How do you guys even manage to bulk without quitting?

[sirmimbing]

yeah same, hollow cheeks > slightly more strenght and muscles

Exactly bro I lowkey get a hardon everytime I see my face lean

 

[ilovenicotine]

I starvemaxxed myself from 90kg to 70kg (6'3) and I feel fucking digusting above 74/75kg. I'm so bloated I look like a god damn water buffalo, and for what? A bit of muscles that arent arent even promised? I love seeing a lean face with hollow cheeks so why tf should I ruin my face for half the year?
Props to any of you who manage to stick through a bulk cus this shit is torture. Imma just leanmaxx myself down to 65-70kg instead cus starting a bulk if you're above like 8% bodyfat is gonna fuck my mental health up

100 cal surplus over 2-3 years. Natty issues sadly but face > physique

 

[Deleted member 66828]

Exactly bro I lowkey get a hardon everytime I see my face lean

frfr

 

[highinhibcel]

I don't bulk. Lean is law

 

[Avirochad]

I starvemaxxed myself from 90kg to 70kg (6'3) and I feel fucking digusting above 74/75kg. I'm so bloated I look like a god damn water buffalo, and for what? A bit of muscles that arent arent even promised? I love seeing a lean face with hollow cheeks so why tf should I ruin my face for half the year?
Props to any of you who manage to stick through a bulk cus this shit is torture. Imma just leanmaxx myself down to 65-70kg instead cus starting a bulk if you're above like 8% bodyfat is gonna fuck my mental health up

you have mental disorders

 

[sirmimbing]

you have mental disorders

probably

 

[sirmimbing]

I don't bulk. Lean is law

lowkey yeah this is how i feel too

 

[n9wiff]

Omg are you retarded ? How do you gain muscle as a natural at Maintaience ?! Theres a reason why its called maintainece, you need to be in a surplus to grow as a natural or else your going to remain the same and at best increase your lifts by 2.5kg totally. The diet part about macros and micros are correct, same with cardio to fire up the metobalism.

He is far from his natural limit so he can get away with it. I built muscle on a cut when I started working out ( recomp ) as a natural. I also already stated that it would be harder obv

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

He is far from his natural limit so he can get away with it. I built muscle on a cut when I started working out ( recomp ) as a natural. I also already stated that it would be harder obv

This only applies to newbies/ beginners, after the 1st year of lifting this will not work.

 

[Deleted member 67562]

first year of lifting you should barely gain any fat if your metabolism is on point and your muscle building genetics aren't dogshit. You shouldn't bulk longer for 12-16 weeks a time though. I'm gonna try bulking for like 12-16 weeks with a 200-300 surplus and then minicut for a few weeks if I feel like I've got some unwanted fat and basically rinse and repeat this. Most gymcels bulk for like 2+ years straight and then get to like 20%+ bodyfat and look bloated and ugly

 

[sirmimbing]

first year of lifting you should barely gain any fat if your metabolism is on point and your muscle building genetics aren't dogshit. You shouldn't bulk longer for 12-16 weeks a time though. I'm gonna try bulking for like 12-16 weeks with a 200-300 surplus and then minicut for a few weeks if I feel like I've got some unwanted fat and basically rinse and repeat this. Most gymcels bulk for like 2+ years straight and then get to like 20%+ bodyfat and look bloated and ugly

Yeah I mean I gained mostly fat bulking my first time. That's why I'm afraid of bulking again. I think my training is better now tho, but still it's kinda scary. I think what imma do is get to like 10% bodyfat. Enjoy that for a while and then actually bulk slowly like you're saying for only a few months. Going from 10-15% is probably fine. The issue is going above 15%

 

[Deleted member 32616]

lifting is cope anyways

idk why would a tall man even bother with this shit

 

[Saint Casanova]

Genetics is a main factor here, but isolations/ machines is 100% completely useless as a natural, sure you can add them at the end of your workouts as a fluff/ pump, but the minute, hour, or day you stopped lifting you will deflate like a balloon because they do not add any real lean muscle tissue like compounds do because compounds force your body by triggering a response to grow in order to bench heavy.

As a natural, unless you’re some top one percentile hyper responder, you need to bust your ass off training hard and eating perfectly if you want a decent physique. No coping with machines.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

As a natural, unless you’re some top one percentile hyper responder, you need to bust your ass off training hard and eating perfectly if you want a decent physique. No coping with machines.

Yes and also stress is a big role, if you got a job, working 9-5, have a family, your diets off, your not constantly ttacking your logbook, you instantly cap out at 21 FFMI.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Yes and also stress is a big role, if you got a job, working 9-5, have a family, your diets off, your not constantly ttacking your logbook, you instantly cap out at 21 FFMI.

Too much work. Better to cruise a lowish dose test and throw in a few orals for events and live your life.

 

[Gerardwayfan]

Too much work. Better to cruise a lowish dose test and throw in a few orals for events and live your life.

Taking roids if you dont wanna compete in bodybuilding is so dumb imo, especially with this casual approach. I have been natty gymcelling for almost three years and my physique is looking solid without fucking my hormone profile up, and I know a bunch of guys in my gym who do roids and look smaller than me, they are miserable too

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Too much work. Better to cruise a lowish dose test and throw in a few orals for events and live your life.

lowish dose test wont do much, i recommend 400-500mg minimum.

 

[MA_ascender]

or 2 Ostarine cycles

does ostarine actually do something? it seems like its not very suppressive

 

[sub5pslathlete]

I starvemaxxed myself from 90kg to 70kg (6'3) and I feel fucking digusting above 74/75kg. I'm so bloated I look like a god damn water buffalo, and for what? A bit of muscles that arent arent even promised? I love seeing a lean face with hollow cheeks so why tf should I ruin my face for half the year?
Props to any of you who manage to stick through a bulk cus this shit is torture. Imma just leanmaxx myself down to 65-70kg instead cus starting a bulk if you're above like 8% bodyfat is gonna fuck my mental health up

but at 70kg at 6'3 ur gonna look so malnourished

 

[sirmimbing]

but at 70kg at 6'3 ur gonna look so malnourished

I really don't tho that's the thing. I just look relatively skinny with a flat stomach. Not even abs

 

[n9wiff]

does ostarine actually do something? it seems like its not very suppressive

Ostarine builds muscle and promotes healing but is weak compared to other compounds.

 

[MA_ascender]

Ostarine builds muscle and promotes healing but is weak compared to other compounds.

should i risk a 8 week cycle with no pct? pct closes growth plates. or should i just wait till over 18

 

[sub5pslathlete]

I really don't tho that's the thing. I just look relatively skinny with a flat stomach. Not even abs

Do u not have like desire to look aesthetic tho

 

[noodlelover]

Lean Bulk. Don't get fat.

Slight calorie surplus.

 

[sirmimbing]

Do u not have like desire to look aesthetic tho

i mean yeah i'd prefer having some more muscles but because i have good facial bones and i'm tall i know i look good just being lean so i feel like it'd suck to sacrifice that and be like 20% bodyfat on a bulk just to potentially add a few pounds of muscle. i'd rather just be lean and maybe bulk from 10-14% in the future or something/maingain and only gain a bit of muscle

 

[sirmimbing]

Lean Bulk. Don't get fat.

Slight calorie surplus.

yeah this is probably what imma do once i'm in the 8-12% range. but i wont go above 15% cus i think facial aesthetics is so much more important at least for me with the tall prettyboy type of look. i dont need to be huge

 

[Gerardwayfan]

the bulk is hard at the start but after a while you get used to eating a lot. I hate it though, i always gotta take shits

 

[sirmimbing]

the bulk is hard at the start but after a while you get used to eating a lot. I hate it though, i always gotta take shits

no dont get me wrong i love eating food. i just hate being a bloated mess. every time i'm on a bulk i cant help but to feel like i'm making myself uglier for no good reason when i could be 10% bodyfat lean and goodlooking with a sharp face instead

 

[noodlelover]

yeah this is probably what imma do once i'm in the 8-12% range. but i wont go above 15% cus i think facial aesthetics is so much more important at least for me with the tall prettyboy type of look. i dont need to be huge

If you really care about leanface more than anything, you can incorporate fasting days. You can do this even on a bulk.

Fasting tells your body, hey sometimes we won't have food so keep more fat ready to be processed into energy. So your body will move fat out of your face and limbs, and put that same fat around your belly. The fat cells get transported through your blood stream.

You won't look as good shitless. It's all about what you want.

Smaller bulk cycles, like never ever going up 15% can help as well.

 

[sirmimbing]

If you really care about leanface more than anything, you can incorporate fasting days. You can do this even on a bulk.

Fasting tells your body, hey sometimes we won't have food so keep more fat ready to be processed into energy. So your body will move fat out of your face and limbs, and put that same fat around your belly. The fat cells get transported through your blood stream.

You won't look as good shitless. It's all about what you want.

Smaller bulk cycles, like never ever going up 15% can help as well.

Yeah I probably wont go above 15% if I do bulk in the future. But right now I just wanna get as lean as I can cus im tired of being bloated

 

[xuzky]

drink protein shake and do cardio twice a week while bulking

 

[Deleted member 45780]

Sure… but anyone can get a girlfriend, its just you won’t secure her because your not chad, so why waste trying to be more attractive/a chad when normies are able to get sex ?

Good set of compounds if i dont care about baxk thickenes nor chest

 

[Bolo]

I starvemaxxed myself from 90kg to 70kg (6'3) and I feel fucking digusting above 74/75kg. I'm so bloated I look like a god damn water buffalo, and for what? A bit of muscles that arent arent even promised? I love seeing a lean face with hollow cheeks so why tf should I ruin my face for half the year?
Props to any of you who manage to stick through a bulk cus this shit is torture. Imma just leanmaxx myself down to 65-70kg instead cus starting a bulk if you're above like 8% bodyfat is gonna fuck my mental health up

Bloat will be worth it. It's not like you get any girls while being lean anyway. Or do you? Also the only way to build muscle is being in a calorie surplus. That includes your massater muscles. Just bulk bro it will be worth it.

 

[sirmimbing]

Bloat will be worth it. It's not like you get any girls while being lean anyway. Or do you? Also the only way to build muscle is being in a calorie surplus. That includes your massater muscles. Just bulk bro it will be worth it.

I do get girls lean thats the thing. Hella girls compared to what I got when I was fat

 

[its_over]

I do get girls lean thats the thing. Hella girls compared to what I got when I was fat

Don’t bulk and stay like that
Why would you want to waste your youth like that
You can always hop on at 28/30 or some shit to become huge if u want but bulking and looking like a fucking baloon is completely pointless

 

[sirmimbing]

Don’t bulk and stay like that
Why would you want to waste your youth like that
You can always hop on at 28/30 or some shit to become huge if u want but bulking and looking like a fucking baloon is completely pointless

yeah that's honestly what i'm thinking. if i bulk i wouldn't go near 20% fat again. maybe like just above 15% then cut back down but we'll see. i genetically still have a good jawline at higher bodyfats tho so thats good

 

[Deprived]

100 cal surplus over 2-3 years. Natty issues sadly but face > physique

100 cal surplus is impossible to measure you'll basically be in a recomp. maybe 300 is ideal for a lean bulk