How are poor people religious

[babymoo]

Matthew 11:28-30​

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28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved
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@maad
@copester2

@Mainlander

@Micrognathic

@Abdullahm06

I dont know how my reply was relevant but alr

i have a question for you where is god

 

[maximus/]

Matthew 11:28-30​

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28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved
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@maad
@copester2

@Mainlander

@Micrognathic

@Abdullahm06

shut the fuck up

 

[csainte]

It's a common argument from dumb non Muslims

akhi muhammed didnt even write the quran

 

[babymoo]

It's a common argument from dumb non Muslims

If ur muslim can you answer my questions about islam

 

[ngannou]

I dont know how my reply was relevant but alr

i have a question for you where is god

God is above our time and space.

He came as flesh in our space and his name is Jesus Christ

the saviour of humanity froms sins

 

[babymoo]

God is above our time and space.

He came as flesh in our space and his name is Jesus Christ

the saviour of humanity froms sins

Okay aside from ur religous rant if god is above time and space how did it take him 6 eons to make everything, how could he have sat on thr thrown, will we see him during the day of judgement, same thing applied to jesus, also if you try to use the jesus nature method then malachi 2:6 disproves this has god cannot change nature

 

[maad]

Matthew 11:28-30​

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28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved
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@maad
@copester2

@Mainlander

@Micrognathic

@Abdullahm06

true

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

option a: answer the question upfront

option b: deflect because you dont know and ask someone to studly theology when i have for upwards of most my life

so please answer these questions

1.Why would god have a specific bias towards any religion

2.Why would people who dont believe in him or others face eternal punishment in hell

3.If you are Muslim or any religion where is god?

1. There are thousands of religions in the world, all preaching their seperate concepts, and it is correct that only one is true. God does not have a specific bias towards any religion, He has told us to follow only one religion which is Islam. The other religions are either corrupted versions of Islam(other abrahamic religions) or outright false. This is the Muslim view which I follow.
2. We believe that life is a big blessing and has a clear purpose: to worship God, follow His commands, and invite others to do the same. To deny the purpose of this blessing is to basically deny and reject life given by God, which is unacceptable. There is so much proof and evidence of God that it's understandable from a religious POV why eternal punishment is deserved.
3. I am Muslim, and God is above everything: the universe and the heavens.
He is watching everything yet He cannot be seen.
I suggest you read the Holy Quran if you want a better understanding

 

[ngannou]

Okay aside from ur religous rant if god is above time and space how did it take him 6 eons to make everything, how could he have sat on thr thrown, will we see him during the day of judgement, same thing applied to jesus, also if you try to use the jesus nature method then malachi 2:6 disproves this has god cannot change nature

doesn't really prove anything

Malachi 2:6

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6 True instruction was in his mouth and nothing false was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from sin.

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

akhi muhammed didnt even write the quran

This just proves the Quran is a book from God.
If the holy prophet couldn't read or write, then how could he "make" a book with a profound explanation of God and His teachings, the purpose of life and history ?

 

[csainte]

This just proves the Quran is a book from God.
If the holy prophet couldn't read or write, then how could he "make" a book with a profound explanation of God and His teachings, the purpose of life and history

he literally just told scribes to write the Quran and plenty of them stopped realizing how easy it is to edit it, not to mention most of the stuff he literally plagiarized like his stories of Jesus as a baby coming from gnostics

 

[babymoo]

1. There are thousands of religions in the world, all preaching their seperate concepts, and it is correct that only one is true. God does not have a specific bias towards any religion, He has told us to follow only one religion which is Islam. The other religions are either corrupted versions of Islam(other abrahamic religions) or outright false. This is the Muslim view which I follow.
2. We believe that life is a big blessing and has a clear purpose: to worship God, follow His commands, and invite others to do the same. To deny the purpose of this blessing is to basically deny and reject life given by God, which is unacceptable. There is so much proof and evidence of God that it's understandable from a religious POV why eternal punishment is deserved.
3. I am Muslim, and God is above everything: the universe and the heavens.
He is watching everything yet He cannot be seen.
I suggest you read the Holy Quran if you want a better understanding

>There are thousands of religions in the world, all preaching their seperate concepts, and it is correct that only one is true. God does not have a specific bias towards any religion, He has told us to follow only one religion which is Islam. The other religions are either corrupted versions of Islam(other abrahamic religions) or outright false. This is the Muslim view which I follow.

How is it correct that only one is true? Can you prove that he told only the muslims to follow him, also if other religious got corrupted by god wouldnt that go against your point of god being non bias if he only made a single religon non corrupted.

>We believe that life is a big blessing and has a clear purpose: to worship God, follow His commands, and invite others to do the same. To deny the purpose of this blessing is to basically deny and reject life given by God, which is unacceptable. There is so much proof and evidence of God that it's understandable from a religious POV why eternal punishment is deserved.

yet again another biased statement, why would god only give 1 religion the right to heaven and send everyone else to hellfire ? if a person whos heard of islam but decided not to follow it should they be sent to hell soley for that?

>I am Muslim, and God is above everything: the universe and the heavens.
He is watching everything yet He cannot be seen.
I suggest you read the Holy Quran if you want a better understanding

ur a jahil in islam god says multiple times hes above the throne and ur prophet even seen him above the heavens and on his throne, if thats the case will we see allah in the day of judgment?

 

[babymoo]

This just proves the Quran is a book from God.
If the holy prophet couldn't read or write, then how could he "make" a book with a profound explanation of God and His teachings, the purpose of life and history ?

Have you ever thought to consider that other followers of him who were muslim wrote the quran with him?

 

[babymoo]

doesn't really prove anything

Malachi 2:6​

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6 True instruction was in his mouth and nothing false was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from sin.

• Malachi 3:6 (ESV): “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."
  
  and if you want we can read the hebrew text

 

[ngannou]

• Malachi 3:6 (ESV): “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."
  
  and if you want we can read the hebrew text

Yeah he didn't change, he just came with human flesh

 

[babymoo]

the bible has been debated on for over 2000 years and genuinely makes way more sense then islam

i personally disagree, I think both religions have strong points and weaknesses but the bible really doesnt make sense

 

[csainte]

i personally disagree, I think both religions have strong points and weaknesses but the bible really doesnt make sense

what part doesn’t? from my perspective most of the stuff has been settled through apologetics, councils etc. also i got extremely intelligent christian friends if you want to ask them questions on discord

 

[babymoo]

Yeah he didn't change, he just came with human flesh

God jesus came with human flesh before anything was created and he waited another couple eons after everything was created to come out the womb of a virgin?

 

[babymoo]

what part doesn’t? from my perspective most of the stuff has been settled through apologetics, councils etc. also i got extremely intelligent christian friends if you want to ask them questions on discord

I dont really use discord but im a stranger on the internet so wether i change ur mind doesnt matter to me, what i want you to do is approch both of them without personal bias then speak ur mind. I feel like ur being hella biased towards the christian religion because maybe u grew up as christian

 

[csainte]

I dont really use discord but im a stranger on the internet so wether i change ur mind doesnt matter to me, what i want you to do is approch both of them without personal bias then speak ur mind. I feel like ur being hella biased towards the christian religion because maybe u grew up as christian

nah my dads agnostic and my moms muslim but there wasn’t any religious talk in the household so i researched into stuff myself

 

[ngannou]

God jesus came with human flesh before anything was created and he waited another couple eons after everything was created to come out the womb of a virgin?

He existed before the genesis he is the creator, he is the Word of God

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

he literally just told scribes to write the Quran and plenty of them stopped realizing how easy it is to edit it, not to mention most of the stuff he literally plagiarized like his stories of Jesus as a baby coming from gnostics

Oh my God brah I hate it when people don't respect my point of view in debates. Let me repeat it, NO HUMAN HAS WRITTEN THE CONTENTS OF THE QURAN. ALLAH HAD REVEALED HIS WORD TO THE HOLY PROPHET THROUGH THE ANGEL JIBRAEL (GABRIEL) TO MESSAGE IT TO HUMANITY. If the prophet couldn't read or write, how could he even tell the scribes to write it down in the first place ?
Bro, honestl, I'm sorry I can't reply rn I gtg out to a club but I encourage you to research Muslim content

 

[babymoo]

He existed before the genesis he is the creator, he is the Word of God

so did he have flesh before the genesis?

 

[Deleted member 76870]

You answered yourself it's cause they don't believe this world is a perfect heaven they believe this world is a test from god and it's unjust
No argument in this shit
You're starting from the conclusion lol

 

[ngannou]

so did he have flesh before the genesis?

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

You answered yourself it's cause they don't believe this world is a perfect heaven they believe this world is a test from god and it's unjust
No argument in this shit
You're starting from the conclusion lol

These people are so dumb istg
I pray for them to lower their egos

 

[bakpaokukus]

Niggas be poor as fuck &:got nothing, then unironically pray to God and believe God is muh "testing them"

??

it's a good cope for them tbh

 

[Deleted member 76870]

Oh my God brah I hate it when people don't respect my point of view in debates. Let me repeat it, NO HUMAN HAS WRITTEN THE CONTENTS OF THE QURAN. ALLAH HAD REVEALED HIS WORD TO THE HOLY PROPHET THROUGH THE ANGEL JIBRAEL (GABRIEL) TO MESSAGE IT TO HUMANITY. If the prophet couldn't read or write, how could he even tell the scribes to write it down in the first place ?
Bro, honestl, I'm sorry I can't reply rn I gtg out to a club but I encourage you to research Muslim content

It's a stupid argument anyway lol even if you assume he can write and read the stories of children of Israel is only in the talmud which wasn't translated to arabic until fucking 2012 lmao the quran also had lots of scientific facts before their discovery in such an ignorant environment that can only be explained through 2 things:
1- it's from god
2- it was taken from the greeks and other civilizations
If it was from the greeks for an example he would've needed to learn their language
The quran also had lots of theological arguments which means the writer knew them so he must've learned theology too but he was between ignorant polytheistic pagans
The quran writer also talked about many things that include science yet never made a scientific mistake in worst case scenarios he said words that can be understood into multiple ways which is weird cause science had a lot of misinformation
Take medicine as an example and fetal development in the mother's womb and compare the way that the quran and sunnah describes it and how science at that time describes it
This is what the most advanced people in medicine used to believe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism
Yet the quran never says this shit which means(for someone that doesn't believe it's from god) that mohamed saw was knowledgeable asf in medicine and ahead of most doctors at his time lol
Also the way mohamed saw corrects small details in the talmud shows that he wasn't only good at Hebrew and aramic he was also very knowledgeable in history
Plus the huge amounts of predictions that he said and came true isn't something to ignore
Plus the huge amounts of prophecies of him coming isn't also something to ignore
You either say he's a prophet or he's a guy in an ignorant poor environment that knew more than 5 languages and was great at them and had hundreds of books and spend thousands of days reading and memorising stuff and he was knowledgeable in every single field lol
No one can give a full explanation for mohamed SAW prophecy
If someone tried he will just make him the most knowledgeable human on earth at that time lol which contradicts his environment

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

It's a stupid argument anyway lol even if you assume he can write and read the stories of children of Israel is only in the talmud which wasn't translated to arabic until fucking 2012 lmao the quran also had lots of scientific facts before their discovery in such an ignorant environment that can only be explained through 2 things:
1- it's from god
2- it was taken from the greeks and other civilizations
If it was from the greeks for an example he would've needed to learn their language
The quran also had lots of theological arguments which means the writer knew them so he must've learned theology too but he was between ignorant polytheistic pagans
The quran writer also talked about many things that include science yet never made a scientific mistake in worst case scenarios he said words that can be understood into multiple ways which is weird cause science had a lot of misinformation
Take medicine as an example and fetal development in the mother's womb and compare the way that the quran and sunnah describes it and how science at that time describes it
This is what the most advanced people in medicine used to believe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism
Yet the quran never says this shit which means(for someone that doesn't believe it's from god) that mohamed saw was knowledgeable asf in medicine and ahead of most doctors at his time lol
Also the way mohamed saw corrects small details in the talmud shows that he wasn't only good at Hebrew and aramic he was also very knowledgeable in history
Plus the huge amounts of predictions that he said and came true isn't something to ignore
Plus the huge amounts of prophecies of him coming isn't also something to ignore
You either say he's a prophet or he's a guy in an ignorant poor environment that knew more than 5 languages and was great at them and had hundreds of books and spend thousands of days reading and memorising stuff and he was knowledgeable in every single field lol
No one can give a full explanation for mohamed SAW prophecy
If someone tried he will just make him the most knowledgeable human on earth at that time lol which contradicts his environment

Exactly
Also notice how these dumb cunts resort to making fun of my race and face while dodging my points and ignoring my argument
Cagefuel at it's finest

 

[asdvek]

Exactly
Also notice how these dumb cunts resort to making fun of my race and face while dodging my points and ignoring my argument
Cagefuel at it's finest

You didn't make any argument retard

 

[copester2]

Matthew 11:28-30​

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28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved
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@maad
@copester2

@Mainlander

@Micrognathic

@Abdullahm06

big fat dnr jewish religion

 

[Tr0ubLe]

I pray to gandy.
He even came to my dreams once lmaao. Agepill caught him in the dream tho