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TL;DR: I'm 21 6' and 155 lbs. I'm an mild aspie. Recently getting out into the world has introduced lots of evidence that suggests I'm at least chadlite but I'm still having trouble placing myself. Optimistically I'm a baby faced chad before his prime with niche appeal.

Here are the pictures. I deliberately tried to be natural looking in the first picture. Physique pics are no pump. I am up 15 lbs in 7 months so still an ongoing process. Video is to show me realistically. Finally, my skin is freaking out in most of these pictures because of a bad reaction.




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Up until a year or two ago (I'm 21), I had no clue looks mattered or that I was GL. It's been dawning on me more and more that I might be decently attractive. In b4 "just look at how women treat you" Well first of all I'll get to that and secondly I'm a bit of an autistic fuck like most of y'all so I'm both somewhat socially inept and uninterested in socializing. As I mature, I realize that autism has been less of a mental handicap and more of a developmental handicap. My brain is capable of learning social norms and frauding NT but it takes large amounts of practice and comfort to pull off. I was TOTALLY uninterested in being normal as a child so I just got like ZERO practice. So here I am with looks but no confidence and only basic social skills. It's a frightening but exciting time in my life.
Alright let me get into my looks analysis and social anecdotes. Just read the looks analysis if anything.
Looks Analysis
I think my face/persona is massively haloed by a few things:
Eyes - Hooded, PCT, relatively vertically narrow (not perfect), downswung medial cantus, blue, long eyelashes, good low set eyebrows. Not fantastic under eye support.
Jaw - Really really developed jaw. Borderline too developed. It would look slightly better with a little bit more forward growth but this is a bit nit picky.
Hair - Thick wavy hair type with ideal hairline combines for ideal hair overall.
Coloring - I think my coloring is really excellent and makes my face pop from far away.
Height - Without shoes I stand exactly 6' tall, With shoes and 1" shoe lifts I'm usually a bit shy of 6'2"

Good features:
FWHR - It's around 2-2.1 which is definitely ideal.
Good facial thirds - Equal thirds with slightly larger lower thirds. Ideal.
Hands - Slim, large and veiny. Apparently chicks dig this stuff.
Veinyness in general - My arms are vascular as fuck anytime I'm a little warm or its warm out

Flaws:
Biggest flaw has to be BABY FAT. However, this comes with some advantages. First of all, my dad had the same "problem" and just ended up looking like a college kid well into his 30s. Second of all, I think the youthful aesthetic appeals to a decent group of young women so I definitely have options. I am overall totally content with this flaw and I may or may not try to leanmaxx (probably won't do much).
Narrow chin - Not so bad that it sticks out as a flaw to most people but definitely not ideal. Chin augmentation would probably help my looks noticeably and it's something I'm considering in the coming years.
Thin lips/narrow mouth - Definitely my lips and mouth fall short of ideal but again I don't think it strikes any normal person looking at me because they aren't THAT bad and once again I got so many halos going for me it just gets overlooked. I think I'll get invisalign for a wider smile. The lips can stay.
Total FWHR - around 1.22. Basically my heads a bit blocky. Not so bad imo.
Asymmetry - Who doesn't have a bit of asymmetry. Tbh I don't know how bad mine is, only that its present. Doesn't seem so bad though.
Nose/ears?? - I am not so sure on how to measure these. Either way I know they are fine but I'd love to hear how they stack up.
Frame - I'm definitely a bit lanky. I think its another case of not ideal but not exactly a striking flaw to most people. It's like lacking bonus points, if I get jacked with my current frame people will still find it impressive it just lacks that "wow" factor. 6.4" wrists >.<
Voice - It ain't great, definitely detracts from me but doesn't ruin me either. Considering surgery for this one.

So I'm at least chadlite but idk honestly the difference between CL and chad. I am optimistically Chad with baby face who appeals to a certain niche.

Breakdown of some female encounters: (Not entirely relevant but I think it adds to my story)
Ok writing all of the following out makes me feel cocky as hell but I'm still a little uncertain. Maybe I really am seeking nothing but validation deep down (aren't we all?). Not sure if I'm getting CL or chad treatment.
- Me and a girl at work had a mutual crush and she literally said it was because I was hot/cute. This happened twice. Nothing happened because I was an autistic fuck.
- I deliver food on gig apps near the university. This affords me lots of short interactions with girls my age. I definitely notice some micro expressions quite commonly. For example, girls will stare at me longer than necessary, be really smiley, sometimes act nervous (maybe I'm misreading disinterest). There have been multiple instances of haloing with personality traits where girls (and guys) suggested I was hard working and accomplished. I tried to apply to 2 restaurants near the university. In the following days, the crew at both places (especially the girls) commented on it a little more than necessary and said how nice it would be for me to work there. One girl at a restaurant handed me the food and gave me the most over the top seductive expression I nearly laughed. Too bad she was a 4/10 and 6'1".
- I've had guys and girls tell me countless times I look like X attractive celebrity, or a hollywood actor in general.
- The only actual encounter I've had with a girl was at a rave. Within 30 minutes 2 girls had approached me and this was the second one. She was really cute 6-6.5/10 and my type. I acted autistic as fuck but she just helped me vibe and get past the awkwardness. We danced and got touchy and then she just made out with me O.O Literally all her and she kept telling me how handsome I was.
- On Tinder I'm using some pretty sub par mirror selfies - its all very autistic. I got 99 likes in the first 24ish hours and on the first day I swiped on every 5+/10 equaling 32 matches (medium american city). I still get 2-5 matches a day months later and about 1 in 10 girls message me first.

Looksmaxxing I've done. Last section, skip if you want its kinda irrelevant.
Gym - Gained 15 lbs in 7 months. Pretty ideal lean bulk especially since I only tracked macros for a month.
Neck - I'm putting this separate from gym because it was such a big deal and so easy. I wish I measured but it grew from scrawny to average in just a few months.
Posture - Quite extensive work was done on this. I spent a lot of conscious time focusing on keeping good posture to really ingrain it into my mind but this is only half the work. I strengthened my glutes, abs, and rotator cuff muscles in isolation which helped more than just thinking about posture.
Skin care - This was big. I had pretty moderate to somewhat severe acne that is now quite mild thanks to some skincare products. Texture and color is better too.
Teeth hygiene and whitening - Brush 2x floss 1x mouthwash 1x daily. Use whitening strips
Learning how to style hair and washing less frequently
Hygiene - Deodorant, cologne. Just taking showers, bro.
Eyebrows - I skeptically tried castor oil and it worked. Subtle but noticeable improvements in less dense areas, especially towards the center. I also got them dyed/tinted subtly darker.
Mewing - Not 100% sure this shit works but the claims are encouraging enough to at least try. My forward growth has always been OK since I wasn't a mouth breather but slightly more would be idea. Check back in 1-2 years I'm only 3 months in.
9 hours of sleep - Big part of my success at the gym and it improves you in really subtle ways. Basically I stopped using an alarm clock and my body naturally asks for about 9.5 hours in bed.
Supplements - This probably only makes longer term differences.
Sunscreen - I'm religious about this shit now. I really think I can be the guy who looks 35 at 50 and sunscreen is my secret weapon. Also the baby fat will help.
Fashion/style - After some gay ass experimentation I'm digging the timeless masculine aesthetic. Slim fit t-shirt or tank top, bomber jacket or hoodie. Slim straight jeans. White sneakers or converse. Subtle silver chain. Oh and I drive a Miata that's gotta count for style.

Yikes thanks to anyone who read that. I don't use social media so I'm not used to posting my life online like this.

Can I get @Korea to check this post out. Hes one smart and thorough dude.
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`HTN/chadlite borderline

Id say HTN myself
 
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`HTN/chadlite borderline

Id say HTN myself
Htn/low chadlite, still your good looking if you can show proof of tinder you might change my and others minds, still don’t worry to much about your looks
 
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TL;DR: I'm 21 6' and 155 lbs. I'm an mild aspie. Recently getting out into the world has introduced lots of evidence that suggests I'm at least chadlite but I'm still having trouble placing myself. Optimistically I'm a baby faced chad before his prime with niche appeal.

Here are the pictures. I deliberately tried to be natural looking in the first picture. Physique pics are no pump. I am up 15 lbs in 7 months so still an ongoing process. Video is to show me realistically. Finally, my skin is freaking out in most of these pictures because of a bad reaction.




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Up until a year or two ago (I'm 21), I had no clue looks mattered or that I was GL. It's been dawning on me more and more that I might be decently attractive. In b4 "just look at how women treat you" Well first of all I'll get to that and secondly I'm a bit of an autistic fuck like most of y'all so I'm both somewhat socially inept and uninterested in socializing. As I mature, I realize that autism has been less of a mental handicap and more of a developmental handicap. My brain is capable of learning social norms and frauding NT but it takes large amounts of practice and comfort to pull off. I was TOTALLY uninterested in being normal as a child so I just got like ZERO practice. So here I am with looks but no confidence and only basic social skills. It's a frightening but exciting time in my life.
Alright let me get into my looks analysis and social anecdotes. Just read the looks analysis if anything.
Looks Analysis
I think my face/persona is massively haloed by a few things:
Eyes - Hooded, PCT, relatively vertically narrow (not perfect), downswung medial cantus, blue, long eyelashes, good low set eyebrows. Not fantastic under eye support.
Jaw - Really really developed jaw. Borderline too developed. It would look slightly better with a little bit more forward growth but this is a bit nit picky.
Hair - Thick wavy hair type with ideal hairline combines for ideal hair overall.
Coloring - I think my coloring is really excellent and makes my face pop from far away.
Height - Without shoes I stand exactly 6' tall, With shoes and 1" shoe lifts I'm usually a bit shy of 6'2"

Good features:
FWHR - It's around 2-2.1 which is definitely ideal.
Good facial thirds - Equal thirds with slightly larger lower thirds. Ideal.
Hands - Slim, large and veiny. Apparently chicks dig this stuff.
Veinyness in general - My arms are vascular as fuck anytime I'm a little warm or its warm out

Flaws:
Biggest flaw has to be BABY FAT. However, this comes with some advantages. First of all, my dad had the same "problem" and just ended up looking like a college kid well into his 30s. Second of all, I think the youthful aesthetic appeals to a decent group of young women so I definitely have options. I am overall totally content with this flaw and I may or may not try to leanmaxx (probably won't do much).
Narrow chin - Not so bad that it sticks out as a flaw to most people but definitely not ideal. Chin augmentation would probably help my looks noticeably and it's something I'm considering in the coming years.
Thin lips/narrow mouth - Definitely my lips and mouth fall short of ideal but again I don't think it strikes any normal person looking at me because they aren't THAT bad and once again I got so many halos going for me it just gets overlooked. I think I'll get invisalign for a wider smile. The lips can stay.
Total FWHR - around 1.22. Basically my heads a bit blocky. Not so bad imo.
Asymmetry - Who doesn't have a bit of asymmetry. Tbh I don't know how bad mine is, only that its present. Doesn't seem so bad though.
Nose/ears?? - I am not so sure on how to measure these. Either way I know they are fine but I'd love to hear how they stack up.
Frame - I'm definitely a bit lanky. I think its another case of not ideal but not exactly a striking flaw to most people. It's like lacking bonus points, if I get jacked with my current frame people will still find it impressive it just lacks that "wow" factor. 6.4" wrists >.<
Voice - It ain't great, definitely detracts from me but doesn't ruin me either. Considering surgery for this one.

So I'm at least chadlite but idk honestly the difference between CL and chad. I am optimistically Chad with baby face who appeals to a certain niche.

Breakdown of some female encounters: (Not entirely relevant but I think it adds to my story)
Ok writing all of the following out makes me feel cocky as hell but I'm still a little uncertain. Maybe I really am seeking nothing but validation deep down (aren't we all?). Not sure if I'm getting CL or chad treatment.
- Me and a girl at work had a mutual crush and she literally said it was because I was hot/cute. This happened twice. Nothing happened because I was an autistic fuck.
- I deliver food on gig apps near the university. This affords me lots of short interactions with girls my age. I definitely notice some micro expressions quite commonly. For example, girls will stare at me longer than necessary, be really smiley, sometimes act nervous (maybe I'm misreading disinterest). There have been multiple instances of haloing with personality traits where girls (and guys) suggested I was hard working and accomplished. I tried to apply to 2 restaurants near the university. In the following days, the crew at both places (especially the girls) commented on it a little more than necessary and said how nice it would be for me to work there. One girl at a restaurant handed me the food and gave me the most over the top seductive expression I nearly laughed. Too bad she was a 4/10 and 6'1".
- I've had guys and girls tell me countless times I look like X attractive celebrity, or a hollywood actor in general.
- The only actual encounter I've had with a girl was at a rave. Within 30 minutes 2 girls had approached me and this was the second one. She was really cute 6-6.5/10 and my type. I acted autistic as fuck but she just helped me vibe and get past the awkwardness. We danced and got touchy and then she just made out with me O.O Literally all her and she kept telling me how handsome I was.
- On Tinder I'm using some pretty sub par mirror selfies - its all very autistic. I got 99 likes in the first 24ish hours and on the first day I swiped on every 5+/10 equaling 32 matches (medium american city). I still get 2-5 matches a day months later and about 1 in 10 girls message me first.

Looksmaxxing I've done. Last section, skip if you want its kinda irrelevant.
Gym - Gained 15 lbs in 7 months. Pretty ideal lean bulk especially since I only tracked macros for a month.
Neck - I'm putting this separate from gym because it was such a big deal and so easy. I wish I measured but it grew from scrawny to average in just a few months.
Posture - Quite extensive work was done on this. I spent a lot of conscious time focusing on keeping good posture to really ingrain it into my mind but this is only half the work. I strengthened my glutes, abs, and rotator cuff muscles in isolation which helped more than just thinking about posture.
Skin care - This was big. I had pretty moderate to somewhat severe acne that is now quite mild thanks to some skincare products. Texture and color is better too.
Teeth hygiene and whitening - Brush 2x floss 1x mouthwash 1x daily. Use whitening strips
Learning how to style hair and washing less frequently
Hygiene - Deodorant, cologne. Just taking showers, bro.
Eyebrows - I skeptically tried castor oil and it worked. Subtle but noticeable improvements in less dense areas, especially towards the center. I also got them dyed/tinted subtly darker.
Mewing - Not 100% sure this shit works but the claims are encouraging enough to at least try. My forward growth has always been OK since I wasn't a mouth breather but slightly more would be idea. Check back in 1-2 years I'm only 3 months in.
9 hours of sleep - Big part of my success at the gym and it improves you in really subtle ways. Basically I stopped using an alarm clock and my body naturally asks for about 9.5 hours in bed.
Supplements - This probably only makes longer term differences.
Sunscreen - I'm religious about this shit now. I really think I can be the guy who looks 35 at 50 and sunscreen is my secret weapon. Also the baby fat will help.
Fashion/style - After some gay ass experimentation I'm digging the timeless masculine aesthetic. Slim fit t-shirt or tank top, bomber jacket or hoodie. Slim straight jeans. White sneakers or converse. Subtle silver chain. Oh and I drive a Miata that's gotta count for style.

Yikes thanks to anyone who read that. I don't use social media so I'm not used to posting my life online like this.

Can I get @Korea to check this post out. Hes one smart and thorough dude.
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Looks good. Keep lean bulking and don't get cocky
 
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What was your routine
Also very attractive I got boner
Skin care routine - I have normal, sensitive skin. I wash AM and PM using the same cleanser/moisturizer (simple micellar/cerave lotion). AM I use vitamin C serum and sunscreen for longevity. PM I use salicylic acid, adapalene retinol 0.1%, and castor oil to eyebrows. I apply benzoyl peroxide as needed to acne.

I derived this routine from looking at a bunch of trusted online dermatologists and basically honed in on what they agreed on. Longevity and acne ingredients FTW.

BEFORE (try to ignore selfie lens distortion)
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PRODUCTS
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Skin care routine - I have normal, sensitive skin. I wash AM and PM using the same cleanser/moisturizer (simple micellar/cerave lotion). AM I use vitamin C serum and sunscreen for longevity. PM I use salicylic acid, adapalene retinol 0.1%, and castor oil to eyebrows. I apply benzoyl peroxide as needed to acne.

I derived this routine from looking at a bunch of trusted online dermatologists and basically honed in on what they agreed on. Longevity and acne ingredients FTW.

BEFORE (try to ignore selfie lens distortion)
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The comments were about as toxic as I expected from this forum, mix of good and bad. I’m solidly CL like I thought. Good motivation to keep looksmaxxing and enjoy my like tbh.
 
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side is chad

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It still looks good short but I think you might as well grow it back out for a while
I’ll prolly make another thread on this. I dig it long but it’s SO hard to style. my hair gets very poofy when it’s longer
 
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I thought those pictures were an animated character in motion. That's how attractive OP is. He looks like he came straight out of an animation. Chadlite range for sure. Congrats on the looksmaxing!
 
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TL;DR: I'm 21 6' and 155 lbs. I'm an mild aspie. Recently getting out into the world has introduced lots of evidence that suggests I'm at least chadlite but I'm still having trouble placing myself. Optimistically I'm a baby faced chad before his prime with niche appeal.

Here are the pictures. I deliberately tried to be natural looking in the first picture. Physique pics are no pump. I am up 15 lbs in 7 months so still an ongoing process. Video is to show me realistically. Finally, my skin is freaking out in most of these pictures because of a bad reaction.




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Up until a year or two ago (I'm 21), I had no clue looks mattered or that I was GL. It's been dawning on me more and more that I might be decently attractive. In b4 "just look at how women treat you" Well first of all I'll get to that and secondly I'm a bit of an autistic fuck like most of y'all so I'm both somewhat socially inept and uninterested in socializing. As I mature, I realize that autism has been less of a mental handicap and more of a developmental handicap. My brain is capable of learning social norms and frauding NT but it takes large amounts of practice and comfort to pull off. I was TOTALLY uninterested in being normal as a child so I just got like ZERO practice. So here I am with looks but no confidence and only basic social skills. It's a frightening but exciting time in my life.
Alright let me get into my looks analysis and social anecdotes. Just read the looks analysis if anything.
Looks Analysis
I think my face/persona is massively haloed by a few things:
Eyes - Hooded, PCT, relatively vertically narrow (not perfect), downswung medial cantus, blue, long eyelashes, good low set eyebrows. Not fantastic under eye support.
Jaw - Really really developed jaw. Borderline too developed. It would look slightly better with a little bit more forward growth but this is a bit nit picky.
Hair - Thick wavy hair type with ideal hairline combines for ideal hair overall.
Coloring - I think my coloring is really excellent and makes my face pop from far away.
Height - Without shoes I stand exactly 6' tall, With shoes and 1" shoe lifts I'm usually a bit shy of 6'2"

Good features:
FWHR - It's around 2-2.1 which is definitely ideal.
Good facial thirds - Equal thirds with slightly larger lower thirds. Ideal.
Hands - Slim, large and veiny. Apparently chicks dig this stuff.
Veinyness in general - My arms are vascular as fuck anytime I'm a little warm or its warm out

Flaws:
Biggest flaw has to be BABY FAT. However, this comes with some advantages. First of all, my dad had the same "problem" and just ended up looking like a college kid well into his 30s. Second of all, I think the youthful aesthetic appeals to a decent group of young women so I definitely have options. I am overall totally content with this flaw and I may or may not try to leanmaxx (probably won't do much).
Narrow chin - Not so bad that it sticks out as a flaw to most people but definitely not ideal. Chin augmentation would probably help my looks noticeably and it's something I'm considering in the coming years.
Thin lips/narrow mouth - Definitely my lips and mouth fall short of ideal but again I don't think it strikes any normal person looking at me because they aren't THAT bad and once again I got so many halos going for me it just gets overlooked. I think I'll get invisalign for a wider smile. The lips can stay.
Total FWHR - around 1.22. Basically my heads a bit blocky. Not so bad imo.
Asymmetry - Who doesn't have a bit of asymmetry. Tbh I don't know how bad mine is, only that its present. Doesn't seem so bad though.
Nose/ears?? - I am not so sure on how to measure these. Either way I know they are fine but I'd love to hear how they stack up.
Frame - I'm definitely a bit lanky. I think its another case of not ideal but not exactly a striking flaw to most people. It's like lacking bonus points, if I get jacked with my current frame people will still find it impressive it just lacks that "wow" factor. 6.4" wrists >.<
Voice - It ain't great, definitely detracts from me but doesn't ruin me either. Considering surgery for this one.

So I'm at least chadlite but idk honestly the difference between CL and chad. I am optimistically Chad with baby face who appeals to a certain niche.

Breakdown of some female encounters: (Not entirely relevant but I think it adds to my story)
Ok writing all of the following out makes me feel cocky as hell but I'm still a little uncertain. Maybe I really am seeking nothing but validation deep down (aren't we all?). Not sure if I'm getting CL or chad treatment.
- Me and a girl at work had a mutual crush and she literally said it was because I was hot/cute. This happened twice. Nothing happened because I was an autistic fuck.
- I deliver food on gig apps near the university. This affords me lots of short interactions with girls my age. I definitely notice some micro expressions quite commonly. For example, girls will stare at me longer than necessary, be really smiley, sometimes act nervous (maybe I'm misreading disinterest). There have been multiple instances of haloing with personality traits where girls (and guys) suggested I was hard working and accomplished. I tried to apply to 2 restaurants near the university. In the following days, the crew at both places (especially the girls) commented on it a little more than necessary and said how nice it would be for me to work there. One girl at a restaurant handed me the food and gave me the most over the top seductive expression I nearly laughed. Too bad she was a 4/10 and 6'1".
- I've had guys and girls tell me countless times I look like X attractive celebrity, or a hollywood actor in general.
- The only actual encounter I've had with a girl was at a rave. Within 30 minutes 2 girls had approached me and this was the second one. She was really cute 6-6.5/10 and my type. I acted autistic as fuck but she just helped me vibe and get past the awkwardness. We danced and got touchy and then she just made out with me O.O Literally all her and she kept telling me how handsome I was.
- On Tinder I'm using some pretty sub par mirror selfies - its all very autistic. I got 99 likes in the first 24ish hours and on the first day I swiped on every 5+/10 equaling 32 matches (medium american city). I still get 2-5 matches a day months later and about 1 in 10 girls message me first.

Looksmaxxing I've done. Last section, skip if you want its kinda irrelevant.
Gym - Gained 15 lbs in 7 months. Pretty ideal lean bulk especially since I only tracked macros for a month.
Neck - I'm putting this separate from gym because it was such a big deal and so easy. I wish I measured but it grew from scrawny to average in just a few months.
Posture - Quite extensive work was done on this. I spent a lot of conscious time focusing on keeping good posture to really ingrain it into my mind but this is only half the work. I strengthened my glutes, abs, and rotator cuff muscles in isolation which helped more than just thinking about posture.
Skin care - This was big. I had pretty moderate to somewhat severe acne that is now quite mild thanks to some skincare products. Texture and color is better too.
Teeth hygiene and whitening - Brush 2x floss 1x mouthwash 1x daily. Use whitening strips
Learning how to style hair and washing less frequently
Hygiene - Deodorant, cologne. Just taking showers, bro.
Eyebrows - I skeptically tried castor oil and it worked. Subtle but noticeable improvements in less dense areas, especially towards the center. I also got them dyed/tinted subtly darker.
Mewing - Not 100% sure this shit works but the claims are encouraging enough to at least try. My forward growth has always been OK since I wasn't a mouth breather but slightly more would be idea. Check back in 1-2 years I'm only 3 months in.
9 hours of sleep - Big part of my success at the gym and it improves you in really subtle ways. Basically I stopped using an alarm clock and my body naturally asks for about 9.5 hours in bed.
Supplements - This probably only makes longer term differences.
Sunscreen - I'm religious about this shit now. I really think I can be the guy who looks 35 at 50 and sunscreen is my secret weapon. Also the baby fat will help.
Fashion/style - After some gay ass experimentation I'm digging the timeless masculine aesthetic. Slim fit t-shirt or tank top, bomber jacket or hoodie. Slim straight jeans. White sneakers or converse. Subtle silver chain. Oh and I drive a Miata that's gotta count for style.

Yikes thanks to anyone who read that. I don't use social media so I'm not used to posting my life online like this.

Can I get @Korea to check this post out. Hes one smart and thorough dude.
its over, dude
 
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I'd argue you could even be HTN rather than Chadlite.
What saves you is your phenomenon, being white you are rated less harshly than someone whose ethnic who mogs you.

You face is too chubby to be Chadlite imo, you could possibly be lower tier but I'd say HTN personally

Your eye area saves you too
 
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TL;DR: I'm 21 6' and 155 lbs. I'm an mild aspie. Recently getting out into the world has introduced lots of evidence that suggests I'm at least chadlite but I'm still having trouble placing myself. Optimistically I'm a baby faced chad before his prime with niche appeal.

Here are the pictures. I deliberately tried to be natural looking in the first picture. Physique pics are no pump. I am up 15 lbs in 7 months so still an ongoing process. Video is to show me realistically. Finally, my skin is freaking out in most of these pictures because of a bad reaction.




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Up until a year or two ago (I'm 21), I had no clue looks mattered or that I was GL. It's been dawning on me more and more that I might be decently attractive. In b4 "just look at how women treat you" Well first of all I'll get to that and secondly I'm a bit of an autistic fuck like most of y'all so I'm both somewhat socially inept and uninterested in socializing. As I mature, I realize that autism has been less of a mental handicap and more of a developmental handicap. My brain is capable of learning social norms and frauding NT but it takes large amounts of practice and comfort to pull off. I was TOTALLY uninterested in being normal as a child so I just got like ZERO practice. So here I am with looks but no confidence and only basic social skills. It's a frightening but exciting time in my life.
Alright let me get into my looks analysis and social anecdotes. Just read the looks analysis if anything.
Looks Analysis
I think my face/persona is massively haloed by a few things:
Eyes - Hooded, PCT, relatively vertically narrow (not perfect), downswung medial cantus, blue, long eyelashes, good low set eyebrows. Not fantastic under eye support.
Jaw - Really really developed jaw. Borderline too developed. It would look slightly better with a little bit more forward growth but this is a bit nit picky.
Hair - Thick wavy hair type with ideal hairline combines for ideal hair overall.
Coloring - I think my coloring is really excellent and makes my face pop from far away.
Height - Without shoes I stand exactly 6' tall, With shoes and 1" shoe lifts I'm usually a bit shy of 6'2"

Good features:
FWHR - It's around 2-2.1 which is definitely ideal.
Good facial thirds - Equal thirds with slightly larger lower thirds. Ideal.
Hands - Slim, large and veiny. Apparently chicks dig this stuff.
Veinyness in general - My arms are vascular as fuck anytime I'm a little warm or its warm out

Flaws:
Biggest flaw has to be BABY FAT. However, this comes with some advantages. First of all, my dad had the same "problem" and just ended up looking like a college kid well into his 30s. Second of all, I think the youthful aesthetic appeals to a decent group of young women so I definitely have options. I am overall totally content with this flaw and I may or may not try to leanmaxx (probably won't do much).
Narrow chin - Not so bad that it sticks out as a flaw to most people but definitely not ideal. Chin augmentation would probably help my looks noticeably and it's something I'm considering in the coming years.
Thin lips/narrow mouth - Definitely my lips and mouth fall short of ideal but again I don't think it strikes any normal person looking at me because they aren't THAT bad and once again I got so many halos going for me it just gets overlooked. I think I'll get invisalign for a wider smile. The lips can stay.
Total FWHR - around 1.22. Basically my heads a bit blocky. Not so bad imo.
Asymmetry - Who doesn't have a bit of asymmetry. Tbh I don't know how bad mine is, only that its present. Doesn't seem so bad though.
Nose/ears?? - I am not so sure on how to measure these. Either way I know they are fine but I'd love to hear how they stack up.
Frame - I'm definitely a bit lanky. I think its another case of not ideal but not exactly a striking flaw to most people. It's like lacking bonus points, if I get jacked with my current frame people will still find it impressive it just lacks that "wow" factor. 6.4" wrists >.<
Voice - It ain't great, definitely detracts from me but doesn't ruin me either. Considering surgery for this one.

So I'm at least chadlite but idk honestly the difference between CL and chad. I am optimistically Chad with baby face who appeals to a certain niche.

Breakdown of some female encounters: (Not entirely relevant but I think it adds to my story)
Ok writing all of the following out makes me feel cocky as hell but I'm still a little uncertain. Maybe I really am seeking nothing but validation deep down (aren't we all?). Not sure if I'm getting CL or chad treatment.
- Me and a girl at work had a mutual crush and she literally said it was because I was hot/cute. This happened twice. Nothing happened because I was an autistic fuck.
- I deliver food on gig apps near the university. This affords me lots of short interactions with girls my age. I definitely notice some micro expressions quite commonly. For example, girls will stare at me longer than necessary, be really smiley, sometimes act nervous (maybe I'm misreading disinterest). There have been multiple instances of haloing with personality traits where girls (and guys) suggested I was hard working and accomplished. I tried to apply to 2 restaurants near the university. In the following days, the crew at both places (especially the girls) commented on it a little more than necessary and said how nice it would be for me to work there. One girl at a restaurant handed me the food and gave me the most over the top seductive expression I nearly laughed. Too bad she was a 4/10 and 6'1".
- I've had guys and girls tell me countless times I look like X attractive celebrity, or a hollywood actor in general.
- The only actual encounter I've had with a girl was at a rave. Within 30 minutes 2 girls had approached me and this was the second one. She was really cute 6-6.5/10 and my type. I acted autistic as fuck but she just helped me vibe and get past the awkwardness. We danced and got touchy and then she just made out with me O.O Literally all her and she kept telling me how handsome I was.
- On Tinder I'm using some pretty sub par mirror selfies - its all very autistic. I got 99 likes in the first 24ish hours and on the first day I swiped on every 5+/10 equaling 32 matches (medium american city). I still get 2-5 matches a day months later and about 1 in 10 girls message me first.

Looksmaxxing I've done. Last section, skip if you want its kinda irrelevant.
Gym - Gained 15 lbs in 7 months. Pretty ideal lean bulk especially since I only tracked macros for a month.
Neck - I'm putting this separate from gym because it was such a big deal and so easy. I wish I measured but it grew from scrawny to average in just a few months.
Posture - Quite extensive work was done on this. I spent a lot of conscious time focusing on keeping good posture to really ingrain it into my mind but this is only half the work. I strengthened my glutes, abs, and rotator cuff muscles in isolation which helped more than just thinking about posture.
Skin care - This was big. I had pretty moderate to somewhat severe acne that is now quite mild thanks to some skincare products. Texture and color is better too.
Teeth hygiene and whitening - Brush 2x floss 1x mouthwash 1x daily. Use whitening strips
Learning how to style hair and washing less frequently
Hygiene - Deodorant, cologne. Just taking showers, bro.
Eyebrows - I skeptically tried castor oil and it worked. Subtle but noticeable improvements in less dense areas, especially towards the center. I also got them dyed/tinted subtly darker.
Mewing - Not 100% sure this shit works but the claims are encouraging enough to at least try. My forward growth has always been OK since I wasn't a mouth breather but slightly more would be idea. Check back in 1-2 years I'm only 3 months in.
9 hours of sleep - Big part of my success at the gym and it improves you in really subtle ways. Basically I stopped using an alarm clock and my body naturally asks for about 9.5 hours in bed.
Supplements - This probably only makes longer term differences.
Sunscreen - I'm religious about this shit now. I really think I can be the guy who looks 35 at 50 and sunscreen is my secret weapon. Also the baby fat will help.
Fashion/style - After some gay ass experimentation I'm digging the timeless masculine aesthetic. Slim fit t-shirt or tank top, bomber jacket or hoodie. Slim straight jeans. White sneakers or converse. Subtle silver chain. Oh and I drive a Miata that's gotta count for style.

Yikes thanks to anyone who read that. I don't use social media so I'm not used to posting my life online like this.

Can I get @Korea to check this post out. Hes one smart and thorough dude.
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I derived this routine from looking at a bunch of trusted online dermatologists and basically honed in on what they agreed on. Longevity and acne ingredients FTW.

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The cerva lotion has parabens use sm else
 
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idk but you got kinda puffy cheeks in my opinion
 
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whats with the high quality cam. Are you like an uprising gay porner
 
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Your face is normie imo, so much falios I dont feel like listing. But who cares about what people say abt u on this forum, u got 99+ likes on tinder, good job.
 
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The side profile is chad tier tho
 
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HTN rn, chadlite after you lose face fat
 
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Your face is normie imo, so much falios I dont feel like listing. But who cares about what people say abt u on this forum, u got 99+ likes on tinder, good job.
Yeah I really gotta take this sweaty forum with a grain of salt. Interesting commentary overall (not just this thread) but no one really knows everything. This is true for all sources of info though.

I’m pretty certain a small percentage of women see me as chad because they like a boyish looking dude. Otherwise, I really can’t explain some of the interactions I’ve had. That’s the type of shit ppl on this site miss.
 
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Yeah I really gotta take this sweaty forum with a grain of salt. Interesting commentary overall (not just this thread) but no one really knows everything. This is true for all sources of info though.

I’m pretty certain a small percentage of women see me as chad because they like a boyish looking dude. Otherwise, I really can’t explain some of the interactions I’ve had. That’s the type of shit ppl on this site miss.
This forum is a joke. You are a normie and yet still doing extremely well on tinder. Leave this forum and live your life. Im going to do the same, im only here to talk shit to ugly ass bitter incels.
 
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Skin care routine - I have normal, sensitive skin. I wash AM and PM using the same cleanser/moisturizer (simple micellar/cerave lotion). AM I use vitamin C serum and sunscreen for longevity. PM I use salicylic acid, adapalene retinol 0.1%, and castor oil to eyebrows. I apply benzoyl peroxide as needed to acne.

I derived this routine from looking at a bunch of trusted online dermatologists and basically honed in on what they agreed on. Longevity and acne ingredients FTW.

BEFORE (try to ignore selfie lens distortion)
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PRODUCTS
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Thank you very much sir.
 
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WARNING: Autistic post enter at your own risk

TL;DR: I'm 21 6' and 155 lbs. I'm an mild aspie. Recently getting out into the world has introduced lots of evidence that suggests I'm at least chadlite but I'm still having trouble placing myself. Optimistically I'm a baby faced chad before his prime with niche appeal.

Here are the pictures. I deliberately tried to be natural looking in the first picture. Physique pics are no pump. I am up 15 lbs in 7 months so still an ongoing process. Video is to show me realistically. Finally, my skin is freaking out in most of these pictures because of a bad reaction.




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Up until a year or two ago (I'm 21), I had no clue looks mattered or that I was GL. It's been dawning on me more and more that I might be decently attractive. In b4 "just look at how women treat you" Well first of all I'll get to that and secondly I'm a bit of an autistic fuck like most of y'all so I'm both somewhat socially inept and uninterested in socializing. As I mature, I realize that autism has been less of a mental handicap and more of a developmental handicap. My brain is capable of learning social norms and frauding NT but it takes large amounts of practice and comfort to pull off. I was TOTALLY uninterested in being normal as a child so I just got like ZERO practice. So here I am with looks but no confidence and only basic social skills. It's a frightening but exciting time in my life.
Alright let me get into my looks analysis and social anecdotes. Just read the looks analysis if anything.
Looks Analysis
I think my face/persona is massively haloed by a few things:
Eyes - Hooded, PCT, relatively vertically narrow (not perfect), downswung medial cantus, blue, long eyelashes, good low set eyebrows. Not fantastic under eye support.
Jaw - Really really developed jaw. Borderline too developed. It would look slightly better with a little bit more forward growth but this is a bit nit picky.
Hair - Thick wavy hair type with ideal hairline combines for ideal hair overall.
Coloring - I think my coloring is really excellent and makes my face pop from far away.
Height - Without shoes I stand exactly 6' tall, With shoes and 1" shoe lifts I'm usually a bit shy of 6'2"

Good features:
FWHR - It's around 2-2.1 which is definitely ideal.
Good facial thirds - Equal thirds with slightly larger lower thirds. Ideal.
Hands - Slim, large and veiny. Apparently chicks dig this stuff.
Veinyness in general - My arms are vascular as fuck anytime I'm a little warm or its warm out

Flaws:
Biggest flaw has to be BABY FAT. However, this comes with some advantages. First of all, my dad had the same "problem" and just ended up looking like a college kid well into his 30s. Second of all, I think the youthful aesthetic appeals to a decent group of young women so I definitely have options. I am overall totally content with this flaw and I may or may not try to leanmaxx (probably won't do much).
Narrow chin - Not so bad that it sticks out as a flaw to most people but definitely not ideal. Chin augmentation would probably help my looks noticeably and it's something I'm considering in the coming years.
Thin lips/narrow mouth - Definitely my lips and mouth fall short of ideal but again I don't think it strikes any normal person looking at me because they aren't THAT bad and once again I got so many halos going for me it just gets overlooked. I think I'll get invisalign for a wider smile. The lips can stay.
Total FWHR - around 1.22. Basically my heads a bit blocky. Not so bad imo.
Asymmetry - Who doesn't have a bit of asymmetry. Tbh I don't know how bad mine is, only that its present. Doesn't seem so bad though.
Nose/ears?? - I am not so sure on how to measure these. Either way I know they are fine but I'd love to hear how they stack up.
Frame - I'm definitely a bit lanky. I think its another case of not ideal but not exactly a striking flaw to most people. It's like lacking bonus points, if I get jacked with my current frame people will still find it impressive it just lacks that "wow" factor. 6.4" wrists >.<
Voice - It ain't great, definitely detracts from me but doesn't ruin me either. Considering surgery for this one.

So I'm at least chadlite but idk honestly the difference between CL and chad. I am optimistically Chad with baby face who appeals to a certain niche.

Breakdown of some female encounters: (Not entirely relevant but I think it adds to my story)
Ok writing all of the following out makes me feel cocky as hell but I'm still a little uncertain. Maybe I really am seeking nothing but validation deep down (aren't we all?). Not sure if I'm getting CL or chad treatment.
- Me and a girl at work had a mutual crush and she literally said it was because I was hot/cute. This happened twice. Nothing happened because I was an autistic fuck.
- I deliver food on gig apps near the university. This affords me lots of short interactions with girls my age. I definitely notice some micro expressions quite commonly. For example, girls will stare at me longer than necessary, be really smiley, sometimes act nervous (maybe I'm misreading disinterest). There have been multiple instances of haloing with personality traits where girls (and guys) suggested I was hard working and accomplished. I tried to apply to 2 restaurants near the university. In the following days, the crew at both places (especially the girls) commented on it a little more than necessary and said how nice it would be for me to work there. One girl at a restaurant handed me the food and gave me the most over the top seductive expression I nearly laughed. Too bad she was a 4/10 and 6'1".
- I've had guys and girls tell me countless times I look like X attractive celebrity, or a hollywood actor in general.
- The only actual encounter I've had with a girl was at a rave. Within 30 minutes 2 girls had approached me and this was the second one. She was really cute 6-6.5/10 and my type. I acted autistic as fuck but she just helped me vibe and get past the awkwardness. We danced and got touchy and then she just made out with me O.O Literally all her and she kept telling me how handsome I was.
- On Tinder I'm using some pretty sub par mirror selfies - its all very autistic. I got 99 likes in the first 24ish hours and on the first day I swiped on every 5+/10 equaling 32 matches (medium american city). I still get 2-5 matches a day months later and about 1 in 10 girls message me first.

Looksmaxxing I've done. Last section, skip if you want its kinda irrelevant.
Gym - Gained 15 lbs in 7 months. Pretty ideal lean bulk especially since I only tracked macros for a month.
Neck - I'm putting this separate from gym because it was such a big deal and so easy. I wish I measured but it grew from scrawny to average in just a few months.
Posture - Quite extensive work was done on this. I spent a lot of conscious time focusing on keeping good posture to really ingrain it into my mind but this is only half the work. I strengthened my glutes, abs, and rotator cuff muscles in isolation which helped more than just thinking about posture.
Skin care - This was big. I had pretty moderate to somewhat severe acne that is now quite mild thanks to some skincare products. Texture and color is better too.
Teeth hygiene and whitening - Brush 2x floss 1x mouthwash 1x daily. Use whitening strips
Learning how to style hair and washing less frequently
Hygiene - Deodorant, cologne. Just taking showers, bro.
Eyebrows - I skeptically tried castor oil and it worked. Subtle but noticeable improvements in less dense areas, especially towards the center. I also got them dyed/tinted subtly darker.
Mewing - Not 100% sure this shit works but the claims are encouraging enough to at least try. My forward growth has always been OK since I wasn't a mouth breather but slightly more would be idea. Check back in 1-2 years I'm only 3 months in.
9 hours of sleep - Big part of my success at the gym and it improves you in really subtle ways. Basically I stopped using an alarm clock and my body naturally asks for about 9.5 hours in bed.
Supplements - This probably only makes longer term differences.
Sunscreen - I'm religious about this shit now. I really think I can be the guy who looks 35 at 50 and sunscreen is my secret weapon. Also the baby fat will help.
Fashion/style - After some gay ass experimentation I'm digging the timeless masculine aesthetic. Slim fit t-shirt or tank top, bomber jacket or hoodie. Slim straight jeans. White sneakers or converse. Subtle silver chain. Oh and I drive a Miata that's gotta count for style.

Yikes thanks to anyone who read that. I don't use social media so I'm not used to posting my life online like this.

Can I get @Korea to check this post out. Hes one smart and thorough dude.
Only the attraction you get is going to determine that, not a bunch of jealous incels on this site
 

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