Height is overrated if you’re atleast 5’8. Western cope vs reality

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there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
 
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no replies im going to kill myself
 
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Good thread definitely read it all
 
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Wow so basically if you live in a genuine 3rd world shithole then you can be 5'9 + :feelsgood:
 
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A genuine cope. Women desires taller. A 6'3” MTN person getting 600+ likes on tinder is a prime example.

The reason most women don’t have tall boyfriend is because they simply cannot find one, and are left with no choice but to settle.
 
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there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
Manlet cope
6'5 or khhv death :feelshah:
 
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no replies im going to kill myself

Post such threads only when this number (from the picture below) at the bottom of the forum is like 800-850+ (this usually happens after 3-4 PM UTC, and it takes 6 to 8 hours for the number to drop again)

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And as for height, you can slay at any height..

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But you need height to have a larger demographic pool of girls available / to be able to have a girlfriend / wife as tall as possible, because it's very important (I'll explain in this thread these things. Only Jesus knows when I'll post it, it will be giga long and I don't have much motivation right now to work on it)


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Too bad most of us live in western countries 😢

Very nice pfp

Marlon Brando Godfather GIF by Filmin




Post such threads only when this number (from the picture below) at the bottom of the forum is like 800-850+ (this usually happens after 3-4 PM UTC, and it takes 6 to 8 hours for the number to drop again)


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And as for height, you can slay at any height..

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But you need height to have a larger demographic pool of girls available / to be able to have a girlfriend / wife as tall as possible, because it's very important (I'll explain in this thread these things. Only Jesus knows when I'll post it, it will be giga long and I don't have much motivation right now to work on it)


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Manlet cope
6'5 or khhv death :feelshah:
there's no need to be so fucking tall its not the end of the world if you're under 6 feet most women just want a guy to be taller than them like women just want a guy that looks tall in their eyes and most women are short so there's hope
 
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there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
agree
 
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Height>Face in Germany
 
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Meanwhile what women say:



 
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Women want men taller than other men, not themselves you retard
 
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Women want men taller than other men, not themselves you retard
women in the west also want 6ft+ men for that reason too because they don't want their man to be short compared to others what i was trying to say is that the women outside of western countries are more likely to just want men who are taller than them by a few cm and that it isn't 100% over if you're under 6ft nigga also notice how i put (theory)
 
there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
I was with you until you said 6’4 is often a negative. There are always exception, but I feel like that would be a firinge minority.
 
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Height is cope imo, if face is at least HTN and taller than most women
 
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But the truth is most couples of young girls with men I've seen IRL the dudes were 5'11 or more.
 
there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
True but most short guys, by definitionm are facially average so it's yet another disadvantage to contend with.
 
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A genuine cope. Women desires taller. A 6'3” MTN person getting 600+ likes on tinder is a prime example.

The reason most women don’t have tall boyfriend is because they simply cannot find one, and are left with no choice but to settle.
Height is one thing nigga
 
Ok, so anyone below 5'8, i.e. me at 5'6, should do what? Geomax?
 
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The problem is that women put dont have access easily irl to guys who are HTN+. Imagine Ian Somerhalder whos 5'9 as a regular dude, they will 1000% fuck that dude, but the problem is that 99% of guys dont look like him, so height is the easiest way to beat your competition. Thankfully we dont live in Hollywood so 99% of men dont look like Ian Somerhalder, so IF HTN+ as long youre taller than her youre good. Ima repeat this till i die :HEIGHT IS LAW FOR NORMIES, FACE IS LAW FOR 8+ MEN
 
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there’s a lot of height doomerism in the looksmaxing community, but the truth is that height is not as important as people think at least if you’re 5’8 or taller. The idea that you need to be 6’2+ to be attractive is largely a western social media cope fueled by dating apps and online validation seeking behavior here’s why:

1. Most Women’s Perception of “Tall” is Subjective
Most women IRL (not on Tinder or Reddit) will call a guy tall if he is just a few cm taller than them a 5’7 girl will often think a 5’9-5’10 guy is “tall” especially in countries where the average height is lower outside of places like Scandinavia and the Netherlands being over 5’8 is generally enough.

2. Western Expectations are warped by Social Media
Yes if you live in the US or the UK you’ll hear some foids saying they want a guy who is 6’3+…but these are the same women who think they deserve a billionaire Chad model these expectations don’t align with reality. Most guys in relationships are not 6’3+ they’re usually a few inches taller than their GF at most.

3. Different Standards in Other Countries
In many European, Latin American, and Asian countries, 5’8-5’10 is actually a good height. Even in Eastern Europe, where heightpill is somewhat relevant, a strong face still dominates over height. If you have a good face, frame, and aesthetics, height won’t make or break you.

4. Taller Doesn’t Always Mean More Attractive
Once you pass a certain threshold (around 5’10-6’0), extra height doesn’t add much unless you have god-tier proportions. Many women even claim that super tall guys (6’4+) look goofy or lanky unless they have a solid frame to back it up.

5. Women Care About Presence More Than Raw Height
A guy who is 5’9 with a strong jawline, good eye area, and broad shoulders will mog a 6’2 guy with a weak chin and sunken eyes. Your presence, aesthetics, and frame matter more than just your height.

Conclusion:

If you’re 5’8+, stop heightmaxxing and focus on frame, aesthetics, and face the obsession with being a giant is mostly a western Tinder cope. In real life, as long as you are taller than the girl by a bit, she will usually perceive you as “tall”
basically if you're not in the US or a similar place you don't always have to be 6 feet tall.
Shortcel cope yet again, ideally you’d want to be 6ft+.
 
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The problem is that women put dont have access easily irl to guys who are HTN+. Imagine Ian Somerhalder whos 5'9 as a regular dude, they will 1000% fuck that dude, but the problem is that 99% of guys dont look like him, so height is the easiest way to beat your competition. Thankfully we dont live in Hollywood so 99% of men dont look like Ian Somerhalder, so IF HTN+ as long youre taller than her youre good. Ima repeat this till i die :HEIGHT IS LAW FOR NORMIES, FACE IS LAW FOR 8+ MEN
Keep coping manlet
 
Hyper-focusing on height past 5'10 is cope because if you don't have success at a true 5'10 you're just ugly.

But obviously a 6'3 man is going to have multiplied SMV compared to a 5'10 man.
 

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