How to measure forward growth v3

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):

Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Why 1.25 ideal?
Would have been better if used models as examples and showed their numbers

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Why 1.25 ideal?
Would have been better if used models as examples and showed their numbers

its the measurement of the pic i used, which seems to be a good example as it is used by researchers. ill add models

 

[Deleted member 5701]

Good shit man, keep concocting useful measurements

 

[StolenDays]

Doesnt make sense to calculate forward growth with ratios lol

 

[Deleted member 6475]

1.33 for me

 

[Deleted member 5701]

1.295

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Doesnt make sense to calculate forward growth with ratios lol

forward growth is the result of maxillary upswing and the lengthening of the midface across the x axis, i dont see why not

 

[AutisticBeaner]

pitt would have less if this was perfectly accurate

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

pitt would have less if this was perfectly accurate

this was the best side profile pic i could find of him, as u can see his head is slightly tilted to the side frauding his depth measurement (as well as his moustache). says nothing about the actual measurement alone

 

[garfyld]

Which is better 1.1 or 1.4?

 

[AutisticBeaner]

this was the best side profile pic i could find of him, as u can see his head is slightly tilted to the side frauding his depth measurement (as well as his moustache). says nothing about the actual measurement alone

but you can clearly tell that his face is less forward grown than margot's or barrett's, can't you?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

but you can clearly tell that his face is less forward grown than margot's or barrett's, can't you?

ye duh, ill probably remove him as an example because it wasnt an accurate pic in the first place

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

show pic of at least 4 recessed subhumans with 0.7 ratio or method is shit

 

[Deleted member 5701]

show pic of at least 4 recessed subhumans with 0.7 ratio or method is shit

Mirin your prime jolie sig

 

[Patient A]

Good shit man, keep concocting useful measurements

 

[Deleted member 5701]

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fuck I should have waited at 420 posts to reach 666

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

show pic of at least 4 recessed subhumans with 0.7 ratio or method is shit

(following adjusted to frankfurt plane)

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[Deleted member 1632]

I have 1.25

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

1.39 good?

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

bruh I get 1.36 but robbie mogs me to death. NEXT

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

bruh I get 1.36 but robbie mogs me to death. NEXT

cuz u tiltin ur head like a mfka

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

cuz u tiltin ur head like a mfka

I made sure to rotate the pic I had into perfect frankfurt plane

 

[DrOtaku]

1.488888

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

I made sure to rotate the pic I had into perfect frankfurt plane

what is ur midface ratio, might make sense if its like 1.3+

 

[DrOtaku]

So as a 1.48 cell, I have a rotated maxilla but shit under eye support/ infra orbitals. Whats the solution to that?

inb4 R O P E

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

what is ur midface ratio, might make sense if its like 1.3+

0.92

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

0.92

bruh wtf i have 1.13 midface and 1.18 fdhr

So as a 1.48 cell, I have a rotated maxilla but shit under eye support/ infra orbitals. Whats the solution to that?

inb4 R O P E

infraorbital rim implants

 

[LowTierNormie]

Why are you all so obsessed with ratios?

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Why are you all so obsessed with ratios?

Imagine being active on a looksmaxxing forum and asking questions like this guy.

Taylor Hill has a nice ratio though (in the below picture its not perfect 90° angle though). Just a comparison below:

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

bump

 

[Deleted member 7820]

hey @TheEndHasNoEnd is it bad to go over 1.25

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

hey @TheEndHasNoEnd is it bad to go over 1.25

nope, its good

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Good post imo because ratios give a good overview. How do I make sure I have my head in frankfurt plane?

 

[CopingHard]

Over for 1.35 fDHR me

 

[GigaMogger]

GigaHighIQ post OP (pic unrelated)

 

[Deleted member 13264]

Either we're all chads and don't realize it or you're wrong OP. Idk anymore lol.​

 

[Deleted member 11370]

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)

never began for maher his face is tall.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

connor murphy 1.57 LMAO

 

[Julian]

connor murphy 1.57 LMAO

niggas nose looks like amnesias one, both failed

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)

Mine is 1.3 brah? Is goodd? I literalli have flat maxilla like opry tho wtff

 

[Sanguinius]

Can you have the ideal ratio (mines 1.27) but a recessed maxilla?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Can you have the ideal ratio (mines 1.27) but a recessed maxilla?

Yeah I think if you have a forward/deep cranium and short face

 

[one job away]

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)

Mh I get very different results with slightly different angles. My profile is also super weird. I guess I'm measuring wrong but I go from 1.1 to much above 1.3

 

[faggotchadlite]

A good way to see how forward grown one is is to look at their side profile and see how wide and short the face is. In that case, a ratio of the face depth and height can determine how forward grown one's face is.

Facial depth to height ratio (fDHR method):
View attachment 402981
Height: Nasion to mentolabial fold
Depth: Subnasal to tragus

IDEAL IS 1.25

Measurements of models/celebrities:

View attachment 403022
Margot Robbie: 1.328 fDHR

View attachment 403026
Jordan Barrett: 1.3245 fDHR

View attachment 403036
Sean O'Pry: 1.1846 fDHR

View attachment 403091
Dolph Lundgren: 1.262 fDHR

View attachment 403101
Francisco Lachowski: 1.1413
(This is my last modification on this method, chin shape shouldn't affect the measurement at all)

im recessed but mine is still near 1.25 , this chart is cope

 

[Mastermind]

What a load of bullshit.
Children, women and people with stunted facial development who all have a short midface by default are all gigamoggers by this promise when they lack forward growth most of the time.

Forward growth is measured with the triangle method aKa by analyzing the maxillary slope, and that's it.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

What a load of bullshit.
Children, women and people with stunted facial development who all have a short midface by default are all gigamoggers by this promise when they lack forward growth most of the time.

Forward growth is measured with the triangle method aKa by analyzing the maxillary slope, and that's it.

True maxillary triangle is better but wtf is this cope lmao compact midface is always ideal

 

[Mastermind]

True maxillary triangle is better but wtf is this cope lmao compact midface is always ideal

Children who have it by default are forward grown?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Children who have it by default are forward grown?

This measurement doesn't take the facial length into account nearly as much as the cranial depth and maxillary forward growth. But actually children are more prone to better forward growth because they're less fucked by the environment

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Children who have it by default are forward grown?

Also there is a relation between facial length and forward growth in that lack of forward growth can cause downward growth and subsequently a longer face