I hate my genioplasty

[monk321]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

 

[horseman.]

whyd you get it then

 

[monk321]

whyd you get it then

just had it slightly recessed like jeremy meeks from side profile

 

[Animepilled]

life is brutal brother. Cant you reverse it?

 

[ScientiaAeterna]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

Are u willing to share the pre and post?

 

[cutecel1337]

life is brutal brother. Cant you reverse it?

i mean thats the risk with surgery

 

[monk321]

life is brutal brother. Cant you reverse it

ofc not

Are u willing to share the pre and post?

not really

 

[Athmozz]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

Genio is so overrated for minor to moderate recession. It’s high risk low reward and virtually nothing filler can’t simply replicate for such cases

 

[monk321]

Genio is so overrated for minor to moderate recession. It’s high risk low reward and virtually nothing filler can’t simply replicate for such cases

ye unless you have ur chin sloping backwards not worth and jews surgeons should refuse to operate on you but all they care is about money

 

[d99lotus]

This is why I tell fags to not get genio unless their chin is severely recessed and any amount of improvement would help.

 

[monk321]

This is why I tell fags to not get genio unless their chin is severely recessed and any amount of improvement would help.

100% , filler mogs 99% of the times for moderate to slight recession , also chin projection barely matters it's all about mandible projection

 

[CopeTilliRope]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

sry you went through that bimax and genio are such memes surgery unless you reallyyy really need it but irl no one overanalyze how recessed your chin or mandible is excepted psl autist. it's all abourt harmony rly

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

bimax and genio are such memes surgery unless you reallyyy really need it

I'm getting a Lefort 1 and I don't "really really" need it. My underbite is moderate, the scans prove it, but I could live without it. I'm still getting it. If you are like clav who has above average jaw development, then yeah bimax will be low ROI for you most likely.

The "really really need it" part is a cope. If you are recessed, you will 100% benefit from it.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

it's all abourt harmony rly

Agreed, most gl guys just have a combo of okayish jaws development and good eyes. You don't need barret bones and top tier forward growth to look good.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

I'm getting a Lefort 1 and I don't "really really" need it. My underbite is moderate, the scans prove it, but I could live without it. I'm still getting it. If you are like clav who has above average jaw development, then yeah bimax will be low ROI for you most likely.

The "really really need it" part is a cope. If you are recessed, you will 100% benefit from it.

i mean if you are a good candidate with a compact midface from a frontal view why not but if you're facial ratio are slightly off from a front view i wouldnt gamble with a lefort 1 just to improve the side profile tbh. i'v yet to see a before and after pic of someone getting better looking from the front after a lefort 1 . side profile will look goated tho as always.

if i was compact i will sure do it tho to get a crazy nice side profile

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

i mean if you are a good candidate with a compact midface from a frontal view why not but if you're facial ratio are slightly off from a front view i wouldnt gamble with a lefort 1 just to improve the side profile tbh. i'v yet to see a before and after pic of someone getting better looking from the front after a lefort 1 . side profile will look goated tho as always

Lefort 1 balances out your CPR. I have a longer face from the front, and a chin that is a bit too tall (classic class 3 look).

Lefort 1 can make your front look better by balancing out your ratios, a recessed maxilla makes your chin look longer than it is.

I've seen plenty of frontal ascensions from lefort 1, but it's usually with people who have the classic class 3 look.

And yes I agree, some people's frontal doesn't change too much, though side profile also influences your 3/4 view which will also improve after your lefort 1.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

I'm getting a Lefort 1 and I don't "really really" need it. My underbite is moderate, the scans prove it, but I could live without it. I'm still getting it. If you are like clav who has above average jaw development, then yeah bimax will be low ROI for you most likely.

The "really really need it" part is a cope. If you are recessed, you will 100% benefit from it.

Lefort 1 balances out your CPR. I have a longer face from the front, and a chin that is a bit too tall (classic class 3 look).

Lefort 1 can make your front look better by balancing out your ratios, a recessed maxilla makes your chin look longer than it is.

I've seen plenty of frontal ascensions from lefort 1, but it's usually with people who have the classic class 3 look.

And yes I agree, some people's frontal doesn't change too much, though side profile also influences your 3/4 view which will also improve after your lefort 1.

i agree about the side profile and 3/4 obviously its the best surgeries there is but i disagree about the " it will balance your ratio " argument and make you automatically better looking .
i am lacking chin height but got a long philtrum and midface so getting a lefort 1 even with with some type of impaction will make my overall face even longer and even if in term of ratio it will be more balanced the overall result from the front will look too long and for people with long midface i've seen countless of case where it just look grotesque and just wayyy too long of a face even if the ratio are now more balanced .

i was browsing dr loncle ig page rn and i keep seeing that issue on longer midface patient that got djs . they all look great from the side and 3/4 but from the front its off . but again everyone is different you probably got better starting ratio than mine so you will be good

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

i agree about the side profile and 3/4 obviously its the best surgeries there is but i disagree about the " it will balance your ratio " argument and make you automatically better looking .
i am lacking chin height but got a long philtrum and midface so getting a lefort 1 even with with some type of impaction will make my overall face even longer and even if in term of ratio it will be more balanced the overall result from the front will look too long and for people with long midface i've seen countless of case where it just look grotesque and just wayyy too long of a face even if the ratio are now more balanced .

i was browsing dr loncle ig page rn and i keep seeing that issue on longer midface patient that got djs . they all look great from the side and 3/4 but from the front its off . but again everyone is different you probably got better starting ratio than mine so you will be good

I've heard the "longer front profile" argument before too, but tbh I've seen big big lefort 1 movements where the midface height barely changed. Only the perceived philtrum length got a very tad bit longer because the nose got more upturned.

You can tell that her movements were large, yet her midface barely looks longer post op. Her midface also looks fuller and more aesthetic.
And yes she is wearing makeup on the after so it's a bit frauded but still, you get my point.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

i agree about the side profile and 3/4 obviously its the best surgeries there is but i disagree about the " it will balance your ratio " argument and make you automatically better looking .
i am lacking chin height but got a long philtrum and midface so getting a lefort 1 even with with some type of impaction will make my overall face even longer and even if in term of ratio it will be more balanced the overall result from the front will look too long and for people with long midface i've seen countless of case where it just look grotesque and just wayyy too long of a face even if the ratio are now more balanced .

i was browsing dr loncle ig page rn and i keep seeing that issue on longer midface patient that got djs . they all look great from the side and 3/4 but from the front its off . but again everyone is different you probably got better starting ratio than mine so you will be good

All the longer midface post op cases I've seen are usually from downgrafting.

 

[monk321]

Agreed, most gl guys just have a combo of okayish jaws development and good eyes. You don't need barret bones and top tier forward growth to look good.

100% all the autistic psl features only matter on this forum , what really matter the most are health indicators good skin collagen hair etc... as long your bones are at least mtn tier you're good, and height and frame make at least 50% of perceived attractiveness too , complete retarded surgeries unless you have seriously functional issues or you're deformed by medical standards

 

[CopeTilliRope]

100% all the autistic psl features only matter on this forum , what really matter the most are health indicators good skin collagen hair etc... as long your bones are at least mtn tier you're good, and height and frame make at least 50% of perceived attractiveness too , complete retarded surgeries unless you have seriously functional issues or you're deformed by medical standards

mane to that 10000% if you're somewhat okay in the face with a solid nw1 all you need is good height + frame to be good to go irl

 

[monk321]

mane to that 10000% if you're somewhat okay in the face with a solid nw1 all you need is good height + frame to be good to go irl

yea just moneymax/statusmax atp infinite higher roi than risking botches here and there that will ruin your life , learned it the hard way

 

[koops]

100% all the autistic psl features only matter on this forum , what really matter the most are health indicators good skin collagen hair etc... as long your bones are at least mtn tier you're good, and height and frame make at least 50% of perceived attractiveness too , complete retarded surgeries unless you have seriously functional issues or you're deformed by medical standards

Not to mention that in 80-90% of cases Trimax does almost nothing for how you look from the front either. Some people here have this weird notion how you look from the side is everything, but how you look from the front trumps all. It is the angle we have all personal and intimate moments at. More than that, how you look from your front is literally your identity. On your Driver's License your face is shown from the front. If you close your eyes and picture someone in your life, you think of how they look from the front

Obviously side matters too, but people who think it is worth maxing out to a ridiculous degree are crazy and wasting their time

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

mane to that 10000% if you're somewhat okay in the face with a solid nw1 all you need is good height + frame to be good to go irl

True, but my side is my insecurity. I'm looking it more as fixing my insecurity. I've been in braces for over 3 months and the surgery is set at the end of next year so yeah..

 

[CopeTilliRope]

Not to mention that in 80-90% of cases Trimax does almost nothing for how you look from the front either. Some people here have this weird notion how you look from the side is everything, but how you look from the front trumps all. It is the angle we have all personal and intimate moments at. More than that, how you look from your front is literally your identity. On your Driver's License your face is shown from the front. If you close your eyes and picture someone in your life, you think of how they look from the front

Obviously side matters too, but people who think it is worth maxing out to a ridiculous degree are crazy and wasting their time

amen even chico side profile isnt the greatest

 

[Starchie]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

How old are you?

 

[user20266741]

It's been over a year and it still haunts me daily , watching my old photos with my already harmonious , natural chin makes me cry everytime. Genio made my chin asymmetric , narrow and with step off. Now all i care about is roping.

Is the projection ideal now?

Because you could do an implant to fix imperfections, asymmetry and width

 

[monk321]

Is the projection ideal now?

Because you could do an implant to fix imperfections, asymmetry and width

fixed it with fillers now it's almost like before , like ye it fixed aymmetry and step off to a satisfying level , won't do invasive surgery again , i'll probably bloat my jaw long term so i'll have to dissolve and refill constantly but it is what it is. Ye projection is pretty much ideal just few mm behind my lower lip in ff plane.