. are MALE from especially before the 2000s. Here are some examples of male heroes/characters MEN DREW & MEN IMAGINED: Notice one thing these MALE DRAWN, CHARACTER, INSPIRED &...

looksmax.org

 

[Lebgfinal]

Id assure you my frame is awful for any woman and makes me incel, your thread is cope

 

[Deleted member 104506]

Massive shoulders/bideltoid/width is MALE GAZE. Proof with comics inside.

I dunno where PSL got the idea that broad shoulders are "female gaze." Most comic creators, artists, writers, etc. are MALE from especially before the 2000s. Here are some examples of male heroes/characters MEN DREW & MEN IMAGINED: Notice one thing these MALE DRAWN, CHARACTER, INSPIRED &...

looksmax.org

t.

 

[Lebgfinal]

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Id assure you my frame is awful for any woman and makes me incel, your thread is cope

@TalesFromTheSlums

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

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Id assure you my frame is awful for any woman and makes me incel, your thread is cope

That's fucking disgusting & you're an extreme genetic trash exception.

Don't post that deformed pic in my threads, man.

Fucking disgusting cretin.

Go post that shit on some humiliation subreddit, not here. WTF.

 

[Lebgfinal]

That's fucking disgusting & you're an extreme genetic trash exception.

Don't post that deformed pic in my threads, man.

Fucking disgusting cretin.

Go post that shit on some humiliation subreddit, not here. WTF.

Ok thanks man, what a great answer, i feel great now

 

[Eblan]

They care about your face, frame & height ... And width is negligible usually.

Are you retarded? Title "Frame is absolute cope" and then says this shit

 

[whitesubhuman]

so basically frame is cope but only for shortcels got it

 

[Bugmaxxed]

will foids like me if i bulk to 400lb instead?

 

[Pento]

All projections of male standards are projected mostly by men -- that is, most standards of "ideal man" is MALE DRIVEN.

The idea that men need to be muscular, hulking giants is a MALE GAZE projection -- an idea mostly men project unto us.

You'll find out quickly in reality that "male gaze" is autistic -- and that the things YOU THINK matter a lot often really don't.

Bideltoid, massive roider/bodybuilder bodies, vertically huge chins, big brow ridge, etc. are indeed all male gaze projections 100%.

If any dude works in achieving these things, he's likely autistic, fell for the memes, false projections, or is mentally ill -- or all of the above.

The only real part of the male gaze which is true often in standards of most girls is the TALL part -- but frame, muscle not so much.

Absolute cope what the actual fuck are you talking about. Ofc face matters more but being tall with a wide frame can easily compensate for having a twinkish look. Wide shoulders are absolute law in male/female dominance, women literally orgasm harder to men with wider frames.

Ofc if you already very attractive facially your body likely doesn't matter much, but for the majority of men it matters.

 

[160cmcurry]

 

[DaddyLongLegs]

Average bitch aged 16-25 now will easily & hornily fuck a narrow twink.

Being "wide" or having a refrigerator, autist-tier bideltoid won't help you.

Being harmonious, pretty, nice face & tall will obliterate muh width any day...

If you're not even near 6', no girl under 25 gives a fuck how wide you are.

i disagree that gym is obsolete for attraction but I do think it should be consider a given rather than actually looksmaxxing advice. We don’t call using hair conditioner & brushing/flossing teeth “looksmaxxing ” because we infer you were doing that at baseline because it’s basic self care. The physique you actually have to obtain to be attractive enough to women is not that far off of what you would of naturally achieved from regular training to take care of yourself.

100% agree that wide frame usually doesnt help teen/twenty/early thirty dudes — which is ideal time to be dating and that’s obvious to anyone who isn’t an idiot or finewine-coper.

Wide Frame can help a relatively tall Chadlite get over of a lanky relatively tall HTN/chadlite

 

[DaddyLongLegs]

The only real part of the male gaze which is true often in standards of most girls is the TALL part -- but frame, muscle not so much.

i think autistic male gaze STILL interferes with a lot of their abilities to figure out what the average chick prefers in terms of height.

It seems that in America
Short chicks visually prefer 5’11”-6’2” (180-188) the most
Standard chicks visually prefer 6’0”-6’4” (183-193cm) the most
Tall Chicks visually prefer 6’1”-6’5” (185cm-186cm) the most


I have seen way too many weirdos saying a true 6’2” (barefoot, noon/afternoon at earliest, properly measured) isn’t tall enough anymore even though Gen Z statistically isn’t any taller than the previous Gen. They think 6’5”-6’8” are the truly most desirable range for chicks collectively lmao. That’s absolutely male gaze autism. I suspect they are projecting their fantasies about Mogging & Intimidating every man they come across onto women’s fantasies about a sexual partner.

 

[Klasik616]

You need a good frame if your head is big