FUCK COLD APPROACHING!

[Deleted member 25223]

I've gotten about 10 leads from cold approaching in clubs and some daygame and ONLY GOT ONE OF THEM ON A DATE.

WTF!!!!

I've still gained skills on how to talk to women and yada yada.... but that is such a shallow rate of return for my time and money it's still better than the rate of return of online dating even though 1/5~ of girls give me dirty looks and quite blunt rejections and don't even give me a chance to speak.

THEY HAVE TOO MANY OPTIONS!

I fucking expect a girl to ghost me now

My game is still beginner but it's so much effort and for what?

These pua experts say RUN HIGH VOLUME DO 10 approach a week to just end up going on one date in a month?

This is brutal, I can't stand this I'm going to start catfishing women.

 

[Graham]

I thought PUA and "daygame" was abandoned in the early 2000s.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

I thought PUA and "daygame" was abandoned in the early 2000s.

Better than getting 0 on tinder, its a bit different now its alot less gamey

 

[Deleted member 25223]

I thought PUA and "daygame" was abandoned in the early 2000s.

I'm going to to get professional anglemaxxed photos and borderline catfish women like this:

 

[vinn98]

You need to gauge their interest level from the first moment of conversation. If they're not extremely excited and happy to talk to you it's going nowhere.

 

[Graham]

I'm going to to get professional anglemaxxed photos and borderline catfish women like this:

Good luck

 

[vinn98]

I've gotten about 10 leads from cold approaching in clubs and some daygame and ONLY GOT ONE OF THEM ON A DATE.

How many times did you go out for those 10?

 

[thereallegend]

if ur in the west it's best to settle down with a fat and ugly wife. just live a simple life. @Makhachev

 

[Deleted member 25223]

You need to gauge their interest level from the first moment of conversation. If they're not extremely excited and happy to talk to you it's going nowhere.

Ye, I learnt that only recently, I used ask girls that had 0 intrest my number, now I only do that to girls after I build some attraction, so guess most of those leads were dud from the start

 

[Deleted member 25223]

How many times did you go out for those 10?

6 month, approach anxiety is a killer but I've ramped up my volume slightly, I only approach an average of 1 or 0 girls a night but on some nights i've done 3 or 4 I didn't go out that often and the clubs dont even have that many girls in my age range usually

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Better than getting 0 on tinder, its a bit different now its alot less gamey

Cold approach during daytime is retarded.

You need to approach in bars, clubs, house parties, and other areas where it's seen as socially acceptable. The girls are also drunk and loosened up so they are lower inhib and more willing to fuck randoms.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Cold approach during daytime is retarded.

You need to approach in bars, clubs, house parties, and other areas where it's seen as socially acceptable. The girls are also drunk and loosened up so they are lower inhib and more willing to fuck randoms.

Cope, you have to approach them in the metro at 8am on Monday morning

 

[Deleted member 24940]

6 month, approach anxiety is a killer but I've ramped up my volume slightly, I only approach an average of 1 or 0 girls a night but on some nights i've done 3 or 4 I didn't go out that often and the clubs dont even have that many girls in my age range usually

Your supposed to pull them the same night you meet at a club. If you just get the number then leave of course they'll reject you lol.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Your supposed to pull them the same night you meet at a club. If you just get the number then leave of course they'll reject you lol.

I can't pull like crazy, I have to say we should go watch netflix at her place because my "house is being renovated", I live with family : (

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Cope, you have to approach them in the metro at 8am on Monday morning

Chad only can get away with this. Also 99% of girls flake since your just a random guy in their phone that they have no connection too.

Getting numbers is useless if they don't know you.

 

[Amexmaxx]

The whoremaxxing gospel shall spread.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Chad only can get away with this. Also 99% of girls flake since your just a random guy in their phone that they have no connection too.

Getting numbers is useless if they don't know you.

It was ironic. The approach techniques you mentioned are obviously the water solution, except possibly meeting a girl in a social group of friends

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Chad only can get away with this. Also 99% of girls flake since your just a random guy in their phone that they have no connection too.

Getting numbers is useless if they don't know you.

That's why I'm trying to have a really solid interaction with girl so there's investment, but even a little pproach anxiety or shyness gets in the way

 

[Deleted member 24789]

@Zetoch height + body ? (Gymmaxxed ? Skiny?)

 

[Deleted member 24940]

That's why I'm trying to have a really solid interaction with girl so there's investment, but even a little pproach anxiety or shyness gets in the way

You'd have better ROI trying to get a social circle or if your in college joining clubs with women, or taking classes with women around.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

@Zetoch height + body ? (Gymmaxxed ? Skiny?)

MTN
6'0.5 morning height
165 lbs (quite slim, cutting for face gains)

can't imagine approaching while not being above average looking, but I'm no HTN

 

[Deleted member 25223]

You'd have better ROI trying to get a social circle or if your in college joining clubs with women, or taking classes with women around.

you're absouletely right, I'm gonna join meetup groups

 

[grimy]

Social circle mogs hard. Just go out with friends or coworkers and meet their friends. 90% of numbers you're gonna get in clubs are just drunk whores who will forget who you are next day.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

if ur in the west it's best to settle down with a fat and ugly wife. just live a simple life. @Makhachev

It was ironic. The approach techniques you mentioned are obviously the water solution, except possibly meeting a girl in a social group of friends

Chad only can get away with this. Also 99% of girls flake since your just a random guy in their phone that they have no connection too.

Getting numbers is useless if they don't know you.

I've gotten very obvious IOI's from quite overweight LTB's, but bro I'm never going to stoop that low in Clubs and in daytime, I've even talked to them but they can just fuck off, MTB+ only

 

[Deleted member 24940]

you're absouletely right, I'm gonna join meetup groups

You just have to be around women, have decent social skills, don't be desperate and you naturally get women (barring insane manlet height or subhuman recessed face).

OLD is Chad only though. Even MTBs can get chads using OLD.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

I've gotten very obvious IOI's from quite overweight LTB's, but bro I'm never going to stoop that low in Clubs and in daytime, I've even talked to them but they can just fuck off, MTB+ only

Gymmaxxing and try to see something for your face, to pass htn if you can . MTB+ are reserved for those who are maxxed in something and NT

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Cold approach during daytime is retarded.

You need to approach in bars, clubs, house parties, and other areas where it's seen as socially acceptable. The girls are also drunk and loosened up so they are lower inhib and more willing to fuck randoms.

Woman get SPAM approached in clubs, she won't remember you if you don't stick around for around 15 minutes plus and most of them won't tolerate for that long unless your game is spectacular

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Social circle mogs hard. Just go out with friends or coworkers and meet their friends. 90% of numbers you're gonna get in clubs are just drunk whores who will forget who you are next day.

This. Every below average guy I knew with a decent looking gf met through work, school, social circle, etc.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

You just have to be around women, have decent social skills, don't be desperate and you naturally get women (barring insane manlet height or subhuman recessed face).

True tbh

OLD is Chad only though. Even MTBs can get chads using OLD.

No lol, gymmaxxed body and htn does the coffee, even being mtn does the coffee with a muscular body. Watch Tinder experiments

 

[Lawton88]

I'm going to to get professional anglemaxxed photos and borderline catfish women like this:

Yep if Wheat Waffles showed up to meet the girl she would consider that catfishing when she saw him.

 

[Deleted member 23218]

The whoremaxxing gospel shall spread.

Jfl at getting rejected 1000 times to fuck a chubby ltb

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Yep if Wheat Waffles showed up to meet the girl she would consider that catfishing when she saw him.

To be honest, so many of the top 5% or 10% tinder profiles that are succesful are just frauded MTN's because HTN's are so rare

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Yep if Wheat Waffles showed up to meet the girl she would consider that catfishing when she saw him.

that's the problem when you're normie, you have to do frauded NT pics. To avoid this you have to become more beautiful and jacked lol

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Yep if Wheat Waffles showed up to meet the girl she would consider that catfishing when she saw him.

Don't women fraud pics too though? Can they really call him out when they faceapp all their pics and makeup fraud?

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Don't women fraud pics too though? Can they really call him out when they faceapp all their pics and makeup fraud?

appertly he closed 60% of dates using this brutal catfish

 

[Deleted member 24940]

appertly he closed 60% of dates using this brutal catfish

Brutal. Imagine matching with Chad and getting some balding LTN show up to the date.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

Brutal. Imagine matching with Chad and getting some balding LTN show up to the date.

I would not care, the system is stacked against me so I will cheat, and still close, becuase im sure his game makes up for alot of it

 

[Deleted member 24940]

I would not care, the system is stacked against me so I will cheat, and still close, becuase im sure his game makes up for alot of it

Yeah it could be worth it considering he somehow slayed 60% of the girls, and the bald curry slayed 80% of the girls he frauded with.

I think women give more lax judgement since all of them fraud their pics.

 

[Lawton88]

Don't women fraud pics too though? Can they really call him out when they faceapp all their pics and makeup fraud?

They see it different for guys. Double standards as usual.They will literally give a look of disgust if a MTN shows up and the pictures suggested a HTN.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

They see it different for guys. Double standards as usual.They will literally give a look of disgust if a MTN shows up and the pictures suggested a HTN.

Over for me then.

 

[Amexmaxx]

Jfl at getting rejected 1000 times to fuck a chubby ltb

Exactly. So men should simply start paying to fuck stacys.

 

[eduardkoopman]

@Zetoch we need more context.

For anyone to give any good advice to you on this:
1. What is your looks level? (Face, overall looks smv, height, etnnicity and ethnicity women you chat up?).
2. Age range?
3. Your location is big city, or small town? In what type of country/location?

 

[eduardkoopman]

As someone with probably between 500 - 1000 chatups done in my past.

My game is still beginner

game matters some, but not that much. Don't fall into the pua experts trap, that most all spew the believe that game matters most. Because game matters limited. It matters some though, ngl.
But it's not and never will be, the game changer factor.

but it's so much effort and for what?

Chatting up randoms, where the effort to result ratio makes some sense.
Has factors that need to be in place, imo.
Them being.
1. Your looks level is high enough.
2. The location has enough traffic/business.
3. You don't take to much time Chatting up randoms due to nervousness letting 95% of opportunities pass by. Otherwise it takes to much time.
4. Enough single women your age range.
5. Country, culture, is okay with doing thus.
6. You have a decent level of communication skill.

These pua experts say RUN HIGH VOLUME DO 10 approach a week to just end up going on one date in a month?
.

Some real statts. Matched with dudes their looks level.

PUA Cold Approaching Is Fundamentally Flawed

I see absolutely nothing wrong with chatting up girls IRL, whether you call it ‘daygame’ or don’t put a label on it. It takes balls & social fluency that practically no one on here has so it’s no surprise people here shit on the idea True that. Dependant on location also. I like to add, though...

looksmax.org

I only approach an average of 1 or 0 girls a night but on some nights i've done 3 or 4 I didn't go out that often and the clubs dont even have that many girls in my age range usually

1 per night. Is to little amount, for it to make sense time wise.
Assuming you don't enjoy going out, and only there for the chicks.

Ideally. One can combine going somewhere where one wants, enjoys, need to be. And in that mean time, talking with women there also.

I recall last year on holiday, I tried again to chat up randoms to see what happens. During daytime touristic, I chatted up like 15 women in 2 days time. And that was me still being to passive.
I got 1 really strong leaf out of 1. Whom I met up with 3 times during my holiday trip.
I also downloaded tinder on holiday. Managed to arrange zero meetups, although having some matches and chatts.

Cold approach during daytime is retarded.

You need to approach in bars, clubs, house parties,

Tbh. Cope. Daytime can work decent also. All depends on a dude his looks level.

imo, daytime is not a bad thing to add, I'd one looks good enough. Because it costs no, so little time. Assuming one doesn't go outside in the daytime just to do this. You are waiting at that metro stop anyways. You are walking on that street anyways. You are looking in that shop anyways. You are having a snack at thatvfood place anyways. It takes like only 5 minutes, to do a random chatup in the daytime.
Whereas going out to to parties, one hates. Cost hours, money, sleep, and so on....

Random chatups in daily life can imo, be a nice added supplement feed/stream of new women.

Social circle mogs hard. Just go out with friends or coworkers and meet their friends. 90% of numbers you're gonna get in clubs are just drunk whores who will forget who you are next day.

This. Every below average guy I knew with a decent looking gf met through work, school, social circle, etc.

Agree. Social circle is best for quality.
Chatting up randoms and OLD, can be a nice adding though, if you look good enough. for the often slow moving/slow stream of new women through social circle.
Also in social circle, one tends to need to be more careful and can't just slay maxx every woman in it even if that was an option.

 

[ripcordgod1]

yea its cope ive seen some very gl guys get rejected by like barely LTBs via cold approach tinder isn't any better tho either

u need to be at least chadlite and make a move on a chick like 1.5 PSL under u in the west

 

[ItsOverCel]

Bro just ask them to assess ur looks if they call ur ugly then run away if handsome then just invite them for a drink bro thats simple worked for me

 

[Deleted member 24940]

As someone with probably between 500 - 1000 chatups done in my past.

game matters some, but not that much. Don't fall into the pua experts trap, that most all spew the believe that game matters most. Because game matters limited. It matters some though, ngl.
But it's not and never will be, the game changer factor.

Chatting up randoms, where the effort to result ratio makes some sense.
Has factors that need to be in place, imo.
Them being.
1. Your looks level is high enough.
2. The location has enough traffic/business.
3. You don't take to much time Chatting up randoms due to nervousness letting 95% of opportunities pass by. Otherwise it takes to much time.
4. Enough single women your age range.
5. Country, culture, is okay with doing thus.
6. You have a decent level of communication skill.



Some real statts. Matched with dudes their looks level.

PUA Cold Approaching Is Fundamentally Flawed

I see absolutely nothing wrong with chatting up girls IRL, whether you call it ‘daygame’ or don’t put a label on it. It takes balls & social fluency that practically no one on here has so it’s no surprise people here shit on the idea True that. Dependant on location also. I like to add, though...

looksmax.org

1 per night. Is to little amount, for it to make sense time wise.
Assuming you don't enjoy going out, and only there for the chicks.

Ideally. One can combine going somewhere where one wants, enjoys, need to be. And in that mean time, talking with women there also.

I recall last year on holiday, I tried again to chat up randoms to see what happens. During daytime touristic, I chatted up like 15 women in 2 days time. And that was me still being to passive.
I got 1 really strong leaf out of 1. Whom I met up with 3 times during my holiday trip.
I also downloaded tinder on holiday. Managed to arrange zero meetups, although having some matches and chatts.


Tbh. Cope. Daytime can work decent also. All depends on a dude his looks level.

imo, daytime is not a bad thing to add, I'd one looks good enough. Because it costs no, so little time. Assuming one doesn't go outside in the daytime just to do this. You are waiting at that metro stop anyways. You are walking on that street anyways. You are looking in that shop anyways. You are having a snack at thatvfood place anyways. It takes like only 5 minutes, to do a random chatup in the daytime.
Whereas going out to to parties, one hates. Cost hours, money, sleep, and so on....

Random chatups in daily life can imo, be a nice added supplement feed/stream of new women.



Agree. Social circle is best for quality.
Chatting up randoms and OLD, can be a nice adding though, if you look good enough. for the often slow moving/slow stream of new women through social circle.
Also in social circle, one tends to need to be more careful and can't just slay maxx every woman in it even if that was an option.

How many girls have you successfully smashed from cold approach during the day?

I feel like unless your are STRIKINGLY attractive it's almost impossible to convert a number into a lay. The girl just has no idea who you are and has no connection to you, even if she gives you the number she'll just ghost.

 

[Deleted member 25223]

How many girls have you successfully smashed from cold approach during the day?

I feel like unless your are STRIKINGLY attractive it's almost impossible to convert a number into a lay. The girl just has no idea who you are and has no connection to you, even if she gives you the number she'll just ghost.

1 date that went badly, I'm pretty sure we were going to smash the time was close to midnight, her friend had left the house

 

[Deleted member 25995]

I'm going to to get professional anglemaxxed photos and borderline catfish women like this:

These guys photoshop/AI generate their photos

 

[eduardkoopman]

How many girls have you successfully smashed from cold approach during the day?

I feel like unless your are STRIKINGLY attractive it's almost impossible to convert a number into a lay. The girl just has no idea who you are and has no connection to you, even if she gives you the number she'll just ghost.

Check these legit statts in this table. Because it shows results that halen based on your looks level.
I chatted up like 700 orso women back in da day. So you can do the math, for my case.

PUA Cold Approaching Is Fundamentally Flawed

I see absolutely nothing wrong with chatting up girls IRL, whether you call it ‘daygame’ or don’t put a label on it. It takes balls & social fluency that practically no one on here has so it’s no surprise people here shit on the idea True that. Dependant on location also. I like to add, though...

looksmax.org

 

[thereallegend]

Check these legit statts in this table. Because it shows results that halen based on your looks level.
I chatted up like 700 orso women back in da day. So you can do the math, for my case.

PUA Cold Approaching Is Fundamentally Flawed

I see absolutely nothing wrong with chatting up girls IRL, whether you call it ‘daygame’ or don’t put a label on it. It takes balls & social fluency that practically no one on here has so it’s no surprise people here shit on the idea True that. Dependant on location also. I like to add, though...

looksmax.org

just checked the chart. so a 2-3% chance at sex? that's still better than online dating

these tinder data stats are blackpilling men, check the comments

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0.32% chance here