Hopefuel for fat/bulk cells (before/after pics), GTFIN

[Lisdex]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

 

[theprox]

mim

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

mirin brah, keep it up

 

[pajjeetslayer]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

Crazy transformation in 5 months

How old/ how much test were you on?

 

[Lisdex]

Crazy transformation in 5 months

How old/ how much test were you on?

Started at end 17, just turned 18 in september.
You can look at my guide on what i used, dosages and so on. Just go into my threads

 

[Lisdex]

mim

mirin brah, keep it up

Thanks bhai

 

[user1827]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

Why would you hop off test...

 

[Lisdex]

Why would you hop off test...

Simple really, just my preference.
I have no intention on pinning for the rest of my life, i simply don't wish to do the nececarry things that I'd have to do if blast-cruising. The goal was never to keep growing, just to build a strong and good foundation i can maintain as a natural.
I don't wish or have any goals towards the gym as hitting PRS anymore, only looks.

If i had the will to moniter everything regulary and everything else, i would. BUT i know myself.
Thus one cycle was enough and gave me what i needed, kids jumping on trt after a cycle without knowing what's needed of them are stupid and uneducated.

 

[user1827]

Simple really, just my preference.
I have no intention on pinning for the rest of my life, i simply don't wish to do the nececarry things that I'd have to do if blast-cruising. The goal was never to keep growing, just to build a strong and good foundation i can maintain as a natural.
I don't wish or have any goals towards the gym as hitting PRS anymore, only looks.

If i had the will to moniter everything regulary and everything else, i would. BUT i know myself.
Thus one cycle was enough and gave me what i needed, kids jumping on trt after a cycle without knowing what's needed of them are stupid and uneducated.

Sorry you're the retard here, the kids that are ready to do it for life seem like they would know more than you, you ran random untested steroids for a rather long time for mid results that you will now plateau with or slowly lose.

Using a testosterone based cycle to hop off is always retarded.

 

[DxstZ]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

bro thats fucking crazy

 

[Lisdex]

Sorry you're the retard here, the kids that are ready to do it for life seem like they would know more than you, you ran random untested steroids for a rather long time for mid results that you will now plateau with or slowly lose.

Using a testosterone based cycle to hop off is always retarded.

Care to explain?

YOU telling me what MY goals should be, and i should pin for the rest of my life is just straight JFL FUEL
Talking about mid results, yeah true. Got what i would expect, no more; tell me the problem in that?
Don't know you, but you sound like a virgin bloatcell that loves deca, dbol and test cycles who only specialize in roids, nothing else.

Talking about hopping off after a testosterone based cycle, like that should be harmfull lol. My bloodwork now, is the almost exact same as before. Would you rather get me on a SARM cycle and use enclo for pct??!
I get why people do blast-cruises, but it does not fit me, an 18 y/o, NOR does it fit 80% of teenage users aswell. THIS IS THE TRUTH

I might plateau for a while, sure? I drink weekly, only lifts fucking 3x a week.
I'm not like you, gym is not my life; the results are the end goal. I don't lift to show off alone in my room eating fucking meals at 3AM

I think 19-nor roids might've eaten your brain, you say things you dont know shit on and hates on a successful cycle

 

[Lisdex]

bro thats fucking crazy

Thanks dawg

 

[DxstZ]

Thanks dawg

 

[user1827]

Care to explain?

YOU telling me what MY goals should be, and i should pin for the rest of my life is just straight JFL FUEL
Talking about mid results, yeah true. Got what i would expect, no more; tell me the problem in that?
Don't know you, but you sound like a virgin bloatcell that loves deca, dbol and test cycles who only specialize in roids, nothing else.

Talking about hopping off after a testosterone based cycle, like that should be harmfull lol. My bloodwork now, is the almost exact same as before. Would you rather get me on a SARM cycle and use enclo for pct??!
I get why people do blast-cruises, but it does not fit me, an 18 y/o, NOR does it fit 80% of teenage users aswell. THIS IS THE TRUTH

I might plateau for a while, sure? I drink weekly, only lifts fucking 3x a week.
I'm not like you, gym is not my life; the results are the end goal. I don't lift to show off alone in my room eating fucking meals at 3AM

I think 19-nor roids might've eaten your brain, you say things you dont know shit on and hates on a successful cycle

Yes.. If you're not going to stay on the for the rest of your life it's ALWAYS a shitty idea.
The problem in mid results is if you're going to damage yourself by taking gear you should at least maximize the results, makes sense no?
Not sure why you're rambling about deca and dbol?
I would like to see your bloodwork, all of it being the same is highly unlikely.
No I think you should have done nothing.
If a blast and cruise does not fit you, you should not have ever got on.
Plateauing means your net gains might be the same as if you stayed natural completely ruining the purpose of hopping on.
Now rambling about gym stuff?
There's nothing we've argued I don't know so please tell me and the success of the cycle cannot be determined immediately when you're PCTing right after.

 

[Lisdex]

Yes.. If you're not going to stay on the for the rest of your life it's ALWAYS a shitty idea.
The problem in mid results is if you're going to damage yourself by taking gear you should at least maximize the results, makes sense no?
Not sure why you're rambling about deca and dbol?
I would like to see your bloodwork, all of it being the same is highly unlikely.
No I think you should have done nothing.
If a blast and cruise does not fit you, you should not have ever got on.
Plateauing means your net gains might be the same as if you stayed natural completely ruining the purpose of hopping on.
Now rambling about gym stuff?
There's nothing we've argued I don't know so please tell me and the success of the cycle cannot be determined immediately when you're PCTing right after.

See, we agree.
We just don't use(d) steroids for the same cause, which is fair.
You might do roids to compete, i do them to look sick while slaying.
In the end i see the logic behind what your saying, but roiding for looks (THIS field), is very different than wishing to become an IFBB pro.

 

[user1827]

See, we agree.
We just don't use(d) steroids for the same cause, which is fair.
You might do roids to compete, i do them to look sick while slaying.
In the end i see the logic behind what your saying, but roiding for looks (THIS field), is very different than wishing to become an IFBB pro.

I agree I have more off a bodybuilding outlook but my main point is I think hopping off is silly since you'll likely get the same net gain or only slightly more for an unforseeable amount of unwanted effects. Glad your bloodwork isn't looking like syrup at least.

 

[Lisdex]

I agree I have more off a bodybuilding outlook but my main point is I think hopping off is silly since you'll likely get the same net gain or only slightly more for an unforseeable amount of unwanted effects. Glad your bloodwork isn't looking like syrup at least.

Yes, might be true. I don't agree on the "same net gain", since the added nuclei to your muscle fibers though
In the end, i threw about 14kgs of bw, while going from 140 to 190kgs on bench which i still can do

Would i look, and be as strong as i am right now without roids in let's say two years? Yeah, i might've
But again, i don't really care about that. Wished results fast, and got them

 

[Lisdex]

for an unforseeable amount of unwanted effects.

I kinda loved every second of it though, icl

Glad your bloodwork isn't looking like syrup at least.

Thanks dawg

 

[user1827]

I kinda loved every second of it though, icl


Thanks dawg

Yes, might be true. I don't agree on the "same net gain", since the added nuclei to your muscle fibers though
In the end, i threw about 14kgs of bw, while going from 140 to 190kgs on bench which i still can do

Would i look, and be as strong as i am right now without roids in let's say two years? Yeah, i might've
But again, i don't really care about that. Wished results fast, and got them

Did some double checking, you're right about the myonuclei contributing to retained muscle making it still having a positive net gain after PCT. Where the major issue with stopping is people usually don't only do one cycle, can you get away with one cycle like you did? Most people will, but when you do it in cycles with PCT numerous amounts of times you'll only be able to restart your test production so many times.

If you plan to get out, congrats.
If you plan to do more cycles like this (PCTing after) I'd say your still a retard.

 

[Lisdex]

If you plan to get out, congrats.
If you plan to do more cycles like this (PCTing after) I'd say your still a retard.

Totally agree, a PCT should if done, only be done once

 

[Jatt]

one cycle later

What cycle

 

[Lisdex]

What cycle

Look at my threads

 

[4Christ_sake]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

Noice what peptides are u taking

 

[imjustcookedfr]

Simple really, just my preference.
I have no intention on pinning for the rest of my life, i simply don't wish to do the nececarry things that I'd have to do if blast-cruising. The goal was never to keep growing, just to build a strong and good foundation i can maintain as a natural.
I don't wish or have any goals towards the gym as hitting PRS anymore, only looks.

If i had the will to moniter everything regulary and everything else, i would. BUT i know myself.
Thus one cycle was enough and gave me what i needed, kids jumping on trt after a cycle without knowing what's needed of them are stupid and uneducated.

High IQ, can you explain what did you do to keep all the gains after hopping off?

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

w

Simple really, just my preference.
I have no intention on pinning for the rest of my life, i simply don't wish to do the nececarry things that I'd have to do if blast-cruising. The goal was never to keep growing, just to build a strong and good foundation i can maintain as a natural.
I don't wish or have any goals towards the gym as hitting PRS anymore, only looks.

If i had the will to moniter everything regulary and everything else, i would. BUT i know myself.
Thus one cycle was enough and gave me what i needed, kids jumping on trt after a cycle without knowing what's needed of them are stupid and uneducated.

hy would you say trt isnt good for teens, red more its good.

Howd you fix theat rib flare or was it just training.

 

[MulletM1chas]

5 months apart, one cycle later with some peptides
Picture taken today, 4 weeks off of test prop and everything. Bloodwork is good, libido and everything nice and playing.
Managed to keep all progress, no strength loss aswell! (lwk look better now off roids, since i don't pack as much water; more defined)

I've learned that a lot is in your control, don't live with the cards you were once delt with. INJECT THOSE CARDS WITH ROIDS AND ASCEND!

"EVERYTHING I SAY IS SATIRE"

Good asf body transformation but did not do much for face like i see zygo is little bigger but could be lightning

 

[Lisdex]

Noice what peptides are u taking

Rn im taking mt2, ghkcu and ipa+modgrf
Think i'll buy hgh today with some cialis for the fun of it

 

[Lisdex]

High IQ, can you explain what did you do to keep all the gains after hopping off?

Yeah, i started using creatine, taking vitamins, using pwo and eating healthy fats. Sleep was very important aswell
In the end it will be individuel, but generally when you've used just testosterone, mast and anavar and no 19-nor roids and so on you will not loose much. Atleast i didn't

 

[Lisdex]

Good asf body transformation but did not do much for face like i see zygo is little bigger but could be lightning

Facial changes are mostly due to leaning down

 

[Lisdex]

hy would you say trt isnt good for teens, red more its good.

Howd you fix theat rib flare or was it just training.

TRT for teens are just fine, but it requires monitoring frequently. If this can be done, sure then it's fine if not better.
I just don't see myself doing that.

 

[MulletM1chas]

Facial changes are mostly due to leaning down

Surgerys also can change and some roids

 

[Lisdex]

Surgerys also can change and some roids

Of course, roids are very limited though if done in late puberty
Just talked about my example

 

[ikramy]

how long did you run pct ?

 

[Lisdex]

how long did you run pct ?

5 weeks overall

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

mirin

 

[Lisdex]

mirin

Thanks bhai