[HIGH EFFORT] Proviron: A Deep Dive into the Most Underrated and Safest Pubertymaxxing Compound (youngcels gtfih)

[Leopold_]

‘1mg a day arimidex’ jfl

My endo prescribed 1mg Arimidex a day so that’s the dose I follow. If you look at any studies, all of the kids’ estrogen is nuked to the ground so I don’t think it’s too high of a dose

 

[Leopold_]

Why not inject a trt dose like 250 along with HGH + proviron + AI? You shouldnt have problems with aromatization with low test dose and proviron+AI both lower e2

Yeah this is the best combo for sure, but my blood work is monitored by a doctor rn so I can’t take test atm

 

[Leopold_]

you might disregard this but DHT DOES speed up growth plate calcification, if i was you id stay mostly natty until late puberty (18-19 whatever) when height has mostly stopped (maybe an extra half inch to go who cares) to take this shit, this way you can still reap some of the benefits with close to 0 drawbacks.

Bone maturation != plate ossification
This stuff is pretty much as safe as it gets, and in studies where kids take DHT derivatives like Anavar or Winstrol it has no effect on final height. So yeah if there is any risk I think it’s extremely small, and I think the bone structure gains will far exceed any possible chance at loss in height. The most important thing is to pair it with an AI to counter the synergy of DHT and estrogen.

 

[Leopold_]

How long should I run this for noticeable changes? +rep

You should start with 25mg/day for 3 months and compare bone age before and after before considering taking it long term. Once you evaluate the impact it had on your bone age given your dose, you can consider the pros and cons to decide if you want to take it long term

 

[britishchadlite]

My endo prescribed 1mg Arimidex a day so that’s the dose I follow. If you look at any studies, all of the kids’ estrogen is nuked to the ground so I don’t think it’s too high of a dose

Running ai at this dosage will PERMANENTLY fuck you up mentally and physically just so you know

 

[Leopold_]

Running ai at this dosage will PERMANENTLY fuck you up mentally and physically just so you know

could you elaborate on this?

 

[choro]

could you elaborate on this?

If you cut of all estrogen you will fill always shit you need more research

 

[jujibuu]

Hey guys, I've been lurking on the forum for a while and felt it was time to make a contribution. This is my first high effort post that took 10+ hours of research, lmk if you guys want more posts like this one.

Introduction: The Search for the Perfect Puberty Optimization Compound

For those seeking to maximize their genetic potential during puberty—whether for height, facial bone development, or overall masculine aesthetics—understanding the role of androgens is critical. In this pursuit, Proviron (Mesterolone) is one of the most interesting and under-discussed compounds that may offer unique benefits for individuals aiming to optimize their development without shutting down natural hormone production.

Unlike traditional testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or anabolic steroids, Proviron operates differently, and its mechanisms make it a compelling addition to a puberty-maximization stack. This post will explore Proviron's potential benefits, mechanisms of action, and how it aligns with key pubertymaxxing goals.


How Proviron Works: A DHT-Derived Androgen

1. High Affinity for SHBG, Freeing Up More Testosterone

One of Proviron’s most notable effects is its strong binding affinity to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). SHBG is a protein that binds to androgens (like testosterone), making them inactive. By binding to SHBG, Proviron effectively frees up more bioavailable testosterone, ensuring that your body can utilize the natural testosterone it produces more efficiently.


2. Pure DHT Action for Masculine Development

Proviron is derived from Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the main androgen responsible for many male secondary sexual characteristics such as:

- Jawline and facial bone growth
- Brow ridge development
- Cheekbone prominence
- Deeper voice
- Hairline and beard growth

Since Proviron is already a DHT derivative, it will directly enhance androgenic activity in areas where it matters most. Unlike testosterone, which converts to both DHT and estrogen, Proviron does not convert to estrogen at all, making it a uniquely “pure” androgenic compound for puberty maximization.


3. No Estrogen Conversion = No Growth Plate Closure Risk

One of the biggest concerns when taking androgenic compounds during puberty is the risk of premature growth plate closure due to excess estrogen. Since Proviron does not aromatize into estrogen, it does not contribute to early epiphyseal plate fusion, meaning that it should not negatively impact height growth.

For comparison:
- Testosterone converts into estrogen, which can close growth plates prematurely
- Proviron does not convert into estrogen, making it safer for maximizing height while still benefiting from androgenic effects

This is why Proviron is a superior option over traditional TRT or steroids if the goal is enhancing facial dimorphism and bone structure while keeping height gains intact.


Proviron’s Role in a Puberty-Maximizing Stack

When combined with a traditional heightmaxing stack, Proviron can help create an ideal hormonal balance for maximal development. For reference, here is my exact pubertymaxing protocol that I suggest everyone follow:

HGH (7.5 IU/day): Maximizes height potential & promotes bone growth
MK-677 (25mg/day): Boosts IGF-1 levels, improves recovery, enhances growth
Arimidex (1mg/day): Prevents estrogen-induced growth plate closure
Proviron (25mg/day): Enhances androgenic effects, facial bone structure, and testosterone bioavailability
DHEA (50mg/day): Prohormone that supports testosterone levels naturally

This stack ensures that height growth is maximized, while Proviron enhances masculine development in the face and upper body. By keeping estrogen levels low with Arimidex and supporting testosterone efficiency via Proviron, this setup works synergistically to optimize puberty outcomes.


Potential Risks & Considerations

While Proviron has significant benefits, it’s important to consider a few potential drawbacks:
- Androgenic Side Effects: While it does not cause bloating or estrogenic fat gain, it can contribute to oily skin, acne, and potential hair loss in those genetically predisposed to male pattern baldness.
- Mild HPTA Suppression: Proviron is not as suppressive as full-blown anabolic steroids, but at high doses, it can slightly suppress natural testosterone production. However, since it also lowers SHBG, the body often compensates with higher natural testosterone levels.
- Not a Mass Builder: Unlike testosterone or anabolic steroids, Proviron does not lead to significant muscle gains. However, we don't care because height, bones, and health mog muscles to oblivion.


Conclusion: Is Proviron the Best Compound for Maximizing Puberty?

For individuals seeking to maximize their height, enhance facial masculinity, and optimize their androgen levels without the risks associated with steroids or TRT, Proviron is the best option. Unlike testosterone, it provides pure DHT effects without increasing estrogen, meaning it offers the benefits of a high-androgenic environment without prematurely closing growth plates.

When paired with HGH, Arimidex, and MK-677, it creates a highly effective puberty-maxxing protocol that maximizes both height growth and facial bone development.



Sources & Further Reading

1. Proviron (Mesterolone) Product Information by Bayer

2. Mesterolone Overview - Wikipedia

3. NPS MedicineWise on Proviron

4. Cleveland Clinic on Anabolic Steroids


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This is great and all but how am I even gonna get my hands on proviron let alone hgh

 

[Leopold_]

If you cut of all estrogen you will fill always shit you need more research

been on the stack for 3 weeks now, with 0 side effects

 

[Leopold_]

This is great and all but how am I even gonna get my hands on proviron let alone hgh

you have to do the sourcing part on your own

 

[jujibuu]

you have to do the sourcing part on your own

But why help a MTN out

 

[20/04/2008]

how long we should run it?

It wont do anything usefull
Except maybe give you deca dick

 

[Leopold_]

It wont do anything useful
Except maybe give you deca dick

it's the best natty+ drug, and an easier alternative to testosterone for teenagers

 

[20/04/2008]

it's the best natty+ drug, and an easier alternative to testosterone for teenagers

I cringe hard
Connor really fucked up your brain bud
Before following someone blindly go through the history of the person if i had to cite everything bad about connor i could write a book

 

[Leopold_]

I cringe hard
Connor really fucked up your brain bud
Before following someone blindly go through the history of the person if i had to cite everything bad about connor i could write a book

I legit have no idea who Connor is, who is that?

 

[20/04/2008]

it's the best natty+ drug, and an easier alternative to testosterone for teenagers

Natty+ dude
Are you sure ??

 

[Leopold_]

Natty+ dude
Are you sure ??

yes, you said it yourself earlier in this thread bro. it has the best potential out of any DHT Derivative for androgenic gains, and is very safe

 

[Leopold_]

Natty+ dude
Are you sure ??

are you referring to Connor Murphy?

 

[20/04/2008]

yes, you said it yourself earlier in this thread bro. it has the best potential out of any DHT Derivative for androgenic gains, and is very safe

No it sucks bro
Its like 25x less androgenic and anabolic than testosterone

 

[20/04/2008]

are you referring to Connor Murphy?

Yes

 

[Leopold_]

No it sucks bro
Its like 25x less androgenic and anabolic than testosterone

obviously the gains will depends on the dosage, but Provision's Androgenic rating is 100, which is the same as Testosterone

 

[Leopold_]

It's literally pure androgenicity

 

[20/04/2008]

obviously the gains will depends on the dosage, but Provision's Androgenic rating is 100, which is the same as Testosterone

It isn’t about the anabolic androgenic rating bro
Orals = injectables
You can’t compare methyltestosterone to testosterone with an ester
2 different compounds
With the same logic that mean that boldenone and dbol are the same thing when infact its not

If you wanted to have like 100 mg of testosterone from priviron a week youll need to be using 350 mg of Proviron a day like wtf

 

[Leopold_]

It isn’t about the anabolic androgenic rating bro
Orals = injectables
You can’t compare methyltestosterone to testosterone with an ester
2 different compounds
With the same logic that mean that boldenone and dbol are the same thing when infact its not

If you wanted to have like 100 mg of testosterone from priviron a week youll need to be using 350 mg of Proviron a day like wtf

I completely agree with this, nothing will beat taking test. However, wouldn't you say that taking Proviron is at least a step in the right direction if you can't take test? Would it not be the perfect drug to increase your DHT by some extent and therefore get some androgenic gains?

 

[DNRDniggerking]

whats your half natty stack?

enclo and proviron makes sense

 

[20/04/2008]

I completely agree with this, nothing will beat taking test. However, wouldn't you say that taking Proviron is at least a step in the right direction if you can't take test? Would it not be the perfect drug to increase your DHT by some extent and therefore get some androgenic gains?

I mean their is 0 reason why would you use proviron (coming from someone who ised it when he was 14)

 

[midgetfacecumer]

mk677 why when hgh injection?

take proviron boys

 

[Leopold_]

I mean their is 0 reason why would you use proviron (coming from someone who ised it when he was 14)

how long did you use it for, and at what dosage?

 

[20/04/2008]

how long did you use it for, and at what dosage?

I was dumb like you
25-100 mg if i remember

 

[Leopold_]

I was dumb like you
25-100 mg if i remember

@20/04/2008 Your experience doesn’t mean Proviron is ineffective and no I'm not dumb.

1. You took it too early. At 14, you were still in early-mid puberty. Androgen receptors in the facial bones, jawline, and brow ridge aren’t fully upregulated until later in puberty. Taking DHT derivatives at that stage is unlikely to do much. I’m taking later in puberty, when my androgen receptors are most sensitive.

2. You said you don’t even remember if you were on 25 or 100mg/day. That’s a huge range, and bouncing around doses without a clear plan almost guarantees you’ll get no structured benefit. I’m running 25mg/day consistently for 3 months, then assessing with bloodwork and bone age scans. I’m tracking everything.

3. My goal is long-term structural change, not short-term results. Most people misunderstand what Proviron is for. I don’t expect Proviron to feel like Tren or Test because it’s not supposed to. I’m using it as a mild, safe, DHT-based androgen to incrementally enhance bone dimorphism over time, during a unique pubertal window, while preserving height. That’s something that testosterone + AI cannot do without far higher risks of growth plate closure.

 

[PolisCommov]

Hey guys, I've been lurking on the forum for a while and felt it was time to make a contribution. This is my first high effort post that took 10+ hours of research, lmk if you guys want more posts like this one.

Introduction: The Search for the Perfect Puberty Optimization Compound

For those seeking to maximize their genetic potential during puberty—whether for height, facial bone development, or overall masculine aesthetics—understanding the role of androgens is critical. In this pursuit, Proviron (Mesterolone) is one of the most interesting and under-discussed compounds that may offer unique benefits for individuals aiming to optimize their development without shutting down natural hormone production.

Unlike traditional testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or anabolic steroids, Proviron operates differently, and its mechanisms make it a compelling addition to a puberty-maximization stack. This post will explore Proviron's potential benefits, mechanisms of action, and how it aligns with key pubertymaxxing goals.


How Proviron Works: A DHT-Derived Androgen

1. High Affinity for SHBG, Freeing Up More Testosterone

One of Proviron’s most notable effects is its strong binding affinity to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). SHBG is a protein that binds to androgens (like testosterone), making them inactive. By binding to SHBG, Proviron effectively frees up more bioavailable testosterone, ensuring that your body can utilize the natural testosterone it produces more efficiently.


2. Pure DHT Action for Masculine Development

Proviron is derived from Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the main androgen responsible for many male secondary sexual characteristics such as:

- Jawline and facial bone growth
- Brow ridge development
- Cheekbone prominence
- Deeper voice
- Hairline and beard growth

Since Proviron is already a DHT derivative, it will directly enhance androgenic activity in areas where it matters most. Unlike testosterone, which converts to both DHT and estrogen, Proviron does not convert to estrogen at all, making it a uniquely “pure” androgenic compound for puberty maximization.


3. No Estrogen Conversion = No Growth Plate Closure Risk

One of the biggest concerns when taking androgenic compounds during puberty is the risk of premature growth plate closure due to excess estrogen. Since Proviron does not aromatize into estrogen, it does not contribute to early epiphyseal plate fusion, meaning that it should not negatively impact height growth.

For comparison:
- Testosterone converts into estrogen, which can close growth plates prematurely
- Proviron does not convert into estrogen, making it safer for maximizing height while still benefiting from androgenic effects

This is why Proviron is a superior option over traditional TRT or steroids if the goal is enhancing facial dimorphism and bone structure while keeping height gains intact.


Proviron’s Role in a Puberty-Maximizing Stack

When combined with a traditional heightmaxing stack, Proviron can help create an ideal hormonal balance for maximal development. For reference, here is my exact pubertymaxing protocol that I suggest everyone follow:

HGH (7.5 IU/day): Maximizes height potential & promotes bone growth
MK-677 (25mg/day): Boosts IGF-1 levels, improves recovery, enhances growth
Arimidex (1mg/day): Prevents estrogen-induced growth plate closure
Proviron (25mg/day): Enhances androgenic effects, facial bone structure, and testosterone bioavailability
DHEA (50mg/day): Prohormone that supports testosterone levels naturally

This stack ensures that height growth is maximized, while Proviron enhances masculine development in the face and upper body. By keeping estrogen levels low with Arimidex and supporting testosterone efficiency via Proviron, this setup works synergistically to optimize puberty outcomes.


Potential Risks & Considerations

While Proviron has significant benefits, it’s important to consider a few potential drawbacks:
- Androgenic Side Effects: While it does not cause bloating or estrogenic fat gain, it can contribute to oily skin, acne, and potential hair loss in those genetically predisposed to male pattern baldness.
- Mild HPTA Suppression: Proviron is not as suppressive as full-blown anabolic steroids, but at high doses, it can slightly suppress natural testosterone production. However, since it also lowers SHBG, the body often compensates with higher natural testosterone levels.
- Not a Mass Builder: Unlike testosterone or anabolic steroids, Proviron does not lead to significant muscle gains. However, we don't care because height, bones, and health mog muscles to oblivion.


Conclusion: Is Proviron the Best Compound for Maximizing Puberty?

For individuals seeking to maximize their height, enhance facial masculinity, and optimize their androgen levels without the risks associated with steroids or TRT, Proviron is the best option. Unlike testosterone, it provides pure DHT effects without increasing estrogen, meaning it offers the benefits of a high-androgenic environment without prematurely closing growth plates.

When paired with HGH, Arimidex, and MK-677, it creates a highly effective puberty-maxxing protocol that maximizes both height growth and facial bone development.



Sources & Further Reading

1. Proviron (Mesterolone) Product Information by Bayer

2. Mesterolone Overview - Wikipedia

3. NPS MedicineWise on Proviron

4. Cleveland Clinic on Anabolic Steroids


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Read every word

 

[PolisCommov]

@20/04/2008 Your experience doesn’t mean Proviron is ineffective and no I'm not dumb.

1. You took it too early. At 14, you were still in early-mid puberty. Androgen receptors in the facial bones, jawline, and brow ridge aren’t fully upregulated until later in puberty. Taking DHT derivatives at that stage is unlikely to do much. I’m taking later in puberty, when my androgen receptors are most sensitive.

2. You said you don’t even remember if you were on 25 or 100mg/day. That’s a huge range, and bouncing around doses without a clear plan almost guarantees you’ll get no structured benefit. I’m running 25mg/day consistently for 3 months, then assessing with bloodwork and bone age scans. I’m tracking everything.

3. My goal is long-term structural change, not short-term results. Most people misunderstand what Proviron is for. I don’t expect Proviron to feel like Tren or Test because it’s not supposed to. I’m using it as a mild, safe, DHT-based androgen to incrementally enhance bone dimorphism over time, during a unique pubertal window, while preserving height. That’s something that testosterone + AI cannot do without far higher risks of growth plate closure.

well wtf are you supposed to take in early puberty then? MK-677 and small dose of Arimidex?

 

[Leopold_]

well wtf are you supposed to take in early puberty then? MK-677 and small dose of Arimidex?

yeah and GH, along with all the softmaxes to fix your failos obviously. Save Proviron for late puberty, and don't bother with any anabolic steroids until after puberty. Results with this method are not guaranteed and I admit with a dosage as low as 25mg, it would have to be very long term (probably a year or more) to see structural changes to your face. Nevertheless, you should be excited about all-around masculinizing effects from the DHT, like voice deepening, bodily hair, increased libido and confidence. all things that make it worth it in my opinion, and the only steroid that should be taken during development.

 

[Leopold_]

well wtf are you supposed to take in early puberty then? MK-677 and small dose of Arimidex?

Also if you can, you should take IGF-1 LR3, I'm probably getting it soon

 

[PolisCommov]

yeah and GH, along with all the softmaxes to fix your failos obviously. Save Proviron for late puberty, and don't bother with any anabolic steroids until after puberty. Results with this method are not guaranteed and I admit with a dosage as low as 25mg, it would have to be very long term (probably a year or more) to see structural changes to your face. Nevertheless, you should be excited about all-around masculinizing effects from the DHT, like voice deepening, bodily hair, increased libido and confidence. all things that make it worth it in my opinion, and the only steroid that should be taken during development.

Hypothetically when is the youngest you can start taking this stuff: MK-677, Arimidex, IGF-1 LR3? Like 9-13?

 

[Leopold_]

Hypothetically when is the youngest you can start taking this stuff: MK-677, Arimidex, IGF-1 LR3? Like 9-13?

it's very individual but probably 10-14 for most of these. I wouldn't take an AI until later due to potential brain development issues.

 

[Leopold_]

@20/04/2008 did I convince you?

 

[PolisCommov]

it's very individual but probably 10-14 for most of these. I wouldn't take an AI until later due to potential brain development issues.

Without an AI won't they increase your estrogen and risk likely closing the growth plates early?

 

[Leopold_]

Without an AI won't they increase your estrogen and risk likely closing the growth plates early?

it's a tradeoff but there's no point of stopping GP closure until later in puberty because you're nowhere near closure at 10-14 for most ppl. again, highly independent

 

[superpsycho]

dnr

 

[Leopold_]

More people need to talk about Proviron. It’s definitely the only looksmaxing drug outside of heightmaxing that people should take during development

 

[Leopold_]

People are just scared of Proviron bc of the gray area between bone maturation and plate ossification which I debunked earlier in the thread.

 

[Leopold_]

Also if you incels actually do this, make sure you’re getting bloodwork every 3 months or there can be lifelong complications this stuff is no joke

 

[Molild]

Where do you buy all of your stack from.

 

[bpow321]

Hey guys, I've been lurking on the forum for a while and felt it was time to make a contribution. This is my first high effort post that took 10+ hours of research, lmk if you guys want more posts like this one.

Introduction: The Search for the Perfect Puberty Optimization Compound

For those seeking to maximize their genetic potential during puberty—whether for height, facial bone development, or overall masculine aesthetics—understanding the role of androgens is critical. In this pursuit, Proviron (Mesterolone) is one of the most interesting and under-discussed compounds that may offer unique benefits for individuals aiming to optimize their development without shutting down natural hormone production.

Unlike traditional testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or anabolic steroids, Proviron operates differently, and its mechanisms make it a compelling addition to a puberty-maximization stack. This post will explore Proviron's potential benefits, mechanisms of action, and how it aligns with key pubertymaxxing goals.


How Proviron Works: A DHT-Derived Androgen

1. High Affinity for SHBG, Freeing Up More Testosterone

One of Proviron’s most notable effects is its strong binding affinity to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). SHBG is a protein that binds to androgens (like testosterone), making them inactive. By binding to SHBG, Proviron effectively frees up more bioavailable testosterone, ensuring that your body can utilize the natural testosterone it produces more efficiently.


2. Pure DHT Action for Masculine Development

Proviron is derived from Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the main androgen responsible for many male secondary sexual characteristics such as:

- Jawline and facial bone growth
- Brow ridge development
- Cheekbone prominence
- Deeper voice
- Hairline and beard growth

Since Proviron is already a DHT derivative, it will directly enhance androgenic activity in areas where it matters most. Unlike testosterone, which converts to both DHT and estrogen, Proviron does not convert to estrogen at all, making it a uniquely “pure” androgenic compound for puberty maximization.


3. No Estrogen Conversion = No Growth Plate Closure Risk

One of the biggest concerns when taking androgenic compounds during puberty is the risk of premature growth plate closure due to excess estrogen. Since Proviron does not aromatize into estrogen, it does not contribute to early epiphyseal plate fusion, meaning that it should not negatively impact height growth.

For comparison:
- Testosterone converts into estrogen, which can close growth plates prematurely
- Proviron does not convert into estrogen, making it safer for maximizing height while still benefiting from androgenic effects

This is why Proviron is a superior option over traditional TRT or steroids if the goal is enhancing facial dimorphism and bone structure while keeping height gains intact.


Proviron’s Role in a Puberty-Maximizing Stack

When combined with a traditional heightmaxing stack, Proviron can help create an ideal hormonal balance for maximal development. For reference, here is my exact pubertymaxing protocol that I suggest everyone follow:

HGH (7.5 IU/day): Maximizes height potential & promotes bone growth
MK-677 (25mg/day): Boosts IGF-1 levels, improves recovery, enhances growth
Arimidex (1mg/day): Prevents estrogen-induced growth plate closure
Proviron (25mg/day): Enhances androgenic effects, facial bone structure, and testosterone bioavailability
DHEA (50mg/day): Prohormone that supports testosterone levels naturally

This stack ensures that height growth is maximized, while Proviron enhances masculine development in the face and upper body. By keeping estrogen levels low with Arimidex and supporting testosterone efficiency via Proviron, this setup works synergistically to optimize puberty outcomes.


Potential Risks & Considerations

While Proviron has significant benefits, it’s important to consider a few potential drawbacks:
- Androgenic Side Effects: While it does not cause bloating or estrogenic fat gain, it can contribute to oily skin, acne, and potential hair loss in those genetically predisposed to male pattern baldness.
- Mild HPTA Suppression: Proviron is not as suppressive as full-blown anabolic steroids, but at high doses, it can slightly suppress natural testosterone production. However, since it also lowers SHBG, the body often compensates with higher natural testosterone levels.
- Not a Mass Builder: Unlike testosterone or anabolic steroids, Proviron does not lead to significant muscle gains. However, we don't care because height, bones, and health mog muscles to oblivion.


Conclusion: Is Proviron the Best Compound for Maximizing Puberty?

For individuals seeking to maximize their height, enhance facial masculinity, and optimize their androgen levels without the risks associated with steroids or TRT, Proviron is the best option. Unlike testosterone, it provides pure DHT effects without increasing estrogen, meaning it offers the benefits of a high-androgenic environment without prematurely closing growth plates.

When paired with HGH, Arimidex, and MK-677, it creates a highly effective puberty-maxxing protocol that maximizes both height growth and facial bone development.



Sources & Further Reading

1. Proviron (Mesterolone) Product Information by Bayer

2. Mesterolone Overview - Wikipedia

3. NPS MedicineWise on Proviron

4. Cleveland Clinic on Anabolic Steroids


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Dnr as soon as I saw MK

 

[Leopold_]

Where do you buy all of your stack from.

Not helping with sourcing

 

[Leopold_]

Dnr as soon as I saw MK

MK is fully optional but I think it’s worth it. It’s not the point of this thread at all

 

[Leopold_]

Copy-pasted post on a separate thread that you incense should read:


This is a really important discussion that doesn’t get nearly enough attention on this forum. You incels better read this because it took me a long fucking time to type.


Here is what you’re right about:

- Patients with 5AR deficiency often have normal height and bone density, which shows that testosterone alone is sufficient to drive linear bone growth—especially in the long bones.
- Testosterone is key for the pubertal growth spurt and also contributes to increased bone mass, in part through its conversion to estrogen.
- DHT acts mostly locally and has less systemic impact on skeletal growth compared to testosterone.
- Bone density is not the same as craniofacial morphology—the studies you cited mostly talk about density and length, not the shape or structural differences in the bones.


Here is why I'm still right about DHT being important:


REASON 1:

- Testosterone drives overall growth and bone density across the body.
- DHT, on the other hand, has more localized effects—especially in androgen-sensitive areas like the jawline, brow ridge, cheekbones, and larynx.

So, while testosterone builds size, DHT is what shapes many of the features associated with sexual dimorphism.


REASON 2:

There’s solid scientific evidence that DHT is the main androgen responsible for masculinizing traits like:
- Facial bone development
-Genital differentiation
- Voice deepening
- Male-pattern hair growth

Even the 5AR-deficient cases you mentioned (which I took the time to read) support this point. These guys typically present with less masculinized facial features, underdeveloped genitalia, and sparse facial/body hair—unless they receive DHT or DHT analog treatment. You can instantly see that guy with DHT on the right has a way more masculine face, while the one on the left has a subhuman baby face.

Pretty much, their height and bone density are intact, but their secondary sexual traits are underdeveloped.


REASON 3:

The patients in these studies usually show a consistent pattern:
- Normal height
- Normal bone density
- Micropenis
- Minimal facial/body hair
- Reduced facial dimorphism
- Higher-pitched voices

This suggests that testosterone grows the body while DHT masculinizes it.


ALSO CHEEKBONES ARE TOTALLY DIMORPHIC:
There’s plenty of anthropological and endocrinological research that I'm too lazy to cite showing that males tend to have more prominent zygos, and this dimorphism coincides with surges in DHT levels.

 

[org3cel.RR]

Proviron sucks bro
I used Proviron when i was 14 it don’t do shit
The only time i would use Proviron if i wanted to do a Half natty stack

Damn, useless for bones then? For how long did u use it

 

[20/04/2008]

Damn, useless for bones then? For how long did u use it

1 year and i was using high doses like 100 mg