How Social Interaction Actually Works

[RichardSpencel]

It’s such water but it’s literally so true, there is no bad conversation starter if people see you as this:

View attachment 4482163

An autist can either spend thousands of hours dedicated perfecting his act, only to be brushed off the same way, and STILL appear uncanny/weird + eventually burn out from faking his entire concept of self

View attachment 4482164

Or just change your “self” directly, to the point where you don’t need to torture yourself into an endless search for the unattainable perfect combination of words and charisma to be accepted by others

this meme is still undefeated since 2017

 

[Daddy's Home]

After I managed to become more social thanks to group sports activities that forced me to constantly interact with stranger, and spending three years in the office at multinational companies, working with people both my age and older, I can say the following:

- The things Op listed you should have by default

If you don't have them, something is wrong with the way you grew up (retarded and antisocial parents, few friends, you are an only child, your extended family does not live nearby etc.), so you were more isolated/did not find value in social interactions because the feedback from them was always negative (usually because of your retarded parents and the general environment in which you grew up)

- You must be able to offer value in one way or another

You must be something or someone for people to value you/give you credit so that you can move beyond superficial discussions and form a real, long-lasting connection (yeah bro, good luck with that if you start from scratch, and you're not too smart or too rich)

People want to see that you have the authority and power to change things

- You must always know what you want from the person you are interacting with. If no one approaches you or does so rarely, it is probably because they think you are useless (brutal ik)

Op implies that with every person you interact with, you should reach the point where you go out for a drink/form a stronger connection, but this is often either logistically impossible or unnecessary to do.

So normies will always analyze you, and you should do the same with them, and know what limits to set in terms of escalating conversations. One of the biggest problems is when you do too little with people who deserve more, and too much with people who deserve less

- You have to be willing to invest time and energy, and that is often the biggest problem, because we don't know where, when, why, if it's worth it, and often we just give up at first or we are indifferent

You experience these symptoms especially when you don't have things going on in your life, so you don't know your goals and priorities, because then you would know better what you want and with whom.

This is pretty much the main reason why you are not social/don't have friends, because if they knew you better, they would realize what a boring and miserable life you have

And unfortunately in our generation, this thing of not having things going in life for whatever reasons is growing alarmingly..




A very good example of a person for the thread created by Op, who at the age of 22 went from zero to the top of the world just because he learned and knew how to interact socially from an early age, is Adin Ross

I highly recommend watching this video below, to understand how you can build an empire just by knowing what to say to whom and where, and how important the connections you can build in real life are to becoming rich and successful

 

[Glorious King]

@Jattdontcare @Mogs Me

 

[acm]

Way too late for me.

Don't worry gengy, we have each other atleast

 

[extractor]

Do you actually believe in the bp and if so how do you believe in Islam at the same time?

I understand the theology can make the most sense in Islam, but the bp contradicts Islam's teachings in lots of ways

Great thread

 

[LiL 369]

Never kill the loop

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

That spoiler killed me man jfl. Btw you can spot a autist like this in just 10 seconds of conversation or even in their maneirism.

When someone is clearly bad in conversations or just straight up awkward, the first thing that crosses my mind is “this guy is autistic” and that feeling simply doesnt leave, is like talking to a clearly low sentience individual.

 

[Phaethon]

We've come full circle. Personalitymax.

 

[Menas]

Social Interaction 101​

Most of you are socially dead because you refuse to accept one brutal truth:

People mirror what you output. Zero input = zero output.

If you:

• don’t smile
• don’t initiate
• Give stone faced dead energy
• Sit there like a NPC waiting for “signals”

You get nothing.

No one is coming to save you. No friendly person is going to crack your autistic shell. You are 100% responsible for the empty the social reality you experience every day.


Initiation Is Mandatory

There is no perfect moment. You force the moment into existence.

Don’t wait for a signal.
Create one.

Spoiler: Lowest effort open

Start by noticing something in the environment and bringing attention to it. That’s literally it. Anything else is coping.
Don’t overthink
Don’t hesitate

---

​

Conversations Aren’t About interesting Topics​

They’re about momentum.
The topic is literally almost irrelevant.

A boring topic with momentum will flow for hours.
A good topic with zero momentum dies in ten seconds flat.

What keeps a convo alive isn’t the subject, it’s the back and forth energy.

Every good convo goes has three steps:

1. Shown interest
2. Response
3. Expansion

You toss something → they catch it and toss back → you catch and toss again.
That loop is everything and keeps things alive.


Never kill the loop

Never ignore shown interest or give one word responses like a retard.
If you do this it’s over, no matter how interesting the topic was supposed to be.One of the biggest conversation killing mistakes is topic jumping. You think you’re being charismatic and having a smooth conversation, but in reality you just nuked the entire interaction. Never do this shit.You completely skipped Step 3: Expansion.

That’s conversational suicide.

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

Most of you autists obsess over what to say when the real problem is you don’t know how to keep the damn ball in the air.
Momentum > content. Always.

Only switch topics when there’s a natural bridge.

---

Low-Effort, High-Flow Technique: Invite Stories
The easiest way to keep a convo going with less effort is to invite them to talk:

• “How’d that happen?”
• “What was that like?”
• “Why’d you pick that?”

If they answer with more than one sentence, you’re doing it right.
It forces them to talk, keeps momentum alive, and you barely have to say shit.

It’s piss easy. The laziest, most foolproof hack that works even for low verbal autists (yeah, that’s you reading this)

---

Show You’re Listening​

Do this:

1. Repeat a small part of what they said
2. Add a light opinion or question

This signals emotional presence.

Spoiler: Example

Them: "I relocated for work and starting over has been hard bla bla bla"
You: "I get that. I moved cities once and didn’t know a soul, the first month felt unreal.”

Then toss it back:
You: “How long did it take before it felt like home?”

---

Share, But Don’t Overshare
Never dump your life story.
Share just enough:

• a related thought
• a short personal angle
• a light reaction

Then pass the ball back

---

Turning These Strangers Into Acquaintances: Soft Escalation​

The entire point of talking to strangers isn’t the chat itself, it’s turning them into acquaintances, then friends, then whatever the fuck else you want (network, wingmen, girls, whatever).

Use soft escalation, keep energy rising, slowly shift from surface → personal → playful.

Stage 1: Surface topics

• environment
• situation
• shared inconvenience

Stage 2: Personal topics

• preferences
• feelings
• opinions

Stage 3: Playful

• light teasing
• hypotheticals
• “us vs the world” framing

Stage 3 is where actual bonding happens. Stay surface level forever and you’re just another forgettable background character.

---

End on an Up Note

Always leave people slightly better than you found them.

They might not remember you specifically, but if you give them a small hit of positive emotion, they’ll associate you with that good feeling, how you made them feel.

Humans are far more predictable than we like to think. For most people, feelings beat logic every single time. We run on emotion.

Don’t underestimate how much impact something small and simple can have. Even a line like:

Spoiler: Example

You: “Cool talking to you, you actually made this wait less boring.”

can stick more than you’d expect. That’s how impressions last.

Even better is if you end with a low pressure hook:

Spoiler: Examples

“We should grab coffee sometime, you seem chill.”
“You know any good spots around here? We could check one out.”
Or just straight: “Give me your number, let’s keep this going.”

If they hesitate, you read the room and back off. No begging.

Every interaction has one goal: plant a seed for the next one. Small talk is just the entry ticket. If you eject after “nice talking bro” and never follow up, you’ve wasted your time and stayed exactly where you started: alone.

You’re not practicing small talk. You’re building a social circle from scratch, one follow up at a time. Turn one acquaintance into a gateway: meet their friends, go to their events, bring them into your circle.

Ignore this all and keep coping that “personality doesn’t matter” while you rot in silence.

---

@Menas

Mogs bro, Imma read it in a few hours

 

[RemyOg]

Don’t it’s absolute how to win friends and influence people tier

The truth is blackpill always wins
No one wants to talk to a ugly,homeless,low status person regardless of what they say or how they say it

When op writes about “feelings” that is just normie cope for halo effect ,
Have you ever been talking to a girl you found soooooo attractive but she wasn’t a savant conversationalist so you didn’t want to fuck her ??? No ,ye it’s the same thing in reverse ,fix your face and your life will change

Thank you gng istg these org. niggas aren't really Blackpilled

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Social Interaction 101​

Most of you are socially dead because you refuse to accept one brutal truth:

People mirror what you output. Zero input = zero output.

If you:

• don’t smile
• don’t initiate
• Give stone faced dead energy
• Sit there like a NPC waiting for “signals”

You get nothing.

No one is coming to save you. No friendly person is going to crack your autistic shell. You are 100% responsible for the empty the social reality you experience every day.


Initiation Is Mandatory

There is no perfect moment. You force the moment into existence.

Don’t wait for a signal.
Create one.

Spoiler: Lowest effort open

Start by noticing something in the environment and bringing attention to it. That’s literally it. Anything else is coping.
Don’t overthink
Don’t hesitate

---

​

Conversations Aren’t About interesting Topics​

They’re about momentum.
The topic is literally almost irrelevant.

A boring topic with momentum will flow for hours.
A good topic with zero momentum dies in ten seconds flat.

What keeps a convo alive isn’t the subject, it’s the back and forth energy.

Every good convo goes has three steps:

1. Shown interest
2. Response
3. Expansion

You toss something → they catch it and toss back → you catch and toss again.
That loop is everything and keeps things alive.


Never kill the loop

Never ignore shown interest or give one word responses like a retard.
If you do this it’s over, no matter how interesting the topic was supposed to be.One of the biggest conversation killing mistakes is topic jumping. You think you’re being charismatic and having a smooth conversation, but in reality you just nuked the entire interaction. Never do this shit.You completely skipped Step 3: Expansion.

That’s conversational suicide.

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

Most of you autists obsess over what to say when the real problem is you don’t know how to keep the damn ball in the air.
Momentum > content. Always.

Only switch topics when there’s a natural bridge.

---

Low-Effort, High-Flow Technique: Invite Stories
The easiest way to keep a convo going with less effort is to invite them to talk:

• “How’d that happen?”
• “What was that like?”
• “Why’d you pick that?”

If they answer with more than one sentence, you’re doing it right.
It forces them to talk, keeps momentum alive, and you barely have to say shit.

It’s piss easy. The laziest, most foolproof hack that works even for low verbal autists (yeah, that’s you reading this)

---

Show You’re Listening​

Do this:

1. Repeat a small part of what they said
2. Add a light opinion or question

This signals emotional presence.

Spoiler: Example

Them: "I relocated for work and starting over has been hard bla bla bla"
You: "I get that. I moved cities once and didn’t know a soul, the first month felt unreal.”

Then toss it back:
You: “How long did it take before it felt like home?”

---

Share, But Don’t Overshare
Never dump your life story.
Share just enough:

• a related thought
• a short personal angle
• a light reaction

Then pass the ball back

---

Turning These Strangers Into Acquaintances: Soft Escalation​

The entire point of talking to strangers isn’t the chat itself, it’s turning them into acquaintances, then friends, then whatever the fuck else you want (network, wingmen, girls, whatever).

Use soft escalation, keep energy rising, slowly shift from surface → personal → playful.

Stage 1: Surface topics

• environment
• situation
• shared inconvenience

Stage 2: Personal topics

• preferences
• feelings
• opinions

Stage 3: Playful

• light teasing
• hypotheticals
• “us vs the world” framing

Stage 3 is where actual bonding happens. Stay surface level forever and you’re just another forgettable background character.

---

End on an Up Note

Always leave people slightly better than you found them.

They might not remember you specifically, but if you give them a small hit of positive emotion, they’ll associate you with that good feeling, how you made them feel.

Humans are far more predictable than we like to think. For most people, feelings beat logic every single time. We run on emotion.

Don’t underestimate how much impact something small and simple can have. Even a line like:

Spoiler: Example

You: “Cool talking to you, you actually made this wait less boring.”

can stick more than you’d expect. That’s how impressions last.

Even better is if you end with a low pressure hook:

Spoiler: Examples

“We should grab coffee sometime, you seem chill.”
“You know any good spots around here? We could check one out.”
Or just straight: “Give me your number, let’s keep this going.”

If they hesitate, you read the room and back off. No begging.

Every interaction has one goal: plant a seed for the next one. Small talk is just the entry ticket. If you eject after “nice talking bro” and never follow up, you’ve wasted your time and stayed exactly where you started: alone.

You’re not practicing small talk. You’re building a social circle from scratch, one follow up at a time. Turn one acquaintance into a gateway: meet their friends, go to their events, bring them into your circle.

Ignore this all and keep coping that “personality doesn’t matter” while you rot in silence.

---

@Menas

Mane just talk to the nigga like a regular human being

 

[emeraldglass]

Reading the thread was fun + bookmarked


How to know if i'm oversharing this is where i always mess up

You’re oversharing the second the spotlight shifts from them to you for too long.
They talk 60%, you talk 40%. Max. Your job is to pull stories and details out of them, not unload yours.

They say something → you relate with ONE short personal line (1-2 sentences max) → immediately ask them a question to expand.

 

[emeraldglass]

Make sure to tell the uber driver “cool talking to you ,you actually made this drive less boring”

Ranjeet will definitely overlook your NW4 micropenis skinny fat peanut skulled head

A Ranjeet isn’t the kind of person you should be targeting. No need to invest.

 

[emeraldglass]

Don’t it’s absolute how to win friends and influence people tier

The truth is blackpill always wins
No one wants to talk to a ugly,homeless,low status person regardless of what they say or how they say it

When op writes about “feelings” that is just normie cope for halo effect ,
Have you ever been talking to a girl you found soooooo attractive but she wasn’t a savant conversationalist so you didn’t want to fuck her ??? No ,ye it’s the same thing in reverse ,fix your face and your life will change

Lol, there it is, the classic “it’s over” cope.

You read a thread about basic social mechanics and immediately screech muh halo effect, just be Chad bro.

Nobody’s denying looks are king. Halo effect is brutal and real. Sub 5 gets less slack, fewer free approaches, instant harsher judgment. We all know the deal. Looks open the door wider. Skill keeps it open and gets you inside the house.

Biggest blackpill blind spot: assuming women think like men. They don’t.

Guys will smash a hot boring girl on looks alone. For women you need repeat contact, dates, texts, actual investment and these run on vibe and conversation. For a one time fuck, looks carry more weight, but even then you still gotta open your mouth and hold a conversation at some point.

You say females wont fuck someone who is ugly, homeless, low status. But social competence literally fixes two out of those three.

• Low status gets fixed by how you carry and express yourself. Talk sharp, people respect you more, listen harder, open doors. Networking becomes easy. Climbing corporate or social ladders becomes possible.

• Jobless/homeless? Same game. Interviews aren’t about raw ability anymore, they’re about who sells himself best. We’ve all seen average dudes talk their way into high paying gigs while smarter quiet types rot in the reject pile.

Ugly you can’t fully fix without surgery and no disrespect, but you're the perfect example, lurking here since 2018, still rotting in the same spot.

Stack elite social skills on whatever face you've got, and it multiplies your results hard.

You can keep coping that it’s 100% over until ascension day that never comes…

Or you can refuse to leave free points on the table and max out everything in your control. You need to stack every edge and not die on that blackpill hill.

It’s such water but it’s literally so true, there is no bad conversation starter if people see you as this:

View attachment 4482163

An autist can either spend thousands of hours dedicated perfecting his act, only to be brushed off the same way, and STILL appear uncanny/weird + eventually burn out from faking his entire concept of self

View attachment 4482164

Or just change your “self” directly, to the point where you don’t need to torture yourself into an endless search for the unattainable perfect combination of words and charisma to be accepted by others

It’s easy to sit back and say ‘my face, my face’ while knowing you’ll never actually fully fix it.

Instead, go fix something you can change right now,something that will at least benefit you in one way or another.

if you refuse, just know. You’re never going to get surgery, you’re never going to make money, and you’re never going to develop social skills, brother, so just accept that.

 

[KD6Imp33]

You’re oversharing the second the spotlight shifts from them to you for too long.
They talk 60%, you talk 40%. Max. Your job is to pull stories and details out of them, not unload yours.

They say something → you relate with ONE short personal line (1-2 sentences max) → immediately ask them a question to expand.

I do this when talking to my father. But he wants to speak 90% and then waits for my 10% input, so that he can keep talking.

 

[Menas]

Social Interaction 101​

Most of you are socially dead because you refuse to accept one brutal truth:

People mirror what you output. Zero input = zero output.

If you:

• don’t smile
• don’t initiate
• Give stone faced dead energy
• Sit there like a NPC waiting for “signals”

You get nothing.

No one is coming to save you. No friendly person is going to crack your autistic shell. You are 100% responsible for the empty the social reality you experience every day.


Initiation Is Mandatory

There is no perfect moment. You force the moment into existence.

Don’t wait for a signal.
Create one.

Spoiler: Lowest effort open

Start by noticing something in the environment and bringing attention to it. That’s literally it. Anything else is coping.
Don’t overthink
Don’t hesitate

---

​

Conversations Aren’t About interesting Topics​

They’re about momentum.
The topic is literally almost irrelevant.

A boring topic with momentum will flow for hours.
A good topic with zero momentum dies in ten seconds flat.

What keeps a convo alive isn’t the subject, it’s the back and forth energy.

Every good convo goes has three steps:

1. Shown interest
2. Response
3. Expansion

You toss something → they catch it and toss back → you catch and toss again.
That loop is everything and keeps things alive.


Never kill the loop

Never ignore shown interest or give one word responses like a retard.
If you do this it’s over, no matter how interesting the topic was supposed to be.One of the biggest conversation killing mistakes is topic jumping. You think you’re being charismatic and having a smooth conversation, but in reality you just nuked the entire interaction. Never do this shit.You completely skipped Step 3: Expansion.

That’s conversational suicide.

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

Most of you autists obsess over what to say when the real problem is you don’t know how to keep the damn ball in the air.
Momentum > content. Always.

Only switch topics when there’s a natural bridge.

---

Low-Effort, High-Flow Technique: Invite Stories
The easiest way to keep a convo going with less effort is to invite them to talk:

• “How’d that happen?”
• “What was that like?”
• “Why’d you pick that?”

If they answer with more than one sentence, you’re doing it right.
It forces them to talk, keeps momentum alive, and you barely have to say shit.

It’s piss easy. The laziest, most foolproof hack that works even for low verbal autists (yeah, that’s you reading this)

---

Show You’re Listening​

Do this:

1. Repeat a small part of what they said
2. Add a light opinion or question

This signals emotional presence.

Spoiler: Example

Them: "I relocated for work and starting over has been hard bla bla bla"
You: "I get that. I moved cities once and didn’t know a soul, the first month felt unreal.”

Then toss it back:
You: “How long did it take before it felt like home?”

---

Share, But Don’t Overshare
Never dump your life story.
Share just enough:

• a related thought
• a short personal angle
• a light reaction

Then pass the ball back

---

Turning These Strangers Into Acquaintances: Soft Escalation​

The entire point of talking to strangers isn’t the chat itself, it’s turning them into acquaintances, then friends, then whatever the fuck else you want (network, wingmen, girls, whatever).

Use soft escalation, keep energy rising, slowly shift from surface → personal → playful.

Stage 1: Surface topics

• environment
• situation
• shared inconvenience

Stage 2: Personal topics

• preferences
• feelings
• opinions

Stage 3: Playful

• light teasing
• hypotheticals
• “us vs the world” framing

Stage 3 is where actual bonding happens. Stay surface level forever and you’re just another forgettable background character.

---

End on an Up Note

Always leave people slightly better than you found them.

They might not remember you specifically, but if you give them a small hit of positive emotion, they’ll associate you with that good feeling, how you made them feel.

Humans are far more predictable than we like to think. For most people, feelings beat logic every single time. We run on emotion.

Don’t underestimate how much impact something small and simple can have. Even a line like:

Spoiler: Example

You: “Cool talking to you, you actually made this wait less boring.”

can stick more than you’d expect. That’s how impressions last.

Even better is if you end with a low pressure hook:

Spoiler: Examples

“We should grab coffee sometime, you seem chill.”
“You know any good spots around here? We could check one out.”
Or just straight: “Give me your number, let’s keep this going.”

If they hesitate, you read the room and back off. No begging.

Every interaction has one goal: plant a seed for the next one. Small talk is just the entry ticket. If you eject after “nice talking bro” and never follow up, you’ve wasted your time and stayed exactly where you started: alone.

You’re not practicing small talk. You’re building a social circle from scratch, one follow up at a time. Turn one acquaintance into a gateway: meet their friends, go to their events, bring them into your circle.

Ignore this all and keep coping that “personality doesn’t matter” while you rot in silence.

---

@Menas

Read every single word. High iq thread bhai

the thread's formatted very nicely and is easy to read aswell

You should highkey do a part 2 or a new thread with a topic useful like this one

 

[emeraldglass]

Do you actually believe in the bp and if so how do you believe in Islam at the same time?

I understand the theology can make the most sense in Islam, but the bp contradicts Islam's teachings in lots of ways

Great thread

I don’t fully believe in the blackpill. It has some truths, but it’s not the whole truth. Not everything is black and white, and I definitely don’t buy into it completely. I ended up developing my own view instead, the emeraldpill.

And you’re right: if you truly believe in the blackpill wholeheartedly, you’ll eventually clash with Islam. It breeds resentment towards god and society, especially over not being born a Chad and that’s a slippery slope that isn’t worth going down. At its core, the blackpill is based on nothing more than a scapegoat created by incels to deflect responsibility and shift blame.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Social Interaction 101​

Most of you are socially dead because you refuse to accept one brutal truth:

People mirror what you output. Zero input = zero output.

If you:

• don’t smile
• don’t initiate
• Give stone faced dead energy
• Sit there like a NPC waiting for “signals”

You get nothing.

No one is coming to save you. No friendly person is going to crack your autistic shell. You are 100% responsible for the empty the social reality you experience every day.


Initiation Is Mandatory

There is no perfect moment. You force the moment into existence.

Don’t wait for a signal.
Create one.

Spoiler: Lowest effort open

Start by noticing something in the environment and bringing attention to it. That’s literally it. Anything else is coping.
Don’t overthink
Don’t hesitate

---

​

Conversations Aren’t About interesting Topics​

They’re about momentum.
The topic is literally almost irrelevant.

A boring topic with momentum will flow for hours.
A good topic with zero momentum dies in ten seconds flat.

What keeps a convo alive isn’t the subject, it’s the back and forth energy.

Every good convo goes has three steps:

1. Shown interest
2. Response
3. Expansion

You toss something → they catch it and toss back → you catch and toss again.
That loop is everything and keeps things alive.


Never kill the loop

Never ignore shown interest or give one word responses like a retard.
If you do this it’s over, no matter how interesting the topic was supposed to be.One of the biggest conversation killing mistakes is topic jumping. You think you’re being charismatic and having a smooth conversation, but in reality you just nuked the entire interaction. Never do this shit.You completely skipped Step 3: Expansion.

That’s conversational suicide.

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

Most of you autists obsess over what to say when the real problem is you don’t know how to keep the damn ball in the air.
Momentum > content. Always.

Only switch topics when there’s a natural bridge.

---

Low-Effort, High-Flow Technique: Invite Stories
The easiest way to keep a convo going with less effort is to invite them to talk:

• “How’d that happen?”
• “What was that like?”
• “Why’d you pick that?”

If they answer with more than one sentence, you’re doing it right.
It forces them to talk, keeps momentum alive, and you barely have to say shit.

It’s piss easy. The laziest, most foolproof hack that works even for low verbal autists (yeah, that’s you reading this)

---

Show You’re Listening​

Do this:

1. Repeat a small part of what they said
2. Add a light opinion or question

This signals emotional presence.

Spoiler: Example

Them: "I relocated for work and starting over has been hard bla bla bla"
You: "I get that. I moved cities once and didn’t know a soul, the first month felt unreal.”

Then toss it back:
You: “How long did it take before it felt like home?”

---

Share, But Don’t Overshare
Never dump your life story.
Share just enough:

• a related thought
• a short personal angle
• a light reaction

Then pass the ball back

---

Turning These Strangers Into Acquaintances: Soft Escalation​

The entire point of talking to strangers isn’t the chat itself, it’s turning them into acquaintances, then friends, then whatever the fuck else you want (network, wingmen, girls, whatever).

Use soft escalation, keep energy rising, slowly shift from surface → personal → playful.

Stage 1: Surface topics

• environment
• situation
• shared inconvenience

Stage 2: Personal topics

• preferences
• feelings
• opinions

Stage 3: Playful

• light teasing
• hypotheticals
• “us vs the world” framing

Stage 3 is where actual bonding happens. Stay surface level forever and you’re just another forgettable background character.

---

End on an Up Note

Always leave people slightly better than you found them.

They might not remember you specifically, but if you give them a small hit of positive emotion, they’ll associate you with that good feeling, how you made them feel.

Humans are far more predictable than we like to think. For most people, feelings beat logic every single time. We run on emotion.

Don’t underestimate how much impact something small and simple can have. Even a line like:

Spoiler: Example

You: “Cool talking to you, you actually made this wait less boring.”

can stick more than you’d expect. That’s how impressions last.

Even better is if you end with a low pressure hook:

Spoiler: Examples

“We should grab coffee sometime, you seem chill.”
“You know any good spots around here? We could check one out.”
Or just straight: “Give me your number, let’s keep this going.”

If they hesitate, you read the room and back off. No begging.

Every interaction has one goal: plant a seed for the next one. Small talk is just the entry ticket. If you eject after “nice talking bro” and never follow up, you’ve wasted your time and stayed exactly where you started: alone.

You’re not practicing small talk. You’re building a social circle from scratch, one follow up at a time. Turn one acquaintance into a gateway: meet their friends, go to their events, bring them into your circle.

Ignore this all and keep coping that “personality doesn’t matter” while you rot in silence.

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@Menas

This will definitely help me at the homosexual gatherings I enjoy going to.

 

[vishal24.karukkuvel]

Cope alert! You'll naturally flow with certain people and not with others. Trying anything artificial like this is easily noticeable by people in turn not creating an actual connection with the other person

 

[emeraldglass]

I do this when talking to my father. But he wants to speak 90% and then waits for my 10% input, so that he can keep talking.

That’s the boomer dynamic.

He wants a monologue with occasional “mm hmm” validation so he can keep rolling.

You’re not talking to him. You’re being his audience.

My father is the same. I don’t mind it though, when it’s parents, it’s not really a problem. Let them have their fun. But if it happens with other people, who do it to you, that’s different.

In that case flip the script. When they pause for your 10%, don’t give the safe nod. Hit them with an actual question that forces them to think or reveal something new. Don't stay the passive listener forever start training the dynamic in your favor.

 

[vishal24.karukkuvel]

It’s such water but it’s literally so true, there is no bad conversation starter if people see you as this:

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An autist can either spend thousands of hours dedicated perfecting his act, only to be brushed off the same way, and STILL appear uncanny/weird + eventually burn out from faking his entire concept of self

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Or just change your “self” directly, to the point where you don’t need to torture yourself into an endless search for the unattainable perfect combination of words and charisma to be accepted by others

Yes, but it applies to the average guy.

Ofcourse if your chad it don't matter what you say and same if your subhuman nothing can save you. ( Same way for you if you see a 10/10 baddie it don't matter whatever she says )

But most guys are LTN/MTN and bettering up your social game WILL help!

Your looking at two extremes Chad/Subhuman and calling it a fair point when you missed the crucial MAJORITY.

 

[emeraldglass]

Cope alert! You'll naturally flow with certain people and not with others. Trying anything artificial like this is easily noticeable by people in turn not creating an actual connection with the other person

The artificial shit you’re scared of is called effort, reading the room and steering the convo. People feel a connection because you guided it there smoothly. Of course you won’t have chemistry with everyone, but if you don’t try to build it, you’ll never know whether you could.

 

[RichardSpencel]

Lol, there it is, the classic “it’s over” cope.

You read a thread about basic social mechanics and immediately screech muh halo effect, just be Chad bro.

Nobody’s denying looks are king. Halo effect is brutal and real. Sub 5 gets less slack, fewer free approaches, instant harsher judgment. We all know the deal. Looks crack the door wide open. Looks open the door wider. Skill keeps it open and gets you inside the house.

Biggest blackpill blind spot: assuming women think like men. They don’t.

Guys will smash a hot boring girl on looks alone. For women you need repeat contact, dates, texts, actual investment and these run on vibe and conversation. For a one time fuck, looks carry more weight, but even then you still gotta open your mouth and hold a conversation at some point.

You say females wont fuck someone who is ugly, homeless, low status. But social competence literally fixes two out of those three.

• Low status gets fixed by how you carry and express yourself. Talk sharp, people respect you more, listen harder, open doors. Networking becomes easy. Climbing corporate or social ladders becomes possible.

• Jobless/homeless? Same game. Interviews aren’t about raw ability anymore, they’re about who sells himself best. We’ve all seen average dudes talk their way into high paying gigs while smarter quiet types rot in the reject pile.

Ugly you can’t fully fix without surgery and no disrespect, but you're the perfect example, lurking here since 2018, still rotting in the same spot.

Stack elite social skills on whatever face you've got, and it multiplies your results hard.

You can keep coping that it’s 100% over until ascension day that never comes…

Or you can refuse to leave free points on the table and max out everything in your control. You need to stack every edge and not die on that blackpill hill.


It’s easy to sit back and say ‘my face, my face’ while knowing you’ll never actually fully fix it.

Instead, go fix something you can change right now,something that will at least benefit you in one way or another.

if you refuse, just know. You’re never going to get surgery, you’re never going to make money, and you’re never going to develop social skills, brother, so just accept that.

DNR this nigga thinks just be confident is king

 

[vishal24.karukkuvel]

The artificial shit you’re scared of is called effort, reading the room and steering the convo. People feel a connection because you guided it there smoothly. Of course you won’t have chemistry with everyone, but if you don’t try to build it, you’ll never know whether you could.

And that connection they'll feel with you is only temporary. This shit like reading the room and steering the convo would only be useful when your in a corporate setting so you can maybe ever so get a higher pay. Every friend you made wasent artifical you guys JUST get along. No keeping the convo alive or whatever it just flowed.

 

[KD6Imp33]

And that connection they'll feel with you is only temporary.

It's training.

This shit like reading the room and steering the convo would only be useful when your in a corporate setting so you can maybe ever so get a higher pay.

It's not only useful in that environment, which you also need trained to do that.
Especially people with social anxiety need to train this.

 

[vishal24.karukkuvel]

It's training.

It's not only useful in that environment, which you also need trained to do that.
Especially people with social anxiety need to train this.

Sure I agree for people with social anxiety it can

 

[diditeverbegin]

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this is my face when talking to ppl

same, me talking to someone

 

[luuk]

Social Interaction 101​

Most of you are socially dead because you refuse to accept one brutal truth:

People mirror what you output. Zero input = zero output.

If you:

• don’t smile
• don’t initiate
• Give stone faced dead energy
• Sit there like a NPC waiting for “signals”

You get nothing.

No one is coming to save you. No friendly person is going to crack your autistic shell. You are 100% responsible for the empty the social reality you experience every day.


Initiation Is Mandatory

There is no perfect moment. You force the moment into existence.

Don’t wait for a signal.
Create one.

Spoiler: Lowest effort open

Start by noticing something in the environment and bringing attention to it. That’s literally it. Anything else is coping.
Don’t overthink
Don’t hesitate

---

​

Conversations Aren’t About interesting Topics​

They’re about momentum.
The topic is literally almost irrelevant.

A boring topic with momentum will flow for hours.
A good topic with zero momentum dies in ten seconds flat.

What keeps a convo alive isn’t the subject, it’s the back and forth energy.

Every good convo goes has three steps:

1. Shown interest
2. Response
3. Expansion

You toss something → they catch it and toss back → you catch and toss again.
That loop is everything and keeps things alive.


Never kill the loop

Never ignore shown interest or give one word responses like a retard.
If you do this it’s over, no matter how interesting the topic was supposed to be.One of the biggest conversation killing mistakes is topic jumping. You think you’re being charismatic and having a smooth conversation, but in reality you just nuked the entire interaction. Never do this shit.You completely skipped Step 3: Expansion.

That’s conversational suicide.

Spoiler: Example

Them: “It’s warm today.”
Retard: “Yeah. So what do you do for work?”
Normal human: “Yeah, feels like summer never ended.”

Most of you autists obsess over what to say when the real problem is you don’t know how to keep the damn ball in the air.
Momentum > content. Always.

Only switch topics when there’s a natural bridge.

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Low-Effort, High-Flow Technique: Invite Stories
The easiest way to keep a convo going with less effort is to invite them to talk:

• “How’d that happen?”
• “What was that like?”
• “Why’d you pick that?”

If they answer with more than one sentence, you’re doing it right.
It forces them to talk, keeps momentum alive, and you barely have to say shit.

It’s piss easy. The laziest, most foolproof hack that works even for low verbal autists (yeah, that’s you reading this)

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Show You’re Listening​

Do this:

1. Repeat a small part of what they said
2. Add a light opinion or question

This signals emotional presence.

Spoiler: Example

Them: "I relocated for work and starting over has been hard bla bla bla"
You: "I get that. I moved cities once and didn’t know a soul, the first month felt unreal.”

Then toss it back:
You: “How long did it take before it felt like home?”

---

Share, But Don’t Overshare
Never dump your life story.
Share just enough:

• a related thought
• a short personal angle
• a light reaction

Then pass the ball back

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Turning These Strangers Into Acquaintances: Soft Escalation​

The entire point of talking to strangers isn’t the chat itself, it’s turning them into acquaintances, then friends, then whatever the fuck else you want (network, wingmen, girls, whatever).

Use soft escalation, keep energy rising, slowly shift from surface → personal → playful.

Stage 1: Surface topics

• environment
• situation
• shared inconvenience

Stage 2: Personal topics

• preferences
• feelings
• opinions

Stage 3: Playful

• light teasing
• hypotheticals
• “us vs the world” framing

Stage 3 is where actual bonding happens. Stay surface level forever and you’re just another forgettable background character.

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End on an Up Note

Always leave people slightly better than you found them.

They might not remember you specifically, but if you give them a small hit of positive emotion, they’ll associate you with that good feeling, how you made them feel.

Humans are far more predictable than we like to think. For most people, feelings beat logic every single time. We run on emotion.

Don’t underestimate how much impact something small and simple can have. Even a line like:

Spoiler: Example

You: “Cool talking to you, you actually made this wait less boring.”

can stick more than you’d expect. That’s how impressions last.

Even better is if you end with a low pressure hook:

Spoiler: Examples

“We should grab coffee sometime, you seem chill.”
“You know any good spots around here? We could check one out.”
Or just straight: “Give me your number, let’s keep this going.”

If they hesitate, you read the room and back off. No begging.

Every interaction has one goal: plant a seed for the next one. Small talk is just the entry ticket. If you eject after “nice talking bro” and never follow up, you’ve wasted your time and stayed exactly where you started: alone.

You’re not practicing small talk. You’re building a social circle from scratch, one follow up at a time. Turn one acquaintance into a gateway: meet their friends, go to their events, bring them into your circle.

Ignore this all and keep coping that “personality doesn’t matter” while you rot in silence.

---

@Menas

Very good thread
So many "incels" that aren't actually subhuman are that way because they refuse to initiate ever and can't flirt
Jfl at this other thread I just saw where someone claimed that you should never go for a girl if she doesn't initiate, you are a man, 90% of women will never initiate with a man because they want him to, it is literally his social role to do so, chad or not.

 

[emeraldglass]

Very good thread
So many "incels" that aren't actually subhuman are that way because they refuse to initiate ever and can't flirt
Jfl at this other thread I just saw where someone claimed that you should never go for a girl if she doesn't initiate, you are a man, 90% of women will never initiate with a man because they want him to, it is literally his social role to do so, chad or not.

Half the users here aren’t screwed by looks, they’re screwed by doing nothing. They cook up the dumbest excuses. I just can’t with these people, bro, seriously can’t.

 

[Asoka]

Good thread bro, but can you check your DMs please brody king

 

[karmacita901]

botb quality water

i already knew all this but i'll probably have to learn my lesson at least 100 more times

everytime i eat a fat L im coming back and reading ts again

 

[emeraldglass]

Good thread bro, but can you check your DMs please brody king

I will tomorrow

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Don't worry gengy, we have each other atleast

Then why are you banned?

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Do you actually believe in the bp and if so how do you believe in Islam at the same time?

I understand the theology can make the most sense in Islam, but the bp contradicts Islam's teachings in lots of ways

Great thread

Maybe I can answer as I am Islamic, the blackpill is simply this: Your looks determine your success in life. Nothing more, nothing less. Acknowledging this doesn’t contradict one’s belief in Islam.

 

[RichardSpencel]

A Ranjeet isn’t the kind of person you should be targeting. No need to invest.

Jfl yeah I agree and that’s exactly my point,no one gives a fuck how the uber driver behaves or what he says ,or how much he fuckin plays “social tag” with you

Blackpill dictates he was never worth your time the millisecond you scan his face through peripherals

This is how it is for you ,me ,the uber driver and anyone in social situations

 

[emeraldglass]

Jfl yeah I agree and that’s exactly my point,no one gives a fuck how the uber driver behaves or what he says ,or how much he fuckin plays “social tag” with you

Blackpill dictates he was never worth your time the millisecond you scan his face through peripherals

This is how it is for you ,me ,the uber driver and anyone in social situations

That’s not exactly what I meant. I’m talking about people outside your immediate circle, randoms you run into, like someone you don’t share school, work, or any meaningful overlap with, and where there’s nothing to gain or build. In those cases, investing time or energy usually isn’t worth it.


But if there’s a concrete reason, say someone wants to recruit an Uber driver for a taxi company, then the interaction suddenly has value, and the investment makes sense.

 

[Mess]

Another good way is to get out there, and listen in on people's conversations.
It sounds intrusive (which it is), but your incel brain doesn't and shouldn't care.

Humans are naturally good at miroring eachother, thus why conversations flow.
So, if you listen in to some random conversation, you'll pick up on subtle cues/topics/mannerisms that you may overlook.

 

[extractor]

Maybe I can answer as I am Islamic, the blackpill is simply this: Your looks determine your success in life. Nothing more, nothing less. Acknowledging this doesn’t contradict one’s belief in Islam.

Yes but the ideas and beliefs that stem from the blackpill being "Your looks determine your success in life" contradict Islam.

Example: studies show that usually better looking people have better IQ (although I understand it's not a strong coloration). IQ its self has a strong correlation with how successful someone is in their life.

The example above stems from the idea of "Your looks determine your success in life". The blackpill at the end of the day is just genetic determinism while Muslims have to believe in Qadr not Jabr

just to keep it simple the fact that some people are born less attractive than others means they will generally have a harder life/worse life. Since looks are basically predetermined and beyond control, this inequality is at the end of the day god's choice. So basically god has chosen to give some people a worse life than others, which makes God unfair and that conclusion just contradicts Islam in that god is the most fair, Just, and perfect.

I think what @emeraldglass said is the only way a muslim can be blackpilled at least somewhat

Also are you actually Muslim because non-muslims tend to say "Islamic"?

Examples of what I mean:
"Are you Islamic?"
"I am Islamic"

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Yes but the ideas and beliefs that stem from the blackpill being "Your looks determine your success in life" contradict Islam.

Example: studies show that usually better looking people have better IQ (although I understand it's not a strong coloration). IQ its self has a strong correlation with how successful someone is in their life.

The example above stems from the idea of "Your looks determine your success in life". The blackpill at the end of the day is just genetic determinism while Muslims have to believe in Qadr not Jabr

just to keep it simple the fact that some people are born less attractive than others means they will generally have a harder life/worse life. Since looks are basically predetermined and beyond control, this inequality is at the end of the day god's choice. So basically god has chosen to give some people a worse life than others, which makes God unfair and that conclusion just contradicts Islam in that god is the most fair, Just, and perfect.

I think what @emeraldglass said is the only way a muslim can be blackpilled at least somewhat

Also are you actually Muslim because non-muslims tend to say "Islamic"?

Examples of what I mean:
"Are you Islamic?"
"I am Islamic"

I can see that you’re jumping to the wrong conclusions here. If you’re ugly like I am, it doesn’t mean God is “unfair” simply because of this. All good things come from God. Therefore, bad things do not come from God. Instead, you can say the consequences of being ugly comes directly from a judgmental and superficial society we live in and thus this mentality comes from the devil.

In Islam, your looks are absolutely irrelevant. What matters is your piety. That’s why it’s fair, because you can be ugly and pious or handsome and pious, similarly you can be ugly and defiant or handsome and defiant.

What do you think of my arguments? @emeraldglass. You can skip the paragraph below, I know people don’t agree with me on that matter.

Yes, I am Islamic. I use the term “Islamic” because it implies believers are trying to live their lives according to Islam, even with all their flaws. The English term “Muslim” is a translation of the Arabic title “Mo’min” which means “those who have submitted to God.” Submission to God is only possible when no sins are being committed; however, not a single person alive is worthy of this title.

Therefore, I use “Islamic.”

 

[emeraldglass]

I can see that you’re jumping to the wrong conclusions here. If you’re ugly like I am, it doesn’t mean God is “unfair” simply because of this. All good things come from God. Therefore, bad things do not come from God. Instead, you can say the consequences of being ugly comes directly from a judgmental and superficial society we live in and thus this mentality comes from the devil.

In Islam, your looks are absolutely irrelevant. What matters is your piety. That’s why it’s fair, because you can be ugly and pious or handsome and pious, similarly you can be ugly and defiant or handsome and defiant.

What do you think of my arguments? @emeraldglass. You can skip the paragraph below, I know people don’t agree with me on that matter.

Yes, I am Islamic. I use the term “Islamic” because it implies believers are trying to live their lives according to Islam, even with all their flaws. The English term “Muslim” is a translation of the Arabic title “Mo’min” which means “those who have submitted to God.” Submission to God is only possible when no sins are being committed; however, not a single person alive is worthy of this title.

Therefore, I use “Islamic.”

You’re both right. The miscommunication comes from talking about two different perspectives. He’s criticizing hardcore blackpillers who make looks everything and even reject Islam because of it. You’re talking about someone who simply accepts that society judges people on looks, without letting that invalidate Islam. Both views can be true, depending on how you define the blackpill.

 

[extractor]

You’re both right. The miscommunication comes from talking about two different perspectives. He’s criticizing hardcore blackpillers who make looks everything and even reject Islam because of it. You’re talking about someone who simply accepts that society judges people on looks, without letting that invalidate Islam. Both views can be true, depending on how you define the blackpill.

@Gengar exactly what he said

 

[extractor]

Yes, I am Islamic. I use the term “Islamic” because it implies believers are trying to live their lives according to Islam, even with all their flaws. The English term “Muslim” is a translation of the Arabic title “Mo’min” which means “those who have submitted to God.” Submission to God is only possible when no sins are being committed; however, not a single person alive is worthy of this title.

Therefore, I use “Islamic.”

1: Muslim means ones who submits to Allah and and in arabic it is مسلم
2: Mo’min means one who has iman (belief/faith)/ and in arabic it is مُؤْمِن

They are not the same word and are not translations of each other. Surah al-Hujurat 49:14 here you can see the distinction done in the quran and you can see that one can be Muslim without being a true Mo’min.

3: "Submission to God is only possible when no sins are being committed" this is very incorrect. Even the prophet said "All children of Adam sin, and the best of sinners are those who repent". If you are wondering who are those who repent to Allah, it is Muslims who have sinned or former non-muslims converting to become Muslims. God does not expect us to be perfect at all and thinking that you are not worthy of being a Muslim because you sinned is from the devil only.

In the quran 22:78 god tells us that it was Abraham AS who named us Muslims(English translation of الْمُسْلِمِينَ) not "Islamics".

This feels like somebody saying they are not a scientist but rather scientific because they made mistakes

@emeraldglass thoughts?

 

[emeraldglass]

1: Muslim means ones who submits to Allah and and in arabic it is مسلم
2: Mo’min means one who has iman (belief/faith)/ and in arabic it is مُؤْمِن

They are not the same word and are not translations of each other. Surah al-Hujurat 49:14 here you can see the distinction done in the quran and you can see that one can be Muslim without being a true Mo’min.

3: "Submission to God is only possible when no sins are being committed" this is very incorrect. Even the prophet said "All children of Adam sin, and the best of sinners are those who repent". If you are wondering who are those who repent to Allah, it is Muslims who have sinned or former non-muslims converting to become Muslims. God does not expect us to be perfect at all and thinking that you are not worthy of being a Muslim because you sinned is from the devil only.

In the quran 22:78 god tells us that it was Abraham AS who named us Muslims(English translation of الْمُسْلِمِينَ) not "Islamics".

This feels like somebody saying they are not a scientist but rather scientific because they made mistakes

@emeraldglass thoughts?

This is true, yes.

 

[avenox]

Gonna read this today to nt maxx at school in monday

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

@Rainman988 i mog you