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I do not recommend you do this, but here I will explain what I did.
first and foremost, find out what you have, gynecomastia is an excess of glandular tissue directly underneath the nipple (although a small amount of it is normal, pictured in red below), it's often disc shaped once enlarged, this is not that, this is what is known as pseudo-gyno, it's caused by excess fat depositions around the nipple, it is fairly common and the 'ideal' chest has some degree of fat deposition in this area (pictured below in green)
it is not indicative of any hormonal complications, or drugs, the majority of men on the planet have some degree of it.
most people aren't lean enough to be able to see whether they have this, and this also isn't the only area that forms these kind of stubborn fat pockets, it's also possible to have them on the love handles, which is also extremely common, or the side of your chest, sometimes the middle, or the top, or the lower stomach.
that being said, what causes the appearance of it is often a combination of both glandular and adipose tissue, so there might still be some benefit to treating it as it will decrease the appearance regardless, if you have glandular tissue you will have to run a raloxifene protocol first.
what you need for it:
the product I used is called Aqualyx, this is a form of deoxycholic acid, there are many brands of this and they're all more or less the same, some cost more than others, the general price range of it is between 150 and 250 euros for 10 vials, and you'll only need one vial for this procedure, which means the entire thing costs about 15 to 25 euros excluding the needles, swaps and syringes, etc.
(the product)
this is a localized fat dissolver, meaning any fat it's put into goes through an inflammation process that removes it permanently, it's however a very slow process and can take weeks.
I used a 25G needle to draw the liquid (needle length doesn't matter dor drawing) into a 1ML syringe (with proper markers for the dosage) and a 31g 10mm needle to inject it which is the shortest interchangeable needle I was able to find, you want the injection needle to be as short as possible, the liquid only has to go about 5-7mm deep into your skin.
ideally you'd be using an insulin needle, but the issue with those is that they're stuck on the syringes most of the time which means you can't draw with them as it would blunt the needle and make the procedure needlessly painful.
you'll want a skin marker to evenly mark the spots you'll be injecting, and alcohol swaps to disinfect them.
the procedure:
this is the before, as you can see the skin surrounding my nipple is quite puffy, which is strange because you never really see this in the pictures I post, this is because it doesn't show unless I push it to the side, the fat just stretches in a neutral chest position, but you can see it from a specific angle when I flex my arms for example, that is what I had to do to take these pictures.
(picture before injection)
the amount I used was 0.2 ml, I loaded 8 syringes with this, the reasoning behind this is that it's quite hard to pay attention to the amount you're putting in when you're injecting it into yourself in the mirror, and the angle of the injection doesn't help with it either, by doing this all you need to do is push the needle in and press it down until it's empty.
(needles, 1ml syringes, 31g, 10mm needles)
another disclaimer, it will burn for about 10-30 minutes once it's injected, it's not that painful though, but you'll have to inject one side of your chest while the other is burning, alternatively you could just wait a bit until it goes down, it shouldn't make any difference in the results, but it'll feel very strange.
be careful with veins, mark them if needed, but rest assured it doesn't cause occlusions like cosmetic fillers do, if it were to get into your blood it'll simply dissolve, it also doesn't matter if you nick them slightly, I had to maneuver around some veins on one side of my chest.
I injected 0.2 in the top, sides, and bottom.
(injection location markers)
once the substance is in your chest it'll start to swell, the swelling lasts for about 3-4 days, it won't hinder you in your daily activities, but it'll look bad, so preferably do this in the winter when you're able to wear something thick to cover it.
avoid working out your chest for about 24-48 hours after the injection, it won't bother you much during other workouts, I did bicep curls the same day, and t-bar rows the day after, so the down-time is non-existent if you plan accordingly, I didn't feel it at all when I worked out my chest 3 days later.
(picture of the swelling)
now for the results.
it'll take about a week to see the first improvements, and they're going to be noticeable after a week and a half depending on the amount of fat you're treating, the more you have the harder it'll be to see it.
the full results take 3-4 weeks, the most significant discomfort is gone after a few days, but some of it remains for a week or more, and as long as the compound is active you'll feel a slight amount of inflammation when you squeeze it, although it's very minor.
(results, as you can see the fat deposition is entirely gone)
