i can proof god is real (agnostic and atheist click this!)

[ghoulmania]

transverse section isn't in the quran. you added that. it says between backbone and ribs. not aligned. ohh so life force now.. so now it's metaphor? can't have it both ways. you added words to make it fit. I didn't ignore it. I said it's not there.

no, that's from scientific views
a literal anatomical feature of the human body, you're being so narrow minded rn

 

[Sage]

no, that's from scientific views
a literal anatomical feature of the human body, you're being so narrow minded rn

scientific views = you're adding modern anatomy to a vague verse. if it was clear, it would've said testicles instead you've been deflecting

 

[ghoulmania]

transverse section isn't in the quran. you added that. it says between backbone and ribs. not aligned. ohh so life force now.. so now it's metaphor? can't have it both ways. you added words to make it fit. I didn't ignore it. I said it's not there.

life force as in semen omg bro come onnnn

 

[Sage]

life force as in semen omg bro come onnnn

so now life force just means semen? so the verse is saying semen comes from between backbone and ribs? that's literally what I've been saying. and that's wrong. semen comes from the testicles, TESTES, BALLS, whatever you wanna call them. you're just going in circles now.
first it was transverse section. then it was life force now life force = semen. you're just admitting the verse is about semen and it's still wrong

 

[ghoulmania]

scientific views = you're adding modern anatomy to a vague verse. if it was clear, it would've said testicles instead you've been deflecting

I'm answering you clearly take my point you just assume it's wrong. And if it's vague won't it encourage seeking knowledge? Or is that an impossibility God will tell you everything and you just watch

 

[zerosmv]

great now lemme marry a 6 year old

 

[InertiaBoy]

"pre-order" youre fucking comparing a child to a product. that's grooming

Yes, and?

 

[Sage]

I'm answering you clearly take my point you just assume it's wrong. And if it's vague won't it encourage seeking knowledge? Or is that an impossibility God will tell you everything and you just watch

"encourage seeking knowledge" so god lied to make us curious? he could've said testicles and we'd still learn. instead he said backbone and ribs. that's not even vague thats just wrong. bad excuse.

 

[ghoulmania]

so now life force just means semen? so the verse is saying semen comes from between backbone and ribs? that's literally what I've been saying. and that's wrong. semen comes from the testicles, TESTES, BALLS, whatever you wanna call them. you're just going in circles now.
first it was transverse section. then it was life force now life force = semen. you're just admitting the verse is about semen and it's still wrong

bro i just said that word for my reply stop cherrypicking no point in being keyboard warriors in 2026
you believe god doesn't exist and islam is false ok cool move on, 70 something thousand words in the quran come analyze them and destroy thousands of years worth of theology lets watch

 

[Sage]

Yes, and?

so you admit it's grooming? I'm done
@Gargantuan
@Gengar’s Ghost
@NumbThePain
@DildoFaggins this guy is a pedo

 

[ghoulmania]

"encourage seeking knowledge" so god lied to make us curious? he could've said testicles and we'd still learn. instead he said backbone and ribs. that's not even vague thats just wrong. bad excuse.

you're making assumptions follow my point about transverse section assume it's right, you're doing mental gymnastics

 

[Sage]

bro i just said that word for my reply stop cherrypicking no point in being keyboard warriors in 2026
you believe god doesn't exist and islam is false ok cool move on, 70 something thousand words in the quran come analyze them and destroy thousands of years worth of theology lets watch

I quoted you. you said life force = semen. that's you admitting it.
"analyze 70k words" I don't need to. found errors in the ones you used. if a book has errors it's not from god.
just say youre tired and deflecting

 

[InertiaBoy]

so you admit it's grooming? I'm done
@Gargantuan
@Gengar’s Ghost
@NumbThePain
@DildoFaggins this guy is a pedo

doesnt even mean you have to fuck them btw

You have no argument so you just repoort me and say HECKIN PEDO OMGGGG

 

[Sage]

you're making assumptions follow my point about transverse section assume it's right, you're doing mental gymnastics

Im quoting the verse. you're adding things. transverse section, life force, scientific views. if it was clear and from god, you wouldn't need to add anything. you're asking me to assume it's right dude, that's not how debate works. you're supposed to prove it.

 

[ghoulmania]

I quoted you. you said life force = semen. that's you admitting it.
"analyze 70k words" I don't need to. found errors in the ones you used. if a book has errors it's not from god.
just say youre tired and deflecting

?
you literally cherrypicked something, got the answer, jumped around, got answered again, cherrypicked a word, I won't do the same this is such a waste of time

 

[Sage]

You have no argument so you just repoort me and say HECKIN PEDO OMGGGG

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" but Muhammad literally did fuck her at 9. so that excuse doesn't even work

I reported you because you're defending pedophilia. not because I have no argument.

if you're mad, don't say pedo shit next time

 

[ghoulmania]

Im quoting the verse. you're adding things. transverse section, life force, scientific views. if it was clear and from god, you wouldn't need to add anything. you're asking me to assume it's right dude, that's not how debate works. you're supposed to prove it.

you presented absolutely nothing of value
just copy paste internet argument, come show me your scientific knowledge habibi

 

[Sage]

?
you literally cherrypicked something, got the answer, jumped around, got answered again, cherrypicked a word, I won't do the same this is such a waste of time

I quoted you. you said life force = semen. that's you, not cherrypicking. you didn't answer. you gave transverse section (that's not in the quran), then life force.

if it's a waste of time, stop replying and own it.

 

[ghoulmania]

@Sage
assuming God has a creator won't that be admitting his existence? answer it

 

[InertiaBoy]

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" but Muhammad literally did fuck her at 9. so that excuse doesn't even work

I dont care, im not a mudslime

I reported you because you're defending pedophilia. not because I have no argument.

But im not? Do i have to quote myself again?

doesnt even mean you have to fuck them btw

 

[Sage]

you presented absolutely nothing of value
just copy paste internet argument, come show me your scientific knowledge habibi

I don't need to be a scientist to know sperm comes from balls, not backbone and ribs. you added transverse and life force. I just read the verse. explain it without adding modern stuff.

 

[ghoulmania]

I quoted you. you said life force = semen. that's you, not cherrypicking. you didn't answer. you gave transverse section (that's not in the quran), then life force.

if it's a waste of time, stop replying and own it.

the context is deduced you just ramble and ignore

 

[chudcell999]

many people disrespect god but now im gonna proof that islam is the truth aswell as some proof of god existence.

First of all this thread was posted by a 15 year old who only read the quran once a scholar would give 20x clearer evidence.

1. Quran 21:30
"And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Quran predicting and knowing that humans were made out of waters 1400 YEARS AGO.
how could a book 1400 years ago predict such a prediction? there were no sceince etc this claim was later claimed to be true in the 1900s.

2
Quran 51:47
knew about the universe expanding
"And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander."
how did they know such things 1400s years ago?

i can go on and on

Quran 21:32
predicting modern atmosphere

Quran 57:25
knew about planet having stars
Quran 39:21
water cycle prediction


mind you these are the only things that came to my mind, there prolly hundred more proofs and evidence way clearer than this. which i dont know about. if your serious and wanna know more about this go and read ibn tamiyyah books

have any question about islam and quran? ask me.

Whatever helps you cope buddy

 

[Sage]

@Sage
assuming God has a creator won't that be admitting his existence? answer it

no. it's pointing out your logic is flawed. if everything needs a creator, god needs one too. if he doesn't, your rule is false. pick one.

I dont care, im not a mudslime

But im not? Do i have to quote myself again?

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" to downplay it. I said he did. you said "I don't care I'm not muslim." so you're defending pedophilia just to argue?? you're quoting yourself like it helps. you're defending it.

 

[ghoulmania]

I don't need to be a scientist to know sperm comes from balls, not backbone and ribs. you added transverse and life force. I just read the verse. explain it without adding modern stuff.

you read it and took the atheist lens and took it as fact, words have meanings and context you took a direct translation and linked it incorrectly

 

[Sage]

the context is deduced you just ramble and ignore

context is deduced" meaning you're adding things. verse says backbone and ribs, definitely not transverse and life-force. if it was clear, scholars wouldn't have 10 interpretations. you're adding stuff. I'm just reading the verse.

 

[ghoulmania]

no. it's pointing out your logic is flawed. if everything needs a creator, god needs one too. if he doesn't, your rule is false. pick one.

How is that my logic when it was your words? Because what you said would be refuted by theological works which conclude God is the ultimate beginning without something to begin it, a creator doesn't have to be created since the creation is only attributed this trait

 

[ghoulmania]

context is deduced" meaning you're adding things. verse says backbone and ribs, definitely not transverse and life-force. if it was clear, scholars wouldn't have 10 interpretations. you're adding stuff. I'm just reading the verse.

You're unable to perform basic critical thinking

 

[Sage]

you read it and took the atheist lens and took it as fact, words have meanings and context you took a direct translation and linked it incorrectly

I read the literal translation. you're adding context, transverse, life force. if reading what it says is "atheist lens" then the verse is wrong. "words have meanings" yes. between backbone and ribs means between backbone and ribs. you're trying to make it mean something else because the literal meaning is wrong

 

[ghoulmania]

I read the literal translation. you're adding context, transverse, life force. if reading what it says is "atheist lens" then the verse is wrong. "words have meanings" yes. between backbone and ribs means between backbone and ribs. you're trying to make it mean something else because the literal meaning is wrong

atheist lens is instantly assuming the verse is wrong without any research as to what it could point to

 

[Sage]

How is that my logic when it was your words? Because what you said would be refuted by theological works which conclude God is the ultimate beginning without something to begin it, a creator doesn't have to be created since the creation is only attributed this trait

You're unable to perform basic critical thinking

"everything needs a creator" except god? rules don't have exceptions just because. "context is deduced" = you're adding things. verse says backbone and ribs. scholars have 10 interpretations because it's unclear. you're adding modern stuff. You're the one lacking critical thinking Muslimtard.

 

[Sage]

atheist lens is instantly assuming the verse is wrong without any research as to what it could point to

I read the verse and checked my biology textbook. sperm comes from the balls, not backbone and ribs. that's called research faggot, something you obviously haven't done in years.

 

[ghoulmania]

"everything needs a creator" except god? rules don't have exceptions just because. "context is deduced" = you're adding things. verse says backbone and ribs. scholars have 10 interpretations because it's unclear. you're adding modern stuff. You're the one lacking critical thinking Muslimtard.

what rule, who made it a rule? you're presenting so many points pick something first. You not believing in god would make anything effort to convince you otherwise is useless, you got the answer now what 10 interpretations now? they will all lead to an answer the quran is a collection of words that no matter what using google translate and websites won't let you reach any conclusion, I'm not a scholar neither are you. We're pointlessly rambling

 

[InertiaBoy]

1. Quran 21:30
"And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Quran predicting and knowing that humans were made out of waters 1400 YEARS AGO.

Humans are not made of water? Wtf are you talking about, you cant prove that

You do know they mean that literally right, as in they took pure water and living things came out of it after god did some magic, not that water is the fundamental base of molecules, or whatever, i dont even know what you mean

2
Quran 51:47
knew about the universe expanding
"And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander."

That says heaven, not universe, and it doesnt say it IS expanding
And there is no proof for that also

Quran 21:32
predicting modern atmosphere

That could easily (and probably does) mean a firmament that is hard

Quran 57:25
knew about planet having stars

That verse has 0 relation to any "astronomical object" not even mentioned once directly or metaphorically

Quran 39:21
water cycle prediction

That verse doesnt talk about the water cycle at all

At best it does but stops at the first step lol



Even if the Quran DID make all these predictions, consider this

Fundamentally what it does and most other religions do is use fear to condition you to stop being self willed and in the ways that make you as weak, as dependent on a 3rd party and as helpless as possible

Does that not sound like something the "elites" would make up as a way to control multiple people at once and suppress any form of revolution? And if we grant that then you also have to know who the elites are, for them to pull this off they need extremely high amounts of intelligence, which means they can also possibly have hidden way more advanced technology (these discoveries aren't even that complex, by the way)


I recommend looking into similar videos

And also if we grant that, then you also have to remember that they write the timeline of history, so any "prediction" could just be first teased in the book and then realized

A lot of people talk about scientists and such being freemasons and actors which im not fully convinced about but its worth thinking about

 

[Sage]

what rule, who made it a rule? you're presenting so many points pick something first. You not believing in god would make anything effort to convince you otherwise is useless, you got the answer now what 10 interpretations now? they will all lead to an answer the quran is a collection of words that no matter what using google translate and websites won't let you reach any conclusion, I'm not a scholar neither are you. We're pointlessly rambling

you made the rule. creation needs a creator. then you make an exception for god. special pleading. 10 interpretations = unclear. if it was from god, scholars wouldn't disagree.
neither am I a scholar. but I can read, you add things, I dont.
if it's pointless, stop replying

 

[InertiaBoy]

no. it's pointing out your logic is flawed. if everything needs a creator, god needs one too. if he doesn't, your rule is false. pick one.

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" to downplay it. I said he did. you said "I don't care I'm not muslim." so you're defending pedophilia just to argue?? you're quoting yourself like it helps. you're defending it.

If i was defending pedophilia i would be approving of sexual relations with children which i literally did the opposite, if i see someone saying something incorrect i will call them out and it doesnt mean i disagree or even care about everything they are saying

Ur so retarded

 

[Sage]

If i was defending pedophilia i would be approving of sexual relations with children which i literally did the opposite, if i see someone saying something incorrect i will call them out and it doesnt mean i disagree or even care about everything they are saying

Ur so retarded

"doesn't mean you have to fuck them." that's defending it. when I said he did, you said "I don't care." so you're just arguing for no reason? if you weren't defending it, you'd stop already

 

[ghoulmania]

you made the rule. creation needs a creator. then you make an exception for god. special pleading. 10 interpretations = unclear. if it was from god, scholars wouldn't disagree.
neither am I a scholar. but I can read, you add things, I dont.
if it's pointless, stop replying

nah uh, this is established by theologians who reached this consensus. It is you who is coming up with this blasphemy which has been refuted by the theologians. Did you come up and say God doesn't exist? No. You picked up ideas from other people and started plastering them as your own. See? Absolutely pointless walking the same path again and again. You just added the new idea that god has a creator now then, tell me who is his creator

 

[ghoulmania]

If i was defending pedophilia i would be approving of sexual relations with children which i literally did the opposite, if i see someone saying something incorrect i will call them out and it doesnt mean i disagree or even care about everything they are saying

Ur so retarded

"doesn't mean you have to fuck them." that's defending it. when I said he did, you said "I don't care." so you're just arguing for no reason? if you weren't defending it, you'd stop already

ok now relax kids

 

[Sage]

nah uh, this is established by theologians who reached this consensus. It is you who is coming up with this blasphemy which has been refuted by the theologians. Did you come up and say God doesn't exist? No. You picked up ideas from other people and started plastering them as your own. See? Absolutely pointless walking the same path again and again. You just added the new idea that god has a creator now then, tell me who is his creator

"theologians agreed" is just appeal to authority. they also agreed the earth was flat. I don't need to prove god doesn't exist. I'm pointing out your logic is broken. everything needs a creator except god is stupid. "who created god?" I'm not the one claiming everything needs a creator. you are. if you can make exceptions, I can too.
if it's pointless stop replying, but you can't admit defeat like all the other muslimtards.

 

[InertiaBoy]

"doesn't mean you have to fuck them." that's defending it. when I said he did, you said "I don't care." so you're just arguing for no reason? if you weren't defending it, you'd stop already

Because i disagree with you equating marrying a child to having sex with them

 

[Sage]

Because i disagree with you equating marrying a child to having sex with them

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" to make it seem less bad. I said he did. you said "I don't care." so what's your point? you're defending the marriage by pretending sex wasn't involved. why even mention it in the first place if it DID happen?

 

[yushmaxx]

@sync!

Ive asked this a while ago already. What evidence do you have that evolution isnt true?

 

[ghoulmania]

"theologians agreed" is just appeal to authority. they also agreed the earth was flat. I don't need to prove god doesn't exist. I'm pointing out your logic is broken. everything needs a creator except god is stupid. "who created god?" I'm not the one claiming everything needs a creator. you are. if you can make exceptions, I can too.
if it's pointless stop replying, but you can't admit defeat like all the other muslimtards.

Theologians did not say the earth is flat, the term "theologians" refers to multiple people being grouped under a category. Many eventually viewed the complete incoherency of this view of flat earth. You on the other hand presented absolutely answered, you're still on the same road not wanting to understand and move.

"but you can't admit defeat like all the other muslimtards"

 

[ghoulmania]

@sync!

Ive asked this a while ago already. What evidence do you have that evolution isnt true?

look we're all highschool kids with barely anything going for us, none of this debating bullshit is gonna do anything. It doesn't affect my life or your life or his life. Views won't change regardless lol

 

[Sage]

Theologians did not say the earth is flat, the term "theologians" refers to multiple people being grouped under a category. Many eventually viewed the complete incoherency of this view of flat earth. You on the other hand presented absolutely answered, you're still on the same road not wanting to understand and move.

"but you can't admit defeat like all the other muslimtards"

Theologians agreed on slavery too. Consensus isn't truth. You still haven't explained backbone, free will, or child marriage.

If you had answers you'd give them

 

[yushmaxx]

look we're all highschool kids with barely anything going for us, none of this debating bullshit is gonna do anything. It doesn't affect my life or your life or his life. Views won't change regardless lol

Thats true.

 

[InertiaBoy]

@sync!

Ive asked this a while ago already. What evidence do you have that evolution isnt true?

Not how it works, you have to prove something IS true otherwise i could go around claiming you are gay and suck dick everyday and you are supposed to be the one to desperately prove that you arent

 

[InertiaBoy]

you said "doesn't mean you have to fuck them" to make it seem less bad. I said he did. you said "I don't care." so what's your point? you're defending the marriage by pretending sex wasn't involved. why even mention it in the first place if it DID happen?

No, im defending all child marriages in general

 

[ghoulmania]

Theologians agreed on slavery too. Consensus isn't truth. You still haven't explained backbone, free will, or child marriage.

If you had answers you'd give them

Find them, if you're such a high IQ refuter and logic mastermind go read islamic sources and reach your OWN consensus