Hair Health

[maxxella]

Just purchased year supply of 2.5mg minoxidil tablets, to clarify am I to be on this for the rest of my life? Also, should I incorporate topical minoxidil as well for more local effect on my hairline?

 

[norwoodnegative]

You’ll need to be on minox the rest of your life if you want to keep the gains. Even post hair transplant if you plan to eventually go that route. You can supplement with topical if you want but it’s probably a waste; 2.5 oral daily is more than enough for regrowth, and most people won’t respond well to topical regardless (again, even if you do the oral is more than enough).

Here is a semi-related study about overlapping the two that essentially says it makes no difference. Rep and mark solution buddy boyo.

 

[maxxella]

You’ll need to be on minox the rest of your life if you want to keep the gains. Even post hair transplant if you plan to eventually go that route. You can supplement with topical if you want but it’s probably a waste; 2.5 oral daily is more than enough for regrowth, and most people won’t respond well to topical regardless (again, even if you do the oral is more than enough).

Here is a semi-related study about overlapping the two that essentially says it makes no difference. Rep and mark solution buddy boyo.

I see, what can you comment on it's potential sides? I heard bad things, I heard good things and I'm kinda inbetween it all. I'm most concerned about the potential bloat from it, also do you think I should incorporate topical finasteride or RU58841 aswell on my hairlien?

 

[norwoodnegative]

I see, what can you comment on it's potential sides? I heard bad things, I heard good things and I'm kinda inbetween it all. I'm most concerned about the potential bloat from it, also do you think I should incorporate topical finasteride or RU58841 aswell on my hairlien?

I’ve not personally taken oral, I use a compounded formula of topical minoxidil and finasteride along with a ketoconazole shampoo every other day. From what I can tell the heart sides are exceedingly rare as long as your heart isn’t already fucked going into it, and the bloating is 50/50 and easily fixed with a diuretic.

If you have true MPB you need to be taking finasteride or another 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, it’s mandatory. Minoxidil promote growth but it won’t stop further loss like fin, dut, ru will. Finasteride is enough for most to stop balding so I’d hold off on anything more extreme (dut, ru) until you try fin.

 

[norwoodnegative]

I see, what can you comment on it's potential sides? I heard bad things, I heard good things and I'm kinda inbetween it all. I'm most concerned about the potential bloat from it, also do you think I should incorporate topical finasteride or RU58841 aswell on my hairlien?

Read this thread for more in depth info

 

[maxxella]

Read this thread for more in depth info

Hey I read this, and ended up with this; https://hairrepairclinic.co.uk/products/custom-topical-solution/configure

It's finasteride (0.025% I think I will choose) in TrichoSol which isn't exactly as good as liposomal/ethosomal but significantly better than most widely available mixtures, and I can mix in 0.01% tretinoin aswell.

There's also an option to pair it with some minoxidil so it's all in one, would this be a wise option or just stick to the fin/tret together and take oral min seperately?

 

[norwoodnegative]

Hey I read this, and ended up with this; https://hairrepairclinic.co.uk/products/custom-topical-solution/configure

It's finasteride (0.025% I think I will choose) in TrichoSol which isn't exactly as good as liposomal/ethosomal but significantly better than most widely available mixtures, and I can mix in 0.01% tretinoin aswell.

There's also an option to pair it with some minoxidil so it's all in one, would this be a wise option or just stick to the fin/tret together and take oral min seperately?

The tret increases available sulfotransferase in the scalp which is the enzyme necessary to convert topical minoxidil to its active form, so if you’re worried about oral minoxidil but have the option to use tret + topical I’d say it’s worth a shot. Studies have shown that 40% of topical minoxidil non responders become responders when used in conjunction with tretinoin. 40-60% of pop. responds to topical minoxidil so worst case when using topical minoxidil with tretinoin you have a 64% chance of good response. (1 - (.6 * .6) = 0.64) In the best case, 76% chance (1 - (.4 * .6)).

 

[maxxella]

The tret increases available sulfotransferase in the scalp which is the enzyme necessary to convert topical minoxidil to its active form, so if you’re worried about oral minoxidil but have the option to use tret + topical I’d say it’s worth a shot. Studies have shown that 40% of topical minoxidil non responders become responders when used in conjunction with tretinoin. 40-60% of pop. responds to topical minoxidil so worst case when using topical minoxidil with tretinoin you have a 64% chance of good response. (1 - (.6 * .6) = 0.64) In the best case, 76% chance (1 - (.4 * .6)).

Thanks for the high IQ response, but I also plan to use accutane, just 10mg daily alongside all this for better skin. Would you say it's risky to take accutane and use tretinoin at the same time?

 

[norwoodnegative]

Yes I would that will probably dry tf out of your scalp.

Thanks for the high IQ response, but I also plan to use accutane, just 10mg daily alongside all this for better skin. Would you say it's risky to take accutane and use tretinoin at the same time?

 

[maxxella]

Yes I would that will probably dry tf out of your scalp.

So how about I skip tretinoin all together, take fin topically by itself, oral minox and run accutane on the side. works? another option would be to mix the minoxidil with the fin but as you said, may not yield desired results

 

[norwoodnegative]

So how about I skip tretinoin all together, take fin topically by itself, oral minox and run accutane on the side. works? another option would be to mix the minoxidil with the fin but as you said, may not yield desired results

Yeah that protocol should work well. Topical finasteride works well in my experience, the oral minoxidil will guarantee response and you should be able to take it with accutane.

 

[maxxella]

Yeah that protocol should work well. Topical finasteride works well in my experience, the oral minoxidil will guarantee response and you should be able to take it with accutane.

Appreciate it friend.

 

[fajitapocketpxsyy]

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[maxxella]

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Because of Oral Minoxidil's effect on the heart?

 

[fajitapocketpxsyy]

Because of Oral Minoxidil's effect on the heart?

Yes cretin you Alr with that?

 

[maxxella]

Yes cretin you Alr with that?

Doubt anything will happen on 2.5mg, I'm a healthy individual with no prior health issues.

 

[maxxella]

Yes cretin you Alr with that?

However if you wouldn't mind I would like to hear your take on it in depth if you have time. Thanks in advance

 

[fajitapocketpxsyy]

However if you wouldn't mind I would like to hear your take on it in depth if you have time. Thanks in advance

Before you are FORCED to admit your entire life to this one pharmaceutical I think you should research Different methods of maintaining the volume of your hair, due to its long term affects on ur Cardiovascular

 

[maxxella]

Before you are FORCED to admit your entire life to this one pharmaceutical I think you should research Different methods of maintaining the volume of your hair, due to its long term affects on ur Cardiovascular

I understand, I am not a big fan of the thought of being on something forever to be honest. Would topical be a better option?

 

[maxxella]

Before you are FORCED to admit your entire life to this one pharmaceutical I think you should research Different methods of maintaining the volume of your hair, due to its long term affects on ur Cardiovascular

Could you yourself suggest any alternative methods?

 

[fajitapocketpxsyy]

Could you yourself suggest any alternative methods?

I understand, I am not a big fan of the thought of being on something forever to be honest. Would topical be a better option?

I couldn’t and Yes it would but it’s still going to have to be constant

 

[maxxella]

I couldn’t and Yes it would but it’s still going to have to be constant

I see.
Yes, but then it wouldn't have a potential negative impact towards my CVH or Heart as you say.