How to measure forward growth v3

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A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
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Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

Margot Robbie Unexpected Side Part

Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

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Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

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Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

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Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

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Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)
 
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Why 1.25 ideal?
Would have been better if used models as examples and showed their numbers
 
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Notuglyjustpoor said:
Why 1.25 ideal?
Would have been better if used models as examples and showed their numbers
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its the measurement of the pic i used, which seems to be a good example as it is used by researchers. ill add models
 
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Good shit man, keep concocting useful measurements
 
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Doesnt make sense to calculate forward growth with ratios lol
 
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1.33 for me
 
1.295
 
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StolenDays said:
Doesnt make sense to calculate forward growth with ratios lol
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forward growth is the result of maxillary upswing and the lengthening of the midface across the x axis, i dont see why not
 
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pitt would have less if this was perfectly accurate
 
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AutisticBeaner said:
pitt would have less if this was perfectly accurate
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this was the best side profile pic i could find of him, as u can see his head is slightly tilted to the side frauding his depth measurement (as well as his moustache). says nothing about the actual measurement alone
 
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Which is better 1.1 or 1.4?
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
this was the best side profile pic i could find of him, as u can see his head is slightly tilted to the side frauding his depth measurement (as well as his moustache). says nothing about the actual measurement alone
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but you can clearly tell that his face is less forward grown than margot's or barrett's, can't you?
 
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AutisticBeaner said:
but you can clearly tell that his face is less forward grown than margot's or barrett's, can't you?
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ye duh, ill probably remove him as an example because it wasnt an accurate pic in the first place
 
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show pic of at least 4 recessed subhumans with 0.7 ratio or method is shit
 
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I have 1.25
 
1.39 good?
 
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bruh I get 1.36 but robbie mogs me to death. NEXT
 
1.488888 :lul:
 
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So as a 1.48 cell, I have a rotated maxilla but shit under eye support/ infra orbitals. Whats the solution to that?

inb4 R O P E
 
Why are you all so obsessed with ratios?
 
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LowTierNormie said:
Why are you all so obsessed with ratios?
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Imagine being active on a looksmaxxing forum and asking questions like this guy.

Taylor Hill has a nice ratio though (in the below picture its not perfect 90° angle though). Just a comparison below:
 

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hey @TheEndHasNoEnd is it bad to go over 1.25
 
Good post imo because ratios give a good overview. How do I make sure I have my head in frankfurt plane?
 
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Over for 1.35 fDHR me :feelswhy:
 
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GigaHighIQ post OP (pic unrelated)
 
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Either we're all chads and don't realize it or you're wrong OP. Idk anymore lol.​
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)
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never began for maher his face is tall.
 
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connor murphy 1.57 LMAO
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)
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Mine is 1.3 brah? Is goodd? I literalli have flat maxilla like opry tho wtff
 
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Can you have the ideal ratio (mines 1.27) but a recessed maxilla?
 
TheEndHasNoEnd said:
A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)
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Mh I get very different results with slightly different angles. My profile is also super weird. I guess I'm measuring wrong but I go from 1.1 to much above 1.3
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)
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im recessed but mine is still near 1.25 , this chart is cope
 
What a load of bullshit.
Children, women and people with stunted facial development who all have a short midface by default are all gigamoggers by this promise when they lack forward growth most of the time.

Forward growth is measured with the triangle method aKa by analyzing the maxillary slope, and that's it.
 
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Mastermind said:
What a load of bullshit.
Children, women and people with stunted facial development who all have a short midface by default are all gigamoggers by this promise when they lack forward growth most of the time.

Forward growth is measured with the triangle method aKa by analyzing the maxillary slope, and that's it.
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True maxillary triangle is better but wtf is this cope lmao compact midface is always ideal
 
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Mastermind said:
Children who have it by default are forward grown?
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This measurement doesn't take the facial length into account nearly as much as the cranial depth and maxillary forward growth. But actually children are more prone to better forward growth because they're less fucked by the environment
 
Mastermind said:
Children who have it by default are forward grown?
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Also there is a relation between facial length and forward growth in that lack of forward growth can cause downward growth and subsequently a longer face
 
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