I MADE THE OG FACEPULLER DEVICE

[Noesis]

just give me hope

It will work just abuse it in your sleep and don't buy the normal one

 

[stufftodo]

a collection of thoughts, might ramble a bit:

Nice dude, I'm doing a similar thing with a diy version of forwarddontics facepuller (fg.1) and a schwarz 3 way expander with reverse pull hooks from bracesshop (fg.2).

I got this setup from some old threads on here, if you search up "facepulling" you'll prolly be able to find them.

One thing I like about this setup over the one suggested in lookism is that you can wear it overnight and get 8 hours of pulling (you can actually sleep with the bow, you can't with the helmet) . I'm suspicious of the claim the lookism dude made, that he got results only pulling for 30 minutes, seems too good to be true.

Additionally, I think its important to suction mew when you're not using the facepuller, in order for your bones to not relapse back into their original position. Ik mewing is a meme (rightfully so, theres very little evidence to support that it can make a change in an adults face), but in this scenario it makes sense, since we're not trying to make changes but rather maintain the change we've gotten with the facepuller.

Its interesting to note how the idea of facepulling has evolved in two different directions; pulling for a long time with light forces (what we're doing here) and pulling for a short time with high forces (think @thejcpenny 's facepulling method). Idk which is more effective, if they're doing the same thing (total work done being whats important) or if they're affecting different mechanisms of growth

One thing I haven't looked too hard but that seems interesting is the idea of loosening the sutures. Its often done in MSE through cortipuncture. I wonder if theres a way to DIY something like that at home, or potentially come at the problem from a chemical perspective?

lastly, @stufftodo drop the fuckin stufftodostein files on facepulling bruh, I've been on the edge of my seat for it


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(fg.1, forwardontics facepuller)

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(fg.2, bracesshop schwarz 3 way expander)

too busy with grad school

 

[jeoyw9192]

too busy with grad school

Could you give a small rundown of it though?

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

too busy with grad school

fair enough

 

[shuka]

keep in mind you dont want to pull at a big angle, thats actually gonna recess you by dropping your molars

im taking a risk with 30 degrees tbh, I might tone it down to 25 or even 20

the thing is even 3mm of ccw can make you noticeably more defined, I have a forward grown maxilla but im a bit downswung, which contributes to a recessed jaw

3mm up could lowk change my life, so im counting on this

Like a sarpe do you think it could potentially affect zygo and mandible?

 

[shuka]

Can it be done with damon braces, i have them and with various hooks to put elastics for overbite. The only concern i see is that unlike a sarpe you would get almost only lower maxilla movement and teeth will go into a more overbite position?

 

[jeoyw9192]

cyclic loading

im working on something too, im planning to pull at a 30 degree angle ± 5 degrees, every hour for 3 minutes, starting at 500g and building up to 800g (becomes unsafe after that)

my appliance isnt anchored to anything, it relies on the force of the pull and a cheap suction around the teeth so it doesnt move. around the teeth is necessary, it takes like 100g to move teeth but more than that to move bone

i'll have longer 1 hour sessions at night before bed to sort of retain the results, youre right about mewing though, its huge copium for anybody above the age of 13 but its probably gonna act as a retainer added you have good posture and dont mouth breathe, especially in your sleep

im still working on designs and stuff, if this doesnt work then surgery's the only way, but im at the right age so im expecting 3-4mm after 6 months

do you have a visual description/change on how 3-4mm would impact ur face?

the most expensive shit was the helmet, i bought it for like 100 dollars, cuz it was new lmao, but second handed u could buy it for less than 50 idk, the fucking rubber bands costed like a dollar, also the clips 0,50, and the screws were like a dolar too so, this shit is cheap asf, was pretty easy to made, i just maked 2 holes and put the screws over there . i could say that im expecting 5-8 mm of forward growth or even more, i will also blast some hgh and roids so its not that crazy, the original mf gained almost a mm per month so i dont think its something crazy to achieve, also by consecuence this would save my raped infras and pop out my zygos. Anyways i will update how this shit will be working

im waiting 1.5 months cuz im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing as i said, once i finish that shit, i will use the helmet

the shit im using paired w damon braces looks like this, they are called planas tracks class 1
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appreciate the response and that makes sense; im wondering how this would directly impact the infras? did any of the past threads on facepulling report any infras forward growth (for instance the original facepulling one)