Haven't been horny in weeks. Feel tired

[Deleted member 7509]

I have massive brain fog. Haven't been horny. Erections weak. Barely produce any cum. Depressed. Lost motivation in life.

Time to go check my T-levels? 18 btw, so giga over if low t

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Any way to raise them besides injecting?

 

[FascisstChad]

Lol, it’s over buddy boyo.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Nofap.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Lol, it’s over buddy boyo.

Never over tbh

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Nofap.

I haven't beat my meat in a week. I told you, I am not horny...

 

[germanlooks]

It’s over you transform into a woman. No turning back from that.
Just accept it. Fighting against the transition makes it only longer and more stressful

 

[Deleted member 7509]

It’s over you transform into a woman. No turning back from that.
Just accept it. Fighting against the transition makes it only longer and more stressful

Im lesbian then

 

[Deleted member 2968]

Just go out more and have any activity,if it doesnt help inject T

 

[intovoid]

>sleepmaxx
>vitamin D maxx
>zincmaxx

 

[BearBoy]

Could be puberty even after 18, since hormones are max at 21

But do you sleep good? you could be sleep deprived because this isnt normal, depression could be a cause

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Could be puberty even after 18, since hormones are max at 21

But do you sleep good? you could be sleep deprived because this isnt normal, depression could be a cause

I sleep very good. Better than ever in my life

 

[Seth Walsh]

I have massive brain fog. Haven't been horny. Erections weak. Barely produce any cum. Depressed. Lost motivation in life.

Time to go check my T-levels? 18 btw, so giga over if low t

Dopamine dysregulation.

Downregulated dopamine receptors -> inadequate mesocorticolimbic dopamine signalling -> inability to inhibit prolactin (via dopamine action) -> high prolactin levels suppressing gonadotropin releasing hormone in the hypothalamus

*High serum prolactin concentrations inhibit secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus, thereby decreasing the secretion of gonadotropins (luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone), and may also inhibit the action of gonadotropins on the gonads.*

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Dopamine dysregulation.

Downregulated dopamine receptors -> inadequate mesocorticolimbic dopamine signalling -> inability to inhibit prolactin (via dopamine action) -> high prolactin levels suppressing gonadotropin releasing hormone in the hypothalamus

*High serum prolactin concentrations inhibit secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus, thereby decreasing the secretion of gonadotropins (luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone), and may also inhibit the action of gonadotropins on the gonads.*

Alright, so I need to raise dopamine? I always feel good when my dopamine is high

 

[Seth Walsh]

Dopamine dysregulation.

Downregulated dopamine receptors -> inadequate mesocorticolimbic dopamine signalling -> inability to inhibit prolactin (via dopamine action) -> high prolactin levels suppressing gonadotropin releasing hormone in the hypothalamus

*High serum prolactin concentrations inhibit secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus, thereby decreasing the secretion of gonadotropins (luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone), and may also inhibit the action of gonadotropins on the gonads.*

Unironically do no fap, exercise a lot, sleep well, avoid hedonistic activities etc and see if your dopamine receptors upregulate over the next few weeks and you should feel better.

One way to test how you are doing in regards to dopamine receptor sensitivity is by monitoring your pleasure response (example: how good it feels getting in a hot bath or jacuzzi). If you feel a better pleasure response over time then you are tackling the cause which is a downgraded dopamine system causing feelings of anhedonia and subsequent low hormone levels, sex drive, eq, vigor etc.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Alright, so I need to raise dopamine? I always feel good when my dopamine is high

You need to sensitize your brain to dopamine again. You don't need to raise dopamine. You shouldn't have a problem with dopamine synthesis. I'd say your problem is with the actual receptors on your dopamine neurons, they've downregulated too much. Maybe you've been taking psychostims or indulging in hedonism or taking/doing something that's messing with your dopamine system. (ashwaghanda can even cause this)

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Unironically do no fap

I don't fap. Not horny

Exercise a lot

I do that. I swim. Makes me feel better but for a super short period of time

Sleep well

I sleep very good

Avoid hedonistic activities etc and see if your dopamine receptors upregulate over the next few weeks and you should feel better.

I don't do anything, just exist

One way to test how you are doing in regards to dopamine receptor sensitivity is by monitoring your pleasure response (example: how good it feels getting in a hot bath or jacuzzi).

I can't feel happy. I earned $6k today by chance/luck, and I didn't even feel happy. Just accepted the fact

If you feel a better pleasure response over time then you are tackling the cause which is a downgraded dopamine system causing feelings of anhedonia and subsequent low hormone levels, sex drive, eq, vigor etc.

Idk some slight progress lately. Still long way to go

 

[Seth Walsh]

You need to sensitize your brain to dopamine again. You don't need to raise dopamine. You shouldn't have a problem with dopamine synthesis. I'd say your problem is with the actual receptors on your dopamine neurons, they've downregulated too much. Maybe you've been taking psychostims or indulging in hedonism or taking/doing something that's messing with your dopamine system. (ashwaghanda can even cause this)

9 methyl beta carboline is the perfect drug for upregulating dopamine receptors and the integrity of dopaminergic neurons but I'm sure your case isn't that bad unless you were abusing adderall or something similar?

 

[Deleted member 7509]

You need to sensitize your brain to dopamine again. You don't need to raise dopamine. You shouldn't have a problem with dopamine synthesis. I'd say your problem is with the actual receptors on your dopamine neurons, they've downregulated too much. Maybe you've been taking psychostims or indulging in hedonism or taking/doing something that's messing with your dopamine system. (ashwaghanda can even cause this)

I have been taking psychostims, but I would be homeless if I don't. At least few hours boost few times a week helps me keep my life from falling apart.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

9 methyl beta carboline is the perfect drug for upregulating dopamine receptors and the integrity of dopaminergic neurons but I'm sure your case isn't that bad unless you were abusing adderall or something similar?

That's exactly what I was doing. Not really abusing, I take it 3-4 times a week

 

[Seth Walsh]

I have been taking psychostims, but I would be homeless if I don't. At least few hours boost few times a week helps me keep my life from falling apart.

concerta/ritalin ?

 

[Deleted member 7509]

concerta/ritalin ?

Vyvanse/Adderall

 

[reborn]

I haven't beat my meat in a week. I told you, I am not horny...

If you do not masturbate nor watch porn your horniness decreases dramatically. I deleted my porn collection like 2 weeks ago and I feel just like you. I am not horny at all. I am not missing it though.

 

[Seth Walsh]

That's exactly what I was doing. Not really abusing, I take it 3-4 times a week

That's why you have no sex drive and anhedonia. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

Be careful with whatever dose you're using especially if you're using them unprescribed because you might be killing dopaminergic neurons entirely and there isn't really a way to get them back. Also if you kill off too many you'll get parkinsons

 

[one job away]

I have massive brain fog. Haven't been horny. Erections weak. Barely produce any cum. Depressed. Lost motivation in life.

Time to go check my T-levels? 18 btw, so giga over if low t

All signs of depression. Not necessarily low t. I have the same issues from time to time. Sometimes a month without fapping even when I watch porn to get myself into the mood. I can barely think straight. Convos are like I’m not really there.


When I’m on the up my libido is high af

 

[Deleted member 7509]

That's why you have no sex drive and anhedonia. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

Be careful with whatever dose you're using especially if you're using them unprescribed because you might be killing dopaminergic neurons entirely and there isn't really a way to get them back. Also if you kill off too many you'll get parkinsons

I am prescribed, but I take double/triple dose since I don't feel regular daily dosage. That limits me to 10-15 uses a month since I get 30 a month.

I should stop tbh, this seems high iq. I haven't felt this way before starting. Few questions, since you are high IQ af and I didn't expect this level of intelligence on this forum tbh...

1) Is permanent damage done?

2) Any other tips on how to get back my dopamine receptors?

3) Is my T lowered because of it?

Tysm

 

[Seth Walsh]

Vyvanse/Adderall

Damn that's causing a direct dopamine release....

Nothing feels pleasurable because the dopamine release when you take the drug isn't associated with a stimulus or motive, so your brain can't feel pleasure the way it's supposed to because nothing trumps whenever you take the pill. Atleast lisdex is more timed-release. But amphetamines are causing direct dopamine release unlike methylphenidate which just blocks DAT and keeps dopamine in the synaptic cleft...

Look into 9-me-bc if you want to fix yourself.

I bet all feelings of "anticipatory pleasure" or "excitement" is gone?

Atleast you know the cause now.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Damn that's causing a direct dopamine release....

Nothing feels pleasurable because the dopamine release when you take the drug isn't associated with a stimulus or motive, so your brain can't feel pleasure the way it's supposed to because nothing trumps whenever you take the pill. Atleast lisdex is more timed-release. But amphetamines are causing direct dopamine release unlike methylphenidate which just blocks DAT and keeps dopamine in the synaptic cleft...

Look into 9-me-bc if you want to fix yourself.

I bet all feelings of "anticipatory pleasure" or "excitement" is gone?

Atleast you know the cause now.

Holy fuck. Anticipatory pleasure is exactly what kept my motivation going. I have zero now. You are so fucking right, wtf. You pinpointed the exact cause of my depression

 

[Deleted member 7509]

@Seth Walsh Can you PM me? Yours are locked, and I really need to talk to you.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I am prescribed, but I take double/triple dose since I don't feel regular daily dosage. That limits me to 10-15 uses a month since I get 30 a month.

I should stop tbh, this seems high iq. I haven't felt this way before starting. Few questions, since you are high IQ af and I didn't expect this level of intelligence on this forum tbh...

1) Is permanent damage done?

2) Any other tips on how to get back my dopamine receptors?

3) Is my T lowered because of it?

Tysm

No problem!

Your dopamine receptors exist on your dopaminergic neurons. The neurons can be killed off with amphetamine abuse especially if you're dosing high and frequently. Once the neurons die I'm not sure if they can ever be restored or if you can grow new ones somehow. Parkinson's disease is caused when too many dopaminergic neurons die.

As for the receptors, they're just downregulated and aren't sensitive to the action of dopamine anymore, since you're producing too much with the amphetamines. The receptors can be upregulated again though aslong as the neuron itself doesn't die.

The way to upregulate the receptor is by starving it of dopamine. Right now you're producing too much dopamine and your receptors are rejecting the action at the site, almost as if it's resistant to the dopamine. That's why you're not feeling good because your receptors just aren't working.

9-me-bc is a wonder drug in terms of upregulating dopamine receptors and bringing back your pleasure response. Also stopping all things which were causing the receptors to be over saturated with dopamine is something that needs to be done.

There's other hardcore methods like DA receptor antagonism with atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel which block the receptor site (so that it can upregulate faster). But I really dislike AA drugs and they come with a ton of nasty effects like weight gain and messes with some of the cytochrome P450 enzymes too

 

[Deleted member 7509]

No problem!

Your dopamine receptors exist on your dopaminergic neurons. The neurons can be killed off with amphetamine abuse especially if you're dosing high and frequently. Once the neurons die I'm not sure if they can ever be restored or if you can grow new ones somehow. Parkinson's disease is caused when too many dopaminergic neurons die.

As for the receptors, they're just downregulated and aren't sensitive to the action of dopamine anymore, since you're producing too much with the amphetamines. The receptors can be upregulated again though aslong as the neuron itself doesn't die.

The way to upregulate the receptor is by starving it of dopamine. Right now you're producing too much dopamine and your receptors are rejecting the action at the site, almost as if it's resistant to the dopamine. That's why you're not feeling good because your receptors just aren't working.

9-me-bc is a wonder drug in terms of upregulating dopamine receptors and bringing back your pleasure response. Also stopping all things which were causing the receptors to be over saturated with dopamine is something that needs to be done.

There's other hardcore methods like DA receptor antagonism with atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel which block the receptor site (so that it can upregulate faster). But I really dislike AA drugs and they come with a ton of nasty effects like weight gain and messes with some of the cytochrome P450 enzymes too

So my only choice here is to go into deep depression for a while?

 

[Seth Walsh]

I am prescribed, but I take double/triple dose since I don't feel regular daily dosage. That limits me to 10-15 uses a month since I get 30 a month.

I should stop tbh, this seems high iq. I haven't felt this way before starting. Few questions, since you are high IQ af and I didn't expect this level of intelligence on this forum tbh...

1) Is permanent damage done?

2) Any other tips on how to get back my dopamine receptors?

3) Is my T lowered because of it?

Tysm

1) Likely not.

2) PM'd - 9mebc probably best compound, and stopping amphetamines. Can add compounds like bromantane later to help with increasing endogenous dopamine synthesis via tyrosine hydroxylase upregulation (the rate limiting enzyme which converts tyrosine to l-dopa in the dopamine creation processes)

3) Your T is currently lowered due to the reason in my first post in this thread. But it's just temporary. You're not shut down in a way similar to a steroid user, although your hypothalamus has likely started producing ALOT less GnRH, which is basically the starting point for the creation of sex steroid hormones.

Takeaway: Dopamine and Testosterone have a lot of overlapping and rely on eachother in ways you wouldn't think.

 

[Seth Walsh]

So my only choice here is to go into deep depression for a while?

Well how long have you been dependent on amphetamine? You might want to see a doctor but try relay what I told you here so he/she knows your EXACT situation.

I don't think you'll be in a deep depression but amphetamine withdrawal can be tough. There's plenty of nootropics, lifestyle, diet changes that can help you get back to baseline 10x faster than you would just by going cold turkey and letting the receptors sensitise just by dropping the psychostims.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

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Well how long have you been dependent on amphetamine? You might want to see a doctor but try relay what I told you here so he/she knows your EXACT situation.

I don't think you'll be in a deep depression but amphetamine withdrawal can be tough. There's plenty of nootropics, lifestyle, diet changes that can help you get back to baseline 10x faster than you would just by going cold turkey and letting the receptors sensitise just by dropping the psychostims.

About 4 months on concerta, then switched to vyvanse 2-3 months ago

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Well how long have you been dependent on amphetamine? You might want to see a doctor but try relay what I told you here so he/she knows your EXACT situation.

I don't think you'll be in a deep depression but amphetamine withdrawal can be tough. There's plenty of nootropics, lifestyle, diet changes that can help you get back to baseline 10x faster than you would just by going cold turkey and letting the receptors sensitise just by dropping the psychostims.

what kind of supplements? you type a lot it would be great if you can make a big post if you dont mind. where can i learn more about these?

 

[ChristianChad]

Eat higher calories
Drink some OJ
Eat some egg yolk, beef
Jasmine rice
Get white button mushrooms boil them for 3 hours (2 hours minimum) and then cook them with some butter, they are very powerful anti-aromstase

you undereat because of the amphetamines

 

[Deleted member 7509]

@TsarTsar444 read every word in this thread. Super important

 

[BearBoy]

No problem!

Your dopamine receptors exist on your dopaminergic neurons. The neurons can be killed off with amphetamine abuse especially if you're dosing high and frequently. Once the neurons die I'm not sure if they can ever be restored or if you can grow new ones somehow. Parkinson's disease is caused when too many dopaminergic neurons die.

As for the receptors, they're just downregulated and aren't sensitive to the action of dopamine anymore, since you're producing too much with the amphetamines. The receptors can be upregulated again though aslong as the neuron itself doesn't die.

The way to upregulate the receptor is by starving it of dopamine. Right now you're producing too much dopamine and your receptors are rejecting the action at the site, almost as if it's resistant to the dopamine. That's why you're not feeling good because your receptors just aren't working.

9-me-bc is a wonder drug in terms of upregulating dopamine receptors and bringing back your pleasure response. Also stopping all things which were causing the receptors to be over saturated with dopamine is something that needs to be done.

There's other hardcore methods like DA receptor antagonism with atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel which block the receptor site (so that it can upregulate faster). But I really dislike AA drugs and they come with a ton of nasty effects like weight gain and messes with some of the cytochrome P450 enzymes too

Can porn do this? if you edge 5 - 7 hours long

 

[Seth Walsh]

Can porn do this? if you edge 5 - 7 hours long

Porn DOES downregulate dopamine receptors 100%. Anecdotal nofap is simply increased vigor and drive from improved dopamine signalling.

Edging for 5-7 hours doesn't seem fun or productive lmfao. I'm sure it can't be good for your dopamine system either; especially if you do it routinely.

 

[ChristianChad]

Can porn do this? if you edge 5 - 7 hours long

prob not
but you prostate gets fucked and prolactin spiked like crazy

 

[Preoximerianas]

No problem!

Your dopamine receptors exist on your dopaminergic neurons. The neurons can be killed off with amphetamine abuse especially if you're dosing high and frequently. Once the neurons die I'm not sure if they can ever be restored or if you can grow new ones somehow. Parkinson's disease is caused when too many dopaminergic neurons die.

As for the receptors, they're just downregulated and aren't sensitive to the action of dopamine anymore, since you're producing too much with the amphetamines. The receptors can be upregulated again though aslong as the neuron itself doesn't die.

The way to upregulate the receptor is by starving it of dopamine. Right now you're producing too much dopamine and your receptors are rejecting the action at the site, almost as if it's resistant to the dopamine. That's why you're not feeling good because your receptors just aren't working.

9-me-bc is a wonder drug in terms of upregulating dopamine receptors and bringing back your pleasure response. Also stopping all things which were causing the receptors to be over saturated with dopamine is something that needs to be done.

There's other hardcore methods like DA receptor antagonism with atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel which block the receptor site (so that it can upregulate faster). But I really dislike AA drugs and they come with a ton of nasty effects like weight gain and messes with some of the cytochrome P450 enzymes too

The amount of IQ this man is spitting out is absolutely beautiful.

Question tho, does the SSRI fluoxetine (Prozac) have similar issues associated with it? Doctors prescribed me it after I told them about my constant 24/7 anxiety that’s been happening since 2012.

 

[ChristianChad]

The amount of IQ this man is spitting out is absolutely beautiful.

Question tho, does the SSRI fluoxetine (Prozac) have similar issues associated with it? Doctors prescribed me it after I told them about my constant 24/7 anxiety that’s been happening since 2012.

your doctors are faggots
fuck SSRIs in general
but yeah naturally Dopamine antagonises Serotonin so i imagine the Serotonin can antagonise Dopamine

 

[Seth Walsh]

what kind of supplements? you type a lot it would be great if you can make a big post if you dont mind. where can i learn more about these?

Bromantane, 9mebc, cistanche tubulosa, ttfd, ginkgo biloba, cordyceps....

(Bromantane is the best for boosting endogenous dopamine synthesis) - it's like if a "test booster" was a "dopamine booster", and it actually works too which is the insane thing... and bromantane increases T more than any "Test booster" on the market, since high dopamine and high T are so heavily interlinkied...


I was planning on doing an insane dopamine and testosterone megathread at some stage but I don't want to rush it. I will try put it out though.

 

[BearBoy]

Porn DOES downregulate dopamine receptors 100%. Anecdotal nofap is simply increased vigor and drive from improved dopamine signalling.

Edging for 5-7 hours doesn't seem fun or productive lmfao. I'm sure it can't be good for your dopamine system either; especially if you do it routinely.

No i dont do it all the time just recovering because it started at age 16, now its slowly going away

the problem is i cant get on Nofap no matter how much I fap or fuck up my dopamine receptors, its a addiction and my T is too high

But its a slow process

 

[Seth Walsh]

The amount of IQ this man is spitting out is absolutely beautiful.

Question tho, does the SSRI fluoxetine (Prozac) have similar issues associated with it? Doctors prescribed me it after I told them about my constant 24/7 anxiety that’s been happening since 2012.

Yes (I was prescribed it in 2015-2016). It will cause low dopamine and sexual dysfunction. Took me 3.5 years of daily chronic psychostim use to reverse the PSSD effects of prozac.. Prozac will make you feel passive, incapable, yet content/anhedonic. It'll make you devoid of vigor, aggression, will lower your pleasure, passion, motivation and make you feel "cucked", even after stopping.

There's a whole forum dedicated to fixing their erectile dysfunction caused by SSRI use (even after quitting after a single dose) https://pssdforum.org/

Their main theory is that the 5HT1A autoreceptor in the raphe nuclei in the brain stem get desensitized. However, I've anecdotally been cured by shifting myself back into a dopamine dominant state from a previous "serotonin dominant" state. So I believe that the dopamine theory of PSSD holds more weight. And I've found a good bit of scientific evidence recently to back that up too.

 

[Seth Walsh]

No i dont do it all the time just recovering because it started at age 16, now its slowly going away

the problem is i cant get on Nofap no matter how much I fap or fuck up my dopamine receptors, its a addiction and my T is too high

But its a slow process

Don't worry. You don't NEED to be on nofap. I fap too when I'm too fucking horny. As long as you're not doing it as a means for hedonism, and just as a way to blow your load, you should be fine.

If you're fapping and you can't get a proper erection then you should probably try cut down. But I agree; complete nofap is just so hard especially when you feel your T is too high.

And that's a good thing if you feel your T is high. You're fine!

 

[UglyGod360]

Dopamine dysregulation.

Downregulated dopamine receptors -> inadequate mesocorticolimbic dopamine signalling -> inability to inhibit prolactin (via dopamine action) -> high prolactin levels suppressing gonadotropin releasing hormone in the hypothalamus

*High serum prolactin concentrations inhibit secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus, thereby decreasing the secretion of gonadotropins (luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone), and may also inhibit the action of gonadotropins on the gonads.*

I have the same issue thanks to drugs and hedonism https://looksmax.org/threads/is-my-dopamine-receptors-too-fried.393434/

 

[Seth Walsh]

I have the same issue thanks to drugs and hedonism https://looksmax.org/threads/is-my-dopamine-receptors-too-fried.393434/

Maybe I need to make a huge megathread at some stage. I need to test out 9mebc for myself so I'll need atleast until late Dec or January before I make it.

 

[ChristianChad]

I have the same issue thanks to drugs and hedonism https://looksmax.org/threads/is-my-dopamine-receptors-too-fried.393434/

Calcium inhibits Prolactin and PTH.
Eat eggshell powder everyday

 

[quakociaptockh]

I haven't beat my meat in a week. I told you, I am not horny...

Prove it.