How ugly am I and is there any potential and if there is what should I do 16m

[justine]

i see you don't need a mandible, but your mandible is narrow, and ur maxilla is normal. I legit don't know how to help you, it just looks weird.

Ik my harmony is shit

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

This is my palate
But i don’t think my infras are recessed because I don’t have a negative orbital vector it’s just 8 have a saggy lower eyelid and my canthal tilt isn’t that great
But infra implants would make me look better a lot
View attachment 4965526

I feel like your main issues are asymmetries and the obvious short face syndrome
I can also tell your breathing is shit by how deviated your nose is
Your maxilla is CANTED meaning its crooked like so:

So your orbital sits at different heights, crooked nose, lips, etc...

I really don't think you're going to do orthodontics or anything outside of buying Based hair clay and Cerave off amazon

BUT the 0.001% chance you do and because I'm feeling generous.

I would consult a MARPE provider and get them to position the device at a TILT, so we can try and improve the CANT. This would improve symmetry, give you some CW which you desperately need, bring your mandible forward, and widen your midface so your eyes don't look as big.

It would also help with the orbital asymmetry, there's cases and one on this forum where someone had uneven orbitals, and the device PUSHED it up to where it was leveled.

ALSO it will improve canthal tilt as well, so it's not as NEGATIVE

By the end of expansion if your smile is still canted or you have a "gummy smile" they can use tads to fully correct this

I'm mindlessly typing but know I'm right, shit formatting but very valuable information for you. Start working you need 5-7k (ask ur parents to pitch in). Pls don't waste your time softmaxxing, you don't look that UGLY as is, and the softmaxxing at this point wouldn't do ENTIRELY much, but it could probably improve your confidence since you feel better

 

[littlefingers]

Ok but what surgeries everybody keeps saying get surgeries but not saying which ones exactly that would act acsend me to htn

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heres a good place to start do the research if there is something on your face you want to fix there is atleast one good thread you can go on

 

[justine]

I feel like your main issues are asymmetries and the obvious short face syndrome
I can also tell your breathing is shit by how deviated your nose is
Your maxilla is CANTED meaning its crooked like so:
View attachment 4965537
So your orbital sits at different heights, crooked nose, lips, etc...

I really don't think you're going to do orthodontics or anything outside of buying Based hair clay and Cerave off amazon

BUT the 0.001% chance you do and because I'm feeling generous.

I would consult a MARPE provider and get them to position the device at a TILT, so we can try and improve the CANT. This would improve symmetry, give you some CW which you desperately need, bring your mandible forward, and widen your midface so your eyes don't look as big.

It would also help with the orbital asymmetry, there's cases and one on this forum where someone had uneven orbitals, and the device PUSHED it up to where it was leveled.

ALSO it will improve canthal tilt as well, so it's not as NEGATIVE

By the end of expansion if your smile is still canted or you have a "gummy smile" they can use tads to fully correct this

I'm mindlessly typing but know I'm right, shit formatting but very valuable information for you. Start working you need 5-7k (ask ur parents to pitch in). Pls don't waste your time softmaxxing, you don't look that UGLY as is, and the softmaxxing would only gradually improve your looks.

Alr this is some really good advice thanks it means a lot but I tried asking for a palatal expansion before and all they told me was tha5 m6 palate is already wide and it wouldn’t help me out with anything but I’m definitely getting a septoplasty soon because my nose divination is fucking horrible and because the dentist and orthos are looking at it at a different pov but they also told me that i
It’s not gonna do much since i alr have a wide palate and i dont need s9mething that i dont need but i agree with u I do have a slight gummy smile too

 

[justine]

I feel like your main issues are asymmetries and the obvious short face syndrome
I can also tell your breathing is shit by how deviated your nose is
Your maxilla is CANTED meaning its crooked like so:
View attachment 4965537
So your orbital sits at different heights, crooked nose, lips, etc...

I really don't think you're going to do orthodontics or anything outside of buying Based hair clay and Cerave off amazon

BUT the 0.001% chance you do and because I'm feeling generous.

I would consult a MARPE provider and get them to position the device at a TILT, so we can try and improve the CANT. This would improve symmetry, give you some CW which you desperately need, bring your mandible forward, and widen your midface so your eyes don't look as big.

It would also help with the orbital asymmetry, there's cases and one on this forum where someone had uneven orbitals, and the device PUSHED it up to where it was leveled.

ALSO it will improve canthal tilt as well, so it's not as NEGATIVE

By the end of expansion if your smile is still canted or you have a "gummy smile" they can use tads to fully correct this

I'm mindlessly typing but know I'm right, shit formatting but very valuable information for you. Start working you need 5-7k (ask ur parents to pitch in). Pls don't waste your time softmaxxing, you don't look that UGLY as is, and the softmaxxing at this point wouldn't do ENTIRELY much, but it could probably improve your confidence since you feel better

Also I’m confused on the softmaxxing part as in I’m pretty lost and don’t know what To do for my skin I’ve been dealing with this issue for a long time and it’s annoying I have a good skin care routine and shit but like my skin is fucked it’s bumpy and I have acne hear in the mostly on my forehead jawline area and I do have a good diet
For my coloring I have no idea wha5 to do I’m gonna buy s9me whiting strips but I don’t know which Brand or quality to buy
For the tan part I’m gonna get this beauty by earth tanner a fair to medium tint or shade I think that’s the way to go and I’ll get some contacts for my eyes maybe s9mthing like hazel eye color

 

[justine]

I feel like your main issues are asymmetries and the obvious short face syndrome
I can also tell your breathing is shit by how deviated your nose is
Your maxilla is CANTED meaning its crooked like so:
View attachment 4965537
So your orbital sits at different heights, crooked nose, lips, etc...

I really don't think you're going to do orthodontics or anything outside of buying Based hair clay and Cerave off amazon

BUT the 0.001% chance you do and because I'm feeling generous.

I would consult a MARPE provider and get them to position the device at a TILT, so we can try and improve the CANT. This would improve symmetry, give you some CW which you desperately need, bring your mandible forward, and widen your midface so your eyes don't look as big.

It would also help with the orbital asymmetry, there's cases and one on this forum where someone had uneven orbitals, and the device PUSHED it up to where it was leveled.

ALSO it will improve canthal tilt as well, so it's not as NEGATIVE

By the end of expansion if your smile is still canted or you have a "gummy smile" they can use tads to fully correct this

I'm mindlessly typing but know I'm right, shit formatting but very valuable information for you. Start working you need 5-7k (ask ur parents to pitch in). Pls don't waste your time softmaxxing, you don't look that UGLY as is, and the softmaxxing at this point wouldn't do ENTIRELY much, but it could probably improve your confidence since you feel better

Im also still kinda young like im 16 and 4 months old now

 

[justine]

Bump

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Alr this is some really good advice thanks it means a lot but I tried asking for a palatal expansion before and all they told me was tha5 m6 palate is already wide and it wouldn’t help me out with anything but I’m definitely getting a septoplasty soon because my nose divination is fucking horrible and because the dentist and orthos are looking at it at a different pov but they also told me that i
It’s not gonna do much since i alr have a wide palate and i dont need s9mething that i dont need but i agree with u I do have a slight gummy smile too View attachment 4965604

Fixing the gummy smile with TADs would probably fix the lip/jaw asymmetry

Also you are narrow your lower teeth are lingually tipped in, you should consult someone else. I can help you find a provider

Im also still kinda young like im 16 and 4 months old now

Yeah ig you could always wait

Septoplasty would probably help a lot

Are you experiencing any symptoms like breathing issues, sleep apnea, TMJ, etc..?

 

[NeedUndereyeSupport]

Ive spoken to you already but surgery is your only way out

Look at my newest post , lmk what u think

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Also I’m confused on the softmaxxing part as in I’m pretty lost and don’t know what To do for my skin I’ve been dealing with this issue for a long time and it’s annoying I have a good skin care routine and shit but like my skin is fucked it’s bumpy and I have acne hear in the mostly on my forehead jawline area and I do have a good diet
For my coloring I have no idea wha5 to do I’m gonna buy s9me whiting strips but I don’t know which Brand or quality to buy
For the tan part I’m gonna get this beauty by earth tanner a fair to medium tint or shade I think that’s the way to go and I’ll get some contacts for my eyes maybe s9mthing like hazel eye color

Look around on the forum for products you should buy

The forehead acne is probably cuz ur hair covers it

I'm not rlly interested in softmaxxing stuff enough to splurge but you have time little nigga

 

[justine]

Fixing the gummy smile with TADs would probably fix the lip/jaw asymmetry

Also you are narrow your lower teeth are lingually tipped in, you should consult someone else. I can help you find a provider


Yeah ig you could always wait

Septoplasty would probably help a lot

Are you experiencing any symptoms like breathing issues, sleep apnea, TMJ, etc..?

Nah no symptoms like that but when I do get sick I can’t breathe at all form my nose or when I have allergies for example I got spring allergies and now because of the deviation and shit it’s kinda hard to breathe from my nose I have to sort of flare my nostrils but that makes me look worse I never really had sleep apnea but s9metimes when I was yo7nger I would have to bmouth breathe because I just couldn’t breathe from my nose thanks to my parents they didn5 really help my situation and let me sleep horribly while snore away my fuck8ng life

 

[justine]

Look around on the forum for products you should buy

The forehead acne is probably cuz ur hair covers it

I'm not rlly interested in softmaxxing stuff enough to splurge but you have time little nigga

I got the based cleanser and mostiuerzer I also got ordinary stuff like glycolic acid and hylaronic acid and naicimade but they didn’t really do much

 

[justine]

Look around on the forum for products you should buy

The forehead acne is probably cuz ur hair covers it

I'm not rlly interested in softmaxxing stuff enough to splurge but you have time little nigga

Also since I know I have deathtier rounded orbitals I wanna shape my eyebrows but I don’t know how there just really bad

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

I got the based cleanser and mostiuerzer I also got ordinary stuff like glycolic acid and hylaronic acid and naicimade but they didn’t really do much

Lance is a bitch I bought so many of their products and they were all terrible im ngl

I'm not too knowledgeable about products but I use Anua its some korean shit and it works well for my skin type

Also how tall are you?

 

[justine]

Lance is a bitch I bought so many of their products and they were all terrible im ngl

I'm not too knowledgeable about products but I use Anua its some korean shit and it works well for my skin type

Also how tall are you?

Lance is a bitch I bought so many of their products and they were all terrible im ngl

I'm not too knowledgeable about products but I use Anua its some korean shit and it works well for my skin type

Also how tall are you?

Height won’t matter I’m like 5 foot 7 but I do wear shoe lifts everyday and I’ve seen my posture affect me a lot and my neck is bad my whole posture is bad in general also like I might have minor scolisis I could orig reach 5 foot 8.5 maybe or 5 foot 9 I’m like 5 foot 6.5 or 5 foot 7 s9mehwoer there I’m short asf unfortunately but my growth plates are probably starting to close since like I got hair on my chest now and neck and shit and voice isn’t too deep but idk

 

[justine]

Lance is a bitch I bought so many of their products and they were all terrible im ngl

I'm not too knowledgeable about products but I use Anua its some korean shit and it works well for my skin type

Also how tall are you?

Yea based is a scam literally wha5 Jordan Barrett said a few years ago
Some 9f the products like hair clay is good but evrything else is ass

 

[justine]

Lance is a bitch I bought so many of their products and they were all terrible im ngl

I'm not too knowledgeable about products but I use Anua its some korean shit and it works well for my skin type

Also how tall are you?

Bro I’m ngl i actually looks os fucking hideous in these photos I have to try to get this marpe thing earlier u told me about my eye area is so shitty and I hate my rp7nded eyebrows do u know how o could make them more aesthetic like chicos or flat and straight i tried shaping them but that never really works anyways dude in that last photo my eyes look cross eyes and I look dumb as fuck and my canthal tilt is negat8ve or neutral idk I jus5 look so dumb

 

[justine]

Bump