GIANT the inventor and why you should be careful with going to him

[lurking truecel]

Firstly him saying he is a inventor is just to seem more creative then he really is. Being an inventor is very easy, creating something that is not tested is a fools job.


And if you dont understand why being an inventor means nothing here is why:

-He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince, which means he has zero longterm result. So basically his inventions havent even been tested yet longterm. most of the common teqniques out there have 20 years of longterm data about risks etc( bimax tech, rhinoplasty tech etc )

- One example is the hole in his implant design, this leads to bigger surface area which increases risk for infections longterm, also the holes will create better microbiomes for bacteria and fluid to build up( Perfect eyyyy)

- And him being the inventor often just means, no other surgeon is stupid enough to do this

-Also most of his inventions are a slight change to another surgeons orginal idea, example below

Giant inventing the jaw implant and bsso hybrid implant

meawhile sailer 2017 before giant even was active in surgery had a youtube clip about him doing bsso and jaw implant in the same surgery. What a orginal thought mr inventor.

Final conclusion on reasons why you should be careful with giant

- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does

-He tells people on this forum that the surgeon doesnt matter lolololololol

-He works in turkey for less regulations on his extreme risky surgeries without even having a medical degree or taking any kind of actual responsiblity

-He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants that he knows will look uncanny for the rest of their life which indicate the lack of empathy( ohh just remove the implant, sure removing an implant that goes across the whole face will look good lelelel)

-He down plays the risk of surgery

-He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.

-He does things most surgeons dont want to do because he cant compete, so he feed on the desperate instead( people with high esr or low for example that needs obo but cant get it elsewhere)

- He has not a single result out there

-he downplays surgeons responsibility in botching, that every surgeon or designer does wrong and fails.( not wrong but you dont want to do a surgery with a designer that downplays his part in having a bad result with you)



sidenote: giant is an interesting person and its cool that he is testing around and being a pioneer. But i wouldnt go to him myself and be a bunny to his frankenstein testing. Its also cool that he went from a basement dweller too actually doing surgeries on people. Kinda scary that its even possible without any sort of relevant degree, but thats not his fault. And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol

 

[cjydn]

Giants Response When?

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Giant has a chemistry degree

 

[Greyascension]

Giant has a chemistry degree

Syfm nih

 

[Greyascension]

NOT water. Mirin protecting safety and harm reduction

 

[Don12456]

Who did ur infras and how many mm projection did you get?

 

[key]

I'm not gonna address the technical parts but I think you're being a little unfair

He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince

Age and experience are no guarantee of ability or quality, as a kid my teeth we're fucked by a dentist with dEcAdEs of experience, a fresh grad fixed his mistakes, I agree that experience is important but 5 years is a long fucking time, if you are dedicated to something for even half that time you can become VERY good at it

He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants that he knows will look uncanny for the rest of their life which indicate the lack of empathy

You've been on this site long enough to know some people will refuse to take his advice (which is always to aim for natural and harmonic results) some people just want massive fucking implants

He down plays the risk of surgery

Bro almost ALL people in cosmetic surgery including the surgeons themselves do this, every consultation I've had with the exception of maybe 3 (that I can currently think of) have been flippant about the risks, its a business, they're trying to sell you not scare you

He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.

Lets not pretend like surgeons haven't been lurking and infiltrating surgery subreddits for YEARS, they all do it somewhere, just not here (yet)

He has not a single result out there

Not true?

he downplays surgeons responsibility in botching

Again this is pretty much everyone in cosmetic surgery

 

[JohanBigBalle]

I don't mean to dickride giant but I do have some thoughts regarding what you said.

creating something that is not tested

Okay go ahead and create something that is tested then. Cmon bro, that whole sentence is just illogical. Either way, it's not like the guy just makes up shit... creating innovations without any thought behind them. If his stuff wasn't legit then no surgeon would work with him anyway, turkey or not.

He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince, which means he has zero longterm result.

What 'longterm results' are you expecting to see? The stuff he does, such as jaw surgery, implants, etc, are all already proven to be safe (with some risk of minor complications) short term and long term. Why would it be different with Giant? His is the same but better. More specific to aesthetics, and apparently superior in other ways as well according to his marketing, which you can check out yourself (to the person reading this).

- One example is the hole in his implant design, this leads to bigger surface area which increases risk for infections longterm, also the holes will create better microbiomes for bacteria and fluid to build up( Perfect eyyyy)

Idk much about this but there's been one guy who complained about infection. And he's done what? 100's of cases? This doesn't mean that only 1 has gotten infected, maybe there have been others, but STILL. If it was an alarming amount, we'd see a lot more public complaints about it.

- And him being the inventor often just means, no other surgeon is stupid enough to do this

Or it could simply be because no one else cares too. Surgeons don't need to innovate or serve niche markets in order to be well off financially. They can just keep doing what they're doing. They don't have any incentive.

-He tells people on this forum that the surgeon doesnt matter lolololololol

This is probably taken out of context. He probably means that it doesn't matter for HIS patients, not surgery itself. But correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, he is the surgery designer / planner (or whatever you call it), and he assists in the surgeries, which makes that statement pretty reasonable (that it doesn't matter).

He works in turkey for less regulations on his extreme risky surgeries without even having a medical degree or taking any kind of actual responsiblity

At a regular European hospital that follows the same standard as others in EU? Right? Or wrong? Also "for less regulations" do you have evidence, is it a fact, or is this just conspiracy?

He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants

Some of the leaked patient photos that are apparently Giant's I do agree don't look that great, but then some do look great. But it's a fair point.

-He down plays the risk of surgery

I've only seen him talking about surgery risk on that one IG story about the statistics. And that he claims his stats are much lower (aka better) than the industry average, which I believe. But anyway, statistics don't lie. If it's statistically safe then it's statistically safe. I don't see the deal.

He does things most surgeons dont want to do because he cant compete, so he feed on the desperate instead( people with high esr or low for example that needs obo but cant get it elsewhere)

Idk, I thought he did work on non-looksmaxxers too. I don't think he has an issue 'competing'. That's just conspiracy

- He has not a single result out there

He literally does.

Then your last point regarding having a degree. Some of the smartest people I know that do business don't have a degree in it. You don't need a degree to know your stuff. For example, you can literally watch dozens of expert interviews, read a few books or publications, and then have comparable knowledge to other experts in the field. Sometimes even more knowledge than the experts (not uncommon).

We live in an age where information and education is not limited to certain institutions, but is instead available to anyone on the internet. So I quite frankly don't care about the degrees he has. I look at his results instead and judge based on that.

 

[JohanBigBalle]

Age and experience are no guarantee of ability or quality

Absolutely. Gunson has 900 years of experience. Wouldn't ever step a foot in his clinic with all due respect.

 

[slaters]

Well luckily or unluckily Giant is the only one that can give you the ascension you need if you’re like low mtn or worse

 

[BM7]

A diploma is just a piece of paper. I like you, but I firmly believe that everything Giant has been doing is what will elevate plastic surgery over the next 10 years. Everything you said is part of a learning curve

 

[neuf]

Firstly him saying he is a inventor is just to seem more creative then he really is. Being an inventor is very easy, creating something that is not tested is a fools job.


And if you dont understand why being an inventor means nothing here is why:

-He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince, which means he has zero longterm result. So basically his inventions havent even been tested yet longterm. most of the common teqniques out there have 20 years of longterm data about risks etc( bimax tech, rhinoplasty tech etc )

- One example is the hole in his implant design, this leads to bigger surface area which increases risk for infections longterm, also the holes will create better microbiomes for bacteria and fluid to build up( Perfect eyyyy)

- And him being the inventor often just means, no other surgeon is stupid enough to do this

-Also most of his inventions are a slight change to another surgeons orginal idea, example below

Giant inventing the jaw implant and bsso hybrid implant

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meawhile sailer 2017 before giant even was active in surgery had a youtube clip about him doing bsso and jaw implant in the same surgery. What a orginal thought mr inventor.

View attachment 4319835

Final conclusion on reasons why you should be careful with giant

- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does

-He tells people on this forum that the surgeon doesnt matter lolololololol

-He works in turkey for less regulations on his extreme risky surgeries without even having a medical degree or taking any kind of actual responsiblity

-He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants that he knows will look uncanny for the rest of their life which indicate the lack of empathy( ohh just remove the implant, sure removing an implant that goes across the whole face will look good lelelel)

-He down plays the risk of surgery

-He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.

-He does things most surgeons dont want to do because he cant compete, so he feed on the desperate instead( people with high esr or low for example that needs obo but cant get it elsewhere)

- He has not a single result out there

-he downplays surgeons responsibility in botching, that every surgeon or designer does wrong and fails.( not wrong but you dont want to do a surgery with a designer that downplays his part in having a bad result with you)



sidenote: giant is an interesting person and its cool that he is testing around and being a pioneer. But i wouldnt go to him myself and be a bunny to his frankenstein testing. Its also cool that he went from a basement dweller too actually doing surgeries on people. Kinda scary that its even possible without any sort of relevant degree, but thats not his fault. And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol

hasn't giant botched / killed people lol ?

 

[HerpDerpson]

surgeries without even having a medical degree

It's normal for a maxfac to start as a dentist. It's probably more common to go through that route than to come from the general medicine.

 

[smartstyle]

Well luckily or unluckily Giant is the only one that can give you the ascension you need if you’re like low mtn or worse

every second surgeon does that btw.

A diploma is just a piece of paper. I like you, but I firmly believe that everything Giant has been doing is what will elevate plastic surgery over the next 10 years. Everything you said is part of a learning curve

diploma is literally sign that you can spend 7 years studying things and being persistent in it, it literally involves good amount of self control/discipline to become a doctor. "pARt of lEaRNing CuRve BRO!"

problem is HE IS VERY SHADY. I would only go to doctor in my country or first world one. Not to some shady nigger who uses turkey and sue immune.

i am not trusting a guy who literally ANAL FISTS his patients and POSTS how to AVOID BEING SUED. And does that OPENLY.
Who literally has pepe pfp and doesnt show his face.
Who has reputation of botcher in this community.
Who calls himself "the best of the best".

like the guy is textbook example of homosexual(not fucked a single woman btw but 100+ men) narcissist.

Case Closed.

 

[Aqualad]

The blatant narcissism and lack of empathy should be enough for people to know it’s not worth it

I mean he literally has left peopled stranded in other countries because he was partying, no?

 

[lurking truecel]

It's normal for a maxfac to start as a dentist. It's probably more common to go through that route than to come from the general medicine.

He has a degree in some bioengineering shit that is three years totally unrelated. A general dentist studies for 5-6 years in the field where maxfac is very related. Most maxfacs are doctors and have 10 years of studies and research. But yea he is just a implant designer and a planner

 

[ssxjdgh]

Well luckily or unluckily Giant is the only one that can give you the ascension you need if you’re like low mtn or worse

Must be others..

 

[lurking truecel]

The blatant narcissism and lack of empathy should be enough for people to know it’s not worth it

I mean he literally has left peopled stranded in other countries because he was partying, no?

Yes, he has ruined some peoples lifes because of unethical surgery and doing surgery that he himself understands will have unfavorable outcome. He has no empathy whatsover

 

[ssxjdgh]

every second surgeon does that btw.

Sorry but who exactly?

 

[ssxjdgh]

Yes, he has ruined some peoples lifes because of unethical surgery and doing surgery that he himself understands will have unfavorable outcome. He has no empathy whatsover

Other then that one guy who else

 

[lurking truecel]

A diploma is just a piece of paper. I like you, but I firmly believe that everything Giant has been doing is what will elevate plastic surgery over the next 10 years. Everything you said is part of a learning curve

Absolute cinema, yes implants will become more common and better teqniques will arise. But i dont think giant has done any considerable contribution, but yea doing test like humans are rats and being totally unethical in doing things that shouldnt really be done will ofc help science in someway. Just like some other human testing camps done before

 

[Aqualad]

Yes, he has ruined some peoples lifes because of unethical surgery and doing surgery that he himself understands will have unfavorable outcome. He has no empathy whatsover

I think this might be why he doesn’t respond to people most of the time + doesn’t have a business system in play. It’s likely because deep down he knows he doesn’t have the ability to turn you into a “chad” like he pretends to. This will fuck anybodies brain up knowing you’re taking advantage of insecure retards pretending you can save them but in reality you just want to empty their wallet

 

[lurking truecel]

Well luckily or unluckily Giant is the only one that can give you the ascension you need if you’re like low mtn or worse

Yes have you seen someone really ascend from him? I mean ofc some of them have done bimax so ofc they ascend but is it from the implants designed by giant or the exact surgery plan from giant ? Or is it just because all look better from a bimax

 

[m0ss26]

-Also most of his inventions are a slight change to another surgeons orginal idea, example below

I dont completely disagree that its a bit riskier to go with a younger and more extreme guy, I dont think anyone will debate that



But for the claim above, no shit. Almost all of advancement in any field is just slight changes to other peoples original ideas, especially in this current day and age when everything is already so advanced.

 

[slaters]

Yes have you seen someone really ascend from him? I mean ofc some of them have done bimax so ofc they ascend but is it from the implants designed by giant or the exact surgery plan from giant ? Or is it just because all look better from a bimax

I’ve seen a couple good ones

 

[idnap]

Firstly him saying he is a inventor is just to seem more creative then he really is. Being an inventor is very easy, creating something that is not tested is a fools job.


And if you dont understand why being an inventor means nothing here is why:

-He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince, which means he has zero longterm result. So basically his inventions havent even been tested yet longterm. most of the common teqniques out there have 20 years of longterm data about risks etc( bimax tech, rhinoplasty tech etc )

- One example is the hole in his implant design, this leads to bigger surface area which increases risk for infections longterm, also the holes will create better microbiomes for bacteria and fluid to build up( Perfect eyyyy)

- And him being the inventor often just means, no other surgeon is stupid enough to do this

-Also most of his inventions are a slight change to another surgeons orginal idea, example below

Giant inventing the jaw implant and bsso hybrid implant

View attachment 4319828

meawhile sailer 2017 before giant even was active in surgery had a youtube clip about him doing bsso and jaw implant in the same surgery. What a orginal thought mr inventor.

View attachment 4319835

Final conclusion on reasons why you should be careful with giant

- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does

-He tells people on this forum that the surgeon doesnt matter lolololololol

-He works in turkey for less regulations on his extreme risky surgeries without even having a medical degree or taking any kind of actual responsiblity

-He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants that he knows will look uncanny for the rest of their life which indicate the lack of empathy( ohh just remove the implant, sure removing an implant that goes across the whole face will look good lelelel)

-He down plays the risk of surgery

-He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.

-He does things most surgeons dont want to do because he cant compete, so he feed on the desperate instead( people with high esr or low for example that needs obo but cant get it elsewhere)

- He has not a single result out there

-he downplays surgeons responsibility in botching, that every surgeon or designer does wrong and fails.( not wrong but you dont want to do a surgery with a designer that downplays his part in having a bad result with you)



sidenote: giant is an interesting person and its cool that he is testing around and being a pioneer. But i wouldnt go to him myself and be a bunny to his frankenstein testing. Its also cool that he went from a basement dweller too actually doing surgeries on people. Kinda scary that its even possible without any sort of relevant degree, but thats not his fault. And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol

Im waiting for realsurgerymax's sensible response, he keeps his transformations private and already done said while ur in consultation and both are serious abt taking things further he'll show x y z transformations. jfl at all the pessismists jerking eachother off with negative affirmations bout dis dude tho JFL

 

[Whirr22222]

I’ve seen a couple good ones

Linoob's looked pretty excellent IMO especially considering his base, thats like the only one Ive seen. What ones have u seen?

 

[slaters]

Linoob's looked pretty excellent IMO especially considering his base, thats like the only one Ive seen. What ones have u seen?

If linoob is the guy with the Greek tat that was the best and some white guy got one and I saw some other turkish(?) guy too

 

[Napoleon1800]

His reputation will be greatly impacted based on clav’s surgery

 

[lurking truecel]

I don't mean to dickride giant but I do have some thoughts regarding what you said.

Sure

Okay go ahead and create something that is tested then. Cmon bro, that whole sentence is just illogical. Either way, it's not like the guy just makes up shit... creating innovations without any thought behind them. If his stuff wasn't legit then no surgeon would work with him anyway, turkey or not.

Its nothing wrong with creating something new. But his test subjects(incels/lookmax rotters) dont even understand that the are test rats. Because they think extremly dangerous surgery is the only way because they are in this hell hole of a site. Many are also too young but sure if one is adult its still their problem and it isnt illegal. But its almost like creating a cult and then take people in

What 'longterm results' are you expecting to see? The stuff he does, such as jaw surgery, implants, etc, are all already proven to be safe (with some risk of minor complications) short term and long term. Why would it be different with Giant? His is the same but better. More specific to aesthetics, and apparently superior in other ways as well according to his marketing, which you can check out yourself (to the person reading this).

Leforte 2/3 isnt commonly done and should t be done on some desperate inkwell because he is too stupid to realize better. His implant designs are a lot bigger most and are made with huge saddles etc which is close to the eye. One day when one lose bone with age the implants can shift etc. And what happens if its shifts the wrong way ? I mean their is plenty of things that he does that just aren't tested. Normally surgeons has ethics and does risky surgery which hasnt been done on severe cases with close follow ups their whole life basically

Idk much about this but there's been one guy who complained about infection. And he's done what? 100's of cases? This doesn't mean that only 1 has gotten infected, maybe there have been others, but STILL. If it was an alarming amount, we'd see a lot more public complaints about it.

It has been five years, very little time yet, and infections isnt the biggest problem but his designs in theory according to the actual science create bigger risks of infections longterm because of bigger surface area. But i mean that is probably not a big problem in itself

Or it could simply be because no one else cares too. Surgeons don't need to innovate or serve niche markets in order to be well off financially. They can just keep doing what they're doing. They don't have any incentive.

They invent new things all the time and like you said most things of what giant does is not new inventions but rather no other surgeon is stupid enough to take the risks he does. And uses people as guinea pigs. But yea its only incels after all

This is probably taken out of context. He probably means that it doesn't matter for HIS patients, not surgery itself. But correct me if I'm wrong.

Why would it not matter for his patients how the surgeon treat the condyles, nerves, muscles etc all with his own hands. His planning is not part of that even so its a stupid statement.

Anyway, he is the surgery designer / planner (or whatever you call it), and he assists in the surgeries, which makes that statement pretty reasonable (that it doesn't matter).

How is it reasonable, do you know how much most surgeries deviates from the plan ? Most of them by a considerably amount. The surgeon is equally important as the plan

At a regular European hospital that follows the same standard as others in EU? Right? Or wrong? Also "for less regulations" do you have evidence, is it a fact, or is this just conspiracy?

You cant use laws to take legal actions if something goes wrong basically, its not a conspiracy theory. But yea i dont know the exact details. Use grok to see the diffrences

Some of the leaked patient photos that are apparently Giant's I do agree don't look that great, but then some do look great. But it's a fair point.

I mean all i have seen who looked decent was made at pags office not in turkey

I've only seen him talking about surgery risk on that one IG story about the statistics. And that he claims his stats are much lower (aka better) than the industry average, which I believe. But anyway, statistics don't lie. If it's statistically safe then it's statistically safe. I don't see the deal.

Yea, how is this relevant tho because the risks cones from the surgeon. He does rhe planning. If his stats were better it would be because of celal, pag etc. which i doubt esp the Turkish ones

Idk, I thought he did work on non-looksmaxxers too. I don't think he has an issue 'competing'. That's just conspiracy

Why would i have a conspiracy, he doesnt show anything so all of it second guessing. But sure if you believe his ramblings then be the test rat in turkey. What can go wrong, right ? If they do go wrong i am sure he will respond on message from thailand

He literally does.

Then your last point regarding having a degree. Some of the smartest people I know that do business don't have a degree in it. You don't need a degree to know your stuff. For example, you can literally watch dozens of expert interviews, read a few books or publications, and then have comparable knowledge to other experts in the field. Sometimes even more knowledge than the experts (not uncommon).

Yea many doctors etc dont have a medical degree. Moat of the actual science is not from people with degrees, right? Surgery is not about being street smart you fool. A degree is guarante that you know stuff snd is tested and graded. Sitting at home studying yourself is just second guessing how much you really know.

We live in an age where information and education is not limited to certain institutions, but is instead available to anyone on the internet. So I quite frankly don't care about the degrees he has. I look at his results instead and judge based on that.

I mean like i said luckily enough he sends gis designs to a company or engineer that verifies his planning if he works with the italians like pagnoni. Thats why those surgeries are still kinda safe, even though pag himself has several botches just this year

 

[lurking truecel]

Im waiting for realsurgerymax's sensible response, he keeps his transformations private and already done said while ur in consultation and both are serious abt taking things further he'll show x y z transformations. jfl at all the pessismists jerking eachother off with negative affirmations bout dis dude tho JFL

I mean why would he hide them away if they were so good. And all the good results are from when he is carried by the surgeons in italy like pag. But sure when you get consult you will be blown out of the water from all the chads you will see. Left and righr up and down chads all around. Created by giant himself, he probably will want to have some guarantee before he shows you them so he cann take legal action if you would leak. Also if its pics it might aswell be photoshopped slightly. I would be very cautious for sure

 

[Dathomirian Zabrak]

Giantimplant is fuaking meme. Implant surgeries need revision most of the time and if you went surgery with giant and need revision. Its over. He gonna delay it everytime while spending your money to fuck thailand whore. And do i need to mention his all cases look uncanny asf