How to know if you have the "base" to ascend

[Clavicular]

If you have any of these failos, it will be much more difficult to ascend (not impossible)




-1 Narrow IPD


this surgery requires orbital box osteotomy which few surgeons will consider performing on you, it is extremely dangerous and expensive.

I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box...

looksmax.org

user who got OBO from @RealSurgerymax
-Unfortunately almost no one will get OBO, its basically a pipedream in 2024




-2 Narrow FWHR

You really cant fix a narrow FWHR without some crazy tripod osteotomy, MSE seems like a meme for widening the face/zygos signifigantly
I mark this an "unfixable failo"

-3 Bad frame

Currently there isnt a hip narrowing surgery (I looked everywhere) and clavicle lengthening is extremely expensive for 2-3 inch max






-4 Small skull

enough said.







-5 short face syndrome (SFS)

pretty narrow midface ratio, not the shortest ive seen but first guy I thought of.
Lefort 2 downgrafting can fix this but like I said, highly unlikely you will get lefort.






-6 Short

You will never fix your height, LL is more of a pipedream than OBO at 200k+ and never being able to jump again.

The recover is no joke






-7 Severe Jaw and Chin recession

when you are this recessed it will be quite hard to fix, major ascension from pre-op but still a normie tier jaw.







-8 Maxilla recession

Good results, but unless you are a severe case like above, it will be hard to find a blackpilled surgeon who will perform a lefort for aesthetics







-9 Long philtrum

very unfixable failo, lip lift leaves aspie scars and ruins the midface ratio, and smile.







-10 Phenotype

Pic sums it up well, can cope with some lightening stuff i suppose




-I stated above I said these are UNLIKELY to be fixed, dont come at me for blackpilling. Lets be realistic for a second guys, these are difficult failos to fix.


almost all the ascensions you see dont have these failos, look at salludon, crisick, amnesia. The before pics are examples of the base needed to ascend that hard.

 

[arab_chink]

Water water water, i miss enchanted elixir

 

[imabetanumale]

you just described my whole looks

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Add phenotype and height in there too

 

[smallman]

Add having a dog shit pfl

 

[arab_chink]

Yea its water, but some ppl mald about the forum getting popular, but you cant softmax a 1.6 FWHR so does it matter?

Half of these can be fixed if you went to a decent surgeon

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I forgot pheno somehow LOL

I wouldn't call it unfixable. It can be ameliorated wirh skin lightening, contacts etc but it's a big handicap.

 

[Deleted member 53646]

How to tell if my crush likes me ?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Add having a dog shit pfl

I don't think it's that big of a falio if thr shape is good

 

[Deleted member 64942]

I've seen narrow FWHR fixed quite often with zygo implants

 

[arab_chink]

Not unfixable at all, actually very viable options

yea but you can only lighten so much, it also wont hide your undertones

just get 50k+ surgeries theory

I said they are fixable, but not viable for most of the NEETs on here who LARP that they are getting OBO and flood @RealSurgerymax 's inbox even though they have 300$ to their name

Real surgery max isnt the only surgeon bro….

 

[Jason Voorhees]

thats because the PFH is good yea, also the eye color halo is unreal

Just have coin slots for eyes theory is legit.

 

[Deleted member 53670]

If you have any of these failos, it will be much more difficult to ascend (not impossible)




-1 Narrow IPD
View attachment 2855835

this surgery requires orbital box osteotomy which few surgeons will consider performing on you, it is extremely dangerous and expensive.

I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box...

looksmax.org

user who got OBO from @RealSurgerymax
-Unfortunately almost no one will get OBO, its basically a pipedream in 2024




-2 Narrow FWHR
View attachment 2855838
You really cant fix a narrow FWHR without some crazy tripod osteotomy, MSE seems like a meme for widening the face/zygos signifigantly
I mark this an "unfixable failo"
View attachment 2855841





-3 Bad frame
View attachment 2855864

Currently there isnt a hip narrowing surgery (I looked everywhere) and clavicle lengthening is extremely expensive for 2-3 inch max






-4 Small skull
View attachment 2855842
enough said.







-5 short face syndrome (SFS)
View attachment 2855844
pretty narrow midface ratio, not the shortest ive seen but first guy I thought of.
Lefort 2 downgrafting can fix this but like I said, highly unlikely you will get lefort.






-6 Short
View attachment 2855845
You will never fix your height, LL is more of a pipedream than OBO at 200k+ and never being able to jump again.
View attachment 2855847
The recover is no joke






-7 Severe Jaw and Chin recession
View attachment 2855850
when you are this recessed it will be quite hard to fix, major ascension from pre-op but still a normie tier jaw.







-8 Maxilla recession
View attachment 2855854
Good results, but unless you are a severe case like above, it will be hard to find a blackpilled surgeon who will perform a lefort for aesthetics







-9 Long philtrum
View attachment 2855858
very unfixable failo, lip lift leaves aspie scars and ruins the midface ratio, and smile.







-10 Phenotype
View attachment 2855876

Pic sums it up well, can cope with some lightening stuff i suppose




-I stated above I said these are UNLIKELY to be fixed, dont come at me for blackpilling. Lets be realistic for a second guys, these are difficult failos to fix.


almost all the ascensions you see dont have these failos, look at salludon, crisick, amnesia. The before pics are examples of the base needed to ascend that hard.

how short we talking, water but good thread

 

[tyronechadmax]

Don’t have any but I wonder why having a big skull is such a necessity. I’ve never heard of a girl rejecting a guy cause he has a small skull or anything like that

 

[Deleted member 64942]

you missed the point bro, are you that retarded or trolling. 99% of the ppl here are poorcels and cant even afford genio

then the bigonial will still be narrow

Add jaw angle implants to compensate for the increase in bizygomatic width. I've talked to about a dozen surgerymaxxers who have already done this surgery.

 

[Deleted member 53670]

under 5'10 is a failo, under 6'2 isnt a halo

Its so fucking real, thats why im spamming PDO threads in my eyes daily

Amnesia is below 5’10 btw

 

[arab_chink]

you missed the point bro, are you that retarded or trolling. 99% of the ppl here are poorcels and cant even afford genio

then the bigonial will still be narrow

You can get a DECENT surgeon that knows his stuff, maybe a few trips but in the end will be worth it

 

[0S4MA]

nvm

 

[kt4x_w]

Reply with how many of these 9 failos you have

None

Hopefuel, we will all be chads post hardmaxx

 

[0S4MA]

Amnesia is below 5’10 btw

id say 5'8 is minimum cause you can fraud 5'10 easily with shoes and the fact that foids are retarded, at 5'10 you could claim 6ft on apps and she would have no idea

 

[tyronechadmax]

yea but you can only lighten so much, it also wont hide your undertones

Pheomelanin pill

 

[arab_chink]

and he wears 4 inch lifts so point disproven

Dude WHAT... i said no one here is getting OBO? how many times do i have to reiterate how unviable it is to spend 60k on a surgery

you need to widen all 3 facial thirds and you make it sound so easy, i said these are not viable to fix, not impossible

Do you know where real surgeron max location is?

 

[Deleted member 64942]

you need to widen all 3 facial thirds and you make it sound so easy, i said these are not viable to fix, not impossible

It is actually quite easy with implants, @RealSurgerymax does these cases all the time w/ good results.

 

[Deleted member 53670]

and he wears 4 inch lifts so point disproven

you’re contradicting yourself , he’s 5’9 lol at that point you might as well remove short from being a falio since everyone can wear clown stilts

 

[Deleted member 53670]

id say 5'8 is minimum cause you can fraud 5'10 easily with shoes and the fact that foids are retarded, at 5'10 you could claim 6ft on apps and she would have no idea

In the US I agree with you

 

[Jason Voorhees]

again, its not impossible to fix just expensive... compared to something like rhinoplasty which could ascend someone with a good base

Rhinoplasty isn't ascending anyone. U need to create halos to ascend.

 

[walrusmaxx]

no idea why people keep posting the narrow fwhr meme. great rest of thread though

 

[N1666]

Amnesia is 5'8 not that it matters but frauding 4 inches is insane bro JFL if u cant make that distinction. his limb ratios look super off

Yeah jfl its comical how stupid he looks

If I saw him in real life I'd instantly know he's wearing lifts

 

[Deleted member 64942]

again, its not impossible to fix just expensive... compared to something like rhinoplasty which could ascend someone with a good base

I wouldn't necessary say expensive. zygos and jaw angles I'd consider fairly cheap w/ giant in Turkey, I'm sure adding temple implants to augment bitemporal width wouldn't be much more.

But you make a fair point the majority of people posting frequently on here will never undergo procedures to ascend, all the surgerymaxxers I've talked to have barely posted on here.

 

[Deleted member 64942]

1.6 fwhr is kind of a meme, a narrow FWHR also ruins your looks in selfies

View attachment 2855906

hes like 1.8 also

That's what I look like in selfies lol

 

[Deleted member 33711]

Nah, I’ve seen people recover well after LL. Most patients regain 80-90% of their athleticism including jumping and squatting. The only issue is how expensive it is to get the procedure done and the recovery time

 

[Deleted member 53670]

Yeah jfl its comical how stupid he looks

View attachment 2855904

If I saw him in real life I'd instantly know he's wearing lifts

4 inches is autism jfl

 

[Deleted member 53670]

Nah, I’ve seen people recover well after LL. Most patients regain 80-90% of their athleticism including jumping and squatting. The only issue is how expensive it is to get the procedure done and the recovery time

Injuries post LL are a meme, once I get LL I’ll take roids and hgh

 

[0S4MA]

and he wears 4 inch lifts so point disproven

4 inches is crazy the second one of his potential slays asks him to take off shoes to fuck its over

 

[Maalik]

Injuries post LL are a meme, once I get LL I’ll take roids and hgh

worst case You could end up as an ogre in a wheelchair JFL

 

[Jagger]

you have a long philtrum yourself dude

 

[Deleted member 53670]

LARP, whats ur net worth?

Long term bhai, I’m a poor collegecel. But I’m going to hardmaxx hard once I get money. It’ll be the last surgery I get

 

[Deleted member 41390]

4 inches is autism jfl

He’s nearly 40 and still makes retarded posts in offtopic. Lifts are the least of his problems

 

[Deleted member 33711]

Injuries post LL are a meme, once I get LL I’ll take roids and hgh

yea, if you pick Mahboubian, Paley, or Donghoon, you’ll be fine. Just expensive and takes a long time to recover

 

[its_over]

Let’s be real if u need at least 2 major surgeries to ascend (not necessary the ones listed) it’s already over

If you have any of these failos, it will be much more difficult to ascend (not impossible)




-1 Narrow IPD
View attachment 2855835

this surgery requires orbital box osteotomy which few surgeons will consider performing on you, it is extremely dangerous and expensive.

I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box...

looksmax.org

user who got OBO from @RealSurgerymax
-Unfortunately almost no one will get OBO, its basically a pipedream in 2024




-2 Narrow FWHR
View attachment 2855838
You really cant fix a narrow FWHR without some crazy tripod osteotomy, MSE seems like a meme for widening the face/zygos signifigantly
I mark this an "unfixable failo"
View attachment 2855841





-3 Bad frame
View attachment 2855864

Currently there isnt a hip narrowing surgery (I looked everywhere) and clavicle lengthening is extremely expensive for 2-3 inch max






-4 Small skull
View attachment 2855842
enough said.







-5 short face syndrome (SFS)
View attachment 2855844
pretty narrow midface ratio, not the shortest ive seen but first guy I thought of.
Lefort 2 downgrafting can fix this but like I said, highly unlikely you will get lefort.






-6 Short
View attachment 2855845
You will never fix your height, LL is more of a pipedream than OBO at 200k+ and never being able to jump again.
View attachment 2855847
The recover is no joke






-7 Severe Jaw and Chin recession
View attachment 2855850
when you are this recessed it will be quite hard to fix, major ascension from pre-op but still a normie tier jaw.







-8 Maxilla recession
View attachment 2855854
Good results, but unless you are a severe case like above, it will be hard to find a blackpilled surgeon who will perform a lefort for aesthetics







-9 Long philtrum
View attachment 2855858
very unfixable failo, lip lift leaves aspie scars and ruins the midface ratio, and smile.







-10 Phenotype
View attachment 2855876

Pic sums it up well, can cope with some lightening stuff i suppose




-I stated above I said these are UNLIKELY to be fixed, dont come at me for blackpilling. Lets be realistic for a second guys, these are difficult failos to fix.


almost all the ascensions you see dont have these failos, look at salludon, crisick, amnesia. The before pics are examples of the base needed to ascend that hard.

 

[Deleted member 41390]

worst case You could end up as an ogre in a wheelchair JFL

Then you don’t have to cope with being short

 

[Deleted member 33711]

Let’s be real if u need at least 2 major surgeries to ascend (not necessary the ones listed) it’s already over

What would you consider major surgeries? Rhino?

 

[Deleted member 41390]

obviously

id rather be in a wheelchair and get the foidsfeelbadfor me halo (they wont)

Exactly run sympathy game and get treated better in life.

 

[Deleted member 53670]

Let’s be real if u need at least 2 major surgeries to ascend (not necessary the ones listed) it’s already over

What do you mean by “major”?

 

[ElTruecel]

Nah, I’ve seen people recover well after LL. Most patients regain 80-90% of their athleticism including jumping and squatting. The only issue is how expensive it is to get the procedure done and the recovery time

LL is bullshit and is such a waste of money. If you have the money for LL anyways why waste that amount on a coping surgery.

If you aren’t like giga manlet tier with a long wing span ll is retarded

 

[Jagger]

View attachment 2855921

yea ik, whats ur point? i still have an ideal chin-philtrum ratio

na. Ideal is 2.0-2.4 yours is 1.8 jfl

 

[Softboymaxx]

can phenotype really be changed without looking uncanny?

 

[Deleted member 53646]

Rhino

 

[ElTruecel]

What do you mean by “major”?

What would you consider major surgeries? Rhino?

Anything more serious than implants or fillers

 

[Deleted member 33711]

can phenotype really be changed without looking uncanny?

Its virtually impossible