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I get all my carbs from potatoes and other veg I avoid bread, rice and other stuff at all cost.
 
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Hey guys long time no see I finally found all the ways to debloat the face after weeks of searching :) i want to do a big shout out to Hans Amato writer of Men Elite he deserves all the credits.

1. Lose bodyfat (duhh) View attachment 1635896

Some guys are blessed being facially shredded at 15% but for the average guy you need to be around the 10% bodyfat without cucking your other hormones

2. Get your Thyroid Hormones in check View attachment 1635900
My thyroid was my whole life slow, got the genes from my grandma and when i did bloodwork when i first joined this site, the TSH was already above 5 ( thats really bad for a 17 year old guy) 20 rn and fixxed it with 50mcg levothyroxine every morning 1 hour before eating. bloodwork again in june keep you guys updated.

One of the biggest symtomps of having a slow thyroid is Water Retention, ''Water retention (edema) is one of the common complaints found in individuals with hypothyroidism. The water retention causes weight gain of more than 5 pounds and is manifested as puffiness surrounding the eyes, swelling of abdomen, feet and hands.'' ( https://www.thyroidcentral.com/hypothyroidism-water-retention/ )

how do you know if you have a slow working thyroid without bloodwork and how to fix it

3. Lower Prolactin View attachment 1635919
Prolactin is a pretty bad hormone to have elevated at any time. It’s shown to be involved in all kinds of diseases and also (very) negatively affects your body physique wise.

A few hormones responsible for water retention is aldosterone, vasopressin, oxytocin and ACTH.

Prolactin increases all of them and contributes to a bloated, water retention look (R).

Water retention/edema puts the cell in an inappropriate anabolic state, and not the good kind. The kind that increases the synthesis of fat. This process is also involved in prostate cancer, and lowering prolactin is actually been realized as a candidate for treating prostate cancer.


4. Lower carbs starches not all carbs View attachment 1635920
Not all carbs bloat you and let you carry 3 grams of extra water per gram, Starchy carbs does, here is an experiment of Hans Amato:

Benefits I experienced:​

5. Get your Calcium and Phosporus Ratio in check View attachment 1635930
Calcium is really important our bones are almost all calcium but, phosphorus is also really important for the bones, another thing important is that the calcium and phosphorus ratio is atleast in check, 1:1. (calcium can be higher than the phosphorus)

To know if you ratio is in check you need to put your diet in cronometer and find out,
if your phosphorus is higher than calcium you can fix it with calcium supplements or you can grind egg 2 grams of eggshells to the most pure calcium on the world ( Eggs are a superfood, and every part of it can be utilized for your benefit. The shell is an excellent source of calcium, as almost 40% of the eggshell consists of calcium. Eggshell calcium is as bio-available as purified food grade calcium carbonate, just without all the side effects (meaning it’s very bio-available and safe) https://men-elite.com/2017/08/06/diy-calcium-supplement-with-eggshells/

Why does this ratio cuck your face if it is out of wack?

because it lowers thyroid function and higher prolactin

Sodium and Potassium ratio in check:

Sodium and Potassium are important in the diet but it is important you have a higher potassium intake than sodium intake to reduce waterweight,

taurine is also helpfull for those elctrolytes Taurine, a semi-essential sulfur-containing β-amino acid, is an organic osmolyte involved in cell volume regulation (by regulating sodium, potassium and magnesium levels), and provides a substrate for the formation of bile salts.


Fast methods to lose bloating fast:

Diuretics, think about Caffeine , alcohol(not recommended) , dandelion root(tea)

Stimulant that cause dehydration: Ritalin , Amphetamine, Modadinil (also not recommended but it works can tell from experience)

Fasting

sweating

let me know if you guys have more good facial debloat tips
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Is starvemaxxing ideal?
hmm you mean eating really low calories for amount of time? no you cuck your thyroid hard with that, better go steady 500-800max in a deficit preferable when you lose it by moving instead of eating less to get most important nutrition

but for debloating it is the best to remove all the carbs temp from the diet and take some diuretics with a healthy thyroid but it is not sustainble so if you want to look good for few days it is a good solution, long term solution is just lose weight in a healthy way to keep most of the muscles
 
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hmm you mean eating really low calories for amount of time? no you cuck your thyroid hard with that, better go steady 500-800max in a deficit preferable when you lose it by moving instead of eating less to get most important nutrition

but for debloating it is the best to remove all the carbs temp from the diet and take some diuretics with a healthy thyroid but it is not sustainble so if you want to look good for few days it is a good solution, long term solution is just lose weight in a healthy way to keep most of the muscles
I’m so impatient I’ve been debloating and dieting for months but really fat to fat doesn’t make a huge difference facially, Lars when did you notice your face get leaner was it(excluding fixing your thyroid)
 
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I’m so impatient I’ve been debloating and dieting for months but really fat to fat doesn’t make a huge difference facially, Lars when did you notice your face get leaner was it(excluding fixing your thyroid)
when you start to see the last 2 under abs easily but for everyone fat storach is different
 
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Hey guys long time no see I finally found all the ways to debloat the face after weeks of searching :) i want to do a big shout out to Hans Amato writer of Men Elite he deserves all the credits.

1. Lose bodyfat (duhh) View attachment 1635896

Some guys are blessed being facially shredded at 15% but for the average guy you need to be around the 10% bodyfat without cucking your other hormones

2. Get your Thyroid Hormones in check View attachment 1635900
My thyroid was my whole life slow, got the genes from my grandma and when i did bloodwork when i first joined this site, the TSH was already above 5 ( thats really bad for a 17 year old guy) 20 rn and fixxed it with 50mcg levothyroxine every morning 1 hour before eating. bloodwork again in june keep you guys updated.

One of the biggest symtomps of having a slow thyroid is Water Retention, ''Water retention (edema) is one of the common complaints found in individuals with hypothyroidism. The water retention causes weight gain of more than 5 pounds and is manifested as puffiness surrounding the eyes, swelling of abdomen, feet and hands.'' ( https://www.thyroidcentral.com/hypothyroidism-water-retention/ )

how do you know if you have a slow working thyroid without bloodwork and how to fix it

3. Lower Prolactin View attachment 1635919
Prolactin is a pretty bad hormone to have elevated at any time. It’s shown to be involved in all kinds of diseases and also (very) negatively affects your body physique wise.

A few hormones responsible for water retention is aldosterone, vasopressin, oxytocin and ACTH.

Prolactin increases all of them and contributes to a bloated, water retention look (R).

Water retention/edema puts the cell in an inappropriate anabolic state, and not the good kind. The kind that increases the synthesis of fat. This process is also involved in prostate cancer, and lowering prolactin is actually been realized as a candidate for treating prostate cancer.


4. Lower carbs starches not all carbs View attachment 1635920
Not all carbs bloat you and let you carry 3 grams of extra water per gram, Starchy carbs does, here is an experiment of Hans Amato:

Benefits I experienced:​

5. Get your Calcium and Phosporus Ratio in check View attachment 1635930
Calcium is really important our bones are almost all calcium but, phosphorus is also really important for the bones, another thing important is that the calcium and phosphorus ratio is atleast in check, 1:1. (calcium can be higher than the phosphorus)

To know if you ratio is in check you need to put your diet in cronometer and find out,
if your phosphorus is higher than calcium you can fix it with calcium supplements or you can grind egg 2 grams of eggshells to the most pure calcium on the world ( Eggs are a superfood, and every part of it can be utilized for your benefit. The shell is an excellent source of calcium, as almost 40% of the eggshell consists of calcium. Eggshell calcium is as bio-available as purified food grade calcium carbonate, just without all the side effects (meaning it’s very bio-available and safe) https://men-elite.com/2017/08/06/diy-calcium-supplement-with-eggshells/

Why does this ratio cuck your face if it is out of wack?

because it lowers thyroid function and higher prolactin

Sodium and Potassium ratio in check:

Sodium and Potassium are important in the diet but it is important you have a higher potassium intake than sodium intake to reduce waterweight,

taurine is also helpfull for those elctrolytes Taurine, a semi-essential sulfur-containing β-amino acid, is an organic osmolyte involved in cell volume regulation (by regulating sodium, potassium and magnesium levels), and provides a substrate for the formation of bile salts.


Fast methods to lose bloating fast:

Diuretics, think about Caffeine , alcohol(not recommended) , dandelion root(tea)

Stimulant that cause dehydration: Ritalin , Amphetamine, Modadinil (also not recommended but it works can tell from experience)

Fasting

sweating

let me know if you guys have more good facial debloat tips
Bro do i have to wash my eggs before grinding them im scared of Salmonella
 
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Bro do i have to wash my eggs before grinding them im scared of Salmonella
Yes boil them 10 minutes first than 10minutes in the oven
 
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Hey guys long time no see I finally found all the ways to debloat the face after weeks of searching :) i want to do a big shout out to Hans Amato writer of Men Elite he deserves all the credits.

1. Lose bodyfat (duhh) View attachment 1635896

Some guys are blessed being facially shredded at 15% but for the average guy you need to be around the 10% bodyfat without cucking your other hormones

2. Get your Thyroid Hormones in check View attachment 1635900
My thyroid was my whole life slow, got the genes from my grandma and when i did bloodwork when i first joined this site, the TSH was already above 5 ( thats really bad for a 17 year old guy) 20 rn and fixxed it with 50mcg levothyroxine every morning 1 hour before eating. bloodwork again in june keep you guys updated.

One of the biggest symtomps of having a slow thyroid is Water Retention, ''Water retention (edema) is one of the common complaints found in individuals with hypothyroidism. The water retention causes weight gain of more than 5 pounds and is manifested as puffiness surrounding the eyes, swelling of abdomen, feet and hands.'' ( https://www.thyroidcentral.com/hypothyroidism-water-retention/ )

how do you know if you have a slow working thyroid without bloodwork and how to fix it

3. Lower Prolactin View attachment 1635919
Prolactin is a pretty bad hormone to have elevated at any time. It’s shown to be involved in all kinds of diseases and also (very) negatively affects your body physique wise.

A few hormones responsible for water retention is aldosterone, vasopressin, oxytocin and ACTH.

Prolactin increases all of them and contributes to a bloated, water retention look (R).

Water retention/edema puts the cell in an inappropriate anabolic state, and not the good kind. The kind that increases the synthesis of fat. This process is also involved in prostate cancer, and lowering prolactin is actually been realized as a candidate for treating prostate cancer.


4. Lower carbs starches not all carbs View attachment 1635920
Not all carbs bloat you and let you carry 3 grams of extra water per gram, Starchy carbs does, here is an experiment of Hans Amato:

Benefits I experienced:​

5. Get your Calcium and Phosporus Ratio in check View attachment 1635930
Calcium is really important our bones are almost all calcium but, phosphorus is also really important for the bones, another thing important is that the calcium and phosphorus ratio is atleast in check, 1:1. (calcium can be higher than the phosphorus)

To know if you ratio is in check you need to put your diet in cronometer and find out,
if your phosphorus is higher than calcium you can fix it with calcium supplements or you can grind egg 2 grams of eggshells to the most pure calcium on the world ( Eggs are a superfood, and every part of it can be utilized for your benefit. The shell is an excellent source of calcium, as almost 40% of the eggshell consists of calcium. Eggshell calcium is as bio-available as purified food grade calcium carbonate, just without all the side effects (meaning it’s very bio-available and safe) https://men-elite.com/2017/08/06/diy-calcium-supplement-with-eggshells/

Why does this ratio cuck your face if it is out of wack?

because it lowers thyroid function and higher prolactin

Sodium and Potassium ratio in check:

Sodium and Potassium are important in the diet but it is important you have a higher potassium intake than sodium intake to reduce waterweight,

taurine is also helpfull for those elctrolytes Taurine, a semi-essential sulfur-containing β-amino acid, is an organic osmolyte involved in cell volume regulation (by regulating sodium, potassium and magnesium levels), and provides a substrate for the formation of bile salts.


Fast methods to lose bloating fast:

Diuretics, think about Caffeine , alcohol(not recommended) , dandelion root(tea)

Stimulant that cause dehydration: Ritalin , Amphetamine, Modadinil (also not recommended but it works can tell from experience)

Fasting

sweating

let me know if you guys have more good facial debloat tips
Lowering Vasopressin in tandem with Prolactin is key. Great thread!

Bromantane and nofap will unironically keep your prolactin giga-low. Vasopressin is ADH (Anti diuretic hormone); it's purpose is literally to make the body hold onto water. One way to lower ADH is to drink a lot of water, 5L+ per day, and keep peeing using something like Dandelion Root if needed. That will keep your body in flush mode and keep ADH low.

The following will increase Vasopressin:

  • Restricting water
  • Dietary Sodium [19]
  • Standing [20]
  • Exercise [21]
  • Sauna [22]
  • Forskolin/cAMP [23]
  • Glycine [24, 25]
  • Rhodiola – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin. Rhodiola sacra [26] and Rhodiola sachalinensis [27].
  • Ginkgo – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin [28]
  • Baicalein – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [29]
  • Berberine – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [30]
  • Acetylcholine – Increases vasopressin (in rat studies) [31]
  • Increased IL-1beta [32]
  • Increased Interleukin-6 [33]
  • Increased CRH [34]
  • Inhibited IGF-1 [35]
  • Increased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36]
  • Stimulated 5-HT2C receptors, which leads to an increase in vasopressin [37]. Some 5-HT2C activators include Serotonin [37], Ginseng [38], and Bacopa (rats) [39].
  • Nicotine (rabbits, cats, men) [40, 41, 42].
  • Racetams – Raise Acetylcholine, raising vasopressin
  • Pramiracetam – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [43].
  • Desmopressin – Synthetic vasopressin that has 10 times the antidiuretic effects of vasopressin, but 1500 times less of the constricting effect on blood vessels [44].
  • Other Drugs that increase vasopressin: morphine, amitriptyline, barbiturates, desipramine, and carbamazepine (45).
^^ fapping too


GHK-cu will slightly reduce ADH especially when used in tandem with stims or bromantane + increased water intake.


Factors That May Lower Vasopressin (AVP Inhibitors)

Addressing your vasopressin levels won’t necessarily cause improvement in blood and urine flow. The following is a list of factors that impact water balance and that may also reduce high vasopressin. Though studies suggest various dietary and lifestyle factors may increase vasopressin, additional large-scale clinical trials are needed.

  • Cold (humans and rats) [62, 63]
  • Lying down – Inhibits vasopressin [64].
  • California Poppy – Has 2 compounds that inhibit the V1 receptor [65, 66].
  • Lithium – In human studies [67].
  • Decrease Interleukin-6 [33].
  • Decrease IL-1beta [32].
  • Decrease CRH – CRH increases Vasopressin [34].
  • Increase MSH – MSH decreases ADH/Vasopressin in rat studies [68].
  • Increase IGF-1, which inhibits vasopressin [35].
Hormones:

  • Increased Progesterone – Progesterone therapy caused a decrease in blood levels of vasopressin [69].
  • Combined Estrogen with Progesterone – There was no change in blood levels of vasopressin with estrogen treatment alone, but following a combined administration of estrogen and progesterone [70].
  • Increased Testosterone [70].
Other:

  • Danggui-Shaoyao-San (Chinese herb formula) (rat and mouse models) [71].
  • Alisma plantago-aquatica – (cell studies) [72].
  • Alcohol – Inhibits vasopressin [73].
  • Decreased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36].
 
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Lowering Vasopressin in tandem with Prolactin is key. Great thread!

Bromantane and nofap will unironically keep your prolactin giga-low. Vasopressin is ADH (Anti diuretic hormone); it's purpose is literally to make the body hold onto water. One way to lower ADH is to drink a lot of water, 5L+ per day, and keep peeing using something like Dandelion Root if needed. That will keep your body in flush mode and keep ADH low.

The following will increase Vasopressin:

  • Restricting water
  • Dietary Sodium [19]
  • Standing [20]
  • Exercise [21]
  • Sauna [22]
  • Forskolin/cAMP [23]
  • Glycine [24, 25]
  • Rhodiola – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin. Rhodiola sacra [26] and Rhodiola sachalinensis [27].
  • Ginkgo – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin [28]
  • Baicalein – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [29]
  • Berberine – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [30]
  • Acetylcholine – Increases vasopressin (in rat studies) [31]
  • Increased IL-1beta [32]
  • Increased Interleukin-6 [33]
  • Increased CRH [34]
  • Inhibited IGF-1 [35]
  • Increased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36]
  • Stimulated 5-HT2C receptors, which leads to an increase in vasopressin [37]. Some 5-HT2C activators include Serotonin [37], Ginseng [38], and Bacopa (rats) [39].
  • Nicotine (rabbits, cats, men) [40, 41, 42].
  • Racetams – Raise Acetylcholine, raising vasopressin
  • Pramiracetam – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [43].
  • Desmopressin – Synthetic vasopressin that has 10 times the antidiuretic effects of vasopressin, but 1500 times less of the constricting effect on blood vessels [44].
  • Other Drugs that increase vasopressin: morphine, amitriptyline, barbiturates, desipramine, and carbamazepine (45).
^^ fapping too


GHK-cu will slightly reduce ADH especially when used in tandem with stims or bromantane + increased water intake.


Factors That May Lower Vasopressin (AVP Inhibitors)

Addressing your vasopressin levels won’t necessarily cause improvement in blood and urine flow. The following is a list of factors that impact water balance and that may also reduce high vasopressin. Though studies suggest various dietary and lifestyle factors may increase vasopressin, additional large-scale clinical trials are needed.

  • Cold (humans and rats) [62, 63]
  • Lying down – Inhibits vasopressin [64].
  • California Poppy – Has 2 compounds that inhibit the V1 receptor [65, 66].
  • Lithium – In human studies [67].
  • Decrease Interleukin-6 [33].
  • Decrease IL-1beta [32].
  • Decrease CRH – CRH increases Vasopressin [34].
  • Increase MSH – MSH decreases ADH/Vasopressin in rat studies [68].
  • Increase IGF-1, which inhibits vasopressin [35].
Hormones:

  • Increased Progesterone – Progesterone therapy caused a decrease in blood levels of vasopressin [69].
  • Combined Estrogen with Progesterone – There was no change in blood levels of vasopressin with estrogen treatment alone, but following a combined administration of estrogen and progesterone [70].
  • Increased Testosterone [70].
Other:

  • Danggui-Shaoyao-San (Chinese herb formula) (rat and mouse models) [71].
  • Alisma plantago-aquatica – (cell studies) [72].
  • Alcohol – Inhibits vasopressin [73].
  • Decreased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36].
holyshit HIGH IQ, okay i will stop fapping only cooming when i am having sex, wait nicotine makes you bloated for me it does the opposite, but will dose calcium daily more
 
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holyshit HIGH IQ, okay i will stop fapping only cooming when i am having sex, wait nicotine makes you bloated for me it does the opposite, but will dose calcium daily more
Nicotine increases ADH but might have some other properties to help debloating like blunting appetite, keeping you in a sympathetic state etc so I guess they kind of offset eachother.
 
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Nicotine increases ADH but might have some other properties to help debloating like blunting appetite, keeping you in a sympathetic state etc so I guess they kind of offset eachother.
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I also heard red light can reduce facial fat
Will try it! Just ordered some California Poppy tincture too, will let you know how effective it is
 
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im currently on half of 75 thyroxine. I take it in the mornings. (tried nighttime but its just so difficult to get timing right with regards to food and then I go to bed hungry and get bad sleep). thoughts? Originaly i wanted to take thyroxine before bed to maximise GH work. perhaps the thyroxine buildup is good enough that the difference is non existent?
 
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im currently on half of 75 thyroxine. I take it in the mornings. (tried nighttime but its just so difficult to get timing right with regards to food and then I go to bed hungry and get bad sleep). thoughts? Originaly i wanted to take thyroxine before bed to maximise GH work. perhaps the thyroxine buildup is good enough that the difference is non existent?
heard it is not good to take it right before bed becasue effects sleep or something
 
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@Seth Walsh btw i stopped losing weight and already notice my face is less debloated because i eat at maintain now
 
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Hey guys long time no see I finally found all the ways to debloat the face after weeks of searching :) i want to do a big shout out to Hans Amato writer of Men Elite he deserves all the credits.

1. Lose bodyfat (duhh) View attachment 1635896

Some guys are blessed being facially shredded at 15% but for the average guy you need to be around the 10% bodyfat without cucking your other hormones

2. Get your Thyroid Hormones in check View attachment 1635900
My thyroid was my whole life slow, got the genes from my grandma and when i did bloodwork when i first joined this site, the TSH was already above 5 ( thats really bad for a 17 year old guy) 20 rn and fixxed it with 50mcg levothyroxine every morning 1 hour before eating. bloodwork again in june keep you guys updated.

One of the biggest symtomps of having a slow thyroid is Water Retention, ''Water retention (edema) is one of the common complaints found in individuals with hypothyroidism. The water retention causes weight gain of more than 5 pounds and is manifested as puffiness surrounding the eyes, swelling of abdomen, feet and hands.'' ( https://www.thyroidcentral.com/hypothyroidism-water-retention/ )

how do you know if you have a slow working thyroid without bloodwork and how to fix it

3. Lower Prolactin View attachment 1635919
Prolactin is a pretty bad hormone to have elevated at any time. It’s shown to be involved in all kinds of diseases and also (very) negatively affects your body physique wise.

A few hormones responsible for water retention is aldosterone, vasopressin, oxytocin and ACTH.

Prolactin increases all of them and contributes to a bloated, water retention look (R).

Water retention/edema puts the cell in an inappropriate anabolic state, and not the good kind. The kind that increases the synthesis of fat. This process is also involved in prostate cancer, and lowering prolactin is actually been realized as a candidate for treating prostate cancer.


4. Lower carbs starches not all carbs View attachment 1635920
Not all carbs bloat you and let you carry 3 grams of extra water per gram, Starchy carbs does, here is an experiment of Hans Amato:

Benefits I experienced:​

5. Get your Calcium and Phosporus Ratio in check View attachment 1635930
Calcium is really important our bones are almost all calcium but, phosphorus is also really important for the bones, another thing important is that the calcium and phosphorus ratio is atleast in check, 1:1. (calcium can be higher than the phosphorus)

To know if you ratio is in check you need to put your diet in cronometer and find out,
if your phosphorus is higher than calcium you can fix it with calcium supplements or you can grind egg 2 grams of eggshells to the most pure calcium on the world ( Eggs are a superfood, and every part of it can be utilized for your benefit. The shell is an excellent source of calcium, as almost 40% of the eggshell consists of calcium. Eggshell calcium is as bio-available as purified food grade calcium carbonate, just without all the side effects (meaning it’s very bio-available and safe) https://men-elite.com/2017/08/06/diy-calcium-supplement-with-eggshells/

Why does this ratio cuck your face if it is out of wack?

because it lowers thyroid function and higher prolactin

Sodium and Potassium ratio in check:

Sodium and Potassium are important in the diet but it is important you have a higher potassium intake than sodium intake to reduce waterweight,

taurine is also helpfull for those elctrolytes Taurine, a semi-essential sulfur-containing β-amino acid, is an organic osmolyte involved in cell volume regulation (by regulating sodium, potassium and magnesium levels), and provides a substrate for the formation of bile salts.


Fast methods to lose bloating fast:

Diuretics, think about Caffeine , alcohol(not recommended) , dandelion root(tea)

Stimulant that cause dehydration: Ritalin , Amphetamine, Modadinil (also not recommended but it works can tell from experience)

Fasting

sweating

let me know if you guys have more good facial debloat tips
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Lowering Vasopressin in tandem with Prolactin is key. Great thread!

Bromantane and nofap will unironically keep your prolactin giga-low. Vasopressin is ADH (Anti diuretic hormone); it's purpose is literally to make the body hold onto water. One way to lower ADH is to drink a lot of water, 5L+ per day, and keep peeing using something like Dandelion Root if needed. That will keep your body in flush mode and keep ADH low.

The following will increase Vasopressin:

  • Restricting water
  • Dietary Sodium [19]
  • Standing [20]
  • Exercise [21]
  • Sauna [22]
  • Forskolin/cAMP [23]
  • Glycine [24, 25]
  • Rhodiola – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin. Rhodiola sacra [26] and Rhodiola sachalinensis [27].
  • Ginkgo – Lowers endopeptidase activity, leading to higher vasopressin [28]
  • Baicalein – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [29]
  • Berberine – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [30]
  • Acetylcholine – Increases vasopressin (in rat studies) [31]
  • Increased IL-1beta [32]
  • Increased Interleukin-6 [33]
  • Increased CRH [34]
  • Inhibited IGF-1 [35]
  • Increased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36]
  • Stimulated 5-HT2C receptors, which leads to an increase in vasopressin [37]. Some 5-HT2C activators include Serotonin [37], Ginseng [38], and Bacopa (rats) [39].
  • Nicotine (rabbits, cats, men) [40, 41, 42].
  • Racetams – Raise Acetylcholine, raising vasopressin
  • Pramiracetam – Inhibits endopeptidase, raising vasopressin [43].
  • Desmopressin – Synthetic vasopressin that has 10 times the antidiuretic effects of vasopressin, but 1500 times less of the constricting effect on blood vessels [44].
  • Other Drugs that increase vasopressin: morphine, amitriptyline, barbiturates, desipramine, and carbamazepine (45).
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GHK-cu will slightly reduce ADH especially when used in tandem with stims or bromantane + increased water intake.


Factors That May Lower Vasopressin (AVP Inhibitors)

Addressing your vasopressin levels won’t necessarily cause improvement in blood and urine flow. The following is a list of factors that impact water balance and that may also reduce high vasopressin. Though studies suggest various dietary and lifestyle factors may increase vasopressin, additional large-scale clinical trials are needed.

  • Cold (humans and rats) [62, 63]
  • Lying down – Inhibits vasopressin [64].
  • California Poppy – Has 2 compounds that inhibit the V1 receptor [65, 66].
  • Lithium – In human studies [67].
  • Decrease Interleukin-6 [33].
  • Decrease IL-1beta [32].
  • Decrease CRH – CRH increases Vasopressin [34].
  • Increase MSH – MSH decreases ADH/Vasopressin in rat studies [68].
  • Increase IGF-1, which inhibits vasopressin [35].
Hormones:

  • Increased Progesterone – Progesterone therapy caused a decrease in blood levels of vasopressin [69].
  • Combined Estrogen with Progesterone – There was no change in blood levels of vasopressin with estrogen treatment alone, but following a combined administration of estrogen and progesterone [70].
  • Increased Testosterone [70].
Other:

  • Danggui-Shaoyao-San (Chinese herb formula) (rat and mouse models) [71].
  • Alisma plantago-aquatica – (cell studies) [72].
  • Alcohol – Inhibits vasopressin [73].
  • Decreased BMAL1, which is needed for the production of vasopressin [36].
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