i can proof god is real (agnostic and atheist click this!)

[kaistillover]

i didnt duck? i just gave a answer thetre 4 ngas answering me at the same time what u epxect me to do

I expect u to slit ur wrist and send ur fucking blood to ur grandma

tell her ur a cuck and die

 

[sync!]

ALR 3rd world pajeet who's typing from his moms cracked Samsung

You said I gave no proof, but I did sand nigger

For 21:32, the earliest Muslim scholars like Al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir never said it meant the ozone layer or magnetic field. That's a modern interpretation after science discovered those things.

For 57:25, the Arabic phrase "sent down" doesn't always mean something literally came from the sky. The Quran also says Allah "sent down" cattle (39:6), but cows obviously weren't dropped from heaven. So "sent down iron" isn't proof the Quran predicted where iron came from.

The claim is a scientific miracle, so the proof is on you to show the verse clearly meant that before modern science (real religion)

do we listen to scholar or the actual quran?

 

[sync!]

I expect u to slit ur wrist and send ur fucking blood to ur grandma

tell her ur a cuck and die

fuck off pussy i just debunked ur entire belives in 1 thread and now ur crying like a slut

 

[Sage]

we dont pray to muhammed tho do we? we pray to allah and none claims his all knowing either do we belive that. ur just giving pure missinfo

I didn't say you pray to him. I said you claim he's the perfect moral example for all time. if he's timeless, then "it was normal back then" doesn't excuse marrying a child. normal ≠ moral. slavery was normal too.

 

[yushmaxx]

d

define a human

A member of the species “Homo Sapien” though early human species existed in the past but slowly died out.


Dude stop beating around the bush and redirecting, why do ALL Abrahamic religions say we came from Adam and Eve when that is false?

 

[Sage]

d

define a human

homosapien

 

[xye]

you gave me 4 which had long text and i debunked 3 and didnt have enough energy to read the last

Not a valid debunk.

I understand that it may be very difficult to abandon an ideology you have so long defended, but sometimes you just have to accept the truth, no matter how hard to swallow it is. Kinda like when you first discovered the blackpill two years ago and you wanted to cope

For the record you claim this as the religion of peace
when there have been more islamic wars than non-islamic religious wars

Surah 68:4
And indeed, you [Muhammad] are of a great moral character

And yet he fucked a 9 year old.

 

[kaistillover]

fuck off pussy i just debunked ur entire belives in 1 thread and now ur crying like a slut

I’m not crying for shit I’ll make a thread dw

I’ll debunk that sad little 1inch penis u got fucking pussy

die

 

[sync!]

I didn't say you pray to him. I said you claim he's the perfect moral example for all time. if he's timeless, then "it was normal back then" doesn't excuse marrying a child. normal ≠ moral. slavery was normal too.

WHO CLAIMED HE WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE?? also when did we claim he was timeless? we only belive in allah muhammed is jsut his messenger

 

[vexd]

do we listen to scholar or the actual quran?

listen sand jeet

we listen to the actual Quran. But if the Quran clearly meant the ozone layer or exploding stars, why didn't the people who knew Arabic best understand it that way? The scholars aren't above the Quran they just show how it was understood before modern science. Reading modern science into old verses after the discoveries is called a reinterpretation.

 

[sync!]

A member of the species “Homo Sapien” though early human species existed in the past but slowly died out.


Dude stop beating around the bush and redirecting, why do ALL Abrahamic religions say we came from Adam and Eve when that is false?

that what science claim is human, theyre just monkeys

 

[Sage]

WHO CLAIMED HE WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE?? also when did we claim he was timeless? we only belive in allah muhammed is jsut his messenger

Quran 33:21 literally says he's a good example. and you follow his sunnah. so yeah, you do claim he's an example. if he's an example for all time, then "it was normal back then" doesn't work.

 

[yushmaxx]

that what science claim is human, theyre just monkeys

You literally dont know what you are talking about. Do you agree with the science, that says humans evolved from a common ancestor with monkeys, or not?

Its a Yes or No question, you keep dodging it.

 

[sync!]

Not a valid debunk.

I understand that it may be very difficult to abandon an ideology you have so long defended, but sometimes you just have to accept the truth, no matter how hard to swallow it is. Kinda like when you first discovered the blackpill two years ago and you wanted to cope

For the record you claim this as the religion of peace
when there have been more islamic wars than non-islamic religious wars

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Surah 68:4
And indeed, you [Muhammad] are of a great moral character

And yet he fucked a 9 year old.

Quran 22:39–40​

right to defend yourself (they invaded us)
yes it true we took some countries but we were just spreading the world of islam and we didnt KILL (only fighters)
how are we being violent? if were helping people find the truth.

 

[12aff]

I wonder what thread you're talking about

 

[TheWigger]

many people disrespect god but now im gonna proof that islam is the truth aswell as some proof of god existence.

First of all this thread was posted by a 15 year old who only read the quran once a scholar would give 20x clearer evidence.

1. Quran 21:30
"And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Quran predicting and knowing that humans were made out of waters 1400 YEARS AGO.
how could a book 1400 years ago predict such a prediction? there were no sceince etc this claim was later claimed to be true in the 1900s.

2
Quran 51:47
knew about the universe expanding
"And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander."
how did they know such things 1400s years ago?

i can go on and on

Quran 21:32
predicting modern atmosphere

Quran 57:25
knew about planet having stars
Quran 39:21
water cycle prediction


mind you these are the only things that came to my mind, there prolly hundred more proofs and evidence way clearer than this. which i dont know about. if your serious and wanna know more about this go and read ibn tamiyyah books

have any question about islam and quran? ask me.

*sees quran quotes knew this was about to be inbred iq slop

 

[sync!]

You literally dont know what you are talking about. Do you agree with the science, that says humans evolved from a common ancestor with monkeys, or not?

Its a Yes or No question, you keep dodging it.

i dont

 

[yushmaxx]

A Iranian kid goes out and tells the others, “Allah is the one true god”;

A German kid goes out and tells the others “Jesus is the one true god”;

A Israeli kid goes out and tells the others
“Hashem is the one true god”

You didnt choose your religion. There was no choice. Religious people always say that “god is giving you a choice”, but the choice was never fair.

Lets say the Christian god is the one true god, if you are born in Vatican City, your playing life on easy mode, 99% chance you go to heaven.

However, if you are born in Afganistan, theres a 0% chance you to to heaven, you are playing life on ultra-nightmare mode.

Basically, you going to heaven or not is already determined when you are born.

Life isnt fair, gods system isnt fair.

 

[yushmaxx]

i dont

You dont believe in science?

 

[sync!]

Quran 33:21 literally says he's a good example. and you follow his sunnah. so yeah, you do claim he's an example. if he's an example for all time, then "it was normal back then" doesn't work.

ok so following someone = theyre perfect is your point? which is false
also its not said YOU MUST do sunnah it just recommended

 

[sync!]

You dont believe in science?

i belive in science just not in some sceince claims

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

bro you can see stars from earth lol you dont need quran to know about stars

 

[sync!]

A Iranian kid goes out and tells the others, “Allah is the one true god”;

A German kid goes out and tells the others “Jesus is the one true god”;

A Israeli kid goes out and tells the others
“Hashem is the one true god”

You didnt choose your religion. There was no choice. Religious people always say that “god is giving you a choice”, but the choice was never fair.

Lets say the Christian god is the one true god, if you are born in Vatican City, your playing life on easy mode, 99% chance you go to heaven.

However, if you are born in Afganistan, theres a 0% chance you to to heaven, you are playing life on ultra-nightmare mode.

Basically, you going to heaven or not is already determined when you are born.

Life isnt fair, gods system isnt fair.

SEE NOW THIS IS A EASY DEBUNK

1. only god can justify what wrong and right and he make sure human get justified equally at the day of judgement and no you dont go to hell if you didnt know about islam!! (that what makes it the real religion)

 

[sync!]

bro you can see stars from earth lol you dont need quran to know about stars

not what i said btw, true braindead not reading

 

[yushmaxx]

i belive in science just not in some sceince claims

Correction: “I dont believe in the science that goes against my fairytale book because im a low IQ nigger who hasnt grown up from what my parents spoonfed me growing up”

 

[moses12]

and you debunked 0 of my claims...

didn't Mohamed sleep with 30 black men in the desert?

 

[Sage]

ok so following someone = theyre perfect is your point? which is false
also its not said YOU MUST do sunnah it just recommended

exactly. you guys literally follow how he ate, slept, married, and even went to the bathroom because he's supposedly a role model. you say it's "better" to follow his example. so if he's a role model, then his actions matter. and if his actions matter, then marrying a child is part of that example. you can't say "follow his example, it's better" and then say "but don't judge that one thing, it was normal back then."
and if sunnah is just recommended, then why do you get so defensive when I bring it up?

 

[sync!]

didn't Mohamed sleep with 30 black men in the desert?

cant you read how i debunked that already?

 

[yushmaxx]

SEE NOW THIS IS A EASY DEBUNK

1. only god can justify what wrong and right and he make sure human get justified equally at the day of judgement and no you dont go to hell if you didnt know about islam!! (that what makes it the real religion)

That isnt the claim of this post.
It isnt an argument against god.

All I am saying is that your religion is determined ONLY by your parents and where you are born.

You did not find allah, you were just born into him.

 

[sync!]

exactly. you guys literally follow how he ate, slept, married, and even went to the bathroom because he's supposedly a role model. you say it's "better" to follow his example. so if he's a role model, then his actions matter. and if his actions matter, then marrying a child is part of that example. you can't say "follow his example, it's better" and then say "but don't judge that one thing, it was normal back then."
and if sunnah is just recommended, then why do you get so defensive when I bring it up?

many musli m (such as shias) dont belive and follow sunnah btw

also read what i said above again your bringing the same point over and over again

 

[blanek]

Quran predicting and knowing that humans were made out of waters 1400 YEARS AGO.

yea sononion waters are literally coming out of us everyday thats not that deep

and the quran literally says about talking ants and semen from the ribs while claiming to be a scientific book where nothing can be questioned or metaphorically interpreted

jfl + dnr

 

[subhumam_5]

How is that factual proof?

It just shows they had some scientific knowledge, but how could that possibly be proof for gods existence?

 

[sync!]

That isnt the claim of this post.
It isnt an argument against god.

All I am saying is that your religion is determined ONLY by your parents and where you are born.

You did not find allah, you were just born into him.

Ok? what? than your point isnt relevant to our conversation our?

 

[yushmaxx]

@sync! can we just go back to how you dont believe in evolution? What ACTUAL evidence do you have that its false?

 

[sync!]

yea sononion waters are literally coming out of us everyday thats not that deep

and the quran literally says about talking ants and semen from the ribs while claiming to be a scientific book where nothing can be questioned or metaphorically interpreted

jfl + dnr

semen from ribd was debunked
and show me talking ants

 

[yushmaxx]

Ok? what? than your point isnt relevant to our conversation our?

You didnt find allah, you were forced into it either by your parents and where you were born.

If you were born in Israel you would be Jewish and you would never be muslim.

 

[sync!]

@sync! can we just go back to how you dont believe in evolution? What ACTUAL evidence do you have that its false?

this is retarded how ima suppose to prove that? and quran is my proof already if quran is the truth (which there is proof for) than everything in it is the truth.

 

[Sage]

many musli m (such as shias) dont belive and follow sunnah btw

also read what i said above again your bringing the same point over and over again

you're not shia though. and even if you were, shia is objectively even more false by your own standards. you literally think they're misguided. so why are you using them as a shield? we're talking about what YOU believe, not what shias believe.

and I keep bringing the same point because you keep dodging it. if sunnah is just recommended, stop defending it so hard and move on

 

[sync!]

You didnt find allah, you were forced into it either by your parents and where you were born.

If you were born in Israel you would be Jewish and you would never be muslim.

i would be muslim if i saw this beautiful thread

 

[sync!]

you're not shia though. and even if you were, shia is objectively even more false by your own standards. you literally think they're misguided. so why are you using them as a shield? we're talking about what YOU believe, not what shias believe.

and I keep bringing the same point because you keep dodging it. if sunnah is just recommended, stop defending it so hard and move on

SUNNAH IS RECOMMENDED TO FOLLOW YES
DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT? NO
DOES EVERYTHING IN IT IS RIGHT? NO

SUNNAH = WHAT THE PROPHET DID
DID EVERYTHING HE DO IS RIGHT? NO
DO WE FOLLOW HIM? NO WE ONLY FOLLOW ALLAH HE WAS JUST HIS MESSENGER!!

 

[ghoulmania]

exactly. you guys literally follow how he ate, slept, married, and even went to the bathroom because he's supposedly a role model. you say it's "better" to follow his example. so if he's a role model, then his actions matter. and if his actions matter, then marrying a child is part of that example. you can't say "follow his example, it's better" and then say "but don't judge that one thing, it was normal back then."
and if sunnah is just recommended, then why do you get so defensive when I bring it up?

most of his marriages were for strategic and societal reasons not a deranged way, anti-islamic apologetics just skip 20 years of prophethood and focus on the 2 things and mass spread it like its some big refutation and now islam is all wrong and evil and has to be nuked out of this world because we cant accept how a prophet lived years before some congressmen in the 1900s decided to make laws for people who have mental illness and diddle kids and apply it to someone who doesnt even fit the criteria for being one

 

[ghoulmania]

oh oh bro!!! adult breastfeeding camel urine!!! semen clothes!!! marriage ahahaha!!! islam is so over guys

 

[Sage]

SUNNAH IS RECOMMENDED TO FOLLOW YES
DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT? NO
DOES EVERYTHING IN IT IS RIGHT? NO

SUNNAH = WHAT THE PROPHET DID
DID EVERYTHING HE DO IS RIGHT? NO
DO WE FOLLOW HIM? NO WE ONLY FOLLOW ALLAH HE WAS JUST HIS MESSENGER!!

so we agree he wasn't perfect and sunnah is optional
where's the proof islam is true? your science verses are vague, your prophet wasn't perfect. the quran has errors.

so what's the actual evidence? all you did was defend a child marriage

 

[miserycel]

many people disrespect god but now im gonna proof that islam is the truth aswell as some proof of god existence.

First of all this thread was posted by a 15 year old who only read the quran once a scholar would give 20x clearer evidence.

1. Quran 21:30
"And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Quran predicting and knowing that humans were made out of waters 1400 YEARS AGO.
how could a book 1400 years ago predict such a prediction? there were no sceince etc this claim was later claimed to be true in the 1900s.

2
Quran 51:47
knew about the universe expanding
"And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander."
how did they know such things 1400s years ago?

i can go on and on

Quran 21:32
predicting modern atmosphere

Quran 57:25
knew about planet having stars
Quran 39:21
water cycle prediction


mind you these are the only things that came to my mind, there prolly hundred more proofs and evidence way clearer than this. which i dont know about. if your serious and wanna know more about this go and read ibn tamiyyah books

have any question about islam and quran? ask me.

“I can proof god is real”

How can you prove God is real if you don’t even have basic English skills?

 

[yushmaxx]

oh oh bro!!! adult breastfeeding camel urine!!! semen clothes!!! marriage ahahaha!!! islam is so over guys

How did all of humanity originate from two people when ALL human scientific knowledge says otherwise?

 

[sync!]

“I can proof god is real”

How can you prove God is real if you don’t even have basic English skills?

so everyone who knows english says the truth? holy low iq

 

[szolliontaraelis]

Nigga you think people were less intelligent then? if you can some how make people believe in you and organize that amount of people, you have certain bullshitting skills as well. And there are also many scientifically wrong verses in Quran.

And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided.

Most mountains are a result of plate tectonics folding, and thats what causes the earthquakes. All it takes one false statement.

God or a higher dimensional power may be real, but the religions most definitely are not.

 

[ghoulmania]

You didnt find allah, you were forced into it either by your parents and where you were born.

If you were born in Israel you would be Jewish and you would never be muslim.

But to a believer it would mean God chose him to be muslim because he created him and gave him his parents so we're looking at 2 sides of the same coin

 

[Jason5000]

I believe in Zeus

 

[Sage]

most of his marriages were for strategic and societal reasons not a deranged way, anti-islamic apologetics just skip 20 years of prophethood and focus on the 2 things and mass spread it like its some big refutation and now islam is all wrong and evil and has to be nuked out of this world because we cant accept how a prophet lived years before some congressmen in the 1900s decided to make laws for people who have mental illness and diddle kids and apply it to someone who doesnt even fit the criteria for being one

strawman nobody said nuke islam. just asking why a prophet married a 9 year old.
"strategic" isnt an answer. alliances don't need marriage. he could've made a pact. back to the main claim, where's the proof god is real? all I've seen is vague verses and excuses