How to know if you have the "base" to ascend

[blatonslatt]

If you have any of these failos, it will be much more difficult to ascend (not impossible)




-1 Narrow IPD
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this surgery requires orbital box osteotomy which few surgeons will consider performing on you, it is extremely dangerous and expensive.

I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box...

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user who got OBO from @RealSurgerymax
-Unfortunately almost no one will get OBO, its basically a pipedream in 2024




-2 Narrow FWHR
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You really cant fix a narrow FWHR without some crazy tripod osteotomy, MSE seems like a meme for widening the face/zygos signifigantly
I mark this an "unfixable failo"
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-3 Bad frame
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Currently there isnt a hip narrowing surgery (I looked everywhere) and clavicle lengthening is extremely expensive for 2-3 inch max






-4 Small skull
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enough said.







-5 short face syndrome (SFS)
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pretty narrow midface ratio, not the shortest ive seen but first guy I thought of.
Lefort 2 downgrafting can fix this but like I said, highly unlikely you will get lefort.






-6 Short
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You will never fix your height, LL is more of a pipedream than OBO at 200k+ and never being able to jump again.
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The recover is no joke






-7 Severe Jaw and Chin recession
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when you are this recessed it will be quite hard to fix, major ascension from pre-op but still a normie tier jaw.







-8 Maxilla recession
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Good results, but unless you are a severe case like above, it will be hard to find a blackpilled surgeon who will perform a lefort for aesthetics







-9 Long philtrum
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very unfixable failo, lip lift leaves aspie scars and ruins the midface ratio, and smile.







-10 Phenotype
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Pic sums it up well, can cope with some lightening stuff i suppose




-I stated above I said these are UNLIKELY to be fixed, dont come at me for blackpilling. Lets be realistic for a second guys, these are difficult failos to fix.


almost all the ascensions you see dont have these failos, look at salludon, crisick, amnesia. The before pics are examples of the base needed to ascend that hard.

Couldn’t narrow fwhr be fixed with weight gain if u was really skinny?

 

[cannotbeasked]

Couldn’t narrow fwhr be fixed with weight gain if u was really skinny?

Like how you can fix narrow frame with being morbidly obese yeah

 

[blatonslatt]

Like how you can fix narrow frame with being morbidly obese yeah

I’m underweight, ur telling me gaining 40 pounds won’t help my fwhr?

 

[cannotbeasked]

I’m underweight, ur telling me gaining 40 pounds won’t help my fwhr?

It’ll help it just not by much, I don’t think much fat is accumulated on top of your cheek bones nor will it shorten your FH, I think the only time it helps FWHR is when your cheeks become so fucking fat they extend past your cheekbones. It’ll help somewhat if you’re concerned with long face look like Dr. House or asmondgold. Also by what metric are you underweight? How are you not dead.

 

[blatonslatt]

It’ll help it just not by much, I don’t think much fat is accumulated on top of your cheek bones nor will it shorten your FH, I think the only time it helps FWHR is when your cheeks become so fucking fat they extend past your cheekbones. It’ll help somewhat if you’re concerned with long face look like Dr. House or asmondgold. Also by what metric are you underweight? How are you not dead.
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weight gain and bulking leanly helps ur fwhr alot, cheekbone and eye area are mostly due to fat pads and fat pads become fuller is important for them

 

[Entschuldigung]

Wow never seen a thread like this before on this site

 

[cannotbeasked]

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weight gain and bulking leanly helps ur fwhr alot, cheekbone and eye area are mostly due to fat pads and fat pads become fuller is important for them

This is very unsettling.

 

[JohnDoe]

chewing and roids

post chewing routine and what about le bloated chipmunk/inward gonions meme?

 

[JohnDoe]

You forgot one more thing
having a 6 inch wrist = Beyond over

 

[AlbinoMaxxer]

Where’s long midface and nct? Those are my major failos and ginger pheno ig but not the worst

 

[6PSLcel]

If you have any of these failos, it will be much more difficult to ascend (not impossible)




-1 Narrow IPD
View attachment 2855835

this surgery requires orbital box osteotomy which few surgeons will consider performing on you, it is extremely dangerous and expensive.

I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box...

looksmax.org

user who got OBO from @RealSurgerymax
-Unfortunately almost no one will get OBO, its basically a pipedream in 2024




-2 Narrow FWHR
View attachment 2855838
You really cant fix a narrow FWHR without some crazy tripod osteotomy, MSE seems like a meme for widening the face/zygos signifigantly
I mark this an "unfixable failo"
View attachment 2855841





-3 Bad frame
View attachment 2855864

Currently there isnt a hip narrowing surgery (I looked everywhere) and clavicle lengthening is extremely expensive for 2-3 inch max






-4 Small skull
View attachment 2855842
enough said.







-5 short face syndrome (SFS)
View attachment 2855844
pretty narrow midface ratio, not the shortest ive seen but first guy I thought of.
Lefort 2 downgrafting can fix this but like I said, highly unlikely you will get lefort.






-6 Short
View attachment 2855845
You will never fix your height, LL is more of a pipedream than OBO at 200k+ and never being able to jump again.
View attachment 2855847
The recover is no joke






-7 Severe Jaw and Chin recession
View attachment 2855850
when you are this recessed it will be quite hard to fix, major ascension from pre-op but still a normie tier jaw.







-8 Maxilla recession
View attachment 2855854
Good results, but unless you are a severe case like above, it will be hard to find a blackpilled surgeon who will perform a lefort for aesthetics







-9 Long philtrum
View attachment 2855858
very unfixable failo, lip lift leaves aspie scars and ruins the midface ratio, and smile.







-10 Phenotype
View attachment 2855876

Pic sums it up well, can cope with some lightening stuff i suppose




-I stated above I said these are UNLIKELY to be fixed, dont come at me for blackpilling. Lets be realistic for a second guys, these are difficult failos to fix.


almost all the ascensions you see dont have these failos, look at salludon, crisick, amnesia. The before pics are examples of the base needed to ascend that hard.

i have recessed maxilla and sub optimal fwhr

 

[6'1Turbomanlet]

under 5'10 is a failo, under 6'2 isnt a halo

Its so fucking real, thats why im spamming PDO threads in my eyes daily

Jb 5'8 and fraud 5'10/ 6' fraud 6'2

 

[got.daim]

kys faggular

 

[CookieGuy]

I have small skull…… and someone just said it’s over

 

[hekch]

Reply with how many of these 9 failos you have

- im 5'9 so maybe short height? bit even that i can't make excuses

 

[hypernormie]

I have a long philtrum but I have facial hair so its not noticeable

If I shave it’s noticeable but my other features are pretty good so its only a minor flaw

However the facial hair pretty much entirely removes this failo from my face it’s kind of strange. My facial hair is not long either, I keep a short stubble mustache and beard

 

[hekch]

nvm i have long philtrum too but fixable due to bimax protrusion

 

[Deleted member 89153]

I have none of these failos except maybe pheno in west

 

[SubhumanForever]

SFS is fixable with bimax
Honestly if you have SFS it really means you are lucky because people who have it ascend into Heaven after bimax

 

[Deleted member 89153]

Pheno= curry=over

 

[curryascenderr]

If you have Dravidian pheno it’s so over

 

[curryascenderr]

Pheno= curry=over

Salludon is curry≠over, Dravidian pheno=over

 

[Deleted member 89153]

Salludon is curry≠over, Dravidian pheno=over

Just be top 0.1% curry theory

 

[Zenis]

add bimaxillary protrusion

Very easily fixed via extractions

 

[halloweed]

Very easily fixed via extractions

But you look uncanny after and your skin sags

 

[Zenis]

But you look uncanny after and your skin sags

Bimax or implants after

 

[halloweed]

Bimax or implants after

easily fixed

???

 

[Zenis]

???

Yes it’s fixable

 

[Africancel 2.0]

Wide ES is more brutal

Depends on pfl ,most blacks have wide esr and ipd ,but large pfl balances that out .