How come people are atheist

[anemo]

do you not believe in logic? if you do, they are proof.

"Do merely hours of research on metaphysics" JFL, the cosmological arguments as we know it are not fullproof and pretending there is a wide spread acceptance of them or that they instantly disprove an atheistic world is retarded

 

[anemo]

theres literally undeniable proof? but sure keep coping

 

[anemo]

I don’t even have anything to say because everything u said is just wrong and takes next to no evidence to prove that

Normally I try my best to ignore idiots like u but I just wanted to let u know ur completely fucking retarded

Ur only 15 so maybe in a few years you’ll realise ur mistakes but who knows

Its actually fucking hilarious. you people are beyond saving. its really impossible for you guys to form an argument? and before you start coping, read this thread not a single person was able to disprove me. Darkened intellect maxxing.

 

[anemo]

Are you completely dim witted ? Do I actually have to explain the most basic English sentence ? Seem like I have too . How does one struggle with the english language this much

you're own words here, surely you know a thing about humility ? make a big claim such as that you must be well versed in, oh wait

Did you completely skip over all of THIS, are you once again that deprived of proper education that you're unable to properly read. I've literally explained it all here for the blind.

laughable


You keep making it worse for yourself the more you speak. A few hours are you fucking serious ? A few hours and you came up with the conclusion that Atheism is ignorant ? I think its time you follow your own values and get back to ''researching'' because you've clearly engaged with other whom you've already aligned with prior, your research ?

RATIONAL ???? give it up. You cant form a rational argument after a few hours of anything. Especially when the author like yourself has not even touched the counter arguments.

Lets run an experiment

four people decide to see if evolution is in fact correct, lets see our volenteers

Person 1 : is going to read/skim over four hours of content on whatever platform they prefer
Person 2 : has already came to the conclusion that creationism is correct and is unwilling to put that aside for the experiment

Person 3: Is going to spend atleast a month researching the topic
Person 4: will be doing the same

now lets try and see our play results ?

Person 1 - Due to algorithmic bias, person one couldn't have formed a clear rational opinion on either side. as content would sway thus making it difficult to prove or disprove anything
Person 2 - Due to persons twos previous bias everything they've found has creationist undertones and a massive bias, due to the research they're able to repeat arguments from their research made by their author , this gives the appearance of a deep understanding but in reality it is quite shallow
Person 3- they've researched it fairly fine. they have a deep or atleast the deepest understanding possible when one spends a month. they're able to counter the spat out arguments unless its something they haven't heard before
Person 4- Same as above

All in all P3 and P4 all did better in my eyes atleast and have a superior understanding. Hopefully you can see that its impossible to come to any rational conclusion in less than a few hours of ''research'' like you.

actually read what im saying and you will understand i can dumb it down for you unless i plan to ruin my point


Dumb fool, do i really need to quote both of our posts again

this is how you started the argument, the proof of god is on you ! There is no ''metaphysical argument'' im trying prove, im critiquing you, your post and the claim you've made. I dont understand how someone can be this idiotic.

This is a direct response to your starter post. Please show me where in your starter post you gave this breathtaking metaphysical argument, can you do that Saint Anemo ?

You're a retard. Everyone knows that these arguments exists the problem is no one here cares as im sure you know well by now your own starter post said

Once again if you wanted this to be worth while you wouldnt have started it with a closed mind. btw its on you to form the argument and its on you to prove the miracles. Im not sure how you manage to be this stupid .

I've said so much haven't I, saint anemo ? Although i suppose i cant expect a NF fan to be too intelligent. Ontop of that properly space your paragraphs out properly so that it isnt ugly to read , ok saint anemo ?

Nether the less lets begin with this shitty argument

I wouldnt know what explains the existence of these things. Do you think we have a reason for existing ? Do you actually think a all powerful being created life than life on other planets because he loved us so much ? Dont be delusional. There doesnt need to be a reason for existence and thinking other whys is homo centric. Lets through my question out of the car for abit, Why do i need to explain the reason for the universe existence ?

Seriously why do I? The only reason why i'd need to do that if im trying to prove the existence of god. Ultimately your doing what religous people have always done inserting God into eras of the unknown and the unexplained. Enjoy your cope. We as humans simply cannot know everything and inserting god into the unexplained like you just did achieves nothing.

Do you read the thing i send you ? Hes omnicidal because he commits omnicide, i literally gave you examples of him committing it .What are you on ?????

Are that retarded? He all knowing and he knowingly created adam and eve knowing that they would commit the first sin, knowing that damn the rest of knowing he would commit omnicide and leave only noah and others to repopulate knowing that they would sin again. Does this not smell of the work of an omnicidal childish sadistic narcy god ?

Are you fucking retarded ? i know i've asked this question before but dude you have to take an IQ test and dispel the sound rumours that you are retarded, i am seriously. you have every one here calling you retarded and rightfully so and you havent done any self reflection. How can you come to the conclusion that you're the intelligent one and everyone else came to the wrong conclusion

Nether the less lets continue to debunk your nonsense so lets go a little deeper, FYI how can you worship someone that wants to send you to hell for a sin you didnt commit.

@arthurfish have i lost the plot, this guys an actual retard but lets continue

The more you speak the worse you make God look. Yes thats horrible, how can one person be that sadistic ? Creating life knowing they would rebel and knowing that their creation would be flawed, knowing they would spread suffer on each other, knowing they would all go on to die and drown at the hands of a sadistic god ? He clearly enjoys killing and our suffering since lets it happen all time. Certain people are born to be depressed due to the nature of their genes, these genes would later make kill themselves. Note when i say born i mean develop certain people have higher chances of being depressed

torturing people in hell isnt enough proof, creating an shitty human with a shitty life and a shitty future. Everything i said isnt enough proof. What else do you need ?How can someone be all good and do this

Sin being ? Besides that i dont give a fuck about Catholicism im talking abour Christianity in general, You're living in a hell like world all because of the fault of two people, do you seriously think you deserve punishment for something you did when people have done worse

Once again you are retarded and unable to read.

Wrote a fucking essay and still havent refuted my argument. youre so sad. i feel bad for you i really do. youre deliberately misrepresenting what i said about research, and you yourself know that. just let me know when you can actually give me an argument and not spam ad homs

 

[anemo]

Are you completely dim witted ? Do I actually have to explain the most basic English sentence ? Seem like I have too . How does one struggle with the english language this much

you're own words here, surely you know a thing about humility ? make a big claim such as that you must be well versed in, oh wait

Did you completely skip over all of THIS, are you once again that deprived of proper education that you're unable to properly read. I've literally explained it all here for the blind.

laughable


You keep making it worse for yourself the more you speak. A few hours are you fucking serious ? A few hours and you came up with the conclusion that Atheism is ignorant ? I think its time you follow your own values and get back to ''researching'' because you've clearly engaged with other whom you've already aligned with prior, your research ?

RATIONAL ???? give it up. You cant form a rational argument after a few hours of anything. Especially when the author like yourself has not even touched the counter arguments.

Lets run an experiment

four people decide to see if evolution is in fact correct, lets see our volenteers

Person 1 : is going to read/skim over four hours of content on whatever platform they prefer
Person 2 : has already came to the conclusion that creationism is correct and is unwilling to put that aside for the experiment

Person 3: Is going to spend atleast a month researching the topic
Person 4: will be doing the same

now lets try and see our play results ?

Person 1 - Due to algorithmic bias, person one couldn't have formed a clear rational opinion on either side. as content would sway thus making it difficult to prove or disprove anything
Person 2 - Due to persons twos previous bias everything they've found has creationist undertones and a massive bias, due to the research they're able to repeat arguments from their research made by their author , this gives the appearance of a deep understanding but in reality it is quite shallow
Person 3- they've researched it fairly fine. they have a deep or atleast the deepest understanding possible when one spends a month. they're able to counter the spat out arguments unless its something they haven't heard before
Person 4- Same as above

All in all P3 and P4 all did better in my eyes atleast and have a superior understanding. Hopefully you can see that its impossible to come to any rational conclusion in less than a few hours of ''research'' like you.

actually read what im saying and you will understand i can dumb it down for you unless i plan to ruin my point


Dumb fool, do i really need to quote both of our posts again

this is how you started the argument, the proof of god is on you ! There is no ''metaphysical argument'' im trying prove, im critiquing you, your post and the claim you've made. I dont understand how someone can be this idiotic.

This is a direct response to your starter post. Please show me where in your starter post you gave this breathtaking metaphysical argument, can you do that Saint Anemo ?

You're a retard. Everyone knows that these arguments exists the problem is no one here cares as im sure you know well by now your own starter post said

Once again if you wanted this to be worth while you wouldnt have started it with a closed mind. btw its on you to form the argument and its on you to prove the miracles. Im not sure how you manage to be this stupid .

I've said so much haven't I, saint anemo ? Although i suppose i cant expect a NF fan to be too intelligent. Ontop of that properly space your paragraphs out properly so that it isnt ugly to read , ok saint anemo ?

Nether the less lets begin with this shitty argument

I wouldnt know what explains the existence of these things. Do you think we have a reason for existing ? Do you actually think a all powerful being created life than life on other planets because he loved us so much ? Dont be delusional. There doesnt need to be a reason for existence and thinking other whys is homo centric. Lets through my question out of the car for abit, Why do i need to explain the reason for the universe existence ?

Seriously why do I? The only reason why i'd need to do that if im trying to prove the existence of god. Ultimately your doing what religous people have always done inserting God into eras of the unknown and the unexplained. Enjoy your cope. We as humans simply cannot know everything and inserting god into the unexplained like you just did achieves nothing.

Do you read the thing i send you ? Hes omnicidal because he commits omnicide, i literally gave you examples of him committing it .What are you on ?????

Are that retarded? He all knowing and he knowingly created adam and eve knowing that they would commit the first sin, knowing that damn the rest of knowing he would commit omnicide and leave only noah and others to repopulate knowing that they would sin again. Does this not smell of the work of an omnicidal childish sadistic narcy god ?

Are you fucking retarded ? i know i've asked this question before but dude you have to take an IQ test and dispel the sound rumours that you are retarded, i am seriously. you have every one here calling you retarded and rightfully so and you havent done any self reflection. How can you come to the conclusion that you're the intelligent one and everyone else came to the wrong conclusion

Nether the less lets continue to debunk your nonsense so lets go a little deeper, FYI how can you worship someone that wants to send you to hell for a sin you didnt commit.

@arthurfish have i lost the plot, this guys an actual retard but lets continue

The more you speak the worse you make God look. Yes thats horrible, how can one person be that sadistic ? Creating life knowing they would rebel and knowing that their creation would be flawed, knowing they would spread suffer on each other, knowing they would all go on to die and drown at the hands of a sadistic god ? He clearly enjoys killing and our suffering since lets it happen all time. Certain people are born to be depressed due to the nature of their genes, these genes would later make kill themselves. Note when i say born i mean develop certain people have higher chances of being depressed

torturing people in hell isnt enough proof, creating an shitty human with a shitty life and a shitty future. Everything i said isnt enough proof. What else do you need ?How can someone be all good and do this

Sin being ? Besides that i dont give a fuck about Catholicism im talking abour Christianity in general, You're living in a hell like world all because of the fault of two people, do you seriously think you deserve punishment for something you did when people have done worse

Once again you are retarded and unable to read.

your biggest response to the contingency argument is literally “why do i need to explain why the universe exists?” you don't have to. you can just believe reality is a brute fact. but that's rejecting the explanatory principle. so and again, get back to me when you can make an actual argument.

 

[Hess]

do you not believe in logic? if you do, they are proof.

Owned by Kant

 

[anemo]

Owned by Kant

not sure what you mean by this, but im not lutheran

 

[Eggbert]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

Sounds like someone hasn't watched Rick and morty.

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Its actually fucking hilarious. you people are beyond saving. its really impossible for you guys to form an argument? and before you start coping, read this thread not a single person was able to disprove me. Darkened intellect maxxing.

Because people are too lazy to, and even if they couldn’t, it isn’t our job to disprove, it’s ur job to prove, which u also can’t.

If I told u I was able to fly like superman, you wouldn’t assume I’m telling the truth just because u can’t prove me wrong, it would be my job to prove it to you, and until I do, the assumption would be that I’m lying. And religion works in the same way.

 

[anemo]

Superman analogy completely misses the point, but clearly you are low iq so not much more i can expect. if i say “i can fly,” that's a random empirical claim with no reason for you to accept it. obviously the burden is on me. but saying God exists isn't being presented as a random claim like i have superpowers. it's a metaphysical conclusion argued from premises about reality itself.
contingent things don't contain the reason for their own existence.
the contingent reality we observe therefore requires an explanation beyond itself.
an infinite regress of nothing but dependent explanations never gives you something that exists independently.
therefore reality ultimately requires something non contingent- a necessary being. Now, until you can refute those arguments with a completely logical rebuttal, stfu.

Because people are too lazy to, and even if they couldn’t, it isn’t our job to disprove, it’s ur job to prove, which u also can’t.

If I told u I was able to fly like superman, you wouldn’t assume I’m telling the truth just because u can’t prove me wrong, it would be my job to prove it to you, and until I do, the assumption would be that I’m lying. And religion works in the same way.

 

[AbnormalAfrican]

your biggest response to the contingency argument is literally “why do i need to explain why the universe exists?” you don't have to. you can just believe reality is a brute fact. but that's rejecting the explanatory principle. so and again, get back to me when you can make an actual argument.

Nigga you didn't read a molecule of what I wrote.do you want me to write that again and have to dumb it down to you like they do to kids in special ed

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Superman analogy completely misses the point, but clearly you are low iq so not much more i can expect. if i say “i can fly,” that's a random empirical claim with no reason for you to accept it. obviously the burden is on me. but saying God exists isn't being presented as a random claim like i have superpowers. it's a metaphysical conclusion argued from premises about reality itself.
contingent things don't contain the reason for their own existence.
the contingent reality we observe therefore requires an explanation beyond itself.
an infinite regress of nothing but dependent explanations never gives you something that exists independently.
therefore reality ultimately requires something non contingent- a necessary being. Now, until you can refute those arguments with a completely logical rebuttal, stfu.

Ur right in the fact that my analogy isn’t perfect, but if ur not a complete retard u should understand it in the way I meant. The problem is you clearly don’t have much understanding of science or the universe itself, as if you did you’d find it’s very difficult to come to the conclusion that religion could exist.

If we were having this debate a year ago I would be typing out paragraphs and paragraphs disproving your points but I’ve since had hours and hours of debates about it and just am not interested anymore

I can’t sit and disprove every idiot like u as it would take billions of years I’m sure. And I’m also sure the other people in this thread would agree with that point. Hopefully at some point someone much less lazy than me will put in the effort to make u see the truth, but until then maybe study up on some astrophysics and quantum physics and stop making embarrassing posts on .org exposing urself for being fucking stupid

It’s late and I’m tired so I apologise if parts of this don’t make sense

 

[anemo]

Ur right in the fact that my analogy isn’t perfect, but if ur not a complete retard u should understand it in the way I meant. The problem is you clearly don’t have much understanding of science or the universe itself, as if you did you’d find it’s very difficult to come to the conclusion that religion could exist.

If we were having this debate a year ago I would be typing out paragraphs and paragraphs disproving your points but I’ve since had hours and hours of debates about it and just am not interested anymore

I can’t sit and disprove every idiot like u as it would take billions of years I’m sure. And I’m also sure the other people in this thread would agree with that point. Hopefully at some point someone much less lazy than me will put in the effort to make u see the truth, but until then maybe study up on some astrophysics and quantum physics and stop making embarrassing posts on .org exposing urself for being fucking stupid

It’s late and I’m tired so I apologise if parts of this don’t make sense

Sum it up to "i could refute you but i dont feel like it" yeah just another nigga who cant form an argument

 

[SPAM]

ATHEISM IS LOW T

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Sum it up to "i could refute you but i dont feel like it" yeah just another nigga who cant form an argument

What ur doing is equivalent to asking people that dont like you to do your homework, that will take substantial time and effort, for absolutely nothing in return, and then because they obviously say no, you say it’s because they aren’t able to do the homework, or even that the homework doesn’t exist.

And may I say, you have also provided 0 evidence, so I could say the same about you

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

ATHEISM IS LOW T

Religion is low t cause it’s pathetic cope to deal with the fact that our reality is pretty grim

A real high t man would understand how shit our reality is but would keep moving with their life anyway and not get depressed by it

 

[SPAM]

Religion is low t cause it’s pathetic cope to deal with the fact that our reality is pretty grim

A real high t man would understand how shit our reality is but would keep moving with their life anyway and not get depressed by it

NO BECAUSE IT OPENS THE GATES FOR WOMAN TO BE WHORE RELIGION IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING THEM IN CHECK. THEY ALWAYS SUBMIT TO THE STRONGEST AUTHORITHY, AT THE MOMENT ITS THE GOVERNMENT

 

[Mecha-Man]

Being explicitly told to create more families doesnt apply to looksmaxxing? how do you think you start one bro? do i need to tell you abt the birds and the bees? I never said it encouraged the pursuit of sex outside of marriage but how do you think you are suppose to get married in the first place?

Crazy almost as if the bible encourages multiple ways of life for christians (monkhood, priesthood or being a family patriarch) you have to be gigaretarded to think that these are contradictory or that you have to only endorse one way of life

This verse was explicitly done to disencourage people who believed that gained wealth was a sign of god's favour so jesus flipped the view and said wealth could be a trap that tempts you with sin, when asked how can man be saved jesus replied with god alone, the verse isnt saying being rich is "bad" this is a bad faith interpretation

Also another shitty interpretation of scripture, when they speak of the world in this instance they are speaking abt spiritual moral vales, systems, attitudes and behaviours that leave god out, chasing sensory gratification over moral boundaries. pure greed and pure arrogrance, the verse is not a command to reject the material world, especially since God created the phsyical earth, called it good and expects humans to take care of it
1 Timothy 4:4-5:

Colossians 2:20-23 ESV​

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.


When jesus states in luke 14:33 (i assume this is the verse you are speaking of?) "Those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples," the greek word he uses for give up here (apotassomai) means to renounce owernship and say goodbye to something, when he tells his disciples to say goodbye and be ready to give up everything he is not telling them to literally abandon all of their belongings but that they must transfer the ownership deed so to say of their life to god, viewing their material belongings not as personal property but as resources owned by god and to be managed for his purposes (a feudal serf may live in and own a farm and directs its direction and what to do with it but the nobleman above him still owns the land, this is what jesus is asking of his disciples in that verse, not to literally give up all their material belongings and be a monk)

You engage in the exact same slave like morality that christians do, you don't hate christianity for any logical reasons but do it out of some petty resentment online, and no, I am not christian yes, I am a proponent of nietzsche personally I just think your attempt at rejecting christianity was pathetic and stupid.

And just to explicitly clarify before you try to use this as an argument against me, I am not arguing that slaying or slay culture or whatever is christian, but that looksmaxxing is essential if you want to actually do well in long term datingl, how do you expect to get married if no women is attracted to you? @Mecha-Man

Why are you responding to others and tagging me? Lol.

Are you asking me that question or are you trying to highlight me as a prime example of someone who won't get married and attracts no women?

This thread is boring. You mentioned elsewhere in here that the "Bible encourages many ways of living" but my whole point was that it's contradictory, lacks consistency in its principles, but is still, overwhelmingly, trying to teach people to be minimalist with their materialistic possessions and abstain from sex out of wedlock. That is very much so against much of looksmaxxing. Nobody is looksmaxxing to get married. They're looksmaxxing to acquire as many attractive partners as they can. Christians are just coping losers.

Why are you quoting Bible verses. I am not reading a single one of those. I have a very strong noise filter. If I detect information thrown at me is junk and noise, I dnr them. Bible verses trigger that filter immediately.

 

[anemo]

Hey dumbass, the difference is I actually gave you an argument and you gave me “i could refute it but i don't feel like it. if the argument is that easy to destroy, naming the failed premise should be effortless??? you fucking cant. 90 iq tops lmao. idk if you can even comprehend the arguments

What ur doing is equivalent to asking people that dont like you to do your homework, that will take substantial time and effort, for absolutely nothing in return, and then because they obviously say no, you say it’s because they aren’t able to do the homework, or even that the homework doesn’t exist.

And may I say, you have also provided 0 evidence, so I could say the same about you

 

[India lover 52]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

Because they have gone through 12 years of goverment mandated brainwashing (public school), the same system whos history books were written by Ghislaine Maxwell's dad

and in this brainwashing program they teach a heliolatry sun-worship heliocentric model of the universe and other anti religious propaganda like evolution and the big bang theory

all of these are theories but the school system teaches them as objective fact despite being controversial in the actual scientific community, not the less than 10% of scientific research that gets published (google it real statistic), in this system the publishers/peer reviewers control the "truth" and of course they will never publish anything that goes against their agenda

the same people who claim to "believe in the scientific method" blindly follow what the top scientific journals tell them and worship this system as "science", quite literally as im sure you have heard people say stuff like "i believe in science not your sky daddy" acting like there is concrete and definitive proof of their own religious belief system ("science")

from the dawn of humanity to the enlightenment 99% of scientific research came from religious institutions yet most flouride filled americans are so dumb if you tell them "religion is anti science" and implement a grading system where you are rewarded for following the narrative you are taught and punished for questioning it (the opposite of every single educational system in history before the enlightment) then you can convince them to believe in a nilhistic religion thats entire purpose revolves around being anti-religion

if your wondering why all this started happened around the enlightenment ask yourself why lucifer is called the "light bringer" and why the statue of liberty is modeled after him

 

[India lover 52]

Why are you quoting Bible verses. I am not reading a single one of those. I have a very strong noise filter. If I detect information thrown at me is junk and noise, I dnr them. Bible verses trigger that filter immediately.

flouride filled pesudeo-science government brainwashing raging in full effect

just quoting the holy book was enough to trigger his social conditioning/brainwashing from public school to the point he couldn't even finish reading the quote, this is how demons respond to bible verses in Christian doctrine lol

 

[accinr]

tell god to make me a 6'6 chad and ill believe
otherwise, god is tales simple as is
inb4 free will fallen world cope

 

[accinr]

demons

tales

 

[accinr]

theres literally undeniable proof? but sure keep coping

show it then nigga omfg stop waffling nonesense

 

[ascensionneeeded]

i’m an atheist because there is no compelling evidence for any sort of god to exist. in my opinion, religion is a coping mechanism.

i understand why people practise religion but in terms of making any claims about a truth value, agnosticism is the best position

what i mean is that everyone should be technically agnostic, whether they identify as religious or not. but in terms of practising a religion, i think it’s fine to go to church and read the bible and so fourth. just don’t claim it to be objectively true for everyone

 

[India lover 52]

Its actually fucking hilarious. you people are beyond saving. its really impossible for you guys to form an argument? and before you start coping, read this thread not a single person was able to disprove me. Darkened intellect maxxing.

Wrote a fucking essay and still havent refuted my argument. youre so sad. i feel bad for you i really do. youre deliberately misrepresenting what i said about research, and you yourself know that. just let me know when you can actually give me an argument and not spam ad homs

dont waste your time hes been too brainwashed to the point where he takes any religious debate as a personal attack

most of these athiests are just trying to prove they are smarter than religious people because they follow "logic" (what they were taught in the goverment brainwashing program)

you know what they say its hard to win a argument against a smart person but even harder to win against a idiot

 

[Mecha-Man]

flouride filled pesudeo-science government brainwashing raging in full effect

just quoting the holy book was enough to trigger his social conditioning/brainwashing from public school to the point he couldn't even finish reading the quote, this is how demons respond to bible verses in Christian doctrine lol

Lol just shut up and keep praying.

Head to the floor now. Bow bitch. Made daddy in the sky proud.

 

[Mecha-Man]

dont waste your time hes been too brainwashed to the point where he takes any religious debate as a personal attack

most of these athiests are just trying to prove they are smarter than religious people because they follow "logic" (what they were taught in the goverment brainwashing program)

you know what they say its hard to win a argument against a smart person but even harder to win against a idiot

Anyone who takes the time to debate a Christian just doesn't know any better. It's like trying to clean dogshit. Doesn't make sense. You cannot clean shit itself.

 

[ICXCLuvr]

how can you be religious and blackpilled at the same time JFL

religion is a cope and waste of time even IF it were true

Fry

 

[India lover 52]

i’m an atheist because there is no compelling evidence for any sort of god to exist. in my opinion, religion is a coping mechanism.

i understand why people practise religion but in terms of making any claims about a truth value, agnosticism is the best position

what i mean is that everyone should be technically agnostic, whether they identify as religious or not. but in terms of practising a religion, i think it’s fine to go to church and read the bible and so fourth. just don’t claim it to be objectively true for everyone

then provide "compelling evidence" of the big bang theory or whatever belief system you believe in, theres no definitive proof of any "scientific" theory of creation

over 200 people witnessed the ressuerection of jesus and nobody claimed it didn't happen until hundreds of years later, the only "scientific" explanation is that a crowd of jews, romans and whoever else was there all decided to make up a story to create a religion on the spot despite the government persecuting and killing any Christians at the time

 

[anemo]

Because they have gone through 12 years of goverment mandated brainwashing (public school), the same system whos history books were written by Ghislaine Maxwell's dad

and in this brainwashing program they teach a heliolatry sun-worship heliocentric model of the universe and other anti religious propaganda like evolution and the big bang theory

all of these are theories but the school system teaches them as objective fact despite being controversial in the actual scientific community, not the less than 10% of scientific research that gets published (google it real statistic), in this system the publishers/peer reviewers control the "truth" and of course they will never publish anything that goes against their agenda

the same people who claim to "believe in the scientific method" blindly follow what the top scientific journals tell them and worship this system as "science", quite literally as im sure you have heard people say stuff like "i believe in science not your sky daddy" acting like there is concrete and definitive proof of their own religious belief system ("science")

from the dawn of humanity to the enlightenment 99% of scientific research came from religious institutions yet most flouride filled americans are so dumb if you tell them "religion is anti science" and implement a grading system where you are rewarded for following the narrative you are taught and punished for questioning it (the opposite of every single educational system in history before the enlightment) then you can convince them to believe in a nilhistic religion thats entire purpose revolves around being anti-religion

if your wondering why all this started happened around the enlightenment ask yourself why lucifer is called the "light bringer" and why the statue of liberty is modeled after himView attachment 5719195View attachment 5719196

I’ve been coming around to this idea over the past 2 years that public schools are the worst thing to happen to society. So glad my family is homeschooled

 

[India lover 52]

Lol just shut up and keep praying.

Head to the floor now. Bow bitch. Made daddy in the sky proud.

Anyone who takes the time to debate a Christian just doesn't know any better. It's like trying to clean dogshit. Doesn't make sense. You cannot clean shit itself.

just proving my point lol

no Christian has ever gotten mad at an atheist for not believing we are simply trying to save your soul from hell

however atheists take everything as a personal attack because they think with their emotions instead of their mind

like how you did not provide a single counterclaim and instead left multiple replies melting down and throwing a tantrum at the mere suggestion that the government and public school system does not have your best interests at heart


also why are atheists always so mad? is it because your nilhistic brainwashed view of the world would make anybody depressed or is it a defense mechanism because your scared in the back of your head that christians are right and you will have to atone for your sins one day

 

[sub5jack]

u believe a floating man in the sky that you cant see or hear
that is the biggest cope i have ever seen kys nigga

 

[India lover 52]

I’ve been coming around to this idea over the past 2 years that public schools are the worst thing to happen to society. So glad my family is homeschooled

your lucky man my whole family is religious besides my dad and hes a miserable human like most athiests, i used to stay up all night as a little kid petrified of death because he told me once you die everything just goes black for eternity

 

[India lover 52]

u believe a floating man in the sky that you cant see or hear
that is the biggest cope i have ever seen kys nigga

bio and username checks out

before you go worship the sun or whatever you atheists do you mind sharing why the mere mention of religion makes you all so angry and mad? This has only started happening in the past few decades when everyone is online all the time now or are you just too scared to say this IRL?

 

[sub5jack]

bio and username checks out

before you go worship the sun or whatever you atheists do you mind sharing why the mere mention of religion makes you all so angry and mad? This has only started happening in the past few decades when everyone is online all the time now or are you just too scared to say this IRL?

no most atheists are mad
because 95% of the time if you mention it you will be shamed or looked at as weird and for worshipping the sun??? i worship nobody/thing

 

[India lover 52]

no most atheists are mad
because 95% of the time if you mention it you will be shamed or looked at as weird and for worshipping the sun??? i worship nobody/thing

huh weird where i live its the other way around you will get looked at weird for being religious jfl fucking California man

if you believe the earth revolves around the sun you are practicing sun worship which traces back to the bronze age semitic idol worship and roman sun worship a little bit later

also worshipping is a innate human instinct, if you don't worship god then you will worship something else, like how reddit atheists worship "science" teenage/middle aged women worship celebrities, how drug addicts in denial worship drugs, how gen z worships influencers, how some psl autists worship models (hence the term "psl god") ect

Worship means showing deep respect, love, or devotion to a divine being, or holding someone or something in extremely high regard https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worship

just because you arn't praying to something doesn't mean you arn't worshipping them if your constantly thinking about them or hold them in extremely high regard

 

[sub5jack]

huh weird where i live its the other way around you will get looked at weird for being religious jfl fucking California man

if you believe the earth revolves around the sun you are practicing sun worship which traces back to the bronze age semitic idol worship and roman sun worship a little bit later

also worshipping is a innate human instinct, if you don't worship god then you will worship something else, like how reddit atheists worship "science" teenage/middle aged women worship celebrities, how drug addicts in denial worship drugs, how gen z worships influencers, how some psl autists worship models (hence the term "psl god") ect

Worship means showing deep respect, love, or devotion to a divine being, or holding someone or something in extremely high regard https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worship

just because you arn't praying to something doesn't mean you arn't worshipping them if your constantly thinking about them or hold them in extremely high regard

i understand but I just believe in the theories that have evidence behind them that’s not worshipping science
but that definitely sounds better than a being that is passed down in folktales

 

[India lover 52]

i understand but I just believe in the theories that have evidence behind them that’s not worshipping science
but that definitely sounds better than a being that is passed down in folktales

you say there is "evidence" behind them but i guarantee you have not actually looked at the "Evidence" if your saying this your just repeating what your science teacher taught you in school, its not really your fault but you should actually do your research before you come to a conclusion

im not even going to start with the NASA rabbit hole because that instantly sets off most peoples sleeper agent esque social conditioning if you don't believe everything a governemnt agency named "to decieve" in hebrew tells you about their magical billion dollar cameras that supposedly can view objects that are trillions of light years away, just think about how long a light year is for a second, its absurd to think we can view anything that is even a single light year away if space is supposedly filled with space dust and debris wouldn't you just be zooming in on difference peices of dust?


the only "evidence" for the big bang theory btw is that distant galaxies supposedly look a little bit reddish, some 's detected a microwave signal in the sky in the 60's and the supposed chemical makeup of starts or something (how would we have any idea what a star is made of by looking at it, nothing has ever gotten remotely close to a star, they claim this because of how light supposedly bounces off a star or something and they claim this told them the exact ratio of gasses inside a star)

ALL of this comes from nasa too, you cannot find a single independent "proof" of the big bang from any other entity


so you can either blindly follow (have faith) in god or nasa, either way you have to pick a single entity to blindly trust with no evidence or proof

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Hey dumbass, the difference is I actually gave you an argument and you gave me “i could refute it but i don't feel like it. if the argument is that easy to destroy, naming the failed premise should be effortless??? you fucking cant. 90 iq tops lmao. idk if you can even comprehend the arguments

Omfg ur so tiring, I never said ur argument is easy to destroy, in fact I specifically said it would take several paragraphs, which would obviously take time and effort to type out. What I’m saying is me and other people on here aren’t gonna want to do that for nothing in return, especially for a dick like you.

Also, I don’t know why you’d need to come on here and ask for proof from us when we live in the age of internet and more specifically, YouTube. There’s countless videos proving all ur arguments wrong that you could search for anytime but the reality is that ur probably ignoring them. You like to watch videos and do research that proves and consolidates your own beliefs, but ignore the many that go against you.

I also try not to engage in debates anymore because the reality is that they never go anywhere. Even if you were to prove the other person wrong, likely hood is that they were never debating to find the truth to begin with, and so never opened their mind to the other argument, and therefore will never admit that they’re wrong. The only way a debate can come to the truth in the end is if both sides have 100% knowledge of both topics and surrounding topics, and they each have infinite time between responses, which is obviously impossible within a human lifetime.

I’m honestly tempted to link you the videos you need to watch to save u the time but I want to know that you’d actually watch them and take them into consideration first. I’m not asking you to instantly change ur opinion, just take it into consideration.

 

[ascensionneeeded]

then provide "compelling evidence" of the big bang theory or whatever belief system you believe in, theres no definitive proof of any "scientific" theory of creation

over 200 people witnessed the ressuerection of jesus and nobody claimed it didn't happen until hundreds of years later, the only "scientific" explanation is that a crowd of jews, romans and whoever else was there all decided to make up a story to create a religion on the spot despite the government persecuting and killing any Christians at the time

i don’t think you know what the big bang is

maybe look up the cosmic microwave background

and yes, the origin of the universe can’t be explained with compelling evidence

i simply don’t believe there was a man called jesus who could walk on water and turn water into wine

bear in mind, there have been so-called ‘witches’ that have been killed for thousands of years despite just being regular people

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Because they have gone through 12 years of goverment mandated brainwashing (public school), the same system whos history books were written by Ghislaine Maxwell's dad

and in this brainwashing program they teach a heliolatry sun-worship heliocentric model of the universe and other anti religious propaganda like evolution and the big bang theory

all of these are theories but the school system teaches them as objective fact despite being controversial in the actual scientific community, not the less than 10% of scientific research that gets published (google it real statistic), in this system the publishers/peer reviewers control the "truth" and of course they will never publish anything that goes against their agenda

the same people who claim to "believe in the scientific method" blindly follow what the top scientific journals tell them and worship this system as "science", quite literally as im sure you have heard people say stuff like "i believe in science not your sky daddy" acting like there is concrete and definitive proof of their own religious belief system ("science")

from the dawn of humanity to the enlightenment 99% of scientific research came from religious institutions yet most flouride filled americans are so dumb if you tell them "religion is anti science" and implement a grading system where you are rewarded for following the narrative you are taught and punished for questioning it (the opposite of every single educational system in history before the enlightment) then you can convince them to believe in a nilhistic religion thats entire purpose revolves around being anti-religion

if your wondering why all this started happened around the enlightenment ask yourself why lucifer is called the "light bringer" and why the statue of liberty is modeled after himView attachment 5719195View attachment 5719196

There’s no definitive proof of anything, but you have to look at the % chance of it being true, for example the big bang, we literally have photo evidence of it. Now that doesn’t mean it’s 100% confirmed, but it’s still 99% confirmed. Whereas everything in religion has like 1% of being true. But religious people seem to ignore everything in between 100% and 0% and act like it has equal % chance of being true.

Also, you talk about atheistic brainwashing in schools but that is just not the case, and in some schools it’s the opposite. There’s not much in the science you learn in that level of school that actually disproves religion, for example the big bang. It doesn’t actually disprove religion at all, it could’ve been god starting to create the universe. Although the fact that it happened several billion years ago instead of a couple thousand does contradict the bible.

No one is trying to brainwash anyone with atheism, it’s not even a belief itself, it’s just a lack of belief. It’s similar to how 0 is not a number, but instead the lack of a number