Hair loss at 15.

[DR. NICKGA]

that wont do anything in his case since he will still lose hair follicles art a faster rate then produce,sadly he either goes bald and accepts it or hops on fin/dut and probobly wont grow a sinle inch after that

i wanna say smh

you got two choices if the bald reaper got you
1. You go bald and be ugly and cope.. or
2. You will castrate yourself with fin and destroy you whole body , but hey you got hair!

even if you beat the bald reaper, he still always win

also balding is linked to heart dissease"s, big prostate , aging and all other big top 10 dissease"s in the body and 10000x worse if you got it young

iTsss over

 

[Deleted member 32954]

View attachment 2555171View attachment 2555173 this is the fortnite streamer mongraal on left he was 15,probs similar to you and on right 18 this is probobly exactly the same transformation as you will go to unless your on a dht blocker and your already tall the choice is up to you

Ok, then what is the best out of the three: dutasteride, finasteride, and RU-58841? And for the best one, what should I know going into taking it?

 

[finn899]

i wanna say smh

you got two choices if the bald reaper got you
1. You go bald and be ugly and cope.. or
2. You will castrate yourself with fin and destroy you whole body , but hey you got hair!

even if you beat the bald reaper, he still always win

also balding is linked to bad heart, big prostate , aging and all other big top 10 dissease"s in the body and 10000x worse if you got it young

iTsss over

what you said is true but its better then doing nothing

 

[FutureSlayer]

destroying 80% of a male hormone will get no side effects? Fool

you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about

 

[finn899]

Ok, then what is the best out of the three: dutasteride, finasteride, and RU-58841? And for the best one, what should I know going into taking it?

you have to research bro its kinda complicated but you need to take dua and minoxidil but as we said norwood 2 at 15 may be impossible to beat

 

[Deleted member 32954]

i wanna say smh

you got two choices if the bald reaper got you
1. You go bald and be ugly and cope.. or
2. You will castrate yourself with fin and destroy you whole body , but hey you got hair!

even if you beat the bald reaper, he still always win

also balding is linked to heart dissease"s, big prostate , aging and all other big top 10 dissease"s in the body and 10000x worse if you got it young

iTsss over

"Although a relationship has been established between finasteride and sexual dysfunction in the literature, the analysis of the role of androgens in male sexual function and the evidences from large population-based long-term placebo-controlled studies using validated questionnaire and objective method for assessing sexual function suggested no substantial evidence of ED in men receiving finasteride. Low ejaculatory volume is the only causal relationship between finasteride and sexual dysfunction."

Finasteride-Its Impact on Sexual Function and Prostate Cancer

Finasteride, a specific and competitive inhibitor of 5α-reductase enzyme Type 2, inhibits the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). In adults, DHT acts as primary androgen in prostate and hair follicles. The only FDA-approved ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Isn't 50-100 a day normal? At least from what I see in a quick google search: https://innovist.com/blogs/all/hair-loss-in-teenagers#:~:text=Teenagers can lose between 40,a sign of health issues.

Mostly sedentary, though I get at least 20 minutes of activity per day. Diet is somewhat clean ig.

Are you suggesting this is nutritional/lifestyle and not MPB? Lifefuel if true.

Probably not but I lose like 10 a shower at most after literally taking DHT boosters for PE relentlessly

 

[finn899]

"Although a relationship has been established between finasteride and sexual dysfunction in the literature, the analysis of the role of androgens in male sexual function and the evidences from large population-based long-term placebo-controlled studies using validated questionnaire and objective method for assessing sexual function suggested no substantial evidence of ED in men receiving finasteride. Low ejaculatory volume is the only causal relationship between finasteride and sexual dysfunction."

Finasteride-Its Impact on Sexual Function and Prostate Cancer

Finasteride, a specific and competitive inhibitor of 5α-reductase enzyme Type 2, inhibits the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). In adults, DHT acts as primary androgen in prostate and hair follicles. The only FDA-approved ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

4 percent chance at getting erectile dysfunction and out of all them once you stop they nearly all go away,or 100 percent guarenteed you will be bald by 19 which one is better?

 

[Deleted member 32954]

4 percent chance at getting erectile dysfunction and out of all them once you stop they nearly all go away,or 100 percent guarenteed you will be bald by 19 which one is better?

Hair obv, but this seems too abductive to be true. There has to be a reason why no one else is taking fin or any other DHT-blocker under 18.

 

[FutureSlayer]

Hair obv, but this seems too abductive to be true. There has to be a reason why no one else is taking fin or any other DHT-blocker under 18.

Nobody goes bald under 18, plain simple

 

[Deleted member 31459]

It's not super aggressive, I've only noticed it within the past 2 weeks. I shed about 10-15 hair each time I shower. Maybe 30-40 a day.

Can I just roll + minox until it's safe to hop on DHT blocker?

yeah, hell u could even just wait it out til 18 when u can get legally prescribed those things

 

[Deleted member 32954]

Nobody goes bald under 18, plain simple

I found this excerpt from bluepill.com which seems promising:

Answer: Finasteride use in 18 year olds? Englewood Cliffs New Jersey​

In my opinion, finasteride is appropriate to treat an 18 year old with male pattern hair loss. The primary location for activity of finasteride is in the scalp and the prostate. This means that the conversion of testosterone to DHT which occurs in these organs is decreased. In fact, the amount of testosterone in the blood is increased. Finasteride has been used in adolescents to treat hidradenitis suppurativa. No side effects were noted. Therefore, with the exception of the occasionally reported sexual side effects, finasteride is indicated in an 18 year old male with documented male pattern hair loss. Good luck.

Are the effects of lowering your DHT as an 18 year old with the use of finasteride known?

I would think as an 18 year old male that lowering a male hormone like this will definitely change how they mature. Has this been studied or do doctors jus...

www.realself.com

 

[FutureSlayer]

I found this excerpt from bluepill.com which seems promising:

Answer: Finasteride use in 18 year olds? Englewood Cliffs New Jersey​

In my opinion, finasteride is appropriate to treat an 18 year old with male pattern hair loss. The primary location for activity of finasteride is in the scalp and the prostate. This means that the conversion of testosterone to DHT which occurs in these organs is decreased. In fact, the amount of testosterone in the blood is increased. Finasteride has been used in adolescents to treat hidradenitis suppurativa. No side effects were noted. Therefore, with the exception of the occasionally reported sexual side effects, finasteride is indicated in an 18 year old male with documented male pattern hair loss. Good luck.

Are the effects of lowering your DHT as an 18 year old with the use of finasteride known?

I would think as an 18 year old male that lowering a male hormone like this will definitely change how they mature. Has this been studied or do doctors jus...

www.realself.com

I still would not suppress dht under 20 yo if no visible recession is noted

 

[finn899]

yeah, hell u could even just wait it out til 18 when u can get legally prescribed those things

are you aware if somebody is norwood 2 by 15 they will be norwood 5 100 percent by 18 if they do nothing until then?

 

[Deleted member 32954]

I still would not suppress dht under 20 yo if no visible recession is noted

I've literally been told that I have a bad hairline/receding by a friend, and my mom who usually calms me down out of being a hypochondriac has agreed with me.

 

[FutureSlayer]

I've literally been told that I have a bad hairline/receding by a friend, and my mom who usually calms me down out of being a hypochondriac has agreed with me.

yea in ur case I would have instantly acted, I mean, I’m on duta just for prevention, but waited till I was 19/20 in doing so

 

[bradpittshairline]

if you‘re receding, you probably completed your development phase by years, so absolutely start duta asap

this is not true OP don't listen to this BS, DHT is needed for male sexual development so don't start fin before 20-21 but by all means go ahead with it when you're that age and get a transplant

 

[FutureSlayer]

this is not true OP don't listen to this BS, DHT is needed for male sexual development so don't start fin before 20-21 but by all means go ahead with it when you're that age and get a transplant

he’ll be fully bald by then

 

[bradpittshairline]

Is this safe at 15? It doesn't seem to have as many sides if at all as either of them.

no lol its not safe at any age its a literal research drug people buy from china

 

[bradpittshairline]

he’ll be fully bald by then

he wont, he will most likely have his current hairline but lost his temples which isn't that big of a trade off considering his dad is bald, then:
> starts fin at 20-21
> if hairline is bad, spends $3000 in Turkey/S Korea at a non hair mill Hair Transplant Clinic
> stays on fin for the rest of his life
>maintains that hairline for as long as he stays on fin

 

[Deleted member 31459]

are you aware if somebody is norwood 2 by 15 they will be norwood 5 100 percent by 18 if they do nothing until then?

Unlike at 18 he’s in the middle of puberty where he actually needs DHT

 

[FutureSlayer]

no lol its not safe at any age its a literal research drug people buy from china

it’s topical btw, doesnt go systemic

 

[bradpittshairline]

it’s topical btw, doesnt go systemic

it does go systemic

 

[Deleted member 32954]

it’s topical btw, doesnt go systemic

He's right, sort of. Eventually it will go systemic but that will be after a while of using it.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

"Although a relationship has been established between finasteride and sexual dysfunction in the literature, the analysis of the role of androgens in male sexual function and the evidences from large population-based long-term placebo-controlled studies using validated questionnaire and objective method for assessing sexual function suggested no substantial evidence of ED in men receiving finasteride. Low ejaculatory volume is the only causal relationship between finasteride and sexual dysfunction."

Finasteride-Its Impact on Sexual Function and Prostate Cancer

Finasteride, a specific and competitive inhibitor of 5α-reductase enzyme Type 2, inhibits the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). In adults, DHT acts as primary androgen in prostate and hair follicles. The only FDA-approved ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

woah , you wanted to use studie"s (created by fin company"s) to counterback me argument, okay i gonna do the same

finastride is also used for trans treatment (fin is a castrate drug, every castrate drug get you hair back) the company behind it also did some jewish scary stuff behind it..

fin also do more scary things then only blocking dht -> SUICIDE, DEPERSONALITION, ANXIETY https://finasterideinfo.org/merck-official-account-concealed-widespread-biochemical-impacts/

if you don"t think that destroying a androgen hormone don"t get any side effects then you are simple a idiot that know nothing
also the study you showed is ONLY NO SIDE EFFECTS FOR SEXUAL FUNCTION (probably not true also)

here i will use the same strategy like you:

Persistent sexual side effects of finasteride: could they be permanent? - PubMed

In most men who developed persistent sexual side effects (≥3 months) despite the discontinuation of finasteride, the sexual dysfunction continued for many months or years. Although several rat studies have shown detrimental changes to erectile function caused by 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Finasteride and Suicide: A Postmarketing Case Series - PubMed

Men under the age of 40 who use finasteride for alopecia are at risk for suicide if they develop persistent sexual adverse effects and insomnia. Further research is needed to establish whether finasteride has a causal relationship to suicide.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gut Inflammation Induced by Finasteride Withdrawal: Therapeutic Effect of Allopregnanolone in Adult Male Rats - PubMed

The treatment with finasteride (i.e., an inhibitor of 5α-reductase) may be associated with different side effects (i.e., depression, anxiety, cognitive impairment and sexual dysfunction) inducing the so-called post finasteride syndrome (PFS). Moreover, previous observations in PFS patients and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients - PubMed

Recent reports show that, in patients treated with finasteride for male pattern hair loss, persistent side effects including sexual side effects, depression, anxiety and cognitive complaints may occur. We here explored the psychiatric and andrological features of patients affected by...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Risk of Depression Associated With Finasteride Treatment - PubMed

The findings support a growing impression that finasteride is associated with adverse psychiatric effects that can persist in association with sexual dysfunction after discontinuing finasteride treatment.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i can send thousand studie"s

you guys are simple coping, You will never beat the norwood reaper, never

 

[FutureSlayer]

woah , you wanted to use studie"s (created by fin company"s) to counterback me argument, okay i gonna do the same

finastride is also used for trans treatment (fin is a castrate drug, every castrate drug get you hair back) the company behind it also did some jewish scary stuff behind it..

fin also do more scary things then only blocking dht -> SUICIDE, DEPERSONALITION, ANXIETY https://finasterideinfo.org/merck-official-account-concealed-widespread-biochemical-impacts/

if you don"t think that destroying a androgen hormone don"t get any side effects then you are simple a idiot that know nothing
also the study you showed is ONLY NO SIDE EFFECTS FOR SEXUAL FUNCTION (probably not true also)

but btw here the studie"s

Persistent sexual side effects of finasteride: could they be permanent? - PubMed

In most men who developed persistent sexual side effects (≥3 months) despite the discontinuation of finasteride, the sexual dysfunction continued for many months or years. Although several rat studies have shown detrimental changes to erectile function caused by 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Finasteride and Suicide: A Postmarketing Case Series - PubMed

Men under the age of 40 who use finasteride for alopecia are at risk for suicide if they develop persistent sexual adverse effects and insomnia. Further research is needed to establish whether finasteride has a causal relationship to suicide.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gut Inflammation Induced by Finasteride Withdrawal: Therapeutic Effect of Allopregnanolone in Adult Male Rats - PubMed

The treatment with finasteride (i.e., an inhibitor of 5α-reductase) may be associated with different side effects (i.e., depression, anxiety, cognitive impairment and sexual dysfunction) inducing the so-called post finasteride syndrome (PFS). Moreover, previous observations in PFS patients and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients - PubMed

Recent reports show that, in patients treated with finasteride for male pattern hair loss, persistent side effects including sexual side effects, depression, anxiety and cognitive complaints may occur. We here explored the psychiatric and andrological features of patients affected by...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i can send thousand studie"s

you guys are simple coping, You will never beat the norwood reaper, never

I’d advocate going bald makes you far more depressed than a soft dick

 

[bradpittshairline]

I’d advocate going bald makes you far more depressed than a soft dick

its a lottery, if fin works for u keep popping it. end of the day, it is a steroid

 

[FutureSlayer]

He's right, sort of. Eventually it will go systemic but that will be after a while of using it.

It’s not a steroid, how can it convey an anti androgen response in the blood? simply not possible.

Edit: talking about RU ofc

 

[Deleted member 33379]

Bro trust me. Dermaroll and rosemary oil with argan oil.

 

[finn899]

woah , you wanted to use studie"s (created by fin company"s) to counterback me argument, okay i gonna do the same

finastride is also used for trans treatment (fin is a castrate drug, every castrate drug get you hair back) the company behind it also did some jewish scary stuff behind it..

fin also do more scary things then only blocking dht -> SUICIDE, DEPERSONALITION, ANXIETY https://finasterideinfo.org/merck-official-account-concealed-widespread-biochemical-impacts/

if you don"t think that destroying a androgen hormone don"t get any side effects then you are simple a idiot that know nothing
also the study you showed is ONLY NO SIDE EFFECTS FOR SEXUAL FUNCTION (probably not true also)

here i will use the same strategy like you:

Persistent sexual side effects of finasteride: could they be permanent? - PubMed

In most men who developed persistent sexual side effects (≥3 months) despite the discontinuation of finasteride, the sexual dysfunction continued for many months or years. Although several rat studies have shown detrimental changes to erectile function caused by 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Finasteride and Suicide: A Postmarketing Case Series - PubMed

Men under the age of 40 who use finasteride for alopecia are at risk for suicide if they develop persistent sexual adverse effects and insomnia. Further research is needed to establish whether finasteride has a causal relationship to suicide.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gut Inflammation Induced by Finasteride Withdrawal: Therapeutic Effect of Allopregnanolone in Adult Male Rats - PubMed

The treatment with finasteride (i.e., an inhibitor of 5α-reductase) may be associated with different side effects (i.e., depression, anxiety, cognitive impairment and sexual dysfunction) inducing the so-called post finasteride syndrome (PFS). Moreover, previous observations in PFS patients and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients - PubMed

Recent reports show that, in patients treated with finasteride for male pattern hair loss, persistent side effects including sexual side effects, depression, anxiety and cognitive complaints may occur. We here explored the psychiatric and andrological features of patients affected by...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Risk of Depression Associated With Finasteride Treatment - PubMed

The findings support a growing impression that finasteride is associated with adverse psychiatric effects that can persist in association with sexual dysfunction after discontinuing finasteride treatment.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i can send thousand studie"s

you guys are simple coping, You will never beat the norwood reaper, never

only 5 mg of finasteride is linked to prostate cancer and prostate cancer is literally the most curable cancer there is and has nearly a 100 percent surivival rate,your the one coping nigga hair is life

 

[bradpittshairline]

It’s not a steroid, how can it convey an anti androgen response in the blood? simply not possible.

Edit: talking about RU ofc

i was talking about fin, but RU will go systematic u cant stop that

 

[FutureSlayer]

i was talking about fin, but RU will go systematic u cant stop that

how

 

[bradpittshairline]

how

gets absorbed

 

[FutureSlayer]

gets absorbed

it’s not a steroid

 

[bradpittshairline]

it’s not a steroid

what would u call it

 

[baboon593]

shave your head and get a wig

 

[DHTrash]

finastride is also used for trans treatment (fin is a castrate drug, every castrate drug get you hair back) the company behind it also did some jewish scary stuff behind it..

>References studies by "transgender experts" and PFS affiliated researchers
JFL

It's not a castration drug. Direct testosterone blockers are. If it was then men on fin wouldn't be able to have children. There's countless of men who've been taking it for 15-20 years, and were still able to impregnate their partners.

 

[FutureSlayer]

>References studies by "transgender experts" and PFS affiliated researchers
JFL

It's not a castration drug. Direct testosterone blockers are. If it was then men on fin wouldn't be able to have children. There's countless of men who've been taking it for 15-20 years, and were still able to impregnate their partners.

it even boosts testosterone lmao my free test increased by 20% in my bloodwork

 

[lilxder2]

fix your health

@finn899 what do you suggest?

 

[finn899]

fix your health

@finn899 what do you suggest?

nah bro his hairloss is 'genetic' he was designed to lose all of his hair at 15 ITS OVER

 

[lilxder2]

nah bro his hairloss is 'genetic' he was designed to lose all of his hair at 15 ITS OVER

nigga be serious

 

[finn899]

nigga be serious

bro you disreguarded everything i said and now you belive me?

 

[lilxder2]

bro you disreguarded everything i said and now you belive me?

are you fucking kidding me I said like 10 times that I agree with you, I just gave counterexamples to show that there are exceptions to the rule because you literally ASKED for them???

 

[finn899]

are you fucking kidding me I said like 10 times that I agree with you, I just gave counterexamples to show that there are exceptions to the rule because you literally ASKED for them???

dms rq

 

[utter-ascension]

These people here are delusional .

I'd have started Fin/Dut at 14 if I could go back in time.

 

[Deleted member 38248]

I know, another hair loss thread. But this is extremely brutal, I'm almost NW2 at 15! My dad has a big forehead and thin hair, but he's almost 50. He started losing hair at ~20 yrs old. Most likely I inherited his genes. I'm receding at both temples, but especially on my left, and it's beginning to go up as well.

What do I do? Minox + Dermapen? Can I start Fin yet?

Please give serious replies, this sucks immensely and could take me from MTN to truecel status.

U need dht at a young age
Hop on finnasteride at like 21

 

[Deleted member 38248]

These people here are delusional .

I'd have started Fin/Dut at 14 if I could go back in time.

Retrd

 

[Deleted member 28722]

I started Duta as a NW1 at 19 yo, don’t listen to these fear mongering retards, sides are rare asf, preserve as much hair as you can

DHT is necessary. your hormones do keep developing no matter when u started puberty until 20-25. nuking dht with dut at 15 when your levels haven’t even reached their baseline will fuck tou up. no doubt about it. maybe read some actual research on this.

 

[Deleted member 28722]

These people here are delusional .

I'd have started Fin/Dut at 14 if I could go back in time.

no you wouldn’t have, because you would have turned into a little bitch. at 14 your levels haven’t even reached a baseline no matter what u think, no where near it. it’s essentially castrating yourself, and then because you nuked your dht during your development phase your hormones will never be to your genetic threshold, and this includes your testosteome because your hormones were being surpressed at 14. Fin also does damage genes in some way but more research is being done. anyways, fin should be started at 19<

 

[utter-ascension]

no you wouldn’t have, because you would have turned into a little bitch. at 14 your levels haven’t even reached a baseline no matter what u think, no where near it. it’s essentially castrating yourself, and then because you nuked your dht during your development phase your hormones will never be to your genetic threshold, and this includes your testosteome because your hormones were being surpressed at 14. Fin also does damage genes in some way but more research is being done. anyways, fin should be started at 19<

Most of the important parts of puberty were already finished by 14. At worst you'd just be delaying the finishing touches. Also I would have NUKED my dht with dut, leaving me young looking for much longer. With fin you'd still develop normally with 30% dht left.