I consider surgery still "natural" if you don't have to get implants or fillers

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If you get cut while playing or fighting do you consider that a surgery? Nope.

Then if you're cut by a surgeon, that shouldn't be perceived as a surgery either. You're just paying a dude to cut your face specifically. You're still you, but better rearranged.

On the other hand, if you get silicone implants, botox, fillers, than you're "cheating" on your looks because you're adding something that is not yours and natural.
 
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Same. You're just reaching your max potential, especially if it's lipo for removing fat unresponsive to diet and exercise.
 
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Kinda retarded logic but nonetheless no blackpilled male should ever feel bad about getting surgery if it’s rhino or 5 inch LL.

Women use fake up, emotional and verbal manipulation, lie to their cuck husband about raising chads kids, lie about N count, what’s the point feeling bad about making yourself look better lol? I’ll get every surgery I can in this life
 
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