I have a -3mm regression on orbital vector and mid-set zygos Helpppppp

[nathan_Bs123]

I’ve been considering a custom infraorbital–malar implant to address both the under-eye support and cheek projection.

My question is:
Would infraorbital fat grafting alone be insufficient since it doesn’t address the underlying bone structure? (-3mm)

Would a combination approach (fat grafting for the infraorbital area + strictly malar implants for zygomatic projection) make more sense?
--> a sub-question to that would be are malar implants the perferred option for zygote manipulation.

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone with experience or knowledge on this.

 

[nathan_Bs123]

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[Antonlord7]

Your zygos are closer to be considered highest than meduimset
You just lack of support if you had more wide zygos you would have pct also
But you'll need zygo/malar, temples implants

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Your zygos are closer to be considered highest than meduimset
You just lack of support if you had more wide zygos you would have pct also
But you'll need zygo/malar, temples implants

temples implants interesting. I think my zygotes are around 75%. I'd love your opinion on my infras. also temple implants? First time i'm hearing about them tell me more

 

[Antonlord7]

temples implants interesting. I think my zygotes are around 75%. I'd love your opinion on my infras. also temple implants? First time i'm hearing about them tell me more

I said temples because it can help on the harmony because if you put only on zygos a lot like 3-4+ it's gonna make you look like alien and if you put extra 2-3mm on temples, it will make it more harmonious plus it can make your lateral part of your eyes, brows gain slightly more positive look
Infras would be perfect for reccesion/flat maxxila and make the illusion that you have more deepset eyes and cover you ct.
Probably you need an palate expansion mouth/lips are close

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I wonder if a more moderate change on my zygotes would be more beneficial, my bigonial width is 90 as of rn, I wonder if making it much more pronounced would not benefit me. I do think I need more forward projection on my zygotes rather than lateral in this case. in terms of palate expansion my palates actually quite big, I think im making a retarded face in the photo lmfao also alar base reduction from my rhino would fix my nose to lip ratio. For ct I plan to get a canthoplasty, my eyelashes make my eyes seem more negative than they are (neutral around 3 degrees rn). let me know what you think.

 

[nathan_Bs123]

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[nathan_Bs123]

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[looks_minimizing]

I’ve been considering a custom infraorbital–malar implant to address both the under-eye support and cheek projection.

My question is:
Would infraorbital fat grafting alone be insufficient since it doesn’t address the underlying bone structure? (-3mm)

Would a combination approach (fat grafting for the infraorbital area + strictly malar implants for zygomatic projection) make more sense?
--> a sub-question to that would be are malar implants the perferred option for zygote manipulation.

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone with experience or knowledge on this.

i've simulated some realistic before and afters based on the appliance you provided

front:

side:

overall, I think what you already had in mind in terms of the custom infraorbital–malar implant is a great idea that would do you wonders. I really wouldn't complicate it, as you said a fat graft for the under eye wouldn't be as great as simulated bone in the appliance you provided

 

[nathan_Bs123]

i've simulated some realistic before and afters based on the appliance you provided

front:
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side:
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overall, I think what you already had in mind in terms of the custom infraorbital–malar implant is a great idea that would do you wonders. I really wouldn't complicate it, as you said a fat graft for the under eye wouldn't be as great as simulated bone in the appliance you provided

Wow bro, thank you, I really enjoyed the morphs. Obviously in real life these would look a lot better, but I can definitely see that I look healthier.


From what I’ve gathered and what others have told me, going too big with implants is probably not the best approach. With the implant I shared, there seems to be too much mass in the submalar area, which isn’t ideal. I think it would make more sense to focus on adding projection to the zygomatic arch instead.


Because of that, I’m considering skipping the infraorbital component and maybe replacing it with fat grafting. I feel like the malar component alone could give a bit of a lifting effect anyway.


One thing that’s become really clear to me is that my facial leanness is not where it needs to be. Someone mentioned that 14 percent body fat is still too high saying I'm obese haha, so I’m planning to cut down to around 10 to 12 percent and then reassess how my bone structure looks. I’m also still in the process of trying to get a CBCT facial scan aswell for that.


Aqualyx is starting to seem really tempting right now. It’s hard to explain, but in certain lighting my cheeks look hollow, yet still kind of chubby at the same time. It’s like there’s visible fat, but also some hollowing. What do you think of that?


I’d really appreciate your thoughts on this, and let me know if you know anyone who could help me figure this out. You've been great help and I really appreciate you

 

[looks_minimizing]

Wow bro, thank you, I really enjoyed the morphs. Obviously in real life these would look a lot better, but I can definitely see that I look healthier.


From what I’ve gathered and what others have told me, going too big with implants is probably not the best approach. With the implant I shared, there seems to be too much mass in the submalar area, which isn’t ideal. I think it would make more sense to focus on adding projection to the zygomatic arch instead.


Because of that, I’m considering skipping the infraorbital component and maybe replacing it with fat grafting. I feel like the malar component alone could give a bit of a lifting effect anyway.


One thing that’s become really clear to me is that my facial leanness is not where it needs to be. Someone mentioned that 14 percent body fat is still too high saying I'm obese haha, so I’m planning to cut down to around 10 to 12 percent and then reassess how my bone structure looks. I’m also still in the process of trying to get a CBCT facial scan aswell for that.


Aqualyx is starting to seem really tempting right now. It’s hard to explain, but in certain lighting my cheeks look hollow, yet still kind of chubby at the same time. It’s like there’s visible fat, but also some hollowing. What do you think of that?


I’d really appreciate your thoughts on this, and let me know if you know anyone who could help me figure this out. You've been great help and I really appreciate you

I think a fat graft could benefit you significantly and ascend your already good eye area. I'm considering a fat graft myself and I have similar lack of under eye support. In your case it's not that bad so I think a fat graft could definitely clear it up whereas the infra component could be overkill based on what you said. If you do go through with a combo of both malar implants and infra fat grafts you should definitely show me the results, I'm curious to see what it would look like in real life with such a similar case to myself. I agree that the malar component alone would definitely provide sufficient lift to liven up the under eye area and a good fat graft will definitely give similar results to the infra implant you showed above but I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

In terms of bodyfat, I'd agree you could benefit from lower BF but you're already pretty lean at 14%, I'd say from what you're describing and what I've seen, you have good angularity and bone structure just maybe some cheek fat that's hiding it which could cause that lighting discrepancy that you mentioned. Aqualyx could definitely clear that up for you if you have stubborn face fat, given you're careful and do some good research beforehand. If you go through with Aqualyx you should wait until after implants and fat grafts are done because who knows, maybe you can kill two birds with one stone and save some money in the long run considering you'll want the implants and graft anyways

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I think a fat graft could benefit you significantly and ascend your already good eye area. I'm considering a fat graft myself and I have similar lack of under eye support. In your case it's not that bad so I think a fat graft could definitely clear it up whereas the infra component could be overkill based on what you said. If you do go through with a combo of both malar implants and infra fat grafts you should definitely show me the results, I'm curious to see what it would look like in real life with such a similar case to myself. I agree that the malar component alone would definitely provide sufficient lift to liven up the under eye area and a good fat graft will definitely give similar results to the infra implant you showed above but I'm really curious to see how it turns out. In terms of bodyfat, I'd agree you could benefit from lower BF but you're already pretty lean at 14%, I'd say from what you're describing and what I've seen, you have good angularity and bone structure just maybe some cheek fat that's hiding it which could cause that lighting discrepancy that you mentioned. Aqualyx could definitely clear that up for you if you have stubborn face fat, given you're careful and do some good research beforehand. If you go through with Aqualyx you should wait until after implants and fat grafts are done because who knows, maybe you can kill two birds with one stone and save some money in the long run considering you'll want the implants and graft anyways

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I think a fat graft could benefit you significantly and ascend your already good eye area. I'm considering a fat graft myself and I have similar lack of under eye support. In your case it's not that bad so I think a fat graft could definitely clear it up whereas the infra component could be overkill based on what you said. If you do go through with a combo of both malar implants and infra fat grafts you should definitely show me the results, I'm curious to see what it would look like in real life with such a similar case to myself. I agree that the malar component alone would definitely provide sufficient lift to liven up the under eye area and a good fat graft will definitely give similar results to the infra implant you showed above but I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

In terms of bodyfat, I'd agree you could benefit from lower BF but you're already pretty lean at 14%, I'd say from what you're describing and what I've seen, you have good angularity and bone structure just maybe some cheek fat that's hiding it which could cause that lighting discrepancy that you mentioned. Aqualyx could definitely clear that up for you if you have stubborn face fat, given you're careful and do some good research beforehand. If you go through with Aqualyx you should wait until after implants and fat grafts are done because who knows, maybe you can kill two birds with one stone and save some money in the long run considering you'll want the implants and graft anyways

bro I can tell you’re coming to the same conclusions as I am with my journey. I would love to talk more if you’re interested send me a pm

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I think a fat graft could benefit you significantly and ascend your already good eye area. I'm considering a fat graft myself and I have similar lack of under eye support. In your case it's not that bad so I think a fat graft could definitely clear it up whereas the infra component could be overkill based on what you said. If you do go through with a combo of both malar implants and infra fat grafts you should definitely show me the results, I'm curious to see what it would look like in real life with such a similar case to myself. I agree that the malar component alone would definitely provide sufficient lift to liven up the under eye area and a good fat graft will definitely give similar results to the infra implant you showed above but I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

In terms of bodyfat, I'd agree you could benefit from lower BF but you're already pretty lean at 14%, I'd say from what you're describing and what I've seen, you have good angularity and bone structure just maybe some cheek fat that's hiding it which could cause that lighting discrepancy that you mentioned. Aqualyx could definitely clear that up for you if you have stubborn face fat, given you're careful and do some good research beforehand. If you go through with Aqualyx you should wait until after implants and fat grafts are done because who knows, maybe you can kill two birds with one stone and save some money in the long run considering you'll want the implants and graft anyways

I’d love to give you my current protocol I’m going with all this stuff in more detail

 

[looks_minimizing]

bro I can tell you’re coming to the same conclusions as I am with my journey. I would love to talk more if you’re interested send me a pm

not sure if I can pm, because private account

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I think a fat graft could benefit you significantly and ascend your already good eye area. I'm considering a fat graft myself and I have similar lack of under eye support. In your case it's not that bad so I think a fat graft could definitely clear it up whereas the infra component could be overkill based on what you said. If you do go through with a combo of both malar implants and infra fat grafts you should definitely show me the results, I'm curious to see what it would look like in real life with such a similar case to myself. I agree that the malar component alone would definitely provide sufficient lift to liven up the under eye area and a good fat graft will definitely give similar results to the infra implant you showed above but I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

In terms of bodyfat, I'd agree you could benefit from lower BF but you're already pretty lean at 14%, I'd say from what you're describing and what I've seen, you have good angularity and bone structure just maybe some cheek fat that's hiding it which could cause that lighting discrepancy that you mentioned. Aqualyx could definitely clear that up for you if you have stubborn face fat, given you're careful and do some good research beforehand. If you go through with Aqualyx you should wait until after implants and fat grafts are done because who knows, maybe you can kill two birds with one stone and save some money in the long run considering you'll want the implants and graft anyways

I’d love to give you my current protocol I’m going with all this stuff in more detail

not sure if I can pm, because private account

let me know