Oh well i run a PPL split 6x a week as a natural right now who has been lifting for 6 months totally, gonna lift for 1-2 more years before i seriously get a medical professional on drug use for anabolic steroids but will test and anavar help me recover, get more muscle and help with cutting ?
Here is my frame
Yes absolutely
What if i don’t respond well ? And is 400mg of Test E + Anavar enough to get lean/ Asethetic, my goal is not to look like a powerlifter but like zyzz, connor murphy, seid etc.
Again im bad with this stuff cuz when i look at this everything looks the same to me, but um u could probably get his physique on gear
Aight thanks, also i believe i should pursure a strength base (squat 315lbs, bench 225lbs, and deadlift 405lbs) before i actually hope on test because then my volume will be using heavy weights due to building thst strength base which allows me to lift heavier weights for more volume sets and reps.
rare to respond bad to test as it already exists to ur body, yeh test + var is enough to get aesthetic tbh anything more will make u look like a powerlifter, if ur over 21 just run the cycle then blast and cruise
It has so much side affects because its powerful for almost everything the better something works the higher the risk
Ull get stronger incredibly fast on gear so just get on cycle soon tbh no point of wasting time
Thanks im copying this if u dont mind, this will have low risk of side effects compared to what IBFF pro bodybuilders are using right ?
Im 17 turning 18, will hope on cycle when im 20, is that fine ?
Ik people who r 15 on cycle ull be fine, if ur 18 then u can choose between using hcg or not, ur growth plates are prolly like 100% closed outside maybe ur spine and some others perchance but it doesnt matter just use pct then, use clomid i think clomid was um 20mg everday for 4-6 weeks not 100% sure i think so tho
How to prevent hair loss on test and anavar ?
a theories going around that dht doesnt cause hairloss and its caused by pressure on the scalp, me and ALOT of the smartest people agree with this, u can release pressure from ur scalp by microneedling and doing scalp massages, seems like cope but it makes sense in theory, if u still wanna supress dht, go with supplements to supress dht dont take fin, fin isnt that bad but its extremely toxic, there is a 1% chance u get pfs which outside of how toxic fin is, it adds even more reason not to use it
looksmax.org
Dbol is fucking f tier bro the only time you need it is if you are running a lot of dht derivatives (or bold) if your estrogen is lowRead first:
3rd language so translated and grammar checked by AI
There are alot of steroid guides on here but most are surface level and dont explain the science
If u have opinion on this give me opinion dont be a tard
Tier S (Chad Potency and Effectiveness):
1. Testosterone:
- Mechanism: Primary male sex hormone; activates gene transcription factors for muscle growth. Too much use may lead to testicular atrophy and infertility.
2. Trenbolone:
- Mechanism: Synthetic derivative of testosterone; highly anabolic with risks like cardiotoxicity and hepatic stress.
3. Dianabol (Methandrostenolone):
- Mechanism: Enhances muscle growth but hepatotoxic; may cause liver damage.
Tier A (Chadlite Potency and Selectivity):
4. Anadrol (Oxymetholone):
- Mechanism: Boosts erythropoiesis; associated with hepatotoxicity and polycythemia.
5. Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate):
- Mechanism: Boosts muscle growth with low androgenic activity; may suppress testosterone production and pose cardiovascular risks.
Tier B (HTN Efficacy and Target Specificity):
6. Winstrol (Stanozolol):
- Mechanism: Boosts protein synthesis and endurance but may cause hepatotoxicity and cardiovascular issues.
7. Anavar (Oxandrolone):
- Mechanism: Preserves lean muscle mass with minimal androgenic effects; potential hepatotoxicity and lipid profile alteration.
Tier C (MTN Efficacy and Safety Profile):
8. Primobolan (Methenolone):
- Mechanism: Mild anabolic effects with low hepatotoxicity; higher doses may increase risk.
9. Masteron (Drostanolone):
- Mechanism: Inhibits aromatase, enhancing definition; short half-life and androgenic properties.
10. Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate):
- Mechanism: Causes slow muscle gains with weak anabolic potency; potential side effects.
Cutting Stack (Winstrol + Anavar):
- Supplements:
Milk Thistle
NAC
Glucosamine
Chondroitin
Omega-3
- Cycle:
6-8 weeks
Winstrol 50mg/day
Anavar 50mg/day
Off-cycle: 4-6 weeks
Lean Muscle Building Stack (Testosterone + Deca Durabolin):
- Supplements:
DIM
Saw Palmetto
Coenzyme Q10
- Cycle:
10-12 weeks
Testosterone 500mg/week
Deca 400mg/week
Off-cycle: 6-8 weeks
Bulking Stack (Dianabol + Testosterone + Deca Durabolin):
- Supplements:
DIM
Hawthorn Berry
Cranberry Extract
- Cycle:
10-12 weeks
Dianabol 30-50mg/day
Testosterone 500mg/week
Deca 400mg/week
Off-cycle: 8-10 weeks
Muscle Growth and Fat Loss Stack (Trenbolone + Testosterone + Anavar):
- Supplements:
Hawthorn Berry
Coenzyme Q10
Cranberry Extract
5-HTP
- Cycle:
8-10 weeks
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Testosterone 500mg/week
Anavar 50mg/day
Off-cycle: 6-8 weeks
Strength Stack (Anadrol + Trenbolone):
- Supplements:
Liv-52
Garlic Extract
Magnesium
Potassium
- Cycle:
6-8 weeks
Anadrol 50-100mg/day
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Off-cycle: 4-6 weeks
Endurance Stack (Equipoise + Masteron):
- Supplements:
Iron
Vitamin B12
Biotin
Vitamin C
Zinc
- Cycle:
8-10 weeks
Equipoise 400mg/week
Masteron 400mg/week
Off-cycle: 6-8 weeks
Recomp Stack (Testosterone + Trenbolone + Winstrol):
- Supplements:
Hawthorn Berry
Coenzyme Q10
Milk Thistle
NAC
Chromium
- Cycle:
8-10 weeks
Testosterone 500mg/week
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Winstrol 50mg/day
Off-cycle: 6-8 weeks
Joint Health and Recovery Stack (Deca Durabolin + Equipoise):
- Supplements:
MSM
Collagen
Probiotic
- Cycle:
10-12 weeks
Deca 400mg/week
Equipoise 400mg/week
Off-cycle: 8-10 weeks
Advanced Bulking with Focus on Vascularity Stack (Trenbolone + Anadrol + Testosterone):
- Supplements:
Omega-3
Garlic Extract
Liv-52
Fiber supplement
- Cycle:
8-10 weeks
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Anadrol 50-100mg/day
Testosterone 500mg/week
Off-cycle: 6-8 weeks
Aggressive Cutting Stack (Clenbuterol + Trenbolone + Winstrol):
- Supplements:
Magnesium
Potassium
Coenzyme Q10
N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC)
- Cycle:
6-8 weeks
Clenbuterol 40-120mcg/day
Trenbolone 75mg EOD
Winstrol 50mg/day
Off-cycle: 4-6 weeks
Infertility and Testicular Atrophy:
- Counter: Incorporate human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) into the cycle to maintain testicular size and function.
- Consideration: PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) with selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) like Clomid or Nolvadex to restore natural testosterone production.
Estrogen-related Side Effects (Gynecomastia, Water Retention):
- Counter: Use of aromatase inhibitors (AI) like Aromasin or Arimidex to control estrogen levels.
- Consideration: Monitoring estradiol levels regularly and adjusting AI dosage accordingly.
Androgen-related Side Effects (Acne, Hair Loss, Prostate Enlargement):
- Counter: Topical treatments for acne, such as benzoyl peroxide or retinoids; Finasteride or Dutasteride for hair loss prevention; Saw Palmetto for prostate health.
- Consideration: Proper hygiene and skincare routine; regular prostate checks if prone to prostate issues.
Cardiovascular Risks (Elevated Blood Pressure, Lipid Profile Changes):
- Counter: Cardiovascular exercises.
- Consideration: Monitoring blood pressure, cholesterol, and lipid profiles; supplement with Omega-3 fatty acids.
Liver Strain:
- Counter: Regular liver function tests; use of liver support supplements like Milk Thistle or N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC).
- Consideration: Limiting alcohol intake and avoiding hepatotoxic substances.
Mood Swings and Aggression:
- Counter: Anger and Depression isnt real watch Andrew Tate.
- Consideration: Join Hustlers University.
Insulin Sensitivity and Blood Sugar Management:
- Counter: Monitoring blood sugar levels regularly; dont take too many carbs.
- Consideration: Supplementing with Chromium or Alpha-Lipoic Acid to support insulin sensitivity.
Kidney Function:
- Counter: Much water negro; monitoring kidney function through blood tests.
- Consideration: Avoid too much use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) which can strain the kidneys.
Red Blood Cell Count Elevation (Polycythemia):
- Counter: Monitoring hematocrit and hemoglobin levels; donating blood if necessary to reduce red blood cell count.
- Consideration: Adjusting dosage or frequency of testosterone administration to manage erythrocytosis.
Cholesterol Imbalances:
- Counter: Statin medications if needed.
- Consideration: Regular lipid profile monitoring to track changes and adjust interventions accordingly.
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Bonus Suggestions:
1. TUDCA - Liver - Suggested by @NorwoodAscender
2. Telmisartan - High blood pressure - Suggested by a thug
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Tier List and Stacks for SARMS - Mid effort
First guide hopefully didnt fuck this up tier list of sarms, i put as much info as possible, i used cuck ai to fix formating and fix my grammar since ik retarded ngas on here gon be like “what does this mean 🤓” if i spelled it wrong, my credibility for this is ive done sarms before, and that i...
nah
Dbol is fucking trash and outdated. Literally only good if you need estrogen conversion
nah ur wrong
Hmm, tbh cant be fucked taking steroids, will just natty lift because in my situation i am finanicially broke + i dont give a shit much about my physique, although i am just trying to be lean thats about it so i will just natty lift.a theories going around that dht doesnt cause hairloss and its caused by pressure on the scalp, me and ALOT of the smartest people agree with this, u can release pressure from ur scalp by microneedling and doing scalp massages, seems like cope but it makes sense in theory, if u still wanna supress dht, go with supplements to supress dht dont take fin, fin isnt that bad but its extremely toxic, there is a 1% chance u get pfs which outside of how toxic fin is, it adds even more reason not to use it
heres the thread:
You aren’t balding because of DHT [Guide]
Disclaimer: This theory is not presented as fact, however it has strong scientific support and is becoming increasingly prevalent in contemporary research. INTRO Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is one of the key male hormones in sexual development, it is partially responsible for facial hair and...
its literally gyno in a pill and once you come off you lose 90% percent of what you "gained" because its just water retention
@latent , ud need to blast and cruise post cycle if u want significant jaw growth but that adds alot more factors to this way more
could we add masteron or any other DHT derivative into this? i feel like the reduction of shbg mixed with this would give crazy face bone gains
Yes, lowering SHBG, increases free T, but minor bone impact mmm
would hcg help with suppression like guarantee no shrinkage?
Yeh but if ur below 20 u dont need hcg
how so ? why's that I'm 16 currently on mk HGH and letrozole, willing to hop on test and anavar/masteron but I don't want none of that testicle atrophy how can someone prevent that?
My bad bro I swear I replied bad memory, HCG at 16 can prematurely stimulate Leydig cells, possibly disrupting natural LH/FSH balance, u can recover from testicle atrophy normally without doing anything especially at such a low dose, honestly I'm debating pcting since i cant decide between
Yeh ur bigger than me, probably older too, doesnt change the fact i know more than u, also being bigger isnt a mog aesthetics is what matters that like mogging someone in having a bigger ass than them like its a bad not a good thing
U say that but can u point out what i said wrong because i doubt it, my advice on roids is good and it’s scientifically correct so i dont get ur point
always niggas bringing up dave palumbo
"purchasing isnt legitimizing ur knowledge"
correct, one of the rare correct things in this thread
not in high tier, esp for looksmaxxing. will make everything but your muscles look like shit, skin quality, hair etc. also highly individual mental response.
wrong, should be low tier. bloat roid, aromatizes into 17-methylestradiol, which is only controllable with suicidal ais, which have androgenic sides like hair loss.
bad choice, bloat, good for strength, would rank lower.
bad choice for looksmaxxing again, bloat, mental deterioration, watery.
good roid, exept it can cause hairloss and will make your skin look older if you dont take care of it. should be in s or a tier depending on personal response. (which this guy @Rigged doesnt have, thats why he writes such shit threads)
good, but will trash your hdl (from 40s to high/low 10s depending on dosage. should be s or a tier.
very good, improves skin somehow in me, dry, full, controls e2, be careful with that. should be s tier but this retard put it in c tier lmao.
THE looksmaxxing steroid if youre not prone to balding. if you are, it will fuck you in the ass. eliminates any bloat, makes you look lean as fuck and angular. also great neurology driver.
similar to primo, should be s or a. only bad thing is long ester.
oral only stack, you wont have e2, will rip a tendon or something and you probably will get dick problems week 4-6 onwards due to the missing e2
lean??, wtf is this guy talking about.
same as before, but even more eytreme. this is the most retarded stack one could run. youll end up looking like a fat guy with a ballon face.
test too high, will cause tren sides like agression, insomnia. also your hdl will be in the single digits. very bad, very unhealthy. youll probably build a nice amount of arterial plaque with that cycle.
where tf is the test base???? this nigga.
no test base, shit stack. weird supplements again, like on all his shitty cycle suggestions.
its getting worse. test too high, again horrible for hdl and ldl. also, tren at this dose will cause hypoglycemia already, and this guy puts chromium in as a supplement, which will make that even worse. no AI also.
no test. shit cycle. e2 is needed for collagen deposition, esp. for rebuilding.
rage mode. steroids usually just exasperate your personality, but tren&anadrol will make you angry. all the time. youll be bloated as fuxk too, and will have high e2 sides again, which will make tren worse
no test.
decent advice. but too sparse
why not included in the cycle suggestions? stupid. also no dosage advice etc. even though this is very individual, theres still a general range of doses.
i personally dislike fin, but again, too vague. dosing, side effects of named ancillaries, etc.
tells you what to monitor, but not to do, if out of range. retarded. telmisartan, nebivolol, cardio, electrolyte intake.
tudca?? also too vague AGAIN.
lmao wtf is this
acceptable info once.
meh info, but doesnt even mention astragalus or jardiance
frequency or dosage wont help if youre prone to high hgb or high hct. naringin, much arrobic training (high volume, lower intensity, like running, cycling), lots of water and electrolytes. all this info missing. vague again.
statins, ok buddy.
here @Rigged debunked your shitty thread.@PsychoDsk
@justropemaxbro
@Snake.0359
Bonus Suggestions:
1. TUDCA - Liver - Suggested by @NorwoodAscender
2. Telmisartan - High blood pressure - Suggested by a thug
My Related Threads:
Tier List and Stacks for SARMS - Mid effort
First guide hopefully didnt fuck this up tier list of sarms, i put as much info as possible, i used cuck ai to fix formating and fix my grammar since ik retarded ngas on here gon be like “what does this mean 🤓” if i spelled it wrong, my credibility for this is ive done sarms before, and that i...
Gng u said a whole lot for a whole lotta nothing u dont understand how supplements work a tier list is subjective on my personal opinion gng, the stacks arent meant to be everything u take also alot of ur science has to be a joke u sound like a moron
Also its crazy that u struggle the read that the stacks are things u should look into with general advice NOT WHAT U SHOULD TAKE THIS INSTANT
Also the fact u pointed out nothing bad about this thread but i myself could point out issues jfl
Yes i agree i feel like alot of people miss the point of a tier list like im just rating this based on my opinion
I only gave him rep so he gets notified to come back so you guys can argue more
Then again @Rigged mentioned its low effort I dont think anyone will base a cycle of this. Best to just use the basic info he provided.
Lmao
I'd go with 1 because growth plate maturation is only caused by e2 just keep that low with an aromatase inhibitor and you'll be good to go/also another question if we can recover testicular atrophy why can't we recover from HCG though Homeostasis please answer both of my questions if possible also you're working yourself too hard make sure to rest for a bit take care!
1. Serms (pct) close plates outside of the E2 function
disrupts? like kills it or just suppresses it?1. Serms (pct) close plates outside of the E2 function
2. HCG mimics LH; long use disrupts natural LH production
Supresses
but that's easily manageble as your body naturally fixes itself or you can just use clomid as pct after you're done with the cycle using hcg like here look
yeh hcg last 5 weeks of cycle at 500iu 2x a week i think it was or 2x a day i dont remember but yeh
