How to start YOUR First Cycle for Late Teens/Young Adults [EASY TO START + PRICES]

[TERMINATOR0]

good thread hope to see more from u

 

[perdun]

How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?

i think this one is a really profound sentence
in a sense yeah you're dependent on good food, you're dependent on good air, whatever, people around have all kinds of dependencies ... treating them all merely as instruments that aid in pursuing your goals might be the way

to be honest suppression is not really much of a problem, it's just regulation mechanism and makes sense, problem is when the change becomes structural... "use it or lose it", that's what they say

fertility i have doubts too, what do you think about this?

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-you-should-be-pinning-atleast-trt-levels-of-testosterone.1036151/post-15572151

@asdvek

btw what if you drop without PCT, i think you eventually recover either way?
to your previous baseline or less? or maybe bigger even, who knows?
like i think you could frame it that way, you give your body a bit exogenous help (the same way world gives you exogenous doom)... finally it can repair itself, thus when you hop off your body is more healthy, and baseline is better than you had even before the cycle. i don't know if that's possible in reality though. i heard dht has some positive feedback loop properties, as well as progesterone and pregnenolone, they behave similar in that regard...

also, being dependant on test kind of sucks, it has been brought up in this thread, can't even go a few days without worrying about pinning? i guess this is solved by longer esters such as enanthate (7 days half life) and undecanoate (like a month) if you can't get your hands on test for an entire month that is probably the least of your concerns at this point lol (global collapse or whatever)

nonetheless, your arguments are compelling .

 

[doidfestroyer]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

Is this suitable for 15 yrs old?

 

[Faustum]

Is this suitable for 15 yrs old?

If you are somehow able to maintain blood work, yes.

If not, Tren is a better option with proper neuroprotection like Dihexa, Semax, and BP/Sleep supports like Telmisartan, Nebivolol, Mematine, and DSIP.

 

[Faustum]

did you notice clear bone growth in face?

Im 22 so probably not.

 

[Faustum]

to be honest suppression is not really much of a problem, it's just regulation mechanism and makes sense, problem is when the change becomes structural... "use it or lose it", that's what they say

With hCG and HMG there's no issue with fertility. Especially since both are very cheap.

fertility i have doubts too, what do you think about this?

For my particular case, I came from a natural hypogonadal start, so I was borderline struggling for spermatogenesis naturally.

With hCG, my balls have been fuller than pre-cycle, and the semen is much thicker. I expermiented with no hCG for the first 10 weeks, balls shrunk noticeably and semen came out VERY watery.

With hCG, it comes out sticky and gooey confirming I am still capable of Spermatogenesis.

btw what if you drop without PCT, i think you eventually recover either way?

It would be miserable and take months of misery to recover.

With hCG on cycle you can recover in a few weeks instead of months/years if you were not taking hCG

also, being dependant on test kind of sucks, it has been brought up in this thread, can't even go a few days without worrying about pinning? i guess this is solved by longer esters such as enanthate (7 days half life) and undecanoate (like a month) if you can't get your hands on test for an entire month that is probably the least of your concerns at this point lol (global collapse or whatever)

You are dependent on literally everyone else around you to maintain infrastructure. You are dependent on your car, the most unnatural invention. Your phone too. I have long Ester (Test Cyp) and I still pin daily. It's like eating breakfeast now, I am used to it.


The bloat from only pinning 2-3 times a week SUCKS. I highly recommend doing daily for EVERY ester.

nonetheless, your arguments are compelling .

For me, it was life changing.

NEW FOID SLAY + Pregablin + Tren + Test (PHOTOS + AUDIO) LOOKSMAXXING WORKS + DNR SECTIOn

---------------------- THREAD SONG ---------------------- DNR SECTION BELOW DNR SECTION BELOW (SCROLL DOWN) DNR SECTION BELOW 2-3 weeks on Tren 200mg, but Test has been on for 5 months, and HGH for 4 months Nose got smaller from 4 months on Accutane I think? Or a least its less "bulbsy" at...

looksmax.org

 

[ArgonianChad]

Should i add anavar for my first cycle?
great thread btw.

 

[Faustum]

Should i add anavar for my first cycle?
great thread btw.

I did, 33mg daily.

Didn't notice much.

 

[ArgonianChad]

I did, 33mg daily.

Didn't notice much.

Are you sure it wasn’t bunk or some mix

 

[Faustum]

Are you sure it wasn’t bunk or some mix

Anavar is like the baby steroid for a reason, its not worth it IMO

 

[ArgonianChad]

Anavar is like the baby steroid for a reason, its not worth it IMO

Yeah i just know its low on the side effects ig that’s probably why

 

[Faustum]

Yeah i just know its low on the side effects ig that’s probably why

Its the exact thing I thought when I got it too lol.


I also said I'd never do Tren either.

But Tren is the king of AAS for a reason.

 

[ltnchang]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes​

Wouldnt using HCG during PCT create a dependency and stop natural testosterone production after ending pct

 

[SfPBP]

With hCG and HMG there's no issue with fertility. Especially since both are very cheap.


For my particular case, I came from a natural hypogonadal start, so I was borderline struggling for spermatogenesis naturally.

With hCG, my balls have been fuller than pre-cycle, and the semen is much thicker. I expermiented with no hCG for the first 10 weeks, balls shrunk noticeably and semen came out VERY watery.

With hCG, it comes out sticky and gooey confirming I am still capable of Spermatogenesis.

It would be miserable and take months of misery to recover.

With hCG on cycle you can recover in a few weeks instead of months/years if you were not taking hCG



You are dependent on literally everyone else around you to maintain infrastructure. You are dependent on your car, the most unnatural invention. Your phone too. I have long Ester (Test Cyp) and I still pin daily. It's like eating breakfeast now, I am used to it.


The bloat from only pinning 2-3 times a week SUCKS. I highly recommend doing daily for EVERY ester.


For me, it was life changing.

NEW FOID SLAY + Pregablin + Tren + Test (PHOTOS + AUDIO) LOOKSMAXXING WORKS + DNR SECTIOn

---------------------- THREAD SONG ---------------------- DNR SECTION BELOW DNR SECTION BELOW (SCROLL DOWN) DNR SECTION BELOW 2-3 weeks on Tren 200mg, but Test has been on for 5 months, and HGH for 4 months Nose got smaller from 4 months on Accutane I think? Or a least its less "bulbsy" at...

looksmax.org

For daily pins what needle size do you use,IM of subq, and where ?

 

[casenjoyerr]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

good one.

 

[Faustum]

Wouldnt using HCG during PCT create a dependency and stop natural testosterone production after ending pct

You should run hCG throughout the entire cycle.

Its way too cheap to NOT be doing it.

 

[Faustum]

For daily pins what needle size do you use,IM of subq, and where ?

I use 28-29g SubQ

I do it in my hips or ass cheeks

 

[ltnchang]

You should run hCG throughout the entire cycle.

Its way too cheap to NOT be doing it.
View attachment 5289853

Its much more expensive in australia but im gonna run it on cycle anyways. But if you use it during pct wont it mean you wont produce test after you come off hcg?

 

[Wuzzzle]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

mirin your effort ng share me your test source

 

[jozsef316@gmail]

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.

retard cuck

 

[jamieblud]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

Wtf ur ball shrink sob

 

[Faustum]

retard cuck

Its okay to be mentally challenged you can't control it

 

[Faustum]

Its much more expensive in australia but im gonna run it on cycle anyways. But if you use it during pct wont it mean you wont produce test after you come off hcg?

hCG would not be enough on its own for a good PCT. Enclo is needed.

 

[ltnchang]

hCG would not be enough on its own for a good PCT. Enclo is needed.

For pct is just clomid enough. Im going to run hcg on cycle

 

[Faustum]

For pct is just clomid enough. Im going to run hcg on cycle

Yeah that'll work, hCG just replaces LH, it becomes your LH while you are suppressed.

Clomid will stimulate both your natural LH and your FSH

 

[placeinadream]

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

If im going to be taking 300 test for 16 weeks is this still the reccomended amount?

 

[Faustum]

If im going to be taking 300 test for 16 weeks is this still the reccomended amount?

Do it longer and do you even have the ability to get blood work?

 

[placeinadream]

Do it longer and do you even have the ability to get blood work?

yes i’ve already gotten my bloods and i have everything being shipped to me i need for my cycle as im sending this, how long should i run it for? and would those doses for hcg and aromasin still be working correctly at 300. also my e2 levels are like extremely fucking low currently due to me losing insane weight

 

[Faustum]

yes i’ve already gotten my bloods and i have everything being shipped to me i need for my cycle as im sending this, how long should i run it for? and would those doses for hcg and aromasin still be working correctly at 300. also my e2 levels are like extremely fucking low currently due to me losing insane weight

hCG 500-750 IU's a week is enough

Aromasin I do 12.5mg daily but you have to go based on your blood work, Im a high araomatizer.

 

[tjino]

The minimum effective dosage for most men on SUPRA levels of T is 750 units.

Again, I have to ask WHY you can't run it throughout cycle if it cost $100 USD for 1+ year supply of it at 750 units a week

I am still thinking If I should include hcg because it makes it way harder to control E2 and Iam scared of desensitation bc your lowk cooked if your already desensitized on hcg and then start the pct (so literally doesnt do shit when I need it the most)

 

[rzlokizz]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

i prolly sound like a idiot gray but im wondering what u recommend the dose for glutathione or if its the same as NAC aand 1200mg?

 

[Faustum]

Just do NAC 1200mg. You need to do way too much Gluta for it to even be worth it. Should only be used to like recover from a hangover.

i prolly sound like a idiot gray but im wondering what u recommend the dose for glutathione or if its the same as NAC aand 1200mg?

 

[rzlokizz]

i

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

is the 1200mg nac daily or weekly and if its weekly how do u split it

 

[placeinadream]

hCG 500-750 IU's a week is enough

Aromasin I do 12.5mg daily but you have to go based on your blood work, Im a high araomatizer.

dumb question but should i start low and go up to 300 or js pin 300

 

[Faustum]

dumb question but should i start low and go up to 300 or js pin 300

for hCG what I did was not take it for firs 10 weeks.

You then see your semen become literal water.

Then you start hCG and see it become thicker and sticky again confirming you are now able to produce semen through spermatogenesis.

 

[infomraiton]

Good thread how much test should I pin a day or just pin the entire 400 mg on one day

depends on ester of testosterone ideally daily pins with a shorter lasting ester

 

[Faustum]

i

is the 1200mg nac daily or weekly and if its weekly how do u split it

1200mg Daily, usually 2 pills.

 

[sub5archive]

hCG is dirt cheap. 60,000 IU's for $100 USD.

If you can avoid atrophy, it's best to avoid it.

Masteron and Primo are good for E2 management but Primo is stupid expensive for what you get, and Masteron is not good for men who are dealing with norwoods and any DHT-related hairloss.

Testosterone will be doing 95% of the work for muscle growth even if you added Mast or Primo.

How are you getting 60,000 ius for $100, my source is 50,000 for $250

 

[Faustum]

How are you getting 60,000 ius for $100, my source is 50,000 for $250

Couldn't use that source cause all my shit getting taken by customs.

My new source is $55 USD per 10,000 IU vial.

Which 1 vial last you almost half the year so its a great deal regardless, and it's already in NA so no customs.

 

[Thenightslayer]

The ULTIMATE Guide for First-Time Testosterone Users (2026)

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY TO INJECT, FEEL, AND POSSESS LEVELS OF TESTOSTERONE NO OTHER MAN HAS HAD BEFORE... AND YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THIS?

View attachment 4869128
“It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Why Do You Want Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone?
When you inject exogenous testosterone, your blood levels become far more stable than they ever were naturally. Even if you had “normal” natural levels (400–700 ng/dL), they still fluctuated daily. On 300–600 mg/week injected properly, you will experience stable Testosterone levels throughout the day IF you are pinning 5x-7x a week.


The most famous study on Supra Levels of Testosterone is Bhasin 1996

In this study, normal men were given 600 mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks. The most important group in this study was the group that was ON Supraphysiological levels of T and DID NOT WORK OUT.

The group that received testosterone without training gained significantly MORE muscle mass and strength than the group that trained naturally without testosterone.


THIS is why you want to be at supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

At this level, everything is significantly improved.
Protein Synthesis goes way up (20-40% depending on person)
Nutrient partitioning, more of what you eat goes toward building muscle instead of fat.
The most noticeable and life changing thing will be going from Low T (200-400) to Supra T, I would liken to second puberty.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?
Confidence? Supra T will do this.
Muscle Gain? Supra T will do this.
Libido? Supra T will do this.
Drive? Supra T will do this.
Amazing Energy Levels? Supra T will do this.
Mental Clarity? Supra T will do this.
Insane Recovery? Supra T will do this.
Permanent Muscle Memory? Supra T will do this.

If you are under 25:
You’re still in a window where higher testosterone can enhance masculine features over time. Increased jaw density and masseter thickness, broader shoulders and upper chest, and Fat redistribution away from the face and lower body. But these are SLOW and TAKE TIME. Hence why the most important part we will speak on is:

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

The first 4–8 weeks are quick strength, fullness, and mental changes from elevated hormones and water/glycogen. I was going to do one vial of T when I first started, and thought that was good enough. But once you feel 2000ng, it's hard to go back.

Permanent muscle growth, you'll develop new myonuclei and contractile tissue which ONLY accelerates after week 8–10 and continues strongly through months 4–12.

( ! ) Running shorter cycles for 8–12 weeks is retarded, you are LEAVING right as the best gains are starting to compound. ( ! )

A longer first cycle gives you time to learn how your body responds, dial in estrogen management, bloodwork, training, and diet. all while building significant muscle memory that stays with you even if you eventually cruise or come off.

View attachment 4869129
What Are The Side Effects? How Can I Counter Them?

Supraphysiological testosterone, it's in the name, Supra, Beyond Natural. With that comes responsibility. Every benefit has potential downsides. The good news is that most sides are manageable IF you stay PROACTIVE with bloodwork, supplements, and YOUR lifestyle.​

---

1. ESTROGEN
Water retention, facial puffiness, mood swings, irritability, increased anger, possible gyno sensitivity. Mine was very high.
View attachment 4868810
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH ESTROGEN
Use Aromasin AFTER BLOODTEST I was a super aromatizer, but you might not be. Higher fat = more aromatization. If you CRUSH your E2 you will be miserable. STAY HYDRATED.
Aromasin cost $60 USD​

---

2. FERTILITY
Your natural LH/FSH shuts down, balls shrink and sperm production drops.

This happens because your body believes you have too much Testosterone, and therefore, you are not needing to produce your own. So to counter this, we are going to REPLACE LH with hCG, which will be taken LH's place.

HOW TO COUNTER BALL ATROPHY + MAINTAIN SPERMATOGENESIS
Run hCG at 750-1,000 IU per week. 60,000 IU's of hCG cost $100 USD. This will cover you for 80 weeks IF you run 750 IU's a week.​

---

3. RBC (Red Blood Cell Count)
When at very high levels of Testosterone, you will produce more RBC, Hematocrit can rise, blood pressure can increase, HDL often drops, LDL can rise.

( ! ) ALL CARDIOVASCULAR BLACK BOX LABELS WERE REMOVED FROM TESTOSTERONE IN 2025 BY FDA ( ! )
(LINK)
HOW TO COUNTER HIGH RBC
Donate blood if HCT goes above 52%. So you basically get to save other peoples lives and keep RBC in check. Not really a downside.
LOWERING your Testosterone Dosage is also an option.
Monitor your Blood Pressure at home once a week.​

---

4. HAIR LOSS & ACNE
DHT accelerates male pattern baldness (if predisposed to it) and increases oiliness/acne.

HOW TO COUNTER ACNE AND HAIRLOSS
Finasteride 1.25 mg daily blocks most DHT conversion.
Oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg daily helps maintain and regrow hair. Also slightly lowers BP
Accutane 40–60 mg, this is extremely effective for acne/oil control, check Liver while on this. Permanently will shrink pores (W)

5. OXIDATIVE STRESS (Long Term Usage 6-12 months)
When you run supraphysiological testosterone for a long time, your body produces significantly more ROS. This comes from your newly increased metabolic rate and newly elevated red blood cell count.

IF you left this unchecked, OS can damage your cells, accelerate aging, and harm your lipids. The good news is that it’s highly manageable with the right support.


I take a comprehensive stack that is made to counter the oxidative load from Supra T:​

NAC (N-Acetylcysteine) 1200 mg – Directly boosts glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. Essential for neutralizing ROS and protecting the liver (especially useful while on Accutane). IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO, INJECT GLUTATHIONE DIRECTLY, THE MASTER ANTI-OXIDANT OF YOUR BODY, NAC IS CHEAPER.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 600 mg – Regenerates other antioxidants (including glutathione and CoQ10) and supports mitochondrial health.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) 200 mg – Protects mitochondria from oxidative damage and supports heart health as red blood cell count rises.

Omega-3 Fish Oil (3600 mg total, high EPA/DHA) – Anti-inflammatory that helps protect lipids and reduces systemic oxidative stress.

Magnesium 400–500 mg – Reduces inflammation and supports cellular energy production.

Vitamin D 6000 IU – Helps modulate immune response and lowers oxidative stress markers.

Semax Nasal Spray (100–200 mcg daily) – This is a strong neuroprotective and antioxidant effects in the brain. Increases BDNF and helps protect neurons from oxidative stress caused by high androgens and training.

$80–120 USD per month for full stack.
View attachment 4868872
What Should I Take To Support My Body At Supra Levels of T
​

Cialis (Tadalafil) 5 mg daily - Dirt cheap, great boners. AND It's Cardioprotective.

hCG 750 IU per week (350 IU, 2x per week) - Prevents severe testicular atrophy and helps preserve spermatogenesis

Aromasin 12.5 mg, 3x per week - Keeps estradiol in a healthy range. Prevents gyno, facial bloat, water retention, mood swings, and irritability caused by high Estrogen.

See above this section for Oxidative Stress Stack + Hair Loss Stack
View attachment 4869028
Recommended Dosage Progression
300–350 mg of Testosterone per week 4-8 weeks
This is the ideal starting range for most first-timers. It put me at 2000ng/dL. This dosage alone will give you noticeable benefits in muscle gains, strength, energy, and confidence while keeping side effects VERY manageable.

At this level, you will figure out how bad your body aromatizes into Estrogen, how your hematocrit responds, and how you feel mentally before pushing higher.​

---

400-450 mg of Testosterone per week 8-15 weeks (After Bloodwork)
This is the sweet spot for most men. The jump from 300–350 mg to 400 mg will give you improvement in gains, your recovery, and overall feeling without a massive spike in sides, why? Because managed them FIRST on the lower dosage, now our body is ready for more, and we know how we respond.
​

---

500-600 mg of Testosterone per week 16+ weeks (Run for 4-9 weeks, return to 325-400)
This is still within a “clinical supraphysiological” range, if you even care about staying within the clinical dosage ranges. Going above 600 mg will likely bring you diminishing returns and a much steeper increase in side effects.​

---

What Compounds Actually Pairs Well With Testosterone
Once you’re comfortable with testosterone alone, many users consider adding other anabolic compounds to enhance results. The smartest additions are those that COMPLIMENT testosterone, because Testosterone is our anabolic BASE.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
One of the most popular add-ons while on Testosterone. Why?
Testosterone builds muscle through androgen receptors, your AR density is genetic. HGH works through a completely different pathway through increasing IGF-1 in the Liver, nutrient partitioning, and lipolysis.

Test will drive your protein synthesis and strength, HGH will aid in your fat loss and recovery. It also gives you better skin quality, joint health, and sleep.

Beginner / Fat-loss focused: 2 IU per day
Standard effective dose: 3 IU per day (most common sweet spot)
Advanced: 4–6 IU per day (higher sides and cost)

500 IU's with 96.4% Purity is around $350 USD.

@Zagro has written an in-depth thread on HGH:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/

Recommended Bloodwork Schedule
Baseline (Before Starting Cycle)
- Total Testosterone + Free Testosterone
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2)
- LH + FSH
- Prolactin
- CBC (includes Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, RBC)
- Lipid Panel (HDL, LDL, Triglycerides)
- PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen)
- Liver Enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP)
- SHBG

How to get Bloodwork Requistions I show in this thread
https://looksmax.org/threads/free-bloodtest-and-prescriptions-method.1941922/#post-27196406

Week 6–8 (First On-Cycle Check)
After you’ve stabilized on your dose:

- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) – Most important early marker
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin
- Lipid Panel
- Total Testosterone (to confirm levels)
- Prolactin (optional but useful)

Every 3 Months (Ongoing Monitoring)
Once you’re past the initial 8 weeks:
- Sensitive Estradiol (E2) > Aim for 73–183 pmol/L
- CBC / Hematocrit / Hemoglobin > Keep under 52%. Donate blood if it goes higher.
- Lipid Panel > Watch HDL, ideally >40 mg/dL and LDL. Omega-3 helps a lot here.
- PSA > Should stay in normal range. Any big jump needs attention.
- Liver Enzymes > Monitor closely while on Accutane.
- Prolactin (if previously elevated)

PCT (For Men with Fat Pussies)
Post Cycle Therapy
If for some reason you needed or wanted to come off Testosterone, here is how you'd go about it.

Most guys mess this part up. Retards either cold-turkey it and crash hard, or they run an outdated PCT that leaves them with low energy, lost gains, and depressed for months. Don’t be that guy.

Taper the Dose (4–6 weeks)
Do not go from 400 mg straight to zero. Drop gradually:
Weeks 1–2: Drop to 300 mg/week
Weeks 3–4: Drop to 200 mg/week

Weeks 5–6: Drop to 100 mg/week (or 150 mg if you feel too bad)
This slow taper gives your body time to start restarting natural production instead of slamming the brakes and crashing

Run a Proper PCT
Once you’re at 100–150 mg/week or lower, start PCT:

hCG – 1000–1500 IU every other day for 2 weeks (highly recommended if you were on hCG on-cycle)
Clomid– 50 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 25 mg daily for 2 weeks
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 20 mg daily for 4 weeks, then 10 mg daily for 2 weeks
(You can run both Clomid + Nolvadex together for better results)

Total PCT length should be 6–8 weeks after your last testosterone injection.

We taper off slowly, which won't give us a hormonal crash, we use hCG to jumpstart our Testes, and then we use CLomid and Nolvadex to block E2 and signal our pituitary and simulate our natural LH/FSH Production again.


View attachment 4868985
Why Being Natural Is Cope

There is NOTHING Natural about modern society.

Anyone who says they want to try the "natural" way to raise T or moralsplain to you on why you should not take Exogenous Hormones, tell them that next time they get infection, don't take antibiotics, those aren't natural, in fact, none of modern medicine, so just die to an infected cut. Cars? Very unnatural, use a horse, or better yet, walk.

But they won't, because cars, and other unnatural things are convenient. Injecting Exogenous Testosterone is not only MORE convenient but it's even SUPERIOR to Endogenous Testosterone.

People every day take advantage of the most unnatural habits, do not join them in their sheep-like delusions. Never before have you had MORE tools at your disposal to ascend, to become a better man. Do it now or regret it. Do not aim to live the longest, down to the last second, but to live to the fullest.​

Good thread, explains how to counter everything decently

 

[AryanSchizo]

No roids for your face tho
Any positive changes to the face after roiding for men 21+?
jw

 

[Faustum]

No roids for your face tho
Any positive changes to the face after roiding for men 21+?
jw

Yes dude. Life changing.

and I just got filler done soooo much W shit has been happening I cannot praise roids enough.

you just need to get bloodtest and have suppor stack

 

[AryanSchizo]

Yes dude. Life changing.

and I just got filler done soooo much W shit has been happening I cannot praise roids enough.

you just need to get bloodtest and have suppor stack

I might have to get on trt soon, I’m 25 and having low T symptoms the last 2 months.
Idc for having supraphysiological levels of test , just optimal for health and wellbeing, which is attractiveness.

 

[Faustum]

I might have to get on trt soon, I’m 25 and having low T symptoms the last 2 months.
Idc for having supraphysiological levels of test , just optimal for health and wellbeing, which is attractiveness.

Plenty of healthy manlets.

Read the thread as to why you want Supra levels.

 

[Sxnguinius]

hCG is so incredibly cheap it makes sense to only run it continuously on cycle.

I didn't run it for the first 11 weeks. But there are 2 new sources I found that have it for such a great price, it makes it a no brainer to add it.

You can't really test for hCG, just gotta feel your balls make sure they feel full or plump. If they don't, up from 750 IU's to 1,000.

js do the pregnancy test method to check if hcg is real

 

[Idontknow-]

How Long Should My First Cycle Be?

9-12 Months minimum.
Why?

Thats seems too long bro

 

[Faustum]

Thats seems too long bro

It’s not, blast and cruise

 

[gigatedcruz]

Im 6 weeks in and my total testosterone went from 615 to 1669, my free went from 125.7 to 428.6 and my bio available is at 807. I’m on 200mg Test E per week. Am I fucked?

 

[Faustum]

Im 6 weeks in and my total testosterone went from 615 to 1669, my free went from 125.7 to 428.6 and my bio available is at 807. I’m on 200mg Test E per week. Am I fucked?

Seems fine to me?

 

[gigatedcruz]

Seems fine to me?

Thanks. I don’t know what’s normal or not. Just seemed high to me but that’s why I’m here