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Pre-reading, another great & more concise post by @jefferson
looksmax.org
This "guide" is purely theoretical, no actions should be made off of the content of this post, and I am not liable for any consequences that following this thread would have
First Steroid Cycle
Your first cycle should be a bulk using 500mg of testosterone weekly. This cycle should last between 12 and 15 weeks, although if you buy 3 vials you'll have enough for 15 weeks so you may as well use it all. This cycle is recommended because the side effects are mild and most can easily be...
looksmax.org
This "guide" is purely theoretical, no actions should be made off of the content of this post, and I am not liable for any consequences that following this thread would have
I'm making this guide because it seems like there's about 10 of these posted every day, with some 13 year old asking if some absurd shit like 1g test 100 tren a 200 deca will help him gain 5 pounds. To very briefly preface this guide, if you can't drink, then avoid 19-nors (nandrolone, trenbolone, ment) as they come with progestogenic effects & raise prolactin unpredictably. Tren especially is known to have extreme neurotoxic effects.
"But you will die at 40!" Yes, PEDs may age you, but don't consider yourself a looksmaxxer if you're not willing to shave a few years off of your life in order to get the physique halo steroids will give you. A lot of the other fears surrounding PEDs are false anyways. If you do everything right, at most you'd end up with a receding hairline 10 years later or 5% smaller testicles.
Inb4 "heckin jimcel cope," I hope you read this
This guide assumes that you have a debit/credit-card & a living space
Now I will detail what your first cycle should be.
You should be taking somewhere from 250-600 mg of test weekly, with an aromatase inhibitor (more important if your plates are fused) and you could consider growth hormone, insulin, and other compounds to aid in recovery & growth velocity, but generally for your first cycle you should ONLY be using test as, if you think you will ever want to use them later, the knowledge of your body's aromatizing rate & response to AAS is indispensable. I recommend dosing E3.5D while doing E4D in reality as there is a minimal difference when it comes to long esters. If you don't care, then go ahead, kickstart it, or go crazy, it's not as simple as it's bad, just I don't recommend it.
Now you can either pick the poor man's route, or, if you're willing to spend 1.5-3x more, the rich man's route.
The total cost of following this will be around 300-700$, largely depending on your source, whether you have amazon prime, etc.
I assume most who will use this spoiler are minors. I recommend that you don't get pediatric blood work as there are a few horror stories I've seen where the clinic goes and rats you out for having supraphysiological test to your parents. Consider anonymous prescription free bloodwork, but this means no insurance, so literally more expensive per month than everything else in this guide.
First, find your source. This is probably the easiest step, there are bodybuilding forums and source-dedicated forums. This will be from UGLS, meaning that the only quality assurance you'll be getting is vets from previous buyers, tests, and common sense. This should be instinctive but NEVER pay directly with card for anything illegal. Sellers know this so they don't accept card, they will ask for BTC. If you are a minor, then you cannot use centralized exchanges, and so the best way to get crypto (AFAIK) Is following my guide. A few days after making my guide somebody on the exchange named "moneyforroids" bought like 600$ worth of btc meanwhile my thread had 3 reps, fuck you if you are reading this, rep my thread.
My guide on how to get crypto
If you cannot find a source, well, boyo, you're too retarded or too young to be on steroids.
Purchase the amount you want of test E or test C. There is generally no difference between the two molecules themselves except E's elimination half life is like a day longer & some say it has less PIP post injection pain than C. In pharma stuff, however, test E is grapeseed and test C is cottonseed, so test C is thinner. Most UGLS use MCT or Miglyol triglycerides for essentially every injectable so it doesn't really matter.
If the listing says 250 Test C, that means that there's 250 megs of C per mililiter in it.
Aromasin is different, though, it's much more linear in its dose-effects relationship, and a lot of people say that it's easier to recover from crashed E2 from it compared to the other two. However, it's also more expensive.
Once you have a source, download Amazon. Find a product of needles (optimally one box of 22g, one box of 25-27g). I personally use luer lock as it's simple, stable, and should work fine for most. It does tax a small amount of fluid but if you switched from lock doses to slip doses you wouldn't feel a thing.
Note that you should avoid using under 21g for drawing (a mistake I did, as I used 18g for drawing). Especially if you're using Amazon needles it's a good chance the hole the needle leaves in the rubber will not self-seal, and, worst case, which happened to my first time, peel rubber while it's going through and contaminate your vial. 22g should completely avoid any of that while still being somewhat fast.
Search term - 22g needle 1 in luer lock, 26g needle 1 in luer lock
To put into perspective how much gauges matter, the difference in the flow rate between 22g and 26g is something like 500%. If you're unsure, just ask AI.
You will be using the 22gs to draw and the thinner needles to administer your sauzule. Higher than 27g, and the oil will face a lot of resistance coming out, forcing you to press down hardly and ironically causing more damage. Lower than 23g, and you are causing yourself unnecessary pain and increasing scar tissue in the long term
Then grab yourself syringes, 1cc-3cc will work but if you think you're going to be afraid on your first pin I recommend choosing 1cc.
Search term - 1cc (or whatever you want it to be) syringe luer lock
Important - Alcohol wipes
The cheapest thing here, like 10 bucks for 400 units, you will be shooting the bacteria on your skin & stopper tops directly into your muscles if you skip this step, should be common sense
Optional - Sharps bin
They are made of thick plastic & very, very, obvious. (Literally neon red and yellow.) If you live alone they may make hiding your supplies a little harder, but if you don't want to end up accidentally stabbing yourself to the bone later on, I recommend getting one, or any other very thick plastic container.
Now once you've got everything, follow these steps to ensure cleanliness
Take your alcohol wipes. Wipe down where you want to inject, and don't touch it at all after. For your first pin I'd say the delt is the best spot, it's hard to miss, if this picture is hard to understand, just feel for the thickest part of your delt
Then wipe down the top of your vial of test thoroughly.
Now, take your syringe, unwrap it. Hold it near the plunger, do not touch the hub. Now take your 22g needle and unwrap it, hold it by the cap (over the tip). Uncap it, SAVE THE CAP. Screw the needle top into the hub until moving it is very difficult.
Uncap the needle and then make sure the syringe's plunger is down to the bottom. (My amazon syringes personally always have like a random hundreth of a ml of air in it.) Draw in the equal amount of air you want to take out.
For example, if you had a 250 mg/ml test C vial, and wanted 500 mgs per week, you'd draw in 1 ML. As aforementioned, if you take this E4D, that's negligibly less than 500 Mgs per week.
Now, perpendicular to the top, push in the syringe, and inject the air. (preferably not into the oil, into empty space, if there is any.) Continue holding the plunger down. Now slowly flip the vial upside down with the syringe, careful not to twist it around. Relax your grip and the syringe should naturally start drawing from it as the contents try to equalize pressure with the outside. If it doesn't fully match it, that's fine, finish drawing it and slowly flip the vial back down, take the syringe out. Now, importantly,
Never reuse the needle you use to draw, even pharmacy needles and especially Amazon needles, they WILL become blunt or worse fray.
Put the cap back on so you can unscrew the needle, and add on the thinner needle, again, save the cap (though if you do lose it nothing to stress about this time, toss it in the sharps bin.) You will end up losing something like 0.05 mls from this, nothing to be concerned about. Relax the arm that you're going to inject in, and then line it up 90 degrees to the surface. The recommended technique is to quickly do it to minimize damage, pain, etc, but if you can't just slowly push it in, it's fine. It should feel like a slight sting for about the first 2/3s of the way in, then you should feel a sudden change in resistance, and a sharp pain. Just push through it, that's a sign you reached the outer tissue of the muscle. Once the needles all the way down, start gently pushing the plunger down, and once it's completely down, grab it, look away, and try to pull it out as straight and fast as you can to minimize the pain. Since it's your first injection you will probably hit off, or insert it at a 88 degree, whatever, so pain is normal. This should go without saying, but DO NOT flex the delts in any way now, keep your elbow to your side, this will worsen the PIP and might cause the oil to leak out. Cap it and toss it in the sharp bins. Grab another alcohol wipe (old should be dry now anyways so less of a reason to reuse it) and wipe down the area, bandage it if it starts leaking anyways, but this will be pretty obvious that you're taking shit when you start getting frustrated with a bandage on both delts. When I did it for the first time I felt euphoric, genuinely like I just snorted a line of coke. Enjoy the high.
Now, you're gonna repeat this every four days, (if you did on monday then do on friday), and once you've done this for about 2-3 weeks, start taking your aromatase inhibitor. I recommend cutting them in half for two weeks then using the full doses if you still feel high E2 symptoms.
Make sure you're properly logging and counting the days, don't be a retard, and your 10 weeks should be over with relatively no issues.
I assume most who will use this spoiler are minors. I recommend that you don't get pediatric blood work as there are a few horror stories I've seen where the clinic goes and rats you out for having supraphysiological test to your parents. Consider anonymous prescription free bloodwork, but this means no insurance, so literally more expensive per month than everything else in this guide.
Injectables
First, find your source. This is probably the easiest step, there are bodybuilding forums and source-dedicated forums. This will be from UGLS, meaning that the only quality assurance you'll be getting is vets from previous buyers, tests, and common sense. This should be instinctive but NEVER pay directly with card for anything illegal. Sellers know this so they don't accept card, they will ask for BTC. If you are a minor, then you cannot use centralized exchanges, and so the best way to get crypto (AFAIK) Is following my guide. A few days after making my guide somebody on the exchange named "moneyforroids" bought like 600$ worth of btc meanwhile my thread had 3 reps, fuck you if you are reading this, rep my thread.
My guide on how to get crypto
If you cannot find a source, well, boyo, you're too retarded or too young to be on steroids.
Purchase the amount you want of test E or test C. There is generally no difference between the two molecules themselves except E's elimination half life is like a day longer & some say it has less PIP post injection pain than C. In pharma stuff, however, test E is grapeseed and test C is cottonseed, so test C is thinner. Most UGLS use MCT or Miglyol triglycerides for essentially every injectable so it doesn't really matter.
If the listing says 250 Test C, that means that there's 250 megs of C per mililiter in it.
Supports
Again, incredibly easy to find, and the second most cheapest thing in this guide version, Indiamart is fine. You will want an aromatase inhibitor, so Letrozole, Aromasin, Anastrozole. There is not really a significant difference between Letrozole and Anastrozole but Letrozole in theory has a higher maximum potential for inhibition. (Not inherently a good thing.) Just pick whichever one you can find cheapest. In clinical settings they had similar results, but Letrozole at a low dose is interesting, as at like 0.5mg it still retains like 70-80% effectiveness compared to a 2.5mg dose.
Aromasin is different, though, it's much more linear in its dose-effects relationship, and a lot of people say that it's easier to recover from crashed E2 from it compared to the other two. However, it's also more expensive.
Needles
The lower a needles' gauge, the higher its diameter. 18g hurts like a bitch, you can't feel 31g. That also means that what flows through 18g like water would take hours to drip out of 31g.
Once you have a source, download Amazon. Find a product of needles (optimally one box of 22g, one box of 25-27g). I personally use luer lock as it's simple, stable, and should work fine for most. It does tax a small amount of fluid but if you switched from lock doses to slip doses you wouldn't feel a thing.
Note that you should avoid using under 21g for drawing (a mistake I did, as I used 18g for drawing). Especially if you're using Amazon needles it's a good chance the hole the needle leaves in the rubber will not self-seal, and, worst case, which happened to my first time, peel rubber while it's going through and contaminate your vial. 22g should completely avoid any of that while still being somewhat fast.
Search term - 22g needle 1 in luer lock, 26g needle 1 in luer lock
To put into perspective how much gauges matter, the difference in the flow rate between 22g and 26g is something like 500%. If you're unsure, just ask AI.
You will be using the 22gs to draw and the thinner needles to administer your sauzule. Higher than 27g, and the oil will face a lot of resistance coming out, forcing you to press down hardly and ironically causing more damage. Lower than 23g, and you are causing yourself unnecessary pain and increasing scar tissue in the long termThen grab yourself syringes, 1cc-3cc will work but if you think you're going to be afraid on your first pin I recommend choosing 1cc.
Search term - 1cc (or whatever you want it to be) syringe luer lock
Important - Alcohol wipes
The cheapest thing here, like 10 bucks for 400 units, you will be shooting the bacteria on your skin & stopper tops directly into your muscles if you skip this step, should be common sense
Optional - Sharps bin
They are made of thick plastic & very, very, obvious. (Literally neon red and yellow.) If you live alone they may make hiding your supplies a little harder, but if you don't want to end up accidentally stabbing yourself to the bone later on, I recommend getting one, or any other very thick plastic container.
First injection / Injecting
Now once you've got everything, follow these steps to ensure cleanliness
Take your alcohol wipes. Wipe down where you want to inject, and don't touch it at all after. For your first pin I'd say the delt is the best spot, it's hard to miss, if this picture is hard to understand, just feel for the thickest part of your delt
Then wipe down the top of your vial of test thoroughly.
Now, take your syringe, unwrap it. Hold it near the plunger, do not touch the hub. Now take your 22g needle and unwrap it, hold it by the cap (over the tip). Uncap it, SAVE THE CAP. Screw the needle top into the hub until moving it is very difficult.
Uncap the needle and then make sure the syringe's plunger is down to the bottom. (My amazon syringes personally always have like a random hundreth of a ml of air in it.) Draw in the equal amount of air you want to take out.
For example, if you had a 250 mg/ml test C vial, and wanted 500 mgs per week, you'd draw in 1 ML. As aforementioned, if you take this E4D, that's negligibly less than 500 Mgs per week.
Now, perpendicular to the top, push in the syringe, and inject the air. (preferably not into the oil, into empty space, if there is any.) Continue holding the plunger down. Now slowly flip the vial upside down with the syringe, careful not to twist it around. Relax your grip and the syringe should naturally start drawing from it as the contents try to equalize pressure with the outside. If it doesn't fully match it, that's fine, finish drawing it and slowly flip the vial back down, take the syringe out. Now, importantly,
Never reuse the needle you use to draw, even pharmacy needles and especially Amazon needles, they WILL become blunt or worse fray.
Put the cap back on so you can unscrew the needle, and add on the thinner needle, again, save the cap (though if you do lose it nothing to stress about this time, toss it in the sharps bin.) You will end up losing something like 0.05 mls from this, nothing to be concerned about. Relax the arm that you're going to inject in, and then line it up 90 degrees to the surface. The recommended technique is to quickly do it to minimize damage, pain, etc, but if you can't just slowly push it in, it's fine. It should feel like a slight sting for about the first 2/3s of the way in, then you should feel a sudden change in resistance, and a sharp pain. Just push through it, that's a sign you reached the outer tissue of the muscle. Once the needles all the way down, start gently pushing the plunger down, and once it's completely down, grab it, look away, and try to pull it out as straight and fast as you can to minimize the pain. Since it's your first injection you will probably hit off, or insert it at a 88 degree, whatever, so pain is normal. This should go without saying, but DO NOT flex the delts in any way now, keep your elbow to your side, this will worsen the PIP and might cause the oil to leak out. Cap it and toss it in the sharp bins. Grab another alcohol wipe (old should be dry now anyways so less of a reason to reuse it) and wipe down the area, bandage it if it starts leaking anyways, but this will be pretty obvious that you're taking shit when you start getting frustrated with a bandage on both delts. When I did it for the first time I felt euphoric, genuinely like I just snorted a line of coke. Enjoy the high.
Now, you're gonna repeat this every four days, (if you did on monday then do on friday), and once you've done this for about 2-3 weeks, start taking your aromatase inhibitor. I recommend cutting them in half for two weeks then using the full doses if you still feel high E2 symptoms.
Make sure you're properly logging and counting the days, don't be a retard, and your 10 weeks should be over with relatively no issues.
The total cost of following this will be around 1000$,
If you follow this I assume you are an adult and so, you should arrange bloodwork to be done once a month or once every two months. One month would line perfectly with when the test should saturate with the effects of the AI as well, if you start right before you hop on.
For certain details skim through poor, no repeating here, so it's short. A few notable changes will be made here.
Finding a source, again, should be relatively easy. If you go get true pharma shit, well, that's your source. If you get UGL gear or anything you inject at all, however, if you care about your safety, look into filtering. I will briefly describe it. Find a medical and lab supplies website, grab yourself some high-quality, sterile, all of the above vials, and an equal amount of high quality syringe filters. Don't bother with 30+ of either you will never, ever, need it unless you start doing homebrewing or some shit. Avoid Amazon vials and needles and syringe filters, they are made like all things of that nature to get the highest margin disregarding quality. The website would also usually possess some needles. BD, Nipro, Easy Touch needles slip through tissue cleaner, less coring, faster flow as the walls are thinner, bigger tits in general compared to Amazon needles. If you want to go the extra mile, you can also get some syringes as well, but Amazon syringes are usually fine. Grab a vial decapper, I don't know where to grab them, just get one. Grab yourself some 10ml syringes or 20ml syringes.
Hydrophobic: Blocks water, use for oils. Hydrophilic: Lets water pass through, use for peptides, proteins.
Important note: Non pharma gh is especially dangerous, they can contain amyloids, which leads to uncurable life altering conditions. I might even make a separate thread on filtering & the danger of it, since this thread will likely not gain very much traction, and how the title "YOUR GH IS GOING TO RAPE YOUR BRAIN" would probably get me thousands of views & reps.
Get your sterile vial, clean, poke with a smaller needle, leave it, take a big needle, attach it to the syringe filter, poke it, leave it. Get your syringe, remove the plunger, then attach the syringe to the syringe filter on the big needle. Now get your UGL vial, decap, hold the syringe still, pour it slowly into the syringe. Readd the plunger, push it down gently as to not break the filter's delicate membrane, and you're done. You can now be assured that you're not pinning straight toxins.
If you follow this I assume you are an adult and so, you should arrange bloodwork to be done once a month or once every two months. One month would line perfectly with when the test should saturate with the effects of the AI as well, if you start right before you hop on.
For certain details skim through poor, no repeating here, so it's short. A few notable changes will be made here.
Finding a source, again, should be relatively easy. If you go get true pharma shit, well, that's your source. If you get UGL gear or anything you inject at all, however, if you care about your safety, look into filtering. I will briefly describe it. Find a medical and lab supplies website, grab yourself some high-quality, sterile, all of the above vials, and an equal amount of high quality syringe filters. Don't bother with 30+ of either you will never, ever, need it unless you start doing homebrewing or some shit. Avoid Amazon vials and needles and syringe filters, they are made like all things of that nature to get the highest margin disregarding quality. The website would also usually possess some needles. BD, Nipro, Easy Touch needles slip through tissue cleaner, less coring, faster flow as the walls are thinner, bigger tits in general compared to Amazon needles. If you want to go the extra mile, you can also get some syringes as well, but Amazon syringes are usually fine. Grab a vial decapper, I don't know where to grab them, just get one. Grab yourself some 10ml syringes or 20ml syringes.
Hydrophobic: Blocks water, use for oils. Hydrophilic: Lets water pass through, use for peptides, proteins.
Important note: Non pharma gh is especially dangerous, they can contain amyloids, which leads to uncurable life altering conditions. I might even make a separate thread on filtering & the danger of it, since this thread will likely not gain very much traction, and how the title "YOUR GH IS GOING TO RAPE YOUR BRAIN" would probably get me thousands of views & reps.
Get your sterile vial, clean, poke with a smaller needle, leave it, take a big needle, attach it to the syringe filter, poke it, leave it. Get your syringe, remove the plunger, then attach the syringe to the syringe filter on the big needle. Now get your UGL vial, decap, hold the syringe still, pour it slowly into the syringe. Readd the plunger, push it down gently as to not break the filter's delicate membrane, and you're done. You can now be assured that you're not pinning straight toxins.
Supports
You will want to help your lipid profile, so things like berberine and citrus bergamot. This is mainly water, there are multiple other threads that list supports, check them out. Consider neuroprotective compounds, (Selank, Epithalon, eg.) and compound support for your tendons as they obviously don't strengthen as fast as muscle, so things like GHK, TB, BPC. You can try the KLOW blend but you'd be wasting some money on KPV, which is entirely useless from what I know. (Might as well take NACET or astaxanthin.)
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