Guide on achieving model tier skin

I. Skincare
Skincare routine

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Facial cleanser
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Start the routine by rubbing a cleanser on your face at morning and before bed to clear your skin's pores from all the dirt that gets stuck on it during the day. Be careful to chose products that doesn't contain alcohol as it dries the skin out.

Moisturiser
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After cleaning your skin, use a moisturising lotion on it to keep it hydrated all day. I can highly recommend products from CeraVe and Neutrogena.

SPF cream
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Always use sun protection cream before leaving your house, especially if you are white (but don't be lazy even if you are not, even the darkest of darkest blacks only have a natural SPF of around 15). Use as high factored as possible, at least 30 (you can use higher factored, more expensive one on your valuable face and cheaper low factored elsewhere on your body to save money). A smart idea is to use a moisturiser lotion that has SPF built into it.

Tretinoin
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A retinoid sold under the brand name Retin A or Retino among others, it does wonders for acne, skin tightness, wrinkle prevention and collagen production. It comes in different strengths (0.01%, 0.025% and 0.1%). I recommend starting with the weakest one and see it if you need to up the strength. Apply a pea sized amount from the cream and rub it evenly on your skin before going to bed. It increases sensitivity to sun rays, so be sure to apply SPF too.

Chapstick
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Use chapstick on your lips at morning and before bed to keep them hydrated and glowing. Dry, chapped lips look horrible so you should avoid those with this cheap tool.

Exfoliating
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Once or twice a week take the time to exfoliate after you have cleansed your skin. Rub the exfoliating cream on your skin to remove dead skin, then wash it off with water when you are finished.

Red light lamp
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Use a red light lamp once or twice a week for 15 minutes by looking at it with your face from 60-70 cm (use sunglasses to protect your eyes). The wattage doesn't really matter but the wavelength of the light should be around 670nm. It increases blood flow, helps with acne, collagen production, elasticity and improves mitochondrial function.

Help of a professional - visiting a cosmetician or a dermatologist
If you are struggling with severe acne, has blackheads, acne scars or other issues, you should regularly see a cosmetician and get your skin cleaned professionaly, like on a monthly basis. If you have serious skin conditions seek the help of a dermatologist before ordering Accutane from some vendor from the slums of Mumbai just because some autist recommended you to do so on an internet forum.

II. Nutrition
I can recommend you eating as much animal based foods as possible to achieve mogger skin. A thread I made before detailing my diet:
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Some key elements in your diet to keep your eye on:

Protein
Eat enough protein to fuel your body as it literally creates everything from breaking the protein down thousands of different amino acids then rebuilding it to make your skin renew itself constantly. Aim for at least 2g / lean body mass kg (1 g / lbs) of animal based protein per day

Fats
Animal fats are essential for keeping your skin healthy and strong. Don't hesitate to eat shitload of saturated fat and cholesterol despite what normies say about them. Don't fall for the fear mongering against PUFAs. Both omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids are essential nutrients which the body can't produce on itself. They are the building blocks of cell membranes and help keep the skin hydrated. What in reality matters is keeping the omega3/6 ratio between 1:1 and 1:4.

Collagen
You should aid your body's natural collagen production by making bone broth or supplementing through hydrolized animal collagen peptides. Beef, fish, pork it doesn't really matter, eat as much as you can afford, the more the better. I personnaly consume 20 g of hydrolized beef collagen peptides a day.

Hyaluronic acid
Helps increase skin moisture and reduce dryness. You should get around 100-200mg daily from supplements.

Vitamin A
Promotes skin health by giving certain amount of protection from sunburn and fighting free radicals as an antioxidant. Don't be affraid to megadose it as it seems to clear the skin in high doses. The best natural source of it is liver, doesn't matter from what animal. For reference just 100g of pork liver has 700% of the RDA of vitamin A, talking about nature's superfoods.

Vitamin C
Ascorbic acid is essential for tissue reparation and collagen formation. It is crucial to keep in mind that due to their molecules being so similar, glucose (sugar) competes in absorption with vitamin C:
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What this means in practical terms is the more carbs you eat, the more vitamin C you need as it greatly hinders it's absorption. You can get away with as low as liver's natural ascorbic acid content (around 40mg / 100g) if you eat carnivorous and avoid carbs but otherwise aim for 2-3 gramms per day if you are following a conventional, carbohydrate based diet.


Vitamin D
Helps the skin from premature aging while also plays an integral role in protection and rejuvenation. The lighter your skin, the easier you can synthetise it from sunlight. White guys can get away even with 15 mins of winter sun but if you are black and live in Europe or other northern places you should definitely supplement it exogenously. Fatty oily fish like mackerel and hering are excellent sources to do so.

Vitamin E
A powerful antioxidant which reduces UV damage coming from the sun and helps fighting the inflammation caused by it. Fish and seafood are a good animal sources of it.

Vitamin K
Helps wounds, bruises, stretch marks and cuts to heal. Brightens dark circles, boosts skin elasticity, reduces the appearance of under eye sagging and wrinkles. You don't really have to worry about it since chances are you already eat enough of it. You want to have the K2 variant tho, found in animal sources (K1, the one found in plant foods has dogshit absorption ratio).

Zinc
Has anti-inflammatory effects which makes it effective against acne.Found in meat in abundance.

Water
Consume at least 4-5 liters of water per day to help keep your skin moisturised.

II. Ideal skintone and darkness
Warm skin undertone
The ideal skin tone for men is warm, glowing and orangeish, as opposed to pale and pinkish, seen on the left:
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Beta carotene
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A precursor of vitamin A and a carotene which is naturally found in yellow - orange vegetables giving them their iconic color. It makes your skin undertone yellowish. Good food sources include sweet potatoes, carrots and pumpkins, but you can also get it from tablets. I recommend doing a loading phase for 1-2 weeks intaking 100 000 IUs of beta carotene (vitamin A is fat solluble meaning it gets deposited) daily, then maintenance at 25 - 50 000 IUs / day.

Lycopene
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Also a carotene, which gives red undertone to your skin and makes it glowing when consumed. Found in tomatoes naturally, but you can also take from tablets. I recommend 20mgs / day. Use in combination with beta carotene to achieve warm orange toned skin.

Myself as an example:
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The picture on the left shows my original skintone few years ago during wintertime. The pic on the right was taken just now. I haven't done any tanning lately (and haven't gotten any sun either as it's cold December rn in Europe), only been using carotenoids.


Skin darkness
The ideal skin darkness for men is that of olive, light brown or caramel color. Mulattoes and light skin niggas already have this color so if you are one, congratulations, you have nothing to do in this department. Meeks' coloring is perhaps as good as it gets:
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Olive skin, common that of Meds is also very good:
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But Nordic and other white guys can achieve it too with a bit of effort, a good example is Swedish model Arvid Hestner:
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If you are South Asian, Middle Eastern / North African, Latino or South East Asian you should avoid darkening your skin any more, but can use carotenoids regardless for glowing skin.

For white guys the skin darkening methods starting from the best to worst are the following:

a) Melanotan
If you want to (semi) permanently darken your skin without raping your collagen and major negative side effects, Melanotan 1 or 2 is the way to go. You can inject it or use it in the form of a nasal spray if you are afraid of needles. Melanotan is especially recommended for gingers and white guys with extremely light Fitzpatrick 1 skin as it not only darkens the skin itself but also hair follicles, leading to a more masculine pheno.
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b) Self tanner
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A much less effective alternative compared to Melanotan. Self tanning creams and sprays darken your epithelium (the outer layer of the skin), which sheds continously, which means the darkening effect goes away very fast, perhaps as short as a week. The color of it can look very fake (bright yellow / orange) if you buy a shitty product, making you a laughning stock. Remove facial & body hair and exfoliate before using a self tanner to prevent uneven spots. Pros of it include saving your collagen and working fast (it darkens you in a few hours).

c) Tanning bed
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Tanning beds give the most natural tan and the effect is instant but that's where their list of pros end. Other than that the UV rays coming from the machines are horrible for your skin, leading to wrinkles over long term and lost of collagen plus they are pricy to use too. Only use one if you need to get a tan as soon as possible and have no other option otherwise.

III. Facial & body hair removal
Non permanent hair removal

a) Epilating
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By far the best non permanent hair removal method. Originally women use it as it provides 2-6 weeks of baby smooth skin after one session, but don't let this fool you, if anything it makes more sense for men to use it despite your average normie calling this method faggot. The only downside of it is that it's painful as fuck for the first sessions as the machine works by tearing your hair follicles out of your skin, one by one (it doesn't cause any skin irriation tho). I recommend to use it in the shower with shower cream as the added lotion prevents pain.

b) Waxing
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Works the same way as an epilator does, by removing your hair follicles altogether. A bit less painful than epilating, but it's much more expensive on the long run since it's not a one time purchase, you will have to keep buying waxing tapes or go to a professional.

c) Shaving
By far the shittiest method to remove facial &body hair as it only does so with the part above your skin, which means you will constantly have to shave every few days.
Something like a Philips Bodygroom Series body hair removal device provides fast, painless altough half assed results:
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If you don't posses any of those for whatever reaso, at least use a safety razor instead of cartridge (as it's a lot cheaper and the single blade means less skin irriation). Be sure to use a non alcoholic aftershave balm afterwards.
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Permanent hair removal

a) Electrolysis
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The most effective yet by far the most expensive and time consuming permanent hair removal method, which works on all skin tones, on all body parts. It removes hair one by one by destroying their growth center with heat. After a very fine probe is inserted into the hair follicle and the hair is removed with tweezers.

b) Laser hair removal
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Laser treatment affects hair in the active growth phase (anagen stage). The laser beam is made up of precisely controlled pulses of energy which are absorbed by the melanin or pigment in the hair, reaching into the active hair follicles that lie beneath the skin. Essentially, the energy heats the hair – right down to the bottom of the root – safely destroying it without damaging surrounding tissue or skin. Most people will need a course of between six and eight sessions, after which time the hair will be visibly reduced or permanently removed and the skin will appear smooth and even. Cheaper than electrolysis and each session is only like half an hour.

c) Intense Pulsed Light (IPL)
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In contrast to laser hair removal it uses a broad spectrum of light with multiple wavelengths. This means it has more unfocused energy around the hair and skin area.” So, IPL uses multi-spectrum lights whereas laser use single spectrum light, “meaning IPL energy is scattered and much weaker. Laser has a densified light, and all energy is focused on this single light. Spectrum lights are measured as wavelength (nm), for example, 755nm wavelength means this spectrum light can penetrate 755nm deep beneath the skin. 755nm wavelength light is best attracted to melanin, so it is best used for hair removal. 532nm means light can reach up to 532nm beneath the skin.

When used for hair removal specifically, IPL usually requires six to eight treatments to see a complete removal of hair in an area. This is dependent, however, on the person's skin colour, hair colour and also the thickness of the hair. IPL technology works best on very light skin combined with dark hair (vampire pheno):
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IPL is by far the least effective out of the permanent hair removal methods but it's the cheapest and most avaible one as you can buy your own IPL device yourself and do it at home if you want to.
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IV. Makeup for men
Blemish Balm (BB)
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BB is like a a skin tone tinted moisturiser with extra benefits. These multitasking products can correct redness and discolouration, conceal spots and scars, smooth fine lines and wrinkles, brighten and moisturise, and protect with sun protection filters. They’re practical too, and easier to carry around than the combined products they can sub for: moisturiser, sun screen, concealer. Basically, BBs are a lighter, more man-friendly version of foundation. Make sure to choose one that fits your natural skin tone as close as possible.

Concealer
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Helps cover dark circles, blemishes, scars, and other imperfections of the face. Using your (clean) finger, take a little bit of concealer from the pot and dot onto any areas you'd like to cover. Remember, a little goes a long way and you can always add more if needed. Using your finger or a slightly damp Face Sponge, blend the concealer by tapping it lightly until it's completely blended in. When blending concealer in, tap the product in rather than dragging it. Use your fourth finger for the lightest touch. Also take care to smooth out any concealer sitting in creases under the eyes. As with BB cream, try to purchase one that fits your skin color.

Contouring
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Personally I haven't tried it, but I am aware of the fact the along with a shitton of filters and digital photo manipulation, prettyboys and models on social media use contouring all the time in order for their face to look more angular and chiselled using different shades of products. Do it at your own will, I personally wouldn't risk getting caught with it irl as my cheeks are decent as they are. I would consider using it when taking photos to post on social media tho.

Regardless of what makeup products you use don't forget to wash it off before going to bed as leaving stuff on your face can lead to irriation and acne breakouts if not careful.


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high effort good thread OP
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One there is a common miscomception that the Sun is bad. The sun is actually good for collagen production. The real issue is lack of sun, toxic lifestyles, xenoestrogens, and PUFAS/processed crap and oils.
are there any studies comparing the skin age of southern and northern europeans at certain ages? people in nordic countries, that barely get any sun during the year, look just as shit as the ones from southern europe, if not even worse at the same age.

i think the people that truly mastered skin-care are the koreans and we should strive to adapt their skin-care routines, which still include sun-screen, along side a lot of other components
 
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Red light lamp
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Use a red light lamp once or twice a week for 15 minutes by looking at it with your face from 60-70 cm (use sunglasses to protect your eyes). The wattage doesn't really matter but the wavelength of the light should be around 670nm. It increases blood flow, helps with acne, collagen production, elasticity and improves mitochondrial function.
Where to get?
@kjsbdfiusdf @xefo @CupOfCoffee @bobby which do you use?
 
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I experimented around a lot with carotenoids the months before writing this thread and my observations are the following:

- Takin beta carotene alone will make you yellow. Not orange, plain yellow (in fact my mom commented on how I looked like a Chinese lately when I visited her while I was only taking beta carotene)
- Tried the same thing with lycopene and I became weirdly red, looking like I was constanly blushed
- Combined both and got caramel toned, orange skin tone; but:

I'm starting to realize that the key with all things vitamin A related (be it carotenoids, retin A or liver) is building up a deposit in your body, since it's a fat solluble vitamin, meaning it gets stored in your fat tissue. I had very modest (at best) results with beta carotene when I first started taking it daily at 25 000 IU. Then when I did 100 000 IU / day for 2 weeks my skin became orange and have been since, despite cutting back the daily dose back to 25 000 IU since then.
Spot on on the deposit thing.


Beta carotene is shit, and will age your skin because it is stored near skin, and the Beta Carotene is an Unsaturated molecule and this very easily oxidisable
 
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mega tier post
I will be experimenting with beta carotene and I look forward to posting about it.
should a 16-year-old be using tretinoin, my skin is very good because I've been on Accutane but would the improved collagen help
with long-term skin health?
 
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I experimented around a lot with carotenoids the months before writing this thread and my observations are the following:

- Takin beta carotene alone will make you yellow. Not orange, plain yellow (in fact my mom commented on how I looked like a Chinese lately when I visited her while I was only taking beta carotene)
- Tried the same thing with lycopene and I became weirdly red, looking like I was constanly blushed
- Combined both and got caramel toned, orange skin tone; but:

I'm starting to realize that the key with all things vitamin A related (be it carotenoids, retin A or liver) is building up a deposit in your body, since it's a fat solluble vitamin, meaning it gets stored in your fat tissue. I had very modest (at best) results with beta carotene when I first started taking it daily at 25 000 IU. Then when I did 100 000 IU / day for 2 weeks my skin became orange and have been since, despite cutting back the daily dose back to 25 000 IU since then.
So what, you would not recommend using retin-A every day or what, I didn't get it:feelswah:
 
mega tier post
I will be experimenting with beta carotene and I look forward to posting about it.
should a 16-year-old be using tretinoin, my skin is very good because I've been on Accutane but would the improved collagen help
with long-term skin health?
At 16 I wouldn't hop on tret yet as collagen production only starts to decrease after like 20 yo (@TsarTsar444 ?), especially not if you have good skin because of Accutane use
 
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Would u recommend to take beta carotene and astaxanthin for dark skin tones. I don't want the darkening effect but I want the undertones.
 
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Do you apply SPF after using tret before going to bed too? or only when waking up
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At 16 I wouldn't hop on tret yet as collagen production only starts to decrease after like 20 yo (@TsarTsar444 ?), especially not if you have good skin because of Accutane use
Yeah its dumb af and useless, collagen only begins to go down at 21 at the earliest, so before 21 skincare is a meme jfl
 
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Just ordered red light mate, after that i got everything to have mogger skin, mirin thread​

 
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Yeah its dumb af and useless, collagen only begins to go down at 21 at the earliest, so before 21 skincare is a meme jfl
I fucked my skin up @ a young age from chain smoking, retin a helped a shit ton at that mate :feelskek::feelskek:
 
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Top top tier thread. Obviously bookmarked, mods pin this: @Kingkellz @Gargantuan @Master @tyronelite.

I disagree with the SPF and the neurotegena, shit retin a. One there is a common miscomception that the Sun is bad. The sun is actually good for collagen production. The real issue is lack of sun, toxic lifestyles, xenoestrogens, and PUFAS/processed crap and oils.

Retin-A thins the epidermis of the skin and has some sides too.

Beef liver+improving the health and removing gallstones of the liver & gut, improving health overall is key for skincare. If you eat an optimal diet+low stress you will have beautiful undertones, collagen, elastin, hair and skin, etc.

Also cage at the makeup section, needs no explanation, pure faggotry delete that part imo.

Otherwise solid thread, haven't seen such in this forum in awhile. Bookmarked. Hopefully we get more from you like this in the future

Keep it up!👍
how about red light therapy?
 
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I fucked my skin up @ a young age from chain smoking, retin a helped a shit ton at that mate :feelskek::feelskek:
Did it at least deepen your voice?

I have a friend who has been chainsmoking since we were 14 and at this point he has Vin Diesel tier voice :lul:
 
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Did it at least deepen your voice?

I have a friend who has been chainsmoking since we were 14 and at this point he has Vin Diesel tier voice :lul:

My voice is 60-70 hz, ive been told i sound like a fucking bulgarian drug dealer mate, im sure cigs helped out a bit :feelskek:

 
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is vitamin a stored in the body or peed out like vitamin c? would one beef liver a week be enough?
 
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Would u recommend to take beta carotene and astaxanthin for dark skin tones. I don't want the darkening effect but I want the undertones.
For sure I only take beta carotene + lycopene rn without darkening my skin, to have orange undertone

Don’t buy astaxanthin tho as it doesn’t affect skin tone (but is a very powerful antioxidant).
 
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is vitamin a stored in the body or peed out like vitamin c? would one beef liver a week be enough?
It gets stored and accumulates since it’s a fat solluble vitamin like vitamin D, E and K (vitamin C on the other hand is water solluble which means you pee out the excess as you said).

Do you mean like a whole beef liver? Cuz those are heavy , what like 10-15 lbs each? Way too much for a weekly dosage. If I had to guess I eat probably around 2-3 lbs of liver a week and thats more than enough
 
How to remove concealer, just wash?
 
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Why are you wary of micro needling? What bar things have you heard?

does it also apply for the scalp and not the face?
 
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So is laser hair removale permanent or or not?

i have back hair that I need to destroy for ever
 
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Why are you wary of micro needling? What bar things have you heard?

does it also apply for the scalp and not the face?
I am mostly against it because most guys reading this thread would perhaps try to do it themselves, which can easily lead to infections and permanent scarring. The face is the most important bodypart and you only get one, so better not gamble with it

I am less so against it if we are talking about getting it done by a professional who actually knows what he/she is doing tho
 
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So is laser hair removale permanent or or not?

i have back hair that I need to destroy for ever
From my research there are three types of outcomes for laser hair removal depending on the person:

a) hair permanently gets removed
b) hair gets removed but regrows weaker several years later
c) hair doesn’t get removed but significantly weakens

I won’t promise you anything but thankfully most guys fall into category a)
 
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From my research there are three types of outcomes for laser hair removal depending on the person:

a) hair permanently gets removed
b) hair gets removed but regrows weaker several years later
c) hair doesn’t get removed but significantly weakens

I won’t promise you anything but thankfully most guys fall into category a)
Mh I am not sure but I also heard that hair regrowths after some time if you are not that old

so maybe invest in electrolysis straight away

or just keep grinding with Epilating
 
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Mh I am not sure but I also heard that hair regrowths after some time if you are not that old
Yep that’s also a factor that needs to be kept in mind. The younger you are, the more likely outcome b) is to happen

so maybe invest in electrolysis straight away
That’s the best option but also the priciest and slowest, not many young guys can afford it and even if they can other hardmaxxes might enjoy priority over it
or just keep grinding with Epilating
That’s what I’m doing for now. I heard anecdotes of it weakening or completely killing hair regrowth on the long run and although I haven’t been using my epilator for a long time, I can already give some merit to this theory
 
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Microneedling missed
 
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Yep that’s also a factor that needs to be kept in mind. The younger you are, the more likely outcome b) is to happen


That’s the best option but also the priciest and slowest, not many young guys can afford it and even if they can other hardmaxxes might enjoy priority over it

That’s what I’m doing for now. I heard anecdotes of it weakening or completely killing hair regrowth on the long run and although I haven’t been using my epilator for a long time, I can already give some merit to this theory
Y also my thought sadly need to save up for other hardmaxxes but in the future I will look into electrolysis

so you keep yourself hairless just with epilating?
 
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But your beard you shave normally without epilating it right?
I epilate that one too, biweekly

I left shaving behind altogether as it caused me skin irritation and the baby smooth skin lasted very short compared to epilating (weeks in the latter's case)
 
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I epilate that one too, biweekly

I left shaving behind altogether as it caused me skin irritation and the baby smooth skin lasted very short compared to epilating (weeks in the latter's case)
But don’t you have the problem with ingrown hair with epilating too?
 
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But don’t you have the problem with ingrown hair with epilating too?
I frankly don't, I avoid ingrown hairs by exfoliating beforehand, using the epilator in shower with shower gel as added lotion and by always focusing on holding the epilator perpendicular to my skin while using it
 
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mirin your knowledge bro

with tret i put on whenever it’s dark wait around 30 min then moisturise, seen that’s how the doctors suggest doing it, is that the way to go in your opinion?
 
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mirin your knowledge bro

with tret i put on whenever it’s dark wait around 30 min then moisturise, seen that’s how the doctors suggest doing it, is that the way to go in your opinion?

Mirin' his knowledge because he's got a cartoonised pretty boy in his avvy and names himself pretty boy

The halo effect effecting men on here like it would bitches lmao. Too much estrogen streaming through you pussboys

This shit is sprayed all over the forum you stupid fuck. Go visit the best of the best section
 
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Mirin' his knowledge because he's got a cartoonised pretty boy in his avvy and names himself pretty boy

The halo effect effecting men on here like it would bitches lmao. Too much estrogen streaming through you pussboys

This shit is sprayed all over the forum you stupid fuck. Go visit the best of the best section
stop roasting people bro, if you’re mad go jump off a bridge or something
 
stop roasting people bro, if you’re mad go jump off a bridge or something

 
i’ve gone through it before man lol

just interested to know if i’m applying retin properly

whether or not op got some knowledge from best of the best doesn’t really matter it was put together nicely
 
i’ve gone through it before man lol

just interested to know if i’m applying retin properly

whether or not op got some knowledge from best of the best doesn’t really matter it was put together nicely
Id like to know as well, but ive heard its best to let it sit 20min before moisturizing
 
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At night it's better to apply tretinoin before or after clean/moisturizer?
 
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Your a great guy, probably first guy on this site I can respect lmfao. If i click watch threads that notifies me when you post yeah?
 
At night it's better to apply tretinoin before or after clean/moisturizer?
Tretinoin at night, wait 30 minutes then use a mosirurizer and go to bed. When you wake up use a cleanser. Bonus tip, use a sauna at some point in the day then mosirurize again while your pores are still open
 
What dosage
For sure I only take beta carotene + lycopene rn without darkening my skin, to have orange undertone

Don’t buy astaxanthin tho as it doesn’t affect skin tone (but is a very powerful antioxidant).
What dosage and frequency do you did for beta carotene?
 
@Prettyboy We all know this is not true

This literally goes against the first law of JBW

Pale white skin, combined with brown/black hair, is the highest smv skin color. There is a reason the superman pheno is considered the best.


Additionally tanning will make you age like shit.




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Clear white skin, coupled with brown/black hair and blue/green eyes for contrast, is a strikingly attractive feature
 
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