how genioplasty and jaw surgery affect the lips

[homo_faber]

genioplasty

Why does the lower lip become smaller after genioplasty/chin wing and how much?

It does have to do with the mentalis muscle, yes. This rotates the lower lip inwards which makes it smaller. I read that some surgeons now use the V-Y suturing technique when doing a genio to avoid this.

jaw surgery

 

[homo_faber]

 

[Jason Voorhees]

the guy got lefort 1 with downward graft with a bsso btw

 

[homo_faber]

the guy got lefort 1 with downward graft with a bsso btw

no additional genioplasty?

 

[randomvanish]

lip length reduced ? why ?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

no additional genioplasty?

Ascended by making his normal mid-face LONGER

Maxilla: 8mm downgraft and 10mm advancement measured at upper incisor. Mandible: 8.7mm advancement at pogonion. (There seems to be CW rotation) Many ill-informed delusional members about the need to have a short mid-face to be gl, and long mid-face being a death sentence. People would probably...

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Maxilla: 8mm downgraft and 10mm advancement measured at upper incisor. Mandible: 8.7mm advancement at pogonion. (There seems to be CW rotation)

 

[Cigarette]

70% of people who get jaw surgery or implants are blind as fuck. its usually their eye area thats fucked up

 

[Deleted member 9819]

thats def not genio lol

the guy got lefort 1 with downward graft with a bsso btw

this, it was to fix sfs

 

[Deleted member 9819]

70% of people who get jaw surgery or implants are blind as fuck. its usually their eye area thats fucked up

if you're refering to the guy on op he was literally deformed

 

[homo_faber]

thats def not genio lol

this, it was to fix sfs

i said ADDITIONAL

usually people with short face syndrome get DOUBLE JAW SURGERY + GENIOPLASTY AKA TRIMAX

 

[Cigarette]

if you're refering to the guy on op he was literally deformed

nah just in general but if he fixed his eye area he probably couldve had fillers instead

 

[homo_faber]

nah just in general but if he fixed his eye area he probably couldve had fillers instead

giga cope. his lower third was too small and destroyed his harmony. his submental region was shit

 

[randomvanish]

lip length reduced ? why ?

 

[homo_faber]

lip length reduced ? why ?

what

 

[datboijj]

concanve philtrum means you have feminine lips and a defined cupids bow/philtrum

Wow this guy is definitely more feminine now
lmaoo (sarcasm)

 

[MD_Hopeful69]

So ur saying trimax will make my lips look worse?

 

[homo_faber]

So ur saying trimax will make my lips look worse?

depends what movements you are getting. could get worse or improve

 

[CertBroly]

Wait his lips looks a lot fuller?

 

[datboijj]

Wait his lips looks a lot fuller?

yes.. tight lip seal (from forward grown faces) = better plump defined lips

 

[APJ]

Wait his lips looks a lot fuller?

It’s from the downward expansion of the maxilla. If you have SFS, a good way of showing this is by relaxing your jaw, you will find the lips become much more ‘plump’.

Also this is an A&G op, no? Truly life-changing result

 

[CertBroly]

yes.. tight lip seal (from forward grown faces) = better plump defined lips

He went from a low class warrior to the Legendary Super Chad

 

[CertBroly]

It’s from the downward expansion of the maxilla. If you have SFS, a good way of showing this is by relaxing your jaw, you will find the lips become much more ‘plump’.

Also this is an A&G op, no? Truly life-changing result

Could you explain to me what exactly is downward expansion of the maxilla?

 

[APJ]

Could you explain to me what exactly is downward expansion of the maxilla?

Sure - in many cases of Short Face Syndrome, the maxilla hasn’t grown down enough, so you can’t see all of the top teeth and the lower third looks ‘squashed’ when that person has their teeth touching together, or is speaking.

When jaw surgeons try to fix this they will cut the maxilla horizontally and put a substance (whether real bone or hydroxyapatite) in the gap between the two (now cut) parts of the maxilla. This will bring the top teeth downwards, improving tooth show and making the lower third appear less ‘squashed’.

 

[homo_faber]

It’s from the downward expansion of the maxilla. If you have SFS, a good way of showing this is by relaxing your jaw, you will find the lips become much more ‘plump’.

Also this is an A&G op, no? Truly life-changing result

yes arnett and gunson. i wonder why these retards post examples on their website but dont say what exact procedure these people got. i still wonder if he got additional genioplasty to double jaw surgery

 

[homo_faber]

very interesting to see how jaw surgery affects the soft tissue

 

[APJ]

very interesting to see how jaw surgery affects the soft tissue

Damn! What a result. Which surgeon did this?

 

[homo_faber]

Damn! What a result. Which surgeon did this?

LOL - My orthodontist: “do you want to become a model?”

Me: “Maybe.” Him (pointing at the MM photos I showed him): “But you also have to lose more weight. These guys are paid to do strict diets and get such a look.” Me: “Yeah I used to be extra skinny and my face did look more defined. But without enough bone support it can’t look the way I want...

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[MD_Hopeful69]

LOL - My orthodontist: “do you want to become a model?”

Me: “Maybe.” Him (pointing at the MM photos I showed him): “But you also have to lose more weight. These guys are paid to do strict diets and get such a look.” Me: “Yeah I used to be extra skinny and my face did look more defined. But without enough bone support it can’t look the way I want...

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[homo_faber]

very interesting. some say genioplasty doesnt alter the lower lip while others suggest otherwise




Any chin alteration will not move the lip forward and could actually make the lip more upright. The lip gets support from the teeth so your best option to balance the upper and lower lips is a lower jaw advancement. So correcting the bite and the profile at the same time

Could a genioplasty advance my lower lip? (Photo)

Use braces that left me 5 mm overjet and normal overbite without extractions. I have a short lower face so the genioplasty would be horizontal and vertical...

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A siding genioplasty will not generally change the lower lip position, favorably or unfavorably, which is primarily influence by the lower teeth and not the chin bone. The labiomental fold you have marked does not change actual position, although when the chin bone below it moves forward, can make it look deeper. The distinction betwewn what you mean by a 'soft placing S profile' or 'just making the curve more distinct' is not clear. Computer imaging would provide more insight into that question.

Does sliding genioplasty influence lower lip position and shape? Could it be a successful procedure in my case? (Photo)

Hello, I am considering a sliding genioplasty. I have a thin chin pad, and proper occlusion. My face's lower third is of good vertical length in regards to...

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You're right that chin augmentation with a sliding genioplasty or chin implant can help improve the soft tissue support of the lower lip.This type of surgery won't really change the actual size of the lower lip itself. You can read more about chin augmentation surgery at my web reference link below.

Can a chin implant or sliding genioplasty help shape the lower lips? (photo)

I have a receded chin, and I am planning on getting either a chin implant or sliding genioplasty to move it forward. But what bothers me the most is not m...

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he results of a cephalometric study of changes in the soft tissue profiles after horizontal osteotomy for genioplasty were analyzed in 14 subjects. Scatter diagrams relating changes at the soft tissue landmarks of the mandible (point C, LI) to changes at the hard tissue landmark of the pogonion were plotted to illustrate the relationship between the movement of these pairs of landmarks of the lower third of the face. Finally, graphic representation of the regression equations computed from this study gave the clinician a means of predicting skeletal and integumental changes resulting from the surgical procedure under consideration. The following results were obtained. -For all subjects in this study, an anterior change at the hard tissue landmark, Pog, was accompanied by an anterior movement in the soft tissue landmarks of the lower third of the face. The greatest amount of change in the soft tissue occurred at point C, with less anterior change at ILS, and the least at LI. -The response of the soft tissues of the chin had a high correlation with changes at Pog, the corresponding underlying hard tissue landmark. Comparison of changes between them indicated that 1.0-mm change at Pog resulted in approximately 0.8-mm anterior change at point C, the overlying soft tissue landmark. -The response of the soft tissue of the lower lip showed a correlation to changes at Pog. Comparison of changes between them indicated that 1.0 mm-change at Pog resulted in approximately 0.4-mm anterior displacement at LI, the overlying soft tissue landmark. However, the correlation was not sufficiently great to be used in any individual prediction. -The relationship of the response of hard tissues and soft tissues was similar for large and small amounts of surgical movement.

Changes in the integumental profile of the chin and lower lip after genioplasty - PubMed

The results of a cephalometric study of changes in the soft tissue profiles after horizontal osteotomy for genioplasty were analyzed in 14 subjects. Scatter diagrams relating changes at the soft tissue landmarks of the mandible (point C, LI) to changes at the hard tissue landmark of the pogonion...

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[Soalian]

Does Bimax makes lips more narrow? Any experiences?

 

[randomvanish]

what

it says like that in the slide

 

[homo_faber]

it says like that in the slide

which page?

tbh different genioplasty movements can probably cause different kinds of impact on the lips. or not. like i posted above surgeons give different answers to that question.

jaw surgery however definitely impact the lips

 

[homo_faber]

brutal

lips / mouth megathread

the lips and mouth region...compared to eyes, zygos and jawline and often overseen feature which is nontheless as an important as the just mentioned zygos The lips are of great importance for the perception of beauty by humans. The appearance of the lips in part determines the attractiveness of...

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[homo_faber]

@lilhorizontal32

 

[homo_faber]

 

[homo_faber]

his lower lip looks clearly smaller on the right

 

[homo_faber]

reminder that genioplasty / chin wing reduces the height of your lower lip

It does have to do with the mentalis muscle, yes. This rotates the lower lip inwards which makes it smaller. I read that some surgeons now use the V-Y suturing technique when doing a genio to avoid this. is it over

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[homo_faber]

its over

 

[homo_faber]

daily bump

 

[infidel hunter]

genioplasty




jaw surgery

Looks like a fag with dsl, no woman wants that, only fags on incel forums

 

[homo_faber]

Looks like a fag with dsl, no woman wants that, only fags on incel forums

dsl?

 

[infidel hunter]

dsl?

Dick sucking lips, something men definitely should not have

 

[homo_faber]

Dick sucking lips, something men definitely should not have

his lip area definitely improved

this are ideal lips in a caucasian male

 

[infidel hunter]

his lip area definitely improved

this are ideal lips in a caucasian male

Thick lips are feminine

 

[homo_faber]

Thick lips are feminine

so? its well known women prefer a healthy mix of feminine and masculine feature in a mans face, eg a masculine jaw combined with full lips.

nobody wants this

here are there studies which prove my point:

lips / mouth megathread

the lips and mouth region...compared to eyes, zygos and jawline and often overseen feature which is nontheless as an important as the just mentioned zygos The lips are of great importance for the perception of beauty by humans. The appearance of the lips in part determines the attractiveness of...

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and if we go back to the op: maybe his lips arent perfect but if you seriously think his lip and mouth region looked better befire i have bad news for you

 

[infidel hunter]

so? its well known women prefer a healthy mix of feminine and masculine feature in a mans face, eg a masculine jaw combined with full lips.

nobody wants this

here are there studies which prove my point:

lips / mouth megathread

the lips and mouth region...compared to eyes, zygos and jawline and often overseen feature which is nontheless as an important as the just mentioned zygos The lips are of great importance for the perception of beauty by humans. The appearance of the lips in part determines the attractiveness of...

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and if we go back to the op: maybe his lips arent perfect but if you seriously think his lip and mouth region looked better befire i have bad news for you

Thin lipped chad will fuck more women than a fag with thick lips. It’s a sign of high estrogen and improper maxillar growth

 

[homo_faber]

Thin lipped chad will fuck more women than a fag with thick lips. It’s a sign of high estrogen and improper maxillar growth

studies say otherwise. im sorry for your lizard lips. my condolences. dont shot the messenger.

 

[infidel hunter]

studies say otherwise. im sorry for your lizard lips. my condolences. dont shot the messenger.

 

[infidel hunter]

 

[homo_faber]

cope