I am pro-choice but from a scientific perspective life does begin at conception

[FailedNormieManlet]

When the sperm fertilises the egg and forums a zygote, that is technically life. We consider single cell's a form of life, but that zygote has it's own unique DNA and thus can be seen as a seperate entity.

Pro choicers argue that because a fetus cannot survive out of it's mother womb, it therefore cannot constitute as life. This is both scientifically and logically incorrect, life is not defined by these parameters, a fetus' natural environment is it's mother womb. Do we say a fish is not alive because it cannot survive on land? Of course not, for that is not the natural environment for the fish, the same applies to the fetus.

Lets go further and say, say the fetus is not human - then what is it? A clump of cells? "A clump of cells" with unique DNA = life, cells = organism/life.

Life does begin at conception, this is a scientific fact and I believe that 90% of biologists do believe in that, where things get sticky is when personhood begins. I cannot answer that question in all honesty and am not here to answer that. I am simply proving that life does begin at conception and the stupid argument that a fetus isn't a life should stop being used. Liberals are all for "the science" until we get to abortions.

I have seen many liberals also argue that because the fetus relies upon the mother and cannot indepedently eat food it doesn't count - that's isn't how life works. The fetus is still able to process the nutrient and metabolise them, and the need for nutrients is another example of how it is actually life.

Pro choicers need to stop screaming and start looking at the science.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

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@RichmondBread @Harold O'brien @currylightskin @inferiorpispot234 @Xangsane

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Leftists only look at the science when it validates their claims and ignore it when it's not convenient for them. Science has become politicized, unfortunately.

 

[hebbewem]

Liberals care about personhood and they probably use life and personhood to mean the same thing when its not the same thing

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Leftists only look at the science when it validates their claims and ignore it when it's not convenient for them. Science has become politicized, unfortunately.

Yeah unfortunately that's the case, I remember reading that a trans athlete could have 10 times the level of testosterone in their blood as a female athlete (some crazy number like that, but it was for sure higher than female athlete) and they claimed that was fair lol.

Liberals care about personhood and they probably use life and personhood to mean the same thing when its not the same thing

They should say personhood then. If they can name 500 different genders, I'm sure distinguishing betwen life and personhood shouldn't be so hard

 

[LooksOrDeath]

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@RichmondBread @Harold O'brien @currylightskin @inferiorpispot234 @Xangsane

all of these people give far left pro choice vibes

 

[Pendejo]

Why did you ignore me?

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Why did you ignore me?

I will tag you next time

all of these people give far left pro choice vibes

richmond is a christian isn't he? I just tagged these guys because they normally engage with my posts jfl

 

[LooksOrDeath]

richmond is a christian isn't he? I just tagged these guys because they normally engage with my posts jfl

harold o brien and xangsane prolly support pro choice for any reason

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

The only reasonable argument I can see for pro choice from a moral perspective is a lesser evil one

Tht being said if I got a girl pregnant I’d 100% want her to abort it JFL- can’t have some kid ruining my life. I’d just admit that it was cos I was a selfish person flushing my kid down the toilet though JFL, I wouldn’t go to some blue haired protest dressed like a cuck like Muh body Muh choice CAGE

 

[Amnesia]

Unironically kys if you don't acknowledge it's a life at conception

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

harold o brien and xangsane prolly support pro choice for any reason

I tagged harold and xangsane so they'd argue tbh, I wanted to hear their perspctive

 

[Pendejo]

I will tag you next time

No, I mean, my reply on the other thread.
But yeah tag me.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

The only reasonable argument I can see for pro choice from a moral perspective is a lesser evil one

Tht being said if I got a girl pregnant I’d 100% want her to abort it JFL- can’t have some kid ruining my life. I’d just admit that it was cos I was a selfish person flushing my kid down the toilet though JFL, I wouldn’t go to some blue haired protest dressed like a cuck like Muh body Muh choice CAGE

I also actually support abortion, but do think it is life at conception - that is scientific fact. I'd rather everyone acknowledge they're doing a "bad" thing rather than lie and say it's not life

 

[LooksOrDeath]

No, I mean, my reply on the other thread.
But yeah tag me.

what was your prev username i think you had one

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I tagged harold and xangsane so they'd argue tbh, I wanted to hear their perspctive

I'll top up that
@Detona

 

[Pendejo]

what was your prev username i think you had one

I didn’t.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Yeah unfortunately that's the case, I remember reading that a trans athlete could have 10 times the level of testosterone in their blood as a female athlete (some crazy number like that, but it was for sure higher than female athlete) and they claimed that was fair lol.

They should say personhood then. If they can name 500 different genders, I'm sure distinguishing betwen life and personhood shouldn't be so hard

Let’s be real right wing people are just as bad when it comes to flat out ignoring science on other political issues- like don’t 40% of Americans still genuinely think Goe made the earth in 6 days or some shit and Muh dinosaurs and evolution is a leftist Jewish conspiracy

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I also actually support abortion, but do think it is life at conception - that is scientific fact. I'd rather everyone acknowledge they're doing a "bad" thing rather than lie and say it's not life

It’s 100% life that’s a fact

Whether abortion is right or wrong is another questions that’s more caveated and based on subjective morality but life beginning at conception is a 100% fact

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Let’s be real right wing people are just as bad when it comes to flat out ignoring science on other political issues- like don’t 40% of Americans still genuinely think Goe made the earth in 6 days or some shit and Muh dinosaurs and evolution is a leftist Jewish conspiracy

For sure a lot of mutts don't believe in evolution too jfl

It’s 100% life that’s a fact

Whether abortion is right or wrong is another questions that’s more caveated and based on subjective morality but life beginning at conception is a 100% fact

I agree, I am pro-choice and do think this pro-life v pro-choice thing is a matter of morals. But pro-choicers stop using lies/scientifically incorrect statements like "it's not life". It is life. Whether it's a life worth saving is something science cannot answer

 

[Harold O'brien]

Didnt read but I agree with the title

Life at conception is fact

 

[Harold O'brien]

But life isn't a real thing anyway - it's made up. You see this when looking at viruses where they are right in the boundary of the definition. It's just arbitrary criteria to allow us to group things and nothing more

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

But life isn't a real thing anyway - it's made up. You see this when looking at viruses where they are right in the boundary of the definition. It's just arbitrary criteria to allow us to group things and nothing more

We could argue that everything is like that though, but under our current defintions of life, a fetus would fit as "living"

 

[Harold O'brien]

We could argue that everything is like that though, but under our current defintions of life, a fetus would fit as "living"

Legit, everything is made up. But people don't see this

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Man, idec about muh abortion.
I Just want to regulate whore behaviour
There should be a body count limit

 

[Afrikancel]

When the sperm fertilises the egg and forums a zygote, that is technically life. We consider single cell's a form of life, but that zygote has it's own unique DNA and thus can be seen as a seperate entity.

Pro choicers argue that because a fetus cannot survive out of it's mother womb, it therefore cannot constitute as life. This is both scientifically and logically incorrect, life is not defined by these parameters, a fetus' natural environment is it's mother womb. Do we say a fish is not alive because it cannot survive on land? Of course not, for that is not the natural environment for the fish, the same applies to the fetus.

Lets go further and say, say the fetus is not human - then what is it? A clump of cells? "A clump of cells" with unique DNA = life, cells = organism/life.

Life does begin at conception, this is a scientific fact and I believe that 90% of biologists do believe in that, where things get sticky is when personhood begins. I cannot answer that question in all honesty and am not here to answer that. I am simply proving that life does begin at conception and the stupid argument that a fetus isn't a life should stop being used. Liberals are all for "the science" until we get to abortions.

I have seen many liberals also argue that because the fetus relies upon the mother and cannot indepedently eat food it doesn't count - that's isn't how life works. The fetus is still able to process the nutrient and metabolise them, and the need for nutrients is another example of how it is actually life.

Pro choicers need to stop screaming and start looking at the science.

Interesting points bro. I learned something new

 

[Vermilioncore]

Women should not be able to have a choice. Only choice is either my cock or the grave

 

[Detona]

Native Americans considered inanimate objects to be lifeforms, and valued plant life higher than animal life. They considered it a great sin to uproot plant life.

This prevented Native Americans from using things like ploughs. Even to this day, many Native American tribes shun industrial agriculture even though it could make them some money and bring them out of poverty. But because of a stupid religious belief about the "sanctity" of plant life, Native Americans pay a heavy real-world toll.

Abortion is a similar handicap for Christians. Christians get caught up in symbolic debates about the meaning of mere words like "life" and "person", ignoring that the majority of abortions are performed on black and Hispanic prostitutes, followed by white drug addicts. Most Ameritards are too detatched from reality to notice this, even though it's right there under their nose.

Christians are thus the Native Americans of the 21st century, making foolish and impractical decisions based on a mistaken sense of moral righteousness that will do nothing to improve their chances of an afterlife, and everything to ruin their country in the current life.

This is why I'm against freedom of speech. Human speech, on a mass level, is virtual reality. Most people just aren't suited to handle the real world, and rather than using language as a tool to decipher our complex world, they will use it as a battleground over symbolic abstract concepts like "the meaning of life" and "is abortion murder". None of these questions concern anything real or consequential; the real question is "is abortion a good idea." It obviously is, and ending it is a bad idea. No need for any further discussion.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I dont think anyone believes the fetus is not life at all, most pro-abortion niggas simply do not believe fetus can be considered a human with rights. This is more of a philosophical question.

Imo, abortion should be taken with a pragmathic approach. In times of war, ofc abortion should be banned because it can reduce population. In countries like Japan where the population is fastly decending, ofc the government should ban it too. Thats how the Soviet Union dealt with the question, legalizing and banning abortion depending on the country's moment.

 

[Deleted member 3828]

When the sperm fertilises the egg and forums a zygote, that is technically life. We consider single cell's a form of life, but that zygote has it's own unique DNA and thus can be seen as a seperate entity.

Pro choicers argue that because a fetus cannot survive out of it's mother womb, it therefore cannot constitute as life. This is both scientifically and logically incorrect, life is not defined by these parameters, a fetus' natural environment is it's mother womb. Do we say a fish is not alive because it cannot survive on land? Of course not, for that is not the natural environment for the fish, the same applies to the fetus.

Lets go further and say, say the fetus is not human - then what is it? A clump of cells? "A clump of cells" with unique DNA = life, cells = organism/life.

Life does begin at conception, this is a scientific fact and I believe that 90% of biologists do believe in that, where things get sticky is when personhood begins. I cannot answer that question in all honesty and am not here to answer that. I am simply proving that life does begin at conception and the stupid argument that a fetus isn't a life should stop being used. Liberals are all for "the science" until we get to abortions.

I have seen many liberals also argue that because the fetus relies upon the mother and cannot indepedently eat food it doesn't count - that's isn't how life works. The fetus is still able to process the nutrient and metabolise them, and the need for nutrients is another example of how it is actually life.

Pro choicers need to stop screaming and start looking at the science.

what about the fetus' choice, hmm?

 

[Xangsane]

all of these people give far left pro choice vibes

Life does begin at conception

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Unironically kys if you don't acknowledge it's a life at conception

it doesn't it begins when at week 12 lol

 

[Deleted member 16853]

When the sperm fertilises the egg and forums a zygote, that is technically life. We consider single cell's a form of life, but that zygote has it's own unique DNA and thus can be seen as a seperate entity.

Pro choicers argue that because a fetus cannot survive out of it's mother womb, it therefore cannot constitute as life. This is both scientifically and logically incorrect, life is not defined by these parameters, a fetus' natural environment is it's mother womb. Do we say a fish is not alive because it cannot survive on land? Of course not, for that is not the natural environment for the fish, the same applies to the fetus.

Lets go further and say, say the fetus is not human - then what is it? A clump of cells? "A clump of cells" with unique DNA = life, cells = organism/life.

Life does begin at conception, this is a scientific fact and I believe that 90% of biologists do believe in that, where things get sticky is when personhood begins. I cannot answer that question in all honesty and am not here to answer that. I am simply proving that life does begin at conception and the stupid argument that a fetus isn't a life should stop being used. Liberals are all for "the science" until we get to abortions.

I have seen many liberals also argue that because the fetus relies upon the mother and cannot indepedently eat food it doesn't count - that's isn't how life works. The fetus is still able to process the nutrient and metabolise them, and the need for nutrients is another example of how it is actually life.

Pro choicers need to stop screaming and start looking at the science.

Idc what people do either, but I don't like them acting morally superior to me with some "I support women" type shit