GOD BELIEVERS GTFIH

Exactly so essentially we have to rely on both assumptions and proof to identify if something is true or not
Yes, i agree with your statement, every logical argument needs some sort of assumption or starting point of even a little bit of evidence
 
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God and free will cannot coexist

why would god make me in the first place if he knew i was gonna be an atheist

if he knew i was gonna die an atheist, i never had free will to begin with

its literally just propaganda to control the mass

those sins are also just manmade religion propaganda so u can follow some imaginary rules

evil doesnt exist nor does good
Yeah and peoples religion is just based of where you live and everybodys religion is somehow the only right one.
 
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Ya I think and hope most people at least can all agree on that the world wasn’t made by accident

It’s too complex
Great conversation
 
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Yes, i agree with your statement, every logical argument needs some sort of assumption or starting point of even a little bit of evidence
Yes 2 psl mogger
 
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High quality thread, W op
 
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Yeah and peoples religion is just based of where you live and everybodys religion is somehow the only right one.
Ya
God and free will cannot coexist

why would god make me in the first place if he knew i was gonna be an atheist

if he knew i was gonna die an atheist, i never had free will to begin with

its literally just propaganda to control the mass

those sins are also just manmade religion propaganda so u can follow some imaginary rules

evil doesnt exist nor does good
There is no salvation without suffering

We must endure struggle to reach heaven

“Sins are manmade religion propaganda”

Look at the state of the world rn tell me all of them aren’t in full effect
 
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its a very long topic and some anon here giving u info isnt gonna make u religious without reading the scriptures if youre serious about it read the holy books
 
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Yes, recently i looked into aquinas “five ways to prove god” his shit was so flawed and it was just insanely a stupid argument that people classify as “2000 years of theology”
Hahahahaha I can’t be reading this right.
 
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That goes against religion entirely lol, religion is built on faith
And how does that go against religion? Faith doesn’t mean believing without considering reasons. I wasnt claiming my argument proves god exists, i was pointing out that the possibility of god and the consequences of being wrong can rationally matter

what a low iq reason to believe in god

translation : i believe in god because im scared of going to hell

What a stupid argument

Translation: "I have no clue, how to adress an actual argument, so i'll just project, use ad hominems and attack positions you never claimed"

Everyone that is religious says this. There is "proof" in every religion, and there is infinitely many religions. Do you think god would put everybody in eternal suffering to everybody just like that. Eternal life is also something stupid that people think about. Don't you realise that god gave us a gift of being mortal? It would be a horrible thing to live on forever
Existence of many religions doesn't prove they're all false.There are many competing explanations for reality in general, that doesn’t mean we conclude that none of them can be true

When you actually believe in a religion, you don't spin a wheel, you actually examine the competing religions and see which one is logically conherent and strongest evidence supporting it.

You're eternal life/mortality opinio is just an opinion. Many religions don’t describe eternal life as an endless extension of ordinary mortal human existence. If eternal life meant an infinitely extended version of our life, i could see where you would be getting at.
 
Cuz everything have to have came from something
It Isn't just "BAH KABOOM UNIVERSE CREATED"
And It's not like energy came out of nowhere too, there's always a reason behind everything in reality
 

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