Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).
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Is there a way for both?
Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).
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Traditionalist family structure, minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society. You could argue that this was practiced under the third reich, and it lead to one of the most prosperous societies to ever have existed until it got brought to its knees under the weight of international jewry
The more I read the bible myself and compare notes with uncucked people the more I believe the bible was never meant to be as pacifist as the (((church))) claims it. Not only is the notion of killing being unnatural stupid, but also dishonest to claim when the bible has righteous killings. Doesn't the bible warn against pagan practices though?
I'm not Christian myself, so I don't interpret everything the bible says as holy. That said, I would much rather live in a wholly christian society than I would in a wholly pagan one. It is true as you say that the church has been subverted by Jews to the point where whatever the bible preaches has been watered down to irrelevancy. I don't personally agree with all christian ethics and consider it flawed in certain aspects, but on things like women, gays, Jews and monogamous family structures, Christianity is fairly spot on.
I dont really claim christian, but as I read the bible verses and compare with other versions, because one word can change entire meanings, I find its right about so many things. I care about truth, while ((Christians)) interpret verses into their idealized world. I dont hold it above other ways of life because I'm still trying to understand everything. Thats why I asked you about paganism.
Yeah, my view on it is that paganism is good to the extent that it takes care of the worldly, while christianity is good to the extent that it takes care of the outworldly, quells existential dread and gives people a higher purpose. Whether the afterlife, as described by the bible, is actually true or not is a separate question.
Lyrical themes:Gore,
Paedophilia, Bestiality, Scat, Cannibalism, Rape
I would say that's generally correct. The NSDAP didn't by any means hold christianity in holy regards, but saw it as a vehicle for national unity, as you say. Hitler was also a politician and therefore had to bargain with his largely christian conservative base, and so that put some restraint on his actual view of Christianity. He did approve of Rosenberg's work though, so it's likely that he desired a long term transition away from Christianity, while also retaining some of its core elements, integrating it into a larger Germanic framework. I wouldn't necessarily say any of the people within Hitler's cabinet viewed Christianity with contempt. As for your point about Himmler, let's not forget that he was also a great admirer of the Christian order the Teutonic Knights and modeled the SS on it. The supposed hostility that the head of the NSDAP had for Christianity has largely been exaggerated in a deliberate propaganda campaign to turn what would've otherwise been sympathetic traditionalist Christians away from dangerous ideas
Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
Must have been this one:
Screwed by Various Artists
Screwed, a Various Artists Compilation. Released in 1996 on Amphetamine Reptile (catalog no. AmRep 043; CD). Genres: Noise Rock.rateyourmusic.com
Makes sense honestly. That whole crowd was very much emblematic of standard Murgurn tits and beer Rock n Roll typical of the non-religious but spiritually evangelical in the late part of the 20th century. Implicitly Zionist and philosemitic, the weight of the US military-industrial complex and the sacralized free market hangs over the scene (Hazelmeyer was in the Marines, Melvins are libertarians, etc.) I wouldn't expect anyone who played in one of those bands to have any reservations about either porn or Juden.
It's an honest representation of the Midwestern US though tbh. Sounds like the atmosphere in that part of the country like nothing else and was fittingly created by very typical representatives of the region (usually either the middling punk rocker turned cosmopolitan soy cuck lawyer/humanities grad student/librarian or the Middle American garage band libertarian - latter is still preferable to the former, all things considered).
Still need to read many more religious texts. I'll eventually read the Koran, probably more about the gnostics too.
As to the ookpillers at .co, they're definitely all Sunni. I've never seen a Shi'ite, an Alawite, etc. From my limited encounters with Islam as a whole though, it seems rather like an expressly quasi-political ideology and effectively an instrument of Arabization. Every predominantly Muslim country has been Arabized to a degree - Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia. Guenon took an Arabic name after he converted to Sufism, Arabic is considered the sole legitimate language of the prophecy, hierarchies within Islamist organizations with other populations usually serving as cannon fodder e.g. Uyghers. It doesn't strike me as possible to truly develop (even preserve) one's own culture and introduce Islam - or even major elements of it - at the same time.
As to the question of keeping sympathies with independent nations, that's another matter. I am enthusiastic about Iran and Syria (the former is fairly unique in the Middle East in having a good deal of religious pluralism and tolerance), but I'm also wary of applying too much significance to the Judenfrage. Jews are a people to whom most ascribe far too little significance, but to whom the Right is often guilty of applying too much. Don't lose sight of the fact that many others are enemies just as craven and rapacious, only less competent. This is why I'm usually skeptical of "based anti-Zionist alliances" and the like. I ultimately don't trust Sunni ookpillers or the broader political systems they represent either.
No question. The Third Reich is a topic one definitely has to dig into deeply to get the truth. Few things are enveloped by a haze of obfuscation quite like the events and ideas surrounding WWII.
I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
I don't agree with all of Nietzsche's writing or everything I've read of him, but he's certainly an intelligent man with worthwhile perspectives to consider
It doesn't even have a melody kek
