What supplements are legit to boost test then?
vitamins and minerals,if test is under 900 inject
I thought u could do roids if u use an AI for bone gains at puberty? Is it a larp
I thought 700 and above was good for puberty? Last exam I did I had 800 at 15 is that bad?
pretty good,i have 500 (over) and i even take aromasin
take ai and see what ur test is,if its under 900 then u can roid
Thanks, also I've heard inhibiting too much estrogen is bad at that stage cause of brain development stuff that uses estrogen, is that true or cope?
I was talking about it with using an AI or something along to not blow up your estrogen though (or just have great estrogen genetics)
Yea that's what I was asking, how much would face and bones change with a test boost / how much test would be needed for that to happen?
300 mg injection is base like for bone growth must people do 500 mg but be careful and do research
Does it take too much of a boost in test for your bones and/or face to change?
If test was in some way raised naturally by around that amount (with puberty and supplements etc) would it also have the same effect as injecting?
I would not recommend you do test in puberty. Your natural T is highest right now, no reason too. But if you insist, 150-250 seems to be quite big already. "Intramuscular administration of 200 mg of testosterone cypionate produced a mean supratherapeutic Cmax of 1122 ng/dl". You would have above natural test levels with that already. 500 mg is autism imo, especially as beginner
supplements can help a bit but no way its not even close. You would have to inject.
Thanks, excuse the autism but could high doses of vitamin d (or just heavy sunlight in general) paired with stuff like ashwaganda boost test significantly (at least by 100 ng) ng if I barely saw sunlight outside of my room since I started puberty (pandemic lel)?
Yes, i can give you my current stack.
AI without roid amounts of test will lead to very low estrogen in most cases which will fuck you up
Thanks bra. May I ask if you already got results from those? And are there any side effects to boron or tongkat (or something else)?
Why would low estrogen fuck it up? I thought that was good because it delayed growth plate closure?
Creatine gives fast results because it draws water into your muscle, so you get a bit bigger. Other than that, nothing specific, I would have to get a testosterone test and i can't afford that. Probably minor test increase. Don't forget sleep, working out and diet either. That alone can boost your testosterone significantly
Thanks a lot bra, so would that stack make there be changes in my face/bones (boost test to a point where there are visible changes)? I'm 15 so idk if there's much time left for those changes?
no worries, ill gladly help you to the best of my ability. I don't think that stack does anything noticeable. Its just for general health and good T levels. You are only 15, just focus on working out, eating right and wait it out man. I wouldn't recommend you jump in and do roids at your age, even with AI. I think your best bet would be bodybuilding forums at this point. Look for opinions of experienced roiders that started in their teens
True didn't think of that, thanks for the help bra. I've seen people say lifting weights and working out at this age could stunt some growth but idk how true that is. I guess the stack doesn't improve T levels by a lot itself, do you know of anything else that could be great to add in to that stack though?
If you are worried about growth stunting do NOT inject T. You might risk closing your growth plates early meaning lower height. This is why i said don't do it in puberty. Legit just lift and eat clean for 4 years and start injecting at 19 if you really want to. You will have made great natty gains by then anyway. Royal gel is cope i think. There is not much more
Tbh I wanted to try and improve test naturally cause of side effects, guess it's really not worth it to inject at this age (not that tall rn too). Imma buy the stuff I can from that stack, maybe try to talk with my parents about it, not too sure what the best approach would be jfl. Is it worth it to try mk677 at this age though, or can it be dangerous like roids? Or would hgh be better? Seen a lot of different opinions about those.
hgh is an option but its expensive. Do not talk about roids to your parents jfl, unless you have a very special relationship with them. HGH could be worth a try and it has a plausible explanation (especially if you are short). Mk677 is pretty safe and can increase GH, which is good. Might be worth it
I meant trying to talk about the other stuff too lmao. Can MK677 screw up the pitulary gland (or have other side effects I should know about)? Have seen people say it can fuck up with teens or that it's just a cope and won't boost your height past a few cm and stuff idk if it's just cope jfl. I wanted to try it tho cause I'm scared of hgh messing up my natural gh production in the long-run.
I don't see why it would. Do more research though to be safe. Try it why not. I cant afford it rn, but I will try it in the future. Im 22 right now but still building muscle, so that might help
It uses the gland to boost gh but I guess that would be most likely in higher doses. Might try getting some, gotta store it in a refrigerator though so maybe I'd try talking to my parents about it since it's not as bad as hgh or test jfl. Thanks for all your help bra, sorry for asking so many questions up to here jfl, you really helped me tho. Good luck in the gym and maxxin too, you can do it bra. Thanks a lot again bro, gotta maxx out puberty while it's here.
yep very nice that you found this during puberty minus the toxic shit. Try DHT gel too for dick growth lol. Maybe it works
I've heard of that lmao, kinda tempting to try out scared of the hair loss tho. Still gotta try looking at everything I can do to maxx out puberty jfl
Horrible mental sides and joint pain
what's ur aromasin dosage? i have over 1000 now wtf
Wtf, did you only take aromasin for that or other supplements on the stack too?
Mental sides because it makes you feel shit when you have low estrogen or because it can mess with brain development or other parts?
zinc, d3, coffee
Few stuff and great results mirin, I thought coffee was bad for teens tho. Do you know what were your levels before starting that?
yeah it fucks up my sleep badly because i drink it in evening and morning, also cortizol i believe
Dang wtf, almost 700 ng increase that shouldn't even be possible mirin.
yep i was surprised too
Nice, so I guess it would be okay if not fully crashing e2. Thanks for sharing, can you say what your e2 level was? Wanna have a sense of what's okay, might have to start taking an AI.
~17 pg/ml (you ideally want 10-15 i recon)
