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WARNING: Most of the things can be found by non lazy users by the search feature but thought this would be a good way to compile everything with my thoughts of best looks and different things put together some things are water some are not thanks
It's no secret that DC superheroes are by far the best looking characters ever created, mogging even the top psl gods, namely Superman, Nightwing and Batman. They all posses the best characteristics and coloring a slayer would have both facially and physically.
Even with having live action casts of these superheroes already none of them always posses all the features needed, take robert patinson for example, his lower third is ideal for batman its almost identical in fact, however the rest of his face although also prime is not comic book tier
Following DC character design as your base for what you want to ascend is key for obtaining both a masculine yet high class look. Many end up looking too ogre after trying to looksmax or even uncanny so this is key.
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FACE
FACE
Obviously all superheroes have godlike bones meaning the improvements in this regard will require hardmaxxing for drastic changes, however there are still guidelines and things you can do to marginally improve this area based on comic characters lower thirds.
Chin
A wide chin can make or break your lower third specially in terms of looking masculine.
Your chin should be wide and projected, with its width being the same as or slightly lesser than your lips (doesnt count if you are narrowed mouth)
Hardmaxxes Available: Sliding Genioplasty, Chin Implants, Filler
Softmaxes:
Ramus
This area is basically not softmaxable unless you are extremely young and are able to correct any downgrowth you may have, most cases of a short and non defined ramus are caused by downswing so anything that helps rotate your jaw back counter clockwise will improve the perceived length. This goes for many other parts of the face (downswing = death)
Hardmaxes: Vertical Ramus Osteotomy
Softmax: Bonesmash it and pray to gandy
Lips
Wide lips are a dominant trait if you are narrowed mouth expanding them is key
Hardmaxes:
Chin
A wide chin can make or break your lower third specially in terms of looking masculine.
Your chin should be wide and projected, with its width being the same as or slightly lesser than your lips (doesnt count if you are narrowed mouth)
Hardmaxxes Available: Sliding Genioplasty, Chin Implants, Filler
Softmaxes:
- Roids (If not past development stage)
- Bonesmashing (Cope if not paired with gear and vitamin OD)
- Lower body fat (being fat will make your chin rounded which will not let you judge its real width, even if being less body fat makes your chin have slightly less volume a defined one will always look better)
- Makeup (You can slightly silloute around the chin to make it look slightly better, this is not worth it though for most)
- Jutting (Not permanent but if mastered can easily make chin look significantly better and some theorize that permanent jutting paired with hard mewing during development can help with lower third, this is probably cope but still jutt if you are chin deficient many have shown great results like @pneumocystosis
Ramus
This area is basically not softmaxable unless you are extremely young and are able to correct any downgrowth you may have, most cases of a short and non defined ramus are caused by downswing so anything that helps rotate your jaw back counter clockwise will improve the perceived length. This goes for many other parts of the face (downswing = death)
Hardmaxes: Vertical Ramus Osteotomy
Softmax: Bonesmash it and pray to gandy
Lips
Wide lips are a dominant trait if you are narrowed mouth expanding them is key
Hardmaxes:
- Lip flip (Lifefuel for long philtrumcels)
- lip lift
- filler
- lateral commissuroplasty
Nose:
Thin not wide and straight, you should not have a dorsal hump
Hardmaxes: Rhinoplasty, alar base reduction...
Softmaxes:
Eyes:
Hardmaxes: Cantho, eyelid retraction, blepharoplasty,facelift, PDO threads (more mild hardmax, check out claviculars thread on it)
Softmaxes:
Must be projected laterally and forward, again basically unsoftmaxable but if you want to look like a superhero you cant expect not to hardmax
Hardmaxes:
Thin not wide and straight, you should not have a dorsal hump
Hardmaxes: Rhinoplasty, alar base reduction...
Softmaxes:
- Nose exercises (Forgot link but theres a thread on here that has one where you gently push up on the nose while holding on the sides and perform sets by flaring nostrils to help a downturned nose tip)
- Tret/accutane: Possibly cope but some have noticed difference in thickness to to a decrease in oil creation
- Makeup: contouring the nose properly can easily make it look much better
Eyes:
Hardmaxes: Cantho, eyelid retraction, blepharoplasty,facelift, PDO threads (more mild hardmax, check out claviculars thread on it)
Softmaxes:
- Longer darker lashes (Look for guides here, tint them and use hair growth agents on them),
- Eye exercises (some say cope others no, doesnt hurt to try many people use one eye more than the other which can easily lead to assymetries)
- Any guide on here or tiktok
Must be projected laterally and forward, again basically unsoftmaxable but if you want to look like a superhero you cant expect not to hardmax
Hardmaxes:
- ZSO
- Implants
Eyebrows:
Dense and long, NOT THICK, having excessively thick eyebrows is a problem that i feel many here end up having when they try to maximise them, the thicker your eyebrows get the less long theyll be perceived as, its better to sacrifice somethickness for more perceived length. Notice that regardless its very rare that these comic character have thick eyebrows they are always just dense.
Hardmaxes: Eyebrow transplant
Softmaxes:
Forehead size is the most difficult thing to decypher here, as some interpreations give them small foreheads with low hairlines and others a larger forehead, 3.5 - 4 finger forehead though should be fine. Nightwing often has a smaller forehead than batman or superman to show that he is younger since a wider one is a masc trait.
The most important thing here is to have a nw0 hairline that is either perfectly straight or has a straight widows peak (actual widows peak is different from nw1).
The next most important is your temple peaks, they will without a doubt make or break you think about them as the frame of your face. These imo are extremely worth to hardmax they must be dense and angular. For these you can get custom designed implants @LiterallyNightwing is very knowledgeable on this.
Dense and long, NOT THICK, having excessively thick eyebrows is a problem that i feel many here end up having when they try to maximise them, the thicker your eyebrows get the less long theyll be perceived as, its better to sacrifice somethickness for more perceived length. Notice that regardless its very rare that these comic character have thick eyebrows they are always just dense.
Hardmaxes: Eyebrow transplant
Softmaxes:
- Minox, or other hairgrowth agents
- Certain exercises can help with tilt
- Overall grooming, can make them thinner with a more angular shape
- Dye them darker
- Eyebrow stamping
Forehead size is the most difficult thing to decypher here, as some interpreations give them small foreheads with low hairlines and others a larger forehead, 3.5 - 4 finger forehead though should be fine. Nightwing often has a smaller forehead than batman or superman to show that he is younger since a wider one is a masc trait.
The most important thing here is to have a nw0 hairline that is either perfectly straight or has a straight widows peak (actual widows peak is different from nw1).
The next most important is your temple peaks, they will without a doubt make or break you think about them as the frame of your face. These imo are extremely worth to hardmax they must be dense and angular. For these you can get custom designed implants @LiterallyNightwing is very knowledgeable on this.
PHYSIQUE
I am not gonna go over what muscles are most important in this thread since its already been widely discussed everywhere even youtube and etc, however I'll give some guidelines.Height: Nightwing is canonically "short" and he is 5'11 you should strive for atleast 6'1 even if it means frauding height. Keep in mind that these guys literally wear boots when they are out just to look more menacing when fighting. If you are not atleast 5'11 unfraded with a good frame you should be more specific with how you max out your frame as it can make you appear worse.
Frame: Wide straight clavicles, waist should be 30-32 inches. You need these so that as you develop your vtaper will become impressive. ( Do reeves deadlifts if you are in your teens, they were done by one of the original supermen who was a silver age body builder in order to increase his bideltoid)
Simple Program For First Year Of Lifting: I will be attaching a program that I ran myself from age 14-16 to build my base before switching, with this you should be able to build up to a 225 bench, 365 squat and 405 deadlift in two years, thats how long I took.
COLORING / HAIRSTYLE / EXTRA?
Coloring: Dye hair and brows black, wear blue contacts, neutral undertones (not too pale but not tanned either), lips somewhat rosey but not fruityHairstyle: Get straight hair first medium length hair, the hairstyle heavily depends on occasion but in general it should be neat and not a fringe. I say to look at dick grayson for best reference on hairstyles for everyone here below 30
Extra:
-Stick to neutral high class colors, get a singular nice watch and dont smell like a bum
-Get some hobbies that are done with others, when you are further into your ascension there's nothing better than building a skill in a group while also comparing yourself to them and seeing you look better, you will start to build admiration trust.
Tagging Bhais:
@pneumocystosis @NorwoodAscender @Clavicular
