how to morph a lefort 1 for long face syndrome?

[bratex2213]

any expert ? so I can see what to expect

 

[Peco]

Surgery ain't the solution

 

[looks_minimizing]

Surgery ain't the solution

bud, surgery is the ONLY option for long face / downward growth

 

[bratex2213]

Surgery ain't the solution

yes it is , rotting and wondering what if aint the solution too.

 

[bratex2213]

can someone morph me in dms I morph many time myself but idk if that is more of a rhino morph or lefort etc please if ur very good at morphing. hit me up

 

[horsefacin]

Surgery ain't the solution

 

[bratex2213]

is ChatGPT good at morphing a lefort 1 from the front, he is ass for the rest I know since I usually morph myself but he gave me a morph that seems legit so idk

 

[horsefacin]

is ChatGPT good at morphing a lefort 1 from the front, he is ass for the rest I know since I usually morph myself but he gave me a morph that seems legit so idk

for long face lf1 morphs you’ll wanna play with the shadows (as with all morphs) and accurate changes in your VME/fwhr in the lf1 region since that’s where impaction makes a difference. don’t touch the nose length at all or anything above the philtrum, and don’t shorten that either unless you wanna simulate a lip lift.

@thecel do i have this correct?

 

[horsefacin]

also don’t expect something so crazy since the most drastic change in midface length would be in true nose shortening which just isn’t possible unless you have a droopy tip

 

[bratex2213]

for long face lf1 morphs you’ll wanna play with the shadows (as with all morphs) and accurate changes in your VME/fwhr in the lf1 region since that’s where impaction makes a difference. don’t touch the nose length at all or anything above the philtrum, and don’t shorten that either unless you wanna simulate a lip lift.

@thecel do i have this correct?

what I understood from my surgeon is he wants to shorten face I guess impaction but also forward the maxilla a bit to allow autorotation of the mandible , since he won't do a bsso , also he told me my nose would get a bit shorter but wider he doesn't want to perform alar clinch idk il try to morph myself

 

[bratex2213]

also don’t expect something so crazy since the most drastic change in midface length would be in true nose shortening which just isn’t possible unless you have a droopy tip

I have a droopy tip with cause the the hook shape of my nose

 

[Peco]

bud, surgery is the ONLY option for long face / downward growth

Mate just because YOU dont know about other options doesn't mean I do too

 

[Peco]

can someone morph me in dms I morph many time myself but idk if that is more of a rhino morph or lefort etc please if ur very good at morphing. hit me up

All a morph is gonna do for you is give you unrealistic expectations. Not even a surgeon with the modest modern tools can give you a reliable prediction and you think a dude on the internet with an editing program can ?

 

[bratex2213]

All a morph is gonna do for you is give you unrealistic expectations. Not even a surgeon with the modest modern tools can give you a reliable prediction and you think a dude on the internet with an editing program can ?

nigga why u hating im just trying to get an idea sure I know soft tissue can settle differently but u know everyone gets curious liken u wouldn't want to know if u were getting the surgery

 

[Peco]

nigga why u hating im just trying to get an idea sure I know soft tissue can settle differently but u know everyone gets curious liken u wouldn't want to know if u were getting the surgery

How is knowing gonna change the end result ? I'm not hating Im trying to make you understand that what you're doing is harming you if anything. All a morph will do is make you cope and waste time thinking you hopefully one day will look like that, just to look completly different after the actual surgery.

 

[bratex2213]

How is knowing gonna change the end result ? I'm not hating Im trying to make you understand that what you're doing is harming you if anything. All a morph will do is make you cope and waste time thinking you hopefully one day will look like that, just to look completly different after the actual surgery.

I mean me and u can agree I might look different but completely is a bit exgarated if well morphed, especially since the movement im doing is simple only forward push and impaction to shorten the face so the change in facial aesthetics should be predictable ofc not 100 % due to differences in how soft tissue settles over time.

 

[Peco]

I mean me and u can agree I might look different but completely is a bit exgarated if well morphed, especially since the movement im doing is simple only forward push and impaction to shorten the face so the change in facial aesthetics should be predictable ofc not 100 % due to differences in how soft tissue settles over time.

There's a reason most surgeons only show you the bones movement and not how they think it would change your face. It can look completly different to what you expect. If I were you I would just forget surgery all together but if you really wanna do it the best thing you can do is go with no expectations.

 

[looks_minimizing]

Mate just because YOU dont know about other options doesn't mean I do too

name some other options then

 

[horsefacin]

There's a reason most surgeons only show you the bones movement and not how they think it would change your face. It can look completly different to what you expect. If I were you I would just forget surgery all together but if you really wanna do it the best thing you can do is go with no expectations.

i was kinda with you til this. yes surgery never goes 100% as expected but it’s not a complete mystery either. there’s lots of great threads on here which dispel a lot of rumors and over-expectations of surgery which can help you get at least a broad idea of what you’ll look like postop. it’s not 2019 where people spoke on bimax like one of Gods divine mysteries bro, plenty of people here have got it and seen great results.

 

[Peco]

name some other options then

Why would I tell you instead of gatekeeping? You should be grateful im giving you hints

 

[bratex2213]

Why would I tell you instead of gatekeeping? You should be grateful im giving you hints

holy ragebait

 

[looks_minimizing]

Why would I tell you instead of gatekeeping? You should be grateful im giving you hints

im laughing my ass off reading this shit, just admit you're bullshitting and move on with your day

 

[Peco]

im laughing my ass off reading this shit, just admit you're bullshitting and move on with your day

I'm 100% serious dawg but you can keep believing whatever you want I ain't stopping you. Gatekeeping is the most logical thing to do not a ragebait tactic. The best way to look better than other people is to improve and not let others do the same.

 

[bratex2213]

I'm 100% serious dawg but you can keep believing whatever you want I ain't stopping you. Gatekeeping is the most logical thing to do not a ragebait tactic. The best way to look better than other people is to improve and not let others do the same.

so basically what this nigger is saying g he wants me to not surgerymax so he has less competition thats the other option

 

[Peco]

i was kinda with you til this. yes surgery never goes 100% as expected but it’s not a complete mystery either. there’s lots of great threads on here which dispel a lot of rumors and over-expectations of surgery which can help you get at least a broad idea of what you’ll look like postop. it’s not 2019 where people spoke on bimax like one of Gods divine mysteries bro, plenty of people here have got it and seen great results.

Can you link me the threads you are talking about ?

 

[looks_minimizing]

I'm 100% serious dawg but you can keep believing whatever you want I ain't stopping you. Gatekeeping is the most logical thing to do not a ragebait tactic. The best way to look better than other people is to improve and not let others do the same.

you're funny bro i'll give you that

 

[bratex2213]

Can you link me the threads you are talking about ?

dont link them teach him about gate keeping

 

[Peco]

so basically what this nigger is saying g he wants me to not surgerymax so he has less competition thats the other option

Surgeries are limiting people imo so I have no problem with others doing them, Im just telling you its not gonna fix your problems, or at least not to the extent to which other things would. But you'll see it for yourself once you do the surgery

 

[looks_minimizing]

Surgeries are limiting people imo so I have no problem with others doing them, Im just telling you its not gonna fix your problems, or at least not to the extent to which other things would. But you'll see it for yourself once you do the surgery

if you were really "gatekeeping" you would have just told him to get the surgery and never have mentioned other methods. you're just bullshitting and everyone's wasting time

 

[Peco]

dont link them teach him about gate keeping

I already look good mate I dont need any surgery, I just wanna see the threads because im sure I can debunk them.

 

[bratex2213]

I already look good mate I dont need any surgery, I just wanna see the threads because im sure I can debunk them.

so do I but looking good mtn range is not enough now days and won't stop until im well into htn range could not care less mogging is as important as making money

 

[pjflee]

Grow the sides of your hair out and cover your forehead with hair, will make your fwhr more ideal

 

[bratex2213]

Grow the sides of your hair out and cover your forehead with hair, will make your fwhr more ideal

already do this im growing monger hair atm, it creates an insane illusion even my nose looks straighter.

 

[pjflee]

already do this im growing monger hair atm, it creates an insane illusion even my nose looks straighter.

It was always about the hair brah

 

[bratex2213]

It was always about the hair brah

nothing but fax niggas assume hair is just nice but hair like the one of skywalker in my avi gives the illusion of a larger and longer skull thats the hair im trying to go for and all of us should

 

[Peco]

if you were really "gatekeeping" you would have just told him to get the surgery and never have mentioned other methods. you're just bullshitting and everyone's wasting time

Gatekeeping is not about not telling anyone, it's about avoiding making things mainstream. If I only hint at something without giving you the actual solution I don't risk anything. Even if you actually discover it you'll never know if that's what I was talking about. I don't want to tell people what the right path is but I have no problem telling them which ones are wrong. I try to make people look for other solutions.
You can think whatever you want of me but the arguments I made are pretty logical, check out the post I just made on surgery if you want.
Also if you think my goal is to gatekeep by telling you not to do surgeries you'd have to think im retarded (which you can do) because it's clear I will never be able to eraticated a concept so deeply rooted in this community by myself, and trying to "gatekeep" by telling a couple people not to go for surgeries is not gonna do anything in the grand scheme of things. Surgery will always at least for the next couple years be seen as a good thing. On the other end if I can steer even one person from the wrong path that'd be a good thing imo

 

[bratex2213]

Most of the people that ask for morphs and talk about how they will get surgery in the future will probably never do it. All surgery does for you is create false expectations and give you a reason to not try as hard. Think about it, if surgery didn't exist you would work and research extra hard because there wouldn't be an "easy" fix to your problems. Reality though isn't much different from this imaginary scenario: surgery is extremely expensive and even if you already had all the money for it, the whole process would take years to complete, if you take into account booking, recovery and braces which you'll likely need. And this is assuming nothing goes wrong. For the entirety of this time like I said you will not work and research as much as you would normally , because everything you do will seem worthless in comparison to the expectations you have for the impact your surgery is gonna have. It's certain though that these expectations will not be met even if everything goes the best possible way. On top of that even assuming everything went right and your expectations were met perfectly which is already borderline impossible, there is still a very high risk of relapse which would make all your efforts useless.

Surgery is slowing you down and limiting you. I really would like yall to give some actual criticism on this.

this is his thread true autism, brother im in the mtn range because I softmaxed everything got to low body fat being gymming for years fashionmaxed did all the bulshit u could ever think of and im forcing myself to be nt which is working as of now, so no the only solution left for me is surgery and steroids other than this improvement in terms of looks are not possible anymore .

 

[looks_minimizing]

Gatekeeping is not about not telling anyone, it's about avoiding making things mainstream. If I only hint at something without giving you the actual solution I don't risk anything. Even if you actually discover it you'll never know if that's what I was talking about. I don't want to tell people what the right path is but I have no problem telling them which ones are wrong. I try to make people look for other solutions.
You can think whatever you want of me but the arguments I made are pretty logical, check out the post I just made on surgery if you want.
Also if you think my goal is to gatekeep by telling you not to do surgeries you'd have to think im retarded (which you can do) because it's clear I will never be able to eraticated a concept so deeply rooted in this community by myself, and trying to "gatekeep" by telling a couple people not to go for surgeries is not gonna do anything in the grand scheme of things. Surgery will always at least for the next couple years be seen as a good thing. On the other end if I can steer even one person from the wrong path that'd be a good thing imo

no, sounds like you're just being a retard and telling people to opt out of a potentially life changing surgery, there is no "other" method bro, if there was it would already be plastered all over this platform regardless of your bullshit gatekeeping.

buds pulling a salludon

 

[bratex2213]

Gatekeeping is not about not telling anyone, it's about avoiding making things mainstream. If I only hint at something without giving you the actual solution I don't risk anything. Even if you actually discover it you'll never know if that's what I was talking about. I don't want to tell people what the right path is but I have no problem telling them which ones are wrong. I try to make people look for other solutions.
You can think whatever you want of me but the arguments I made are pretty logical, check out the post I just made on surgery if you want.
Also if you think my goal is to gatekeep by telling you not to do surgeries you'd have to think im retarded (which you can do) because it's clear I will never be able to eraticated a concept so deeply rooted in this community by myself, and trying to "gatekeep" by telling a couple people not to go for surgeries is not gonna do anything in the grand scheme of things. Surgery will always at least for the next couple years be seen as a good thing. On the other end if I can steer even one person from the wrong path that'd be a good thing imo

nigger if u truly wanted me not to go the wrong path u would lead me the path not bullshit us cuz its funny

 

[Peco]

nigger if u truly wanted me not to go the wrong path u would lead me the path not bullshit us cuz its funny

I explained logically the reason for my actions. Like I said I cannot tell you the right thing to do because that does carry the risk of it becoming mainstream. Im not saying telling you specifically is the problem but it can cause a chain reaction. Im not sure why you keep thinking im making fun of you when I've never hinted to anything like that and always kept things rational. Like I said you can think Im retarded but I can assure you im not trying to make fun of you or anybody else

 

[Peco]

no, sounds like you're just being a retard and telling people to opt out of a potentially life changing surgery, there is no "other" method bro, if there was it would already be plastered all over this platform regardless of your bullshit gatekeeping.

buds pulling a salludon

Your logic is pretty flawed, maybe it will be plastered all over the platform but 2 years from now. By your logic if something is new or not popular yet effective then it must be a lie, which is clearly false, otherwise every method that is famous and deemed as effective now but wasn't 3/4 years ago would be just cope.

 

[looks_minimizing]

Your logic is pretty flawed, maybe it will be plastered all over the platform but 2 years from now. By your logic if something is new or not popular yet effective then it must be a lie, which is clearly false, otherwise every method that is famous and deemed as effective now but wasn't 3/4 years ago would be just cope.

once your facial sutures ossify there is simply no way for you to change the positioning of your facial bones without surgery, that's just basic osteology. I think it would be stupid to claim to be able to revert ossification and reposition your facial structure after this process has already completed.

ultimately I'm not gonna believe anything unless it's vetted with concrete evidence that it works, as I'm not here to waste my time on bullshit like what you're claiming. your supposed method, regardless of what it is, goes against multiple studies done by REAL doctors that are widely accepted within the community. I'm certain with my whole heart that you're just bullshitting because you have nothing else better to do. either that or you're gonna start selling some course to retards who don't know any better jfl.